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Title: 'Natural-born' requirement called 'stupidest provision' (Also 'discriminates, outdated, undemocratic and assumes birthplace a proxy for loyalty') [Illegal Alien Bastard Obamalamagabedinga-dong Alert]
Source: WND
URL Source: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=82680
Published: Dec 3, 2008
Author: Bob Unruh
Post Date: 2008-12-03 21:37:10 by Rotara
Keywords: None
Views: 404
Comments: 14


Posted: December 03, 2008
9:00 pm Eastern

By Bob Unruh

© 2008 WorldNetDaily

An associate lawyer in a Chicago-based firm whose partner served on a finance committee for then-Sen. Barack Obama has advocated for the elimination of the U.S. Constitution's requirement that a president be a "natural-born" citizen, calling the requirement "stupid" and affirming it discriminates, is outdated and undemocratic.

Barack Obama and Kenyan Prime Minister Raila Odinga

The paper was written in 2006, just two years after Obama had won a landslide election in Illinois to the U.S. Senate, by Sarah Herlihy. She is listed as an associate at the Chicago firm of Kirkland & Ellis, and a partner in the same firm, Bruce I. Ettelson, cites his membership on the finance committees for both U.S. Sens. Obama and Richard Durbin on the corporate website.

The article by Herlihy remained available online under the law review articles from Kent University.

The issue is the subject of nearly two dozen court cases in recent weeks in the United States, including at least two that have gone to the U.S. Supreme Court, because of unanswered questions over Obama's birthplace.

There have been accusations that he was born in Kenya, not Hawaii as his campaign has stated. His paternal grandmother has stated she was in attendance at his birth in Mombasa. While Hawaii officials say they have seen his birth certificate, they have declined to release information from it.

The Certification of Live Birth from Hawaii that the Obama campaign posted on the Internet isn't considered by critics to resolve the issue since during the 1960s when Obama was born, the then-new state would issue those certificates for infants not necessarily born in Hawaii.

There also remain unanswered questions about his youth, when he lived and attended school in Indonesia and later when he traveled to Pakistan. They include whether he gave up a U.S. citizenship to attend school, or traveled on another nation's passport to Pakistan at a time when U.S. passports were unwelcome there.

Answers to those issues could determine whether he meets the Constitution's demand for a "natural-born" citizen, or in the alternative, be ineligible to hold the office of president.

The published paper reveals that such a requirement likely was considered in a negative light by organizations linked to Obama in the months before he announced in 2007 his candidacy for the presidency.

"The natural born citizen requirement in Article II of the United States Constitution has been called the 'stupidest provision' in the Constitution, "undecidedly un-American," "blatantly discriminatory," and the "Constitution's worst provision," Herlihy begins in her introduction to the paper titled, "Amending the Natural Born Citizen Requirement: Globalization as the Impetus and the Obstacle."

She concludes that the "emotional" reasons to oppose changing the Constitution will prevail over the "rational" reasons demanding a change.

"The current American perceptions about the effects of globalization and the misunderstanding about what globalization actually is will result in Americans deciding that naturalized citizens should not be president because this would, in effect, be promoting globalization.

"Although this argument is admittedly circular, because globalization is the thing that makes the need to abolish the requirement more and more persuasive, Americans' subsequent perceptions about globalization are the very things that will prevent Americans from embracing the idea of eliminating the natural born requirement.

"Logical Americans are looking for a reason to ignore the rational reasons promoted by globalization so that they may vote based on their own emotions and instincts," she wrote.

Read all the evidence about Obama's birthplace in Jerome Corsi's "The Obama Nation."

She blamed that on "fear, racism, religious intolerance, or blind faith in the decisions of the Founding Fathers."

WND called Herlihy's number listed on the law firm website, and a woman answered with the words, "Sarah Herlihy." But when WND identified itself as a news agency, the woman said she didn't think "Sarah Herlihy" was in, but would take a message. There was no return call.

In the body of her argument to throw out the constitutional provision, Herlihy said the plan simply is outdated.

"Considering that the Founding Fathers presumably included the natural born citizen clause in the Constitution partly out of fear of foreign subversion, the current stability of the American government and the intense media scrutiny of presidential candidates virtually eliminates the possibility of a 'foreigner' coming to America, becoming a naturalized citizen, generating enough public support to become president, and somehow using the presidency to directly benefit his homeland," she wrote.

"The natural born citizen clause of the United States Constitution should be repealed for numerous reasons. Limiting presidential eligibility to natural born citizens discriminates against naturalized citizens, is outdated and undemocratic, and incorrectly assumes that birthplace is a proxy for loyalty," she wrote.

Many of the reasons for keeping the limit, she wrote, "are based primarily on emotion."

WND reported earlier when Kenyan Prime Minister Raila Odinga began demanding payback from Obama for silencing WND staff writer and best-selling author Jerome Corsi, who investigated Obama's links to the authoritarian African official.

Odinga told Kenya's newspaper, The Nation, that he expected Obama's election to provide a windfall of U.S. trade, tourism and investment.

"What we want to see is the expansion of relationships in terms of trade and direct investments," said Odinga. "We want to see more of our products finding markets in the U.S. and expect more direct investments by the Americans in the country."

Odinga made it clear he played a small role in helping Obama win the White House – specifically by detaining Corsi and preventing him from holding a press conference in Kenya to disclose the findings of his investigation.

In addition, Odina said he made a deliberate decision to minimize his relationship with Obama – even while previously claiming to be related to him.

As WND had reported exclusively, Odinga is a Luo tribesman affiliated with Obama's father when Odinga's communist father was Kenya's first vice president after Kenyan independence and Obama's father was a Harvard-educated economist working in the Jomo Kenyatta government.

Obama campaigned openly for Odinga for president in 2006 when Obama was in Kenya on a U.S. Senate "fact-finding" mission. Kenya's President Mwai Kibaki asked Obama to stop interfering with Kenyan presidential politics. Obama raised an alleged $1 million for Odinga to run for president in Kenya in December 2007, adding to the $1 million raised for Odinga's 2007 presidential campaign by Libyan dictator Moammar Gadhafi.

A web blogger suggested, "So it sure looks like Obama's people have looked into the matter of 'natural born' as far back as early 2006. What is even more disturbing is that it would appear that they are following the thought of : 'If the facts do not support the theory, Destroy the facts!'"

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#1. To: Rotara (#0) (Edited)

An associate lawyer in a Chicago-based firm whose partner served on a finance committee for then-Sen. Barack Obama has advocated for the elimination of the U.S. Constitution's requirement that a president be a "natural-born" citizen, calling the requirement "stupid" and affirming it discriminates, is outdated and undemocratic.

Lawyers only vilify and attempt to abrogate the law when it affects them. When it comes to income producing criminal prosecutions of the subjects, "bad law" is not an excuse to judge or prosector. Funny how that works.

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"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx

RUN SILENT, RUN DEEP

IndieTX  posted on  2008-12-03   21:41:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: TwentyTwelve, Original_Intent, noone222 (#0)

There have been accusations that he was born in Kenya, not Hawaii as his campaign has stated. His paternal grandmother has stated she was in attendance at his birth in Mombasa. While Hawaii officials say they have seen his birth certificate, they have declined to release information from it.

The Certification of Live Birth from Hawaii that the Obama campaign posted on the Internet isn't considered by critics to resolve the issue since during the 1960s when Obama was born, the then-new state would issue those certificates for infants not necessarily born in Hawaii.

LOL !!

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-03   21:41:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: IndieTX (#1)

I dare say 1 in 100 is worth saving. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-03   21:42:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All (#0)

Odinga told Kenya's newspaper, The Nation, that he expected Obama's election to provide a windfall of U.S. trade, tourism and investment.

"What we want to see is the expansion of relationships in terms of trade and direct investments," said Odinga. "We want to see more of our products finding markets in the U.S. and expect more direct investments by the Americans in the country."

Odinga made it clear he played a small role in helping Obama win the White House – specifically by detaining Corsi and preventing him from holding a press conference in Kenya to disclose the findings of his investigation.

In addition, Odina said he made a deliberate decision to minimize his relationship with Obama – even while previously claiming to be related to him.

All aboard the Kenyan Express !!

And it'll go both ways baby !!!

I can see why the Ocommies are shatting their pants over their illegal alien kosher neocon savior !!!!

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-03   21:44:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Rotara (#0)

An associate lawyer in a Chicago-based firm whose partner served on a finance committee for then-Sen. Barack Obama has advocated for the elimination of the U.S. Constitution's requirement that a president be a "natural-born" citizen, calling the requirement "stupid" and affirming it discriminates, is outdated and undemocratic.

This Obingo surrounds himself with some very goofy people. This lawyers should be used to heat some poor person's house.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-12-03   21:52:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Rotara (#0)

"Limiting presidential eligibility to natural born citizens discriminates against naturalized citizens, is outdated and undemocratic, and incorrectly assumes that birthplace is a proxy for loyalty," she wrote.

All good reasons for DENYING the office of POTUS to foreign-born people.

As for assuming that "birthplace is a proxy for loyalty": I only have to point out The National Council of La Raza.

I rest my case.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-12-03   21:52:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Jethro Tull (#5)

This Obingo surrounds himself with some very goofy people. This lawyers should be used to heat some poor person's house.

We share air with these demons and dolts.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-03   21:54:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Rotara (#4)

We hope it leads to tourism and interchange of disease and cultures.....

Ordering my plane ticket to Kenya on the net as we speak! I can't wait for some of that Nairobi nightlife!

November 14, 2008

US DEPT OF STATE TRAVEL WARNING

The U.S. Department of State warns U.S. citizens of the risks of travel to Kenya. American citizens in Kenya and those considering travel to Kenya should evaluate their personal security situation in light of continuing threats from terrorism and the high rate of violent crime. This replaces the Travel Warning of August 22, 2008, to note increased security concerns in northeast Kenya near the Somali border.

The U.S. Government continues to receive indications of potential terrorist threats aimed at American, Western, and Kenyan interests in Kenya. Terrorist acts could include suicide operations, bombings, kidnappings, attacks on civil aviation, and attacks on maritime vessels in or near Kenyan ports. Many of those responsible for the attacks on the U.S. Embassy in 1998 and on a hotel in Mombasa in 2002 remain at large and continue to operate in the region. In November 2008, armed groups based in Somalia crossed into Kenya near the town of El Wak and kidnapped two Westerners. Travel by U.S. Embassy personnel to border areas of Kenya northeast of the town of Wajir has been restricted until further notice.

Violent and sometimes fatal criminal attacks, including armed carjackings and home invasions/burglaries, can occur at any time and in any location, particularly in Nairobi. As recently as June 2008, U.S. Embassy personnel were victims of carjackings. In the short-term, the continued displacement of thousands of people by the recent civil unrest combined with endemic poverty and the availability of weapons could result in an increase in crime, both petty and violent. Kenyan authorities have limited capacity to deter or investigate such acts or prosecute perpetrators.

American citizens in Kenya should be extremely vigilant, particularly in public places frequented by foreigners such as clubs, hotels, resorts, upscale shopping centers, restaurants, and places of worship. Americans should also remain alert in residential areas, schools, and at outdoor recreational events, and should avoid demonstrations and large crowds.

Americans who travel to or reside in Kenya are encouraged to register through the State Department’s travel registration website, https://travelregistration.state.gov. By registering, American citizens make it easier for the Embassy to contact them in case of emergency. Americans without Internet access may register directly with the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi. The U.S. Embassy is located on United Nations Avenue, Gigiri, Nairobi, Kenya; telephone (254) (20) 363-6000; fax (254) (20) 363-6410. In the event of an after-hours emergency, the Embassy duty officer may be contacted at (254) (20) 363-6170. The Embassy home page is http://kenya.usembassy.gov. Updated information on travel and security in Kenya may be obtained from the Department of State by calling 1-888-407-4747 toll free in the United States and Canada, or for callers outside the United States and Canada, a regular toll line at 1-202-501-4444. For further information, please consult the Country Specific Information for Kenya and the Worldwide Caution, which are available on the Bureau of Consular Affairs Internet website at http://travel.state.gov.

Never mind.....LMFAO!!

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition


"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx

RUN SILENT, RUN DEEP

IndieTX  posted on  2008-12-03   21:54:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: X-15 (#6)

All good reasons for DENYING the office of POTUS to foreign-born people.

As for assuming that "birthplace is a proxy for loyalty": I only have to point out The National Council of La Raza.

I rest my case.

Anyone treating this lightly could have NEVER been a Ron Paul supporter for realz.

No way.

Effing moles.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-03   21:55:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: IndieTX (#8)

We hope it leads to tourism and interchange of disease and cultures.....

Ordering my plane ticket to Kenya on the net as we speak! I can't wait for some of that Nairobi nightlife!

Bwaaaaaahahahahaha!

Good one !!

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-03   21:56:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: X-15 (#6)

I rest my case.

ROBED TYRANT: "Denied. Overruled! Inadmissable. Irrelevant! And a whole bunch of other big words the jury can't understand!!" LOL

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"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx

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IndieTX  posted on  2008-12-03   21:57:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: IndieTX (#11)

STRIKE THAT ! STRIKE THAT TOO !! STRIKE THAT AS WELL !! OH, SH*T, YOU'RE GOING BACK TO YOUR CELL !!

LOL

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-03   21:58:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: IndieTX (#8)

Ordering my plane ticket to Kenya on the net as we speak! I can't wait for some of that Nairobi nightlife!

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-12-03   22:00:19 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: All (#12)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-03   22:00:55 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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