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Title: Obama Citizenship Accusations Come to a Head
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The New American
URL Source: http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/election/562
Published: Dec 2, 2008
Author: Written by Kurt Williamsen
Post Date: 2008-12-02 22:57:52 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: Obama, Berg, Citizenship Scandal, Birth Certificate Fraud
Views: 11481
Comments: 225
Obama Citizenship Accusations Come to a Head Written by Kurt Williamsen Tuesday, 02 December 2008 20:54 As we have reported earlier in our article "Barack Obama and the Citizenship Scandal," it has been alleged that Barack Obama is ineligible to become president for two reasons: evidence has come forward that Obama was born in Kenya, not the United States as required by the Constitution (because only one of Obama's parents is an American); and even if he was born here, his mother relinquished his citizenship by marrying an Indonesian and becoming a naturalized Indonesian citizen. This story has gained credence, separating it from Internet rumors, because Obama has reputedly hired three law firms (firms, not lawyers) to make sure that no one gets access to his birth records in Hawaii or his college transcripts from Occidental College and Harvard. (It is speculated that the transcripts will show he applied for aid to foreign students.) Philip J. Berg, a lifelong Democrat, sued to see Obama's original birth certificate, but a court ruled that because Berg was not in some way harmed by Obama — monetarily, physically, or reputation-wise — he was not a plaintiff in good standing. This action by the court put a temporary end to the belief that we would ever know the answer to the accusations. But now the claim is flaring up again for several reasons: • Alan Keyes, a presidential candidate of the American Independent Party, and Markham Robinson, a California elector, have now sued to see Obama's birth certificate (these men would definitely have legal "standing" to sue as plaintiffs in this case). • The We the People Foundation took out a full-page ad in the Chicago Tribune about the scandal. • On Friday, December 5, the Supreme Court will have a "conference" on the question of Obama's citizenship. (If four out of the nine justices vote to hear the case, oral arguments may be scheduled.) Obama supporters have derided attempts to challenge Obama's citizenship as merely sour grapes by sore losers, and they point to the website FactChect.org, as well as a statement by Hawaii's Department of Health Director who said Obama has a legitimate birth certificate, as proof of their rightness. (Various quotes by Obama's supporters also make it clear that they don't care whether or not he was born in the United States, or whether or not the Constitution is upheld.) Those pressing the issue note that FactCheck.org is a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center and that Obama was on the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. They note also that Hawaiian Health Department officials did not state that Obama has an original birth certificate from Hawaii. In fact, what Obama has given to FactCheck.org to prove his citizenship is not a birth certificate, but a certificate of live birth, something that would not ordinarily be accepted as legal proof of citizenship. Also, it is suspicious that no doctors or nurses have come forward and said that they were at Obama's birth in Hawaii, but Obama's grandmother in Kenya has been taped saying that she was at his birth in Kenya. Is Obama hiding something? Most likely yes. A person just doesn't spend something on the order of hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep one's birth records a secret unless one has something to hide. I personally have had to provide my birth certificate to several employers before they would agree to hire me. For a normal person, showing one's birth certificate is not a big deal. I've also had to give out my college records — again, not a big deal. But that leads to important questions: should this be pursued, and will it succeed? Yes, it should be pursued because to ignore it is to say that the Constitution is no longer the law of the land and is instead just an old piece of paper. Will it succeed? In my opinion, no. Neither the Supreme Court, nor the electors who will soon cast their votes for president, are impartial bodies. But that is not an argument for not pursuing it. — AP Images
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#115. To: OliviaFNewton (#95)
No jackboot loving hatefilled self centered, confused arrogant twit and elitist Army warrior is concerned about 'friends'. It's about control. You're right, Olivia. Friends don't encourage multiculturalism, affirmative action, the empowerment of the ADL and buckets of socialism. Call us a committee of two, but 'friends' like these are no better than Judas goats. They're NTBT.
Thanks JT. JUDAS GOATS - EXACTLY!
He's going to inflict "comprehensive immigration reform" on us.
Listen up Pilgrim.... Tolerance and patience are virtues, violin playing is not.
Thanks JT. JUDAS GOATS - EXACTLY! OK, Pilgrims... Keep one thing in mind, when everyone agrees with me, there is something wrong and I start to worry. Mike unlike the cowardly types, is up front with his views, so far in left field he is out of the ballpark, but I still read 'em.
Cyni, The people Mike supports would put you and your family in chains. This isn't my opinion, history makes my case.
I was simply offering to join you in your concert for a coward.
I can play the whoopie cushion in the wind section....
Now we're talking ~ LOL!
Damn. You can be on my debate team anytime! His claiming to be a minority by the riduculous assertion about the purpose of the Constitution is classic leftist hypocrisy. You so exposed him in far fewer words that I used in post 71.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition RUN SILENT, RUN DEEP It will now be easy for him to vote for obamessiah's DRAFT since he can try to claim it wasn't his idea. That will be his revenge...along with others mentioned above like citizenship for illegals, and his vote for mandatory pay universal health care when it comes.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition RUN SILENT, RUN DEEP I'm sure he'll once again be hailed a true 'maverick' when that happens. And like you, I believe it will. McCains treachery in the past may have only been a warm up.
Coward???? Is that nice????
I had other words to choose from, but that one was the nicest one.
Good heavens.... Perhaps we need to work on your vocabulary????? Stop throwing things. geeezzz
Perhaps we need to work on your vocabulary????? Stop throwing things. geeezzz I'm a work in progress, what can I say?
Never try to con or kid an old BS artist. It wont work. hehehehehe
Cyni's a bit of a pussy when it comes to foul/fowl language. ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Well, I respect that, however, none was used in my original post here: http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=91615&Disp=95#C95 If others want to hold a wake for Mike, then go on, but leave me out of it.
Not gonna. Drag you in kicking and screaming all the way. Wont do you any good. You post here, you will go down with the ship just like the rest of us. No abandoning ship in your little dinghy and rowing away.
Drag you in kicking and screaming all the way. Wont do you any good. You post here, you will go down with the ship just like the rest of us. No abandoning ship in your little dinghy and rowing away. I know karate. Just sayin'.
"din·ghy (dng) n. pl. din·ghies 1. A small open boat carried as a tender, lifeboat, or pleasure craft on a larger boat. 2. A small rowboat. 3. An inflatable rubber life raft."
I just have to give the proper Olde Asse a hard time 'cuz I like him so much. I was going to send him a walking liberty but I knew it would cause problems for him with los federales. ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Two in a dinghy with no paddles adrift on the ocean blue sounds good, but it aint. I may just have the two of you keel hauled as a starter. Capt. Ahab...
Ok big mouth! What are you personally going to do about it? I can tell everybody straight out. NOTHING! All I see is hot air coming from a balless pussy.
n. pl. din·ghies 1. A small open boat carried as a tender, lifeboat, or pleasure craft on a larger boat. 2. A small rowboat. 3. An inflatable rubber life raft." I have a violin trio on board.
Enough Gilligan. Skipper said so.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
I wouldn't mind being stuck adrift on the Ocean with you, sweet heart. ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
I was going to send him a walking liberty but I knew it would cause problems for him with los federales. ;-) I don't think you two would make the best dance partners, but you're on the same side. ;)
Why thank you! I know karate. Pass it on. :)
I can tell everybody straight out. NOTHING! All I see is hot air coming from a balless pussy. What do you expect someone to give out in a forum like this on the Internets ? Assassination details ? Revolution marching orders ? Civil War seeding 'structions? Your heart is in the right place but your brain seems off a bubble or three. Still love ya tho..
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Excellent. I know Jackie Chan so we should be good to go. ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Hey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its you and rotaro in a dinghy, not me. I dance with the girl what brung me. geeeezzz
Only a fool would say anything these days. Everyone is listening (government) and snitches abound among us.
Assassination details ? Revolution marching orders ? Thanks for the laugh. Everyone got the right answer as long as their neck isn't sticking out. You might have said, I wussed out and didn't vote for Chuck Baldwin or Dr, Ron Paul because I am a weenie and let those who really know you to be a fucking big mouthed pussy to call correctly. Don't feel ashamed or alone. Back during the pre revolution days, many spoke bravely but were cowards. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
I call... Show your hand, let all of us see just WHAT YOU WOULD DO.
Did you tell her you were banned from every Arthur Murray studio in the country?
The very fact you know what an "Arthur Murray studio" is..... ;-)
Do you realize that by mentioning Arthur Murray, you are telling your age?????? Wheeeeee.... Actually, when I now and then tell the truth, people such as you, say I lie. I was a wall flower...Truth...
Beat me to it. drat
Chan is no match for me. I come from the 'flying' Newtons of Winnemucca.
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#116. To: Jethro Tull (#115)
You're right, Olivia. Friends don't encourage multiculturalism, affirmative action, the empowerment of the ADL and buckets of socialism. Call us a committee of two, but 'friends' like these are no better than Judas goats. They're NTBT.
#117. To: Lady X (#111)
John McCain take revenge on who? And how?
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#118. To: OliviaFNewton (#95)
I'll get out my little violin.
#119. To: OliviaFNewton, Jethro tull (#116)
You're right, Olivia. Friends don't encourage multiculturalism, affirmative action, the empowerment of the ADL and buckets of socialism. Call us a committee of two, but 'friends' like these are no better than Judas goats. They're NTBT.
#120. To: Cynicom (#119)
#121. To: Cynicom (#118)
Tolerance and patience are virtues, violin playing is not.
#122. To: OliviaFNewton (#121)
was simply offering to join you in your concert for a coward.
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#123. To: X-15 (#122)
I can play the whoopie cushion in the wind section....
#124. To: bluegrass (#97)
What I find odd is that someone in the majority opinion (an Obamite) would come onto a minority opinion board and claim persecution.
"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
#125. To: OliviaFNewton (#109)
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But while we're on the topic of McCain, scorned 'twice' by the voters for the nations highest job, count on revenge.
"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
#126. To: IndieTX (#125)
It will now be easy for him to vote for obamessiah's DRAFT since he can try to claim it wasn't his idea. That will be his revenge...along with others mentioned above like citizenship for illegals, and his vote for mandatory pay universal health care when it comes.
#127. To: OliviaFNewton (#121)
I was simply offering to join you in your concert for a coward.
#128. To: Cynicom (#127)
Is that nice????
#129. To: OliviaFNewton (#128)
I had other words to choose from, but that one was the nicest one.
#130. To: Cynicom (#129)
Good heavens....
#131. To: OliviaFNewton (#130)
I'm a work in progress,
#132. To: OliviaFNewton, Cynicom (#130)
#133. To: Rotara (#132)
Cyni's a bit of a pussy when it comes to foul/fowl language. ;-)
#134. To: OliviaFNewton (#133)
If others want to hold a wake for Mike, then go on, but leave me out of it.
#135. To: Cynicom (#134)
Not gonna.
#136. To: OliviaFNewton (#133)
#137. To: OliviaFNewton, Cynicom (#133)
I respect it too
#138. To: Rotara (#137)
I just have to give the proper Olde Asse a hard time
#139. To: bluegrass (#98)
We're on the same track. America's being conditioned for outright foreign rule as opposed to the from-the-behind-the-scenes foreign rule that we've been under for Lord only knows how many years.
#140. To: Cynicom (#136)
"din·ghy (dng)
#141. To: Cynicom (#138)
#142. To: OliviaFNewton (#140)
#143. To: Rotara (#137)
I just have to give the proper Olde Asse a hard time 'cuz I like him so much.
#144. To: Rotara (#142)
I wouldn't mind being stuck adrift on the Ocean with you, sweet heart. ;-)
#145. To: LACUMO (#139)
Ok big mouth! What are you personally going to do about it?
#146. To: OliviaFNewton (#144)
I know karate.
#147. To: OliviaFNewton (#143)
I don't think you two would make the best dance partners, but you're on the same side. ;)
#148. To: Rotara (#145)
What do you expect someone to give out in a forum like this on the Internets ?
#149. To: Rotara (#145)
What do you expect someone to give out in a forum like this on the Internets ?
#150. To: LACUMO, rotaro (#149)
You might have said, I wussed out and didn't vote for Chuck Baldwin or Dr, Ron Paul because I am a weenie and let those who really know you to be a fucking big mouthed pussy to call correctly.
#151. To: Cynicom (#147)
Its you and rotaro in a dinghy, not me. I dance with the girl what brung me. geeeezzz
#152. To: OliviaFNewton (#151)
Arthur Murray studio
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#153. To: OliviaFNewton (#151)
Did you tell her you were banned from every Arthur Murray studio in the country?
#154. To: X-15 (#152)
The very fact you know what an "Arthur Murray studio" is.....
#155. To: Rotara (#146)
Excellent. I know Jackie Chan so we should be good to go. ;-)
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