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Title: ABC News Gets The Donofrio SCOTUS Story Wrong
Source: Leo Donofrio's Blog
URL Source: http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress ... e-donofrio-scotus-story-wrong/
Published: Dec 4, 2008
Author: Leo Donofrio
Post Date: 2008-12-04 15:38:11 by bluegrass
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Dear Mr. Terry Owens and ABC News.

The story you printed today with the headline, “Supreme Court to Decide Obama Citizenship” is riddled with errors. Allow me to correct the record for you.  I have said in my law suit that I believe Obama was born in Hawaii, so I have no idea why your story makes it seem as if my law suit is centered on the issue of where Obama was born.  You wrote,

“The President-elect has maintained he was born in the United States.”

The main argument of my law suit alleges that since Obama was a British citizen - at birth - a fact he admits is true, then he cannot be a “natural born citizen”.  The word “born” has meaning.  It deals with the status of a presidential candidate “at birth”.  Obama had dual nationality at birth.  The status of the candidate at the time of the election is not as relevant to the provisions of the Constitution as is his status “at birth.”  If one is not “born” a natural born citizen, he can never be a natural born citizen.

Furthermore, the case is scheduled for conference of all nine Justices, not eight. You should correct that.

And your reporting, which could have been complete with a simple phone call to the Public Information Office, is also deficient in that it wasn’t Justice Thomas alone who distributed the case for conference of December 5, 2008.  That was a decision taken after consideration of the full Court.

There are two docket entries for Nov. 19.  One of them shows that Justice Thomas referred the case to the full court.  The other indicates that the full court distributed the case for conference of Dec. 5. I suggest you call Patricia McCabe Estrada, Deputy Public Information Officer for the United States Supreme Court.  She will set you and your story straight.

The case could have easily been denied after Justice Thomas referred it to the full court.  There was no requirement that it be distributed for conference.  In fact, the normal procedure in referred applications involves no public mention of such cases until after the full Court has taken some action.  There is an official Supreme Court Publication entitled

“A REPORTER’S GUIDE TO APPLICATIONS Pending Before The Supreme Court of the United States”

You may find it here:

http://www.supremecourtus.gov/publicinfo/reportersguide.pdf

It will guide you with accuracy to the actions involved in the case you are reporting upon.  On page 3, it states:

“The Circuit Justice may act on an application alone or refer it to the full Court for consideration. The fact that an application has been referred to the full Court may not be known publicly until the Court acts on the application and the referral is noted in the Court’s order.

Now go back and check the docket url for my case.

http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08a407.htm

Another misleading element of your story is the headline.  The Supreme Court will be focused on the issue of Obama’s eligibility to be President, not on his citizenship status.  Just being a “Citizen” is not enough to be President.  I have no doubt, and I’m sure the Supreme Court concurs, that Obama is a United States citizen.

But the Constitution draws a direct distinction between “Citizens” and “Natural Born Citizens”.  Citizens may be Senators and Representatives, but it takes something else to be President.  So, your headline is wrong as well as your story.

If you would like to respond to this letter, which I have just published in my blog about the case, feel free to do so and I will publish your response as is.

My blog URL is http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com

Yesterday, a reporter from the Kansas City Star wrote an equally misleading report about my case.  After readers of this blog confronted him, he had the decency to call me and apologize for the wrong treatment my case received in his report.  We struck up a good conversation and I gave him proper respect for his admission.  I am here to talk any time you like. I understand the concepts are technical and non-lawyers have problems with them.

Regards,

Leo C. Donofrio

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#33. To: bluegrass (#31)

If you want to be associated with the more ignorant elements of the culture, that's your biz

I wonder if Thomas Jefferson called them niggers.

Actually I usually don't use the word. But today I am. So be it.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-12-06   8:49:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Old Friend (#30)

One of the biggest problems with this country is the way everyone dances around race.

I'll discuss race all day long. I once tried to get a thread going on it here based on Yockey's writings.

What doesn't interest me is pointless invective as a means of rage dispersal.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-06   8:49:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Old Friend (#33)

I wonder if Thomas Jefferson called them niggers.

Tom also was in favor of shooting Injuns. Let's just pretend that we've all grown up a little, ok?

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-06   8:50:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: bluegrass (#34)

It is a word. If it offends to bad. Don't like me because I said it. Who cares.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-12-06   8:50:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: bluegrass (#35)

Tom also was in favor of shooting Injuns.

You mean the godless savages? God warned those that follow other gods would be wiped out.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-12-06   8:52:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: bluegrass (#34)

Who is Yockey?

Old Friend  posted on  2008-12-06   8:53:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: bluegrass (#26)

Based on some information I was able to access at the secret-members-only section of Worldnetdaily, it is reasonable to suspect that Obama is, IN FACT the product of alien (as in space alien) artificial insemination of his mother.

His birth certificate and his daddy of convenience are irrelevant. The really interesting issue is whether his alien daddy comes from OUR galaxy or from a foreign galaxy and no Hawaii birth registrar office can answer this question.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-12-06   8:53:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#39)

Dude shut up. You have sex with animals.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-12-06   8:54:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Old Friend (#36)

It doesn't offend me. It hurts the board and the discussion.

I trust you see my point.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-06   8:54:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#39)

His birth certificate and his daddy of convenience are irrelevant.

Only if one has no interest in law being the basis of American society.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-06   8:55:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Old Friend (#38)

Who is Yockey?

Educate yourself and get back to me. I'm not going to waste my time on you.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-06   8:55:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: bluegrass (#43) (Edited)

Old Friend  posted on  2008-12-06   8:58:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: bluegrass (#43)

Yockey must not be worhth a shit or you would mention it.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-12-06   8:58:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: bluegrass (#42)

Like in Jesus case, at the time of Hussein's birth, local people reported bright lights in the sky (UFOs?).

We should discuss Obama's Americanness in the same way we discuss Jesus' Jewishness. Was Jesus a Jew? Not entirely and yet he answered in the affirmative when asked whether he was the King of the Hymies.

Think about it.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-12-06   8:59:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: bluegrass (#42)

Only if one has no interest in law being the basis of American society.

Gotta get around that pesky Constimuhtooshun somehow.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2008-12-06   9:01:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#46)

These comparisons between Obama and Jesus get funnier with every passing day.

Do you burn incense in front of a black-velvet painting of Obama while you pray?

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-06   9:01:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: bluegrass (#48)

Old Friend  posted on  2008-12-06   9:02:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Old Friend (#45)

As I said, educate yourself and get back to me. Here's a hint, assuming you can use google: yockey nuremberg

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-06   9:03:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: bluegrass (#50)

Nah. I wanted you to post something from him. But if you don't want to that's ok too.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-12-06   9:04:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Esso (#47)

that pesky Constimuhtooshun

Looks like they finally did.

But hey, if they're not bound by law, neither are we.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-06   9:04:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Old Friend (#51)

I know. Using google is REALLY hard.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-06   9:04:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: bluegrass (#53)

Oh yes it is much to complicated for me.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-12-06   9:05:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: bluegrass (#52) (Edited)

But hey, if they're not bound by law, neither are we.

It's like you are channeling Jesus. As you know, he wasn't exactly appreciative or respectful when it came to the Pharisees, Sadducees and the other contemporary 'teachers of the law'. He represented a way higher law and he used to call those good people 'hypocrites' every time he had a chance.

So, can we say that the Birth Cetificatists are today's Pharissees, the 'Obama is of the British Royal family' guys are the Sadducees and the Alan Keys/Thomas faction are the 'teachers of the law'?

They all wanted to kill Jesus.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-12-06   9:28:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#55)

They all wanted to kill Jesus.

According to the story, Jesus was dead three days after throwing the moneychangers out of the Temple.

Let me know when St. Bracko takes on the Lords of Money. Thus far, he's been dancing to their tune and living on their dime.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-06   9:38:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: bluegrass (#56)

Obama didn't make it to the temple yet. But Jesus challenged his doubters to take the temple down and he was going to rebuild it in 3 days.

Jesus also advised his followers to spare no expense on him and provide him with all the luxuries while they still had him.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-12-06   9:43:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#57) (Edited)

Seriously, let me know when Obama goes up against the bankers instead of being their trained monkey.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-06   9:45:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: bluegrass (#58)

What's wrong with the bankers again? I forgot.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-12-06   9:48:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#59)

As I said to the other ignoramus on this thread: Educate yourself and get back to me. I'm not going to waste my time on you.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-06   9:49:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: bluegrass (#60)

Okay, so there's nothing wrong with 'the bankers' but it sounds 'really good' to say it. Yes?

Do you have a bank account?

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-12-06   9:50:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#61)

so there's nothing wrong with 'the bankers'

As long as they get your dancing chimp in office, I suppose not.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-06   9:57:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#61)

Do you have a bank account?

The place where bluegrass keeps his dough is a cracker box run by small-timers like you and me compared to the professional thieves who blackmail Congress into forking out unaccounted for trillions of bucks which we don't have so they can fly off to San Diego resorts for $200 toe jobs.

A more crooked class of parasites has never fastened down upon our body politic and finances since the day we declared ourselves a republic.

I hope they choke.

randge  posted on  2008-12-06   10:49:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: randge (#63)

bluegrass keeps his dough

If songs were money, I'd be a millionaire. : )

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-06   11:09:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: bluegrass (#23)

Keep on wishing. He was born in the U.S. Therefore he is a naturalized citizen.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-12-06   14:08:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#65)

Therefore he is a naturalized citizen.

Naturalized citizens can't be president. Only natural born citizens. Obama isn't a natural born citizen.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-06   14:11:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Old Friend (#25)

Another typical racist punk aren't you? I bet you are so proud that you can hide behind your keyboard and make such sick, childish remarks aren't you?

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-12-06   14:13:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: bluegrass (#66)

Natural born. Read the Revised Code. By the way, you are a punk.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-12-06   14:13:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#68)

Natural born.

Right. Obama admits that he was born with dual citizenship. That's not a natural born citizen.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-06   14:20:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: bluegrass (#69)

Read the law. A person born with dual citizenship who is born in the U.S. is still a natural born citizen. And while you airheads whine about this propaganda the country gets dragged further into the gutter and destroyed. I now understand how communist countries and dictatorships come about - ignorant people like you who are distracted by the propaganda and refuse to see the important issues. You are a wanna-be commie leader's dream.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-12-06   14:26:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#70)

Read the law.

Show me the law.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-06   14:27:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: bluegrass (#71)

don't waste my time. If you can't read what I posted then go outside and play.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-12-06   14:30:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#72)

Nothing about dual citizenship comes up in what you posted.

Cite the specific law stating that someone born a dual citizen is a natural born citizen.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-06   14:33:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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