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Title: ABC News Gets The Donofrio SCOTUS Story Wrong
Source: Leo Donofrio's Blog
URL Source: http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress ... e-donofrio-scotus-story-wrong/
Published: Dec 4, 2008
Author: Leo Donofrio
Post Date: 2008-12-04 15:38:11 by bluegrass
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Dear Mr. Terry Owens and ABC News.

The story you printed today with the headline, “Supreme Court to Decide Obama Citizenship” is riddled with errors. Allow me to correct the record for you.  I have said in my law suit that I believe Obama was born in Hawaii, so I have no idea why your story makes it seem as if my law suit is centered on the issue of where Obama was born.  You wrote,

“The President-elect has maintained he was born in the United States.”

The main argument of my law suit alleges that since Obama was a British citizen - at birth - a fact he admits is true, then he cannot be a “natural born citizen”.  The word “born” has meaning.  It deals with the status of a presidential candidate “at birth”.  Obama had dual nationality at birth.  The status of the candidate at the time of the election is not as relevant to the provisions of the Constitution as is his status “at birth.”  If one is not “born” a natural born citizen, he can never be a natural born citizen.

Furthermore, the case is scheduled for conference of all nine Justices, not eight. You should correct that.

And your reporting, which could have been complete with a simple phone call to the Public Information Office, is also deficient in that it wasn’t Justice Thomas alone who distributed the case for conference of December 5, 2008.  That was a decision taken after consideration of the full Court.

There are two docket entries for Nov. 19.  One of them shows that Justice Thomas referred the case to the full court.  The other indicates that the full court distributed the case for conference of Dec. 5. I suggest you call Patricia McCabe Estrada, Deputy Public Information Officer for the United States Supreme Court.  She will set you and your story straight.

The case could have easily been denied after Justice Thomas referred it to the full court.  There was no requirement that it be distributed for conference.  In fact, the normal procedure in referred applications involves no public mention of such cases until after the full Court has taken some action.  There is an official Supreme Court Publication entitled

“A REPORTER’S GUIDE TO APPLICATIONS Pending Before The Supreme Court of the United States”

You may find it here:

http://www.supremecourtus.gov/publicinfo/reportersguide.pdf

It will guide you with accuracy to the actions involved in the case you are reporting upon.  On page 3, it states:

“The Circuit Justice may act on an application alone or refer it to the full Court for consideration. The fact that an application has been referred to the full Court may not be known publicly until the Court acts on the application and the referral is noted in the Court’s order.

Now go back and check the docket url for my case.

http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08a407.htm

Another misleading element of your story is the headline.  The Supreme Court will be focused on the issue of Obama’s eligibility to be President, not on his citizenship status.  Just being a “Citizen” is not enough to be President.  I have no doubt, and I’m sure the Supreme Court concurs, that Obama is a United States citizen.

But the Constitution draws a direct distinction between “Citizens” and “Natural Born Citizens”.  Citizens may be Senators and Representatives, but it takes something else to be President.  So, your headline is wrong as well as your story.

If you would like to respond to this letter, which I have just published in my blog about the case, feel free to do so and I will publish your response as is.

My blog URL is http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com

Yesterday, a reporter from the Kansas City Star wrote an equally misleading report about my case.  After readers of this blog confronted him, he had the decency to call me and apologize for the wrong treatment my case received in his report.  We struck up a good conversation and I gave him proper respect for his admission.  I am here to talk any time you like. I understand the concepts are technical and non-lawyers have problems with them.

Regards,

Leo C. Donofrio

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#1. To: roughrider, christine, Pinguinite, angle, Lady X, Cynicom, Tauzero, aristeides, wbales, Ridinshotgun, DeaconBenjamin, Horse, Ada, HOUNDDAWG, nikki, farmfriend, Jethro Tull, Dakmar, echo5sierra, scrapper2, noone222, Rotara, honway, Original_Intent (#0)

The main argument of my law suit alleges that since Obama was a British citizen - at birth - a fact he admits is true, then he cannot be a “natural born citizen”. The word “born” has meaning. It deals with the status of a presidential candidate “at birth”. Obama had dual nationality at birth. The status of the candidate at the time of the election is not as relevant to the provisions of the Constitution as is his status “at birth.” If one is not “born” a natural born citizen, he can never be a natural born citizen.

The crux of the matter.

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-04   15:43:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#2. To: bluegrass (#1)

I'll take the under on their hearing it.

Lod  posted on  2008-12-04 16:33:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: bluegrass (#1) (Edited)

The law relating to the "federal" government is NOT THE CONSTITUTION. The "federal" system is operated on commercial terms, by contracts implicit and explicit, agreements, treaties etc., ... the CONstitution has no relevance nor does Obama's Birth Certificate.

We ain't in Kansas anymore Toto, and we haven't been for a very long time. The cause of this lies primarily with the fiat currency, which establishes the choice of law. We, through operation of the fiat money system, have acquiesced to the commercial law system.

The law of the land requires gold and silver coin as legal tender, period. Any deviation from this establishes a non-constitutional form of governance. We have transformed from the law of the land (common-law) into a Law of the Sea (Marine - Admiralty) commercial contract law that operates summary judgments.

EDIT: Has there been FRAUD ? The following is the technical description of a FRN Dollar:

F...ederal

R...eserve

A...ccounting

U...nit

D...evice

We report, you decide.

2nd Edit:

Everything in the fiat system operates upon FICTION. There are no rules other than those agreed to and CONstitutional requirements like Natural Born Citizen only apply in the original Law of the Land or Common-Law jurisdiction, not in the fictional "federal" zone.

noone222  posted on  2008-12-04 18:46:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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