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Title: Obama Citizenship Accusations Come to a Head
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The New American
URL Source: http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/election/562
Published: Dec 2, 2008
Author: Written by Kurt Williamsen
Post Date: 2008-12-02 22:57:52 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: Obama, Berg, Citizenship Scandal, Birth Certificate Fraud
Views: 4958
Comments: 225
Obama Citizenship Accusations Come to a Head Written by Kurt Williamsen Tuesday, 02 December 2008 20:54 As we have reported earlier in our article "Barack Obama and the Citizenship Scandal," it has been alleged that Barack Obama is ineligible to become president for two reasons: evidence has come forward that Obama was born in Kenya, not the United States as required by the Constitution (because only one of Obama's parents is an American); and even if he was born here, his mother relinquished his citizenship by marrying an Indonesian and becoming a naturalized Indonesian citizen. This story has gained credence, separating it from Internet rumors, because Obama has reputedly hired three law firms (firms, not lawyers) to make sure that no one gets access to his birth records in Hawaii or his college transcripts from Occidental College and Harvard. (It is speculated that the transcripts will show he applied for aid to foreign students.) Philip J. Berg, a lifelong Democrat, sued to see Obama's original birth certificate, but a court ruled that because Berg was not in some way harmed by Obama — monetarily, physically, or reputation-wise — he was not a plaintiff in good standing. This action by the court put a temporary end to the belief that we would ever know the answer to the accusations. But now the claim is flaring up again for several reasons: • Alan Keyes, a presidential candidate of the American Independent Party, and Markham Robinson, a California elector, have now sued to see Obama's birth certificate (these men would definitely have legal "standing" to sue as plaintiffs in this case). • The We the People Foundation took out a full-page ad in the Chicago Tribune about the scandal. • On Friday, December 5, the Supreme Court will have a "conference" on the question of Obama's citizenship. (If four out of the nine justices vote to hear the case, oral arguments may be scheduled.) Obama supporters have derided attempts to challenge Obama's citizenship as merely sour grapes by sore losers, and they point to the website FactChect.org, as well as a statement by Hawaii's Department of Health Director who said Obama has a legitimate birth certificate, as proof of their rightness. (Various quotes by Obama's supporters also make it clear that they don't care whether or not he was born in the United States, or whether or not the Constitution is upheld.) Those pressing the issue note that FactCheck.org is a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center and that Obama was on the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. They note also that Hawaiian Health Department officials did not state that Obama has an original birth certificate from Hawaii. In fact, what Obama has given to FactCheck.org to prove his citizenship is not a birth certificate, but a certificate of live birth, something that would not ordinarily be accepted as legal proof of citizenship. Also, it is suspicious that no doctors or nurses have come forward and said that they were at Obama's birth in Hawaii, but Obama's grandmother in Kenya has been taped saying that she was at his birth in Kenya. Is Obama hiding something? Most likely yes. A person just doesn't spend something on the order of hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep one's birth records a secret unless one has something to hide. I personally have had to provide my birth certificate to several employers before they would agree to hire me. For a normal person, showing one's birth certificate is not a big deal. I've also had to give out my college records — again, not a big deal. But that leads to important questions: should this be pursued, and will it succeed? Yes, it should be pursued because to ignore it is to say that the Constitution is no longer the law of the land and is instead just an old piece of paper. Will it succeed? In my opinion, no. Neither the Supreme Court, nor the electors who will soon cast their votes for president, are impartial bodies. But that is not an argument for not pursuing it. — AP Images
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#165. To: Cynicom (#161)
Great town, have great friends there. Love it !
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
You're just phucking stupid and ignarent.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Do you need directions to El Pee ? !
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
"For a goode olde time call..(Cyni's ph # - which consists of 3 letters and 3 numbers)" LOL !
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
My great-great-grandmother told me about taking dance lessons there. True story.
Lac... The call to arms has gone unheeded, by all of us. Change via the system has not been possible for many years. Until one realizes and accepts that "government" is the enemy, we will remain nothing more than a debating society. This government is now so oppressive that indeed Big Brother is here and watching every move, every word.
"Domestic Terrorist" bump
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
All I ever really knew about NV 60 years ago was told to me by the older boys..Honest... Truth...
True story??? Well, okay, if you insist.
hehehe.. Great, now I remember Junior Sample BR549.
You know, my inital posting on this thread was to bluegrass. Then you stuck your nose in and didn't give the neo bluegrass a chance to respond. For that, you have put your own neck in the noose because we stupid Americans love to stick our nose in where it doesn't belong; even when it is shit we are about to stick our nose in. You hung yourself on this one. Apparently you don't care or know any better.
GFY Lac.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Haaahahahaha!
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Are you a neocon ? Lac says so.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
No kidding? Hubs folks taught there in the 60's. That's how I know about cyni's status. The footprints for the bossanova went missing.
Well, sheesh, Olivia was about to corner me when she alluded to me also knowing about Arthur Murray ;-)
the rest of you? who would that be? other than the few obamaphiles, most of us abstained or, like you, voted Ron Paul or Baldwin.
I like the name Olivia, but the middle name of Fig sort of kills the romance, know what I mean??? I also like Ingrid and Jennifer. Fig is a dry gulcher that takes pot shots at me as I ride by, unarmed and unaware.
I told you guys that the clerk at Ellis Island couldn't spell Calimyrna, so he checked our little bag in as Figg.
bluegrass a neocon? my gosh, he's a Eustace Mullins protege', for pete's sake. you couldn't get less neocon than bluegrass.
You hung yourself on this one. Apparently you don't care or know any better. Bless his/her sweet little heart. ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Horsefeathers... Not buying that nonsense at all. I suspicion more likely you snuck in from the south in recent years.
Change via the system has not been possible for many years. You honestly think I don't know that? By voting for Dr.Paul or Chuck Baldwin, I can at least send the fuckers running the show I am not willing to play their silly game. ......and since there aren't enough Americans with a backbone who are willing to do their fair share of lifting, I might as well send them some tainted words hoping they will wake up and see the light. Unfortunately too many of them are D's and R's and will never learn. I must still try however. Ron Paul and Chuck Baldwin at their worst, no 100 times at their worst, are a thousand times better than what we've had since Teddy Roosevelt; and it's only gonna get worse and we cvan only blame ourselves.
I glow in the dark. So that should put that theory to rest.
Eustace Mullins was the researcher and writer for Senator McCarthy. One does not come with better credentials than that. For his effort he was ostracized by MSM.
......and since there aren't enough Americans with a backbone who are willing to do their fair share of lifting, I might as well send them some tainted words hoping they will wake up and see the light. Unfortunately too many of them are D's and R's and will never learn. I must still try however. Ron Paul and Chuck Baldwin at their worst, no 100 times at their worst, are a thousand times better than what we've had since Teddy Roosevelt; and it's only gonna get worse and we cvan only blame ourselves. You remind me of an olde friend of mine that would get all lickered up and then trot into the nearest watering hole looking to fight everyone. I kicked his ass and we became best friends. ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Lac... It was a statement,nothing personal. we find many people here that honestly beleive there can be change via the system.
God bless Tailgunner Joe bump
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
La de da... By Saturday nite bath time I have a green mist around me, so there.
You could fool me. Some of the things these people write would be better off posted at Ripley's Believe it or Not. Maybe I expect too much. I always thought if it looked like a duck and quacked like a duck, it must be a duck. I guess some of them must be raccoons in drag!
You could say that again. Dial back the weed, duuuuude.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
ok. that might be a legitimate criticism in some people's opinion, but can you please cite a post by bluegrass that led you to believe that he's a neocon?
I believe that! I've been really frustrated since 1964 when Barry Goldwater lost to lbj and it is getting worse as each election goes by. I just shake my head!
Still sticking your nose in where it is not expected.
By Saturday nite bath time I have a green mist around me, so there. LOL!
I supported and voted for Goldwater, took a lot of grief by the Johnsonites. When the endless war came home in bodybags, the Johnson people fell silent and no one admitted voting for him.
LOL Not funny at all. I am doing my patriotic duty. Water conservation is good, soap is made from bad things and Gore says GREEN is in. So there.
I am doing my patriotic duty. Water conservation is good, soap is made from bad things and Gore says GREEN is in. So there. You're probably just flavoring up your batch of hootch.
I hate having to pick up all the s#it you have flung around, but you're hitting some friendlies and I'm about ready to pop you boy. ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
hootch???? Good heavens, I have always been a teetotaler, even tried to join the WCTU (they threw me out),the ferment of the grape shall never pass my lips.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestAt one time there was a gas and booze place on NV side called Sparks, I think.
#166. To: LACUMO (#162)
The rest of you wimped out and sold out voting for what you perceived to be the lesser of two evils.
#167. To: LACUMO (#162)
Something about walking in the shoes fitting or having no feet or something. It is called having principles and sticking to them. The rest of the phonies can kiss my ass.
#168. To: OliviaFNewton, Cynicom (#164)
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Your picture is plastered all over Winnemucca too.
#169. To: OliviaFNewton (#159)
Yeah well, um, see, those of you that knew it already are equally guilty of having some seasoning too.
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#170. To: LACUMO (#162)
Just what I did. I supported Dr. Paul and have no regrets
#171. To: (#170)
This government is now so oppressive that indeed Big Brother is here and watching every move, every word.
#172. To: OliviaFNewton, rotaro (#164)
Your picture is plastered all over Winnemucca too.
#173. To: X-15 (#169)
My great-great-grandmother told me about taking dance lessons there. True story.
#174. To: Rotara (#168)
"For a goode olde time call..(Cyni's ph # - which consists of 3 letters and 3 numbers)" LOL !
#175. To: Rotara (#163)
#176. To: LACUMO (#175)
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bluegrass ain't no neocon you phucking phool
#177. To: OliviaFNewton (#174)
Great, now I remember Junior Sample BR549.
#178. To: bluegrass (#176)
#179. To: X-15 (#169)
My great-great-grandmother told me about taking dance lessons there. True story.
#180. To: Cynicom (#173)
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#181. To: LACUMO (#162)
The rest of you wimped out and sold out voting for what you perceived to be the lesser of two evils.
#182. To: X-15 (#180)
Well, sheesh, Olivia was about to corner me when she alluded to me also knowing about Arthur Murray ;-)
#183. To: Cynicom (#182)
I like the name Olivia, but the middle name of Fig sort of kills the romance, know what I mean???
#184. To: LACUMO (#178)
#185. To: Christine (#184)
You know, my inital posting on this thread was to bluegrass. Then you stuck your nose in and didn't give the neo bluegrass a chance to respond. For that, you have put your own neck in the noose because we stupid Americans love to stick our nose in where it doesn't belong; even when it is shit we are about to stick our nose in.
#186. To: OliviaFNewton (#183)
I told you guys that the clerk at Ellis Island couldn't spell Calimyrna,
#187. To: Cynicom (#170)
The call to arms has gone unheeded, by all of us.
#188. To: Cynicom (#186)
Not buying that nonsense at all. I suspicion more likely you snuck in from the south in recent years.
#189. To: christine, LACUMO, all (#184)
Eustace Mullins
#190. To: LACUMO (#187)
You honestly think I don't know that? By voting for Dr.Paul or Chuck Baldwin, I can at least send the fuckers running the show I am not willing to play their silly game.
#191. To: LACUMO (#187)
You honestly think I don't know that?
#192. To: Cynicom (#189)
Senator McCarthy
#193. To: OliviaFNewton (#188)
I glow in the dark. So that should put that theory to rest.
#194. To: christine (#184)
bluegrass a neocon? my gosh,
#195. To: LACUMO (#194)
You could fool me.
#196. To: LACUMO (#194)
Some of the things these people write would be better off posted at Ripley's Believe it or Not
#197. To: Cynicom (#191)
It was a statement,nothing personal. we find many people here that honestly beleive there can be change via the system.
#198. To: Rotara (#195)
You could say that again.
#199. To: Cynicom (#193)
La de da...
#200. To: LACUMO (#197)
I've been really frustrated since 1964 when Barry Goldwater lost to lbj and it is getting worse as each election goes by.
#201. To: OliviaFNewton (#199)
By Saturday nite bath time I have a green mist around me, so there.
#202. To: Cynicom (#201)
Not funny at all.
#203. To: LACUMO (#198)
Still sticking your nose in where it is not expected.
#204. To: OliviaFNewton (#202)
batch of hootch.
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