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Title: Will Supreme Court take case on Obama's citizenship?
Source: Chicago Tribune
URL Source: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6145787.html
Published: Dec 4, 2008
Author: By JAMES JANEGA
Post Date: 2008-12-04 14:22:01 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: Obama, Lawsuit, Supreme Court, Decision Time
Views: 424
Comments: 23

Will Supreme Court take case on Obama's citizenship?

By JAMES JANEGA

Chicago Tribune

Dec. 3, 2008, 10:07PM

CHICAGO — The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's election.

The meeting of justices will coincide with a vigil by the filer's supporters in Washington on the steps of the nation's highest court.

The suit originally sought to stay the election, and was filed on behalf of Leo Donofrio against New Jersey Secretary of State Nina Mitchell Wells.

Legal experts say the appeal has little chance of succeeding, despite appearing on the court's schedule. Legal records show it is only the tip of an iceberg of nationwide efforts seeking to derail Obama's election over accusations that he either wasn't born a U.S. citizen or that he later renounced his citizenship in Indonesia.

The Obama campaign has maintained that he was born in Hawaii, has an authentic birth certificate, and is a "natural-born" U.S. citizen. Hawaiian officials agree.

Among those filing lawsuits is Alan Keyes, who lost to Obama in the 2004 Illinois Senate race. Keyes' suit seeks to halt certification of votes in California. Another suit by a Kentucky man seeks to have a federal judge review Obama's original birth certificate, which Hawaiian officials say is locked in a state vault.

Other suits have been filed by Andy Martin, whose case was dismissed in Hawaii, and by an Ohio man whose case also was dismissed. Five more suits, all later dismissed, were filed in Hawaii by a person who is currently suing the "Peoples Association of Human, Animals Conceived God/s and Religions, John McCain (and) USA Govt." The plaintiff previously sought to sue Wikipedia and "All News Media."

The most famous case questioning Obama's citizenship was filed in Pennsylvania in August on behalf of Philip J. Berg and sought to enjoin the Democratic National Committee from nominating Obama. The U.S. Supreme Court declined to accept the case. Earlier, a federal judge rejected it for "lack of standing" — ruling that Berg had no legal right to sue. In cases like this, judges sometimes believe the matter is best left to political institutions, such as the Electoral College or Congress, said legal scholar Eugene Volokh of the University of California at Los Angeles.

The remaining case with the highest profile is Donofrio vs. Wells. Because it was distributed by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas to other justices for conference, it gained undue importance for people unschooled in how the court works, Volokh said.

Many petitioners seeking stays of pending events have their cases distributed to the full court, he said. Of those, Volokh found that 782 were denied in the last eight years while just 60 were heard — and not all of those ultimately were successful.

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#1. To: Rotara, christine (#0)

"Many petitioners seeking stays of pending events have their cases distributed to the full court, he said. Of those, Volokh found that 782 were denied in the last eight years while just 60 were heard — and not all of those ultimately were successful."

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-12-04   14:29:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)

The Obama campaign has maintained that he was born in Hawaii, has an authentic birth certificate, and is a "natural-born" U.S. citizen. Hawaiian officials agree.

Untruth in the media? I'm shocked.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-04   14:32:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)

Earlier, a federal judge rejected it for "lack of standing" — ruling that Berg had no legal right to sue.

This "no standing" argument really has some potentially strong legal consequence. It basically suggests that the office of the presidency has no relation to that of the common, individual man. It seems the legal upshot would be that no one is obligated to obey or comply with any mandate whatsoever that comes from the federal Executive office.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-12-04   14:34:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)

"Hospitals in Hawaii to Obama: 'You Were NOT Born Here!!'"

"Hospital after hospital in Honolulu all have NO RECORD of Obama or mother ever being there. Is this some state secret? Are we to believe that even the hospital that he was born in should remain secret? Why lie to us as if it matters I mean the man did win the Presidential vote? Why the lies and secrecy? We already know that Obama’s family and the entire nation of Kenya (which is about to have a national holiday for Obama) know that Barack Obama was born in Mombasa Coastal Hospital in Kenya. The government of Kenya has sealed these records. More and more secrecy due to the fact that once proven, Obama will not be constitutionally allowed to become President of the United States! All of these were called or visited from November 20 - December 2nd 2008. It is confirmed, OBAMA not born in any hospital in Honolulu County!"

This controversy ain't going away, so WHY doesn't Barry Hussein put an end to it by producing his birth certificate?

Is it 'cuz he can't?

Regards...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-12-04   14:35:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Mudboy Slim, Rotara (#4)

This controversy ain't going away, so WHY doesn't Barry Hussein put an end to it by producing his birth certificate?

Is it 'cuz he can't?

Obama birth certificate deadline

Hospital after hospital in Honolulu all have NO RECORD of Obama or mother ever being there. Is this some state secret? Are we to believe that even the hospital that he was born in should remain secret? Why lie to us as if it matters I mean the man did win the Presidential vote? Why the lies and secrecy?

We already know that Obama’s family and the entire nation of Kenya (which is about to have a national holiday for Obama) know that Barack Obama was born in Mombasa Coastal Hospital in Kenya. The government of Kenya has sealed these records. More and more secrecy due to the fact that once proven, Obama will not be constitutionally allowed to become President of the United States! All of these were called from November 20 - December 2nd 2008.

It is confirmed, OBAMA not born in any hospital in Honolulu County! NONE FACT!

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-12-04   14:38:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Mudboy Slim, Rotara (#4)

This controversy ain't going away, so WHY doesn't Barry Hussein put an end to it by producing his birth certificate?

Is it 'cuz he can't?

Hospitals you can check yourself

* The Queen’s Medical Center - Honolulu, Hawaii Obama claims as his birth hospital

* Kapi’ olani Medical Center Obama’s sister claims Barack Obama born here

* Honolulu Shriners Hospital Never a patient Mom or Obama

* Straub Clinic & Hospital Never a patient Mom or Obama

* Hawaii Health Systems Corporation - Honolulu, Hawaii Never a patient Mom or Obama

* Cancer Institute of Maui - Wailuku, Hawaii No Comment ???

* Kuakini Hospital - Honolulu, Hawaii Never a patient Mom or Obama

* Rehabilitation Hospital of the Pacific - Honolulu, Hawaii Never a patient Mom or Obama

* St. Francis Healthcare System of Hawaii - Hawaii Never a patient Mom or Obama

* Straub Heatlh - Honolulu, Hawaii Never a patient Mom or Obama

* Tripler Medical Center - Honolulu, Hawaii Never a patient Mom or Obama

* Wahiawa General Hospital - Wahiawa, Hawaii Never a patient Mom or Obama

* Wilcox Memorial Hospital - Lihue, Kauai, Hawaii Never a patient Mom or Obama

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-12-04   14:40:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Mudboy Slim, Rotara, Horse, christine (#4)

This controversy ain't going away, so WHY doesn't Barry Hussein put an end to it by producing his birth certificate?

Is it 'cuz he can't?

* The Queen’s Medical Center - Honolulu, Hawaii Obama claims as his birth hospital

The Queen’s Medical Center

1301 Punchbowl Street

Honolulu, HI 96813

Phone number 808-538-9011 General Medical Records 808-547-4361.

After it was concluded that Obama and his mother were never there, his sister was in an interview (Mary) and claimed that Obama was born at Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children - Obama and Mom Never Here

Hospital after Hospital - all Have No Record of Obama being born or Mom Ever being There.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-12-04   14:45:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Mudboy Slim (#4)

This controversy ain't going away, so WHY doesn't Barry Hussein put an end to it by producing his birth certificate?

Is it 'cuz he can't?

Regards...MUD

I'm asking the same question.

If I were in his position, I would relish the opportunity to make my critics look like a bunch of fools by producing the documents to prove that all of their fuss is over nothing. Because BHO has not done so implies that he's unable to and has something to hide.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-12-04   14:56:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#8)

Because BHO has not done so implies that he's unable to and has something to hide.

Obama Vs. Constitution (60 Sec. TV Ad)

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-12-04   14:57:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: TwentyTwelve, Weasel Mike, A Vast Right Wing Bloviator, O'bots, Dupes, Suckers, Fools, Marks, all (#7)

One thing that can be certified from all this is that someone with the stone cold proof that Oh'bummer was not born here has him by the balls and he will do whatever he is told to do.

The O'bots seem to have faded into the woodwork. At this point they are mostly not denying it but now trying to say it is irrelevant.

Holy shades of changing 911 stories Batman!

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-04   15:02:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: bluegrass (#2)

Untruth in the media? I'm shocked.

How can "Hawaiian officials agree" when everybody is told that nobody can see the alleged birth certificate unless OBAMA hisself releases it????

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-12-04   15:06:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Original_Intent (#10)

The O'bots seem to have faded into the woodwork back under the rock they crawled out from under. At this point they are mostly not denying it but now trying to say it is irrelevant.

Fixed.

I noticed that too. Most mysterious.

Click for Privacy and Preparedness files

Nehemiah 4:14 And I looked and arose and said to the nobles and to the officials and to the rest of the people, “Do not be afraid of them. Remember the Lord, who is great and awesome, and fight for your brothers, your sons, your daughters, your wives, and your homes.”

PSUSA  posted on  2008-12-04   15:23:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: X-15 (#11)

Just further proof that one of the requirements to be journalist working for any large concern is to be blindingly stupid.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-04   15:28:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Original_Intent (#10)

The O'bots seem to have faded into the woodwork.

Their feelings were hurt. We're all insensitive to their needs.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-04   15:29:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: bluegrass (#14)

We're all insensitive to their needs

I'm not insensitive to the pimps/whores/welfare brats and the other viral- diarrhea marxist-scum masquerading as human beings who voted for that mulatto- turd from ChicagoY!

No sir, I'm not insensitive at all ;-)

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-12-04   15:39:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#8)

"If I were in his position, I would relish the opportunity to make my critics look like a bunch of fools by producing the documents to prove that all of their fuss is over nothing. Because BHO has not done so implies that he's unable to and has something to hide."

Perhaps he is just biding his time and is gonna spring it on us just before he takes the Oath of Office in January of 2009. Problem is, imho, the longer he waits, the more incredulous folks will be about whatever he produces. If he was really born in America, he'd be well-served to produce the proof as soon as possible...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-12-04   15:50:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: PSUSA (#12)

...At this point they are mostly not denying it but now trying to say it is irrelevant. ...

I noticed that too. Most mysterious.

It is a sign that you are dealing with an operator as opposed to a genuine poster - when their story and position changes to match the current official PsyOps Spin. It is not definitive, but it is an indicator that such might be the case.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-04   17:41:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: X-15 (#15)

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-04   17:44:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Mudboy Slim, all (#16)

Perhaps he is just biding his time and is gonna spring it on us just before he takes the Oath of Office in January of 2009. Problem is, imho, the longer he waits, the more incredulous folks will be about whatever he produces. If he was really born in America, he'd be well-served to produce the proof as soon as possible...MUD

C'mon - give'em a break. It takes the guys from the "Documents Section" at Langely some time to produce forge a good copy that will pass inspection. I'm sure Oh'bummer wanted it yesterday, but good work takes time.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-04   17:45:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: bluegrass (#14)

The O'bots seem to have faded into the woodwork.

Their feelings were hurt. We're all insensitive to their needs.

I just feel so bad. I didn't really mean to hurt their feeewings.

Poor babies. I feel so contrite.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-04   17:47:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Original_Intent (#17)

It is a sign that you are dealing with an operator as opposed to a genuine poster - when their story and position changes to match the current official PsyOps Spin. It is not definitive, but it is an indicator that such might be the case.

I heard that these people exist, and if this is the case they aren't very convincing.

I don't know if they are pros or just deluded sheep or just trolls. On one hand, it sounds absurd, on the other hand I am pretty sure they exist and come out to play if the board is influential. I don't know what to think about this so I keep an open mind.

What a job. Imagine being paid to post on forums all day.

Click for Privacy and Preparedness files

Nehemiah 4:14 And I looked and arose and said to the nobles and to the officials and to the rest of the people, “Do not be afraid of them. Remember the Lord, who is great and awesome, and fight for your brothers, your sons, your daughters, your wives, and your homes.”

PSUSA  posted on  2008-12-05   6:24:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Original_Intent (#19)

"It takes the guys from the "Documents Section" at Langley some time to produce forge a good copy that will pass inspection."

Problem is, a genuine birth certificate will have to declare which hospital in Hawaii Barry was born in, and would also name the doctor who delivered him. These forgeries ain't as easy as one might expect, I reckon. Lotta times they just produce more questions than they answer...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-12-05   14:48:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)

Will Supreme Court take case on Obama's citizenship?

SCOTUS CERT GRANT 12-05-2008

http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/todays-orders-12508/

Today’s orders list is available here. The Court granted certiorari in two cases — al-Marri v. Pucciarelli (08-368) and Gross v. FBL Financial Services, Inc. (08-441)

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