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Title: Israel Angry at Pope Over Terror Comments
Source: Associated Press
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050725/ap_on_re_eu/pope_terrorism
Published: Jul 25, 2005
Author: VICTOR L. SIMPSON
Post Date: 2005-07-25 23:13:18 by 1776
Ping List: *Israeli Espionage*
Keywords: Comments, Israel, Terror
Views: 112
Comments: 8

Pope Benedict XVI faced the first major conflict of his 3-month-old papacy when Israel summoned the Vatican envoy Monday to express outrage that the pope "deliberately failed" to condemn terrorist attacks against Israelis.

The pontiff also said in separate comments Monday that he didn't see any anti-Christian motive in recent attacks blamed on Muslim extremists and urged dialogue with the best elements of Islam.

The German-born Benedict, who has consistently reached out to Jews since assuming the papacy, was criticized by Israel for remarks Sunday from his Alpine vacation retreat in northwestern Italy.

He prayed for God to stop the "murderous hand" of terrorists and referred to the recent "abhorrent terrorist attacks" in Egypt, Britain, Turkey and Iraq, but did not mention attacks in Israel.

"The pope deliberately failed to condemn the terrible terror attack that occurred in Israel last week," a Foreign Ministry statement issued in Jerusalem said.

A July 12 suicide bombing in the seaside city of Netanya killed five Israelis. Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.

"We expected that the new pope, who on taking office emphasized the importance he places on relations between the Church and the Jewish people, would behave differently," the Israeli statement said. It called on the pope to condemn attacks "against Jews in the same way he condemns terror attacks against others."

Later, Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom appeared to soften the criticism, saying he hoped the failure to mention the attack in Netanya "was a mistake and not a deliberate omission."

Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls, accompanying Benedict on vacation, issued a one-line statement saying the papal envoy "has already replied to the Israeli government." It did not elaborate.

Later, Navarro-Valls released a second statement in which he noted that Benedict's words expressly referred to terror attacks in "recent days."

"It's surprising that one would have wanted to take the opportunity to distort the intentions of the Holy Father," Navarro-Valls said in the statement. "Obviously the other week's grave attack in Netanya referred to by Israel falls under the general and unreserved condemnation of terrorism."

Benedict has issued a series of condemnations of terrorist attacks since the July 7 London bombings.

Speaking to reporters Monday at his vacation retreat in Les Combes, Italy, Benedict said he did not see an anti-Christian motive in the recent wave of terrorist attacks blamed on Islamic extremists, attributing them instead to "a much more general intention."

Benedict also said it was important to seek dialogue with the best elements of Islam.

After visiting a church, the pope brushed off a question about whether he believed Islam was a religion of peace.

"I wouldn't want to label (it)," he said. "Certainly there are elements that favor peace. It also has other elements."

Benedict said last week that terrorism is not the result of a clash between the West and Islam, but the action of "fanatics."

The pope's spokesman said Sunday that Benedict was placing immense importance on a meeting with Muslims in Cologne, Germany, while he is in his homeland next month to lead the Roman Catholic Church's World Youth Day. He also plans to visit a synagogue in Cologne that was destroyed by the Nazis and rebuilt in the 1950s.

Benedict served in the Hitler Youth organization as a teen and later deserted from the German army in the waning days of World War II.

Jewish leaders who have met with Benedict have given him high marks for his behind-the-scenes work to improve Catholic-Jewish relations during his years at the Vatican during the papacy of the late Pope John Paul II. He has also denounced the Nazi persecution of the Jews after watching a film on the life of John Paul that included graphic scenes of Nazis killing Jews and Poles.


Poster Comment:

He has made obeisance to World Jewry most of his life and apparently he still has to "grow".

Now the last Pope, he knew how to accept criticism:

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#1. To: 1776 (#0)

He prayed for God to stop the "murderous hand" of terrorists and referred to the recent "abhorrent terrorist attacks" in Egypt, Britain, Turkey and Iraq, but did not mention attacks in Israel.

Why should they care, he's not their religious leader. Do they demand the same standards from their own rabbis?

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-07-25   23:26:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: 1776 (#0)

Pope Benedict XVI faced the first major conflict of his 3-month-old papacy when Israel summoned the Vatican envoy Monday to express outrage that the pope "deliberately failed" to condemn terrorist attacks against Israelis.

How can they claim that the pope deliberately failed to condemn. Do they know what he's thinking? Now they're trying to control not only what someone says but what someone doesn't say? Talk about damned if you do and damned if you don't.

christine  posted on  2005-07-25   23:33:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: 1776 (#0)

Warsaw, Poland, 1999
John Paul II gets an earful from his boss, Rabbi Menachem Joskowicz, who orders him to, "Remove those obscene crosses from Auschwitz!" The so-called "Vicar of Christ on earth" obediently did as the Pharisee commanded.

Washington Report

1776  posted on  2005-07-25   23:43:16 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine, robin, wbales (#2)

Now they're trying to control not only what someone says but what someone doesn't say? Talk about damned if you do and damned if you don't.

This is a conditioning response. They are showing their power. They are making the spiritual leader of over one billion people, bow down to their power.
They will have their way. Of course there was a time when Christians were Christian and if some loud-mouth rabbi dared to address someone of the Christian clergy in so rude a manner they would have been put in their place, but today? With Judeo-Christians, why it is the Christian who bows down to the Anti-Christs. Read Martin Luther for contrast.

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1776  posted on  2005-07-25   23:47:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: 1776 (#0)

His big "crime" is forgetting to mention Israel?

I know kids who whine less than this bunch.

5 year olds at that.

"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-07-26   0:40:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Jhoffa_ (#5)

His big "crime" is forgetting to mention Israel?

Well their strategy works, it works VERY well.
Not the American spirit but very effective. Then again the American spirit ain't what it used to be.

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1776  posted on  2005-07-26   0:47:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: 1776, christine, robin, wbales, BTP Holdings (#4)

My Whine picks, top 5 from readers of Ynetnews... Foreign Ministry sources, 'This is legitimizing the murder of Jews'

5. The Pope

THIS POPE IS DANGEROUS FOR ISRAEL.

Dijkstra, Bolsward NL (07.25.05)

4. This is why we must increase number of Jews 10X worldwide

We need to increase number of children we have and number of conversions. People dont respect Jews worldwide because we dont represent a large enough chunk of the population and too many of the ones who speak out are self-hating Jews. The world takes our technology, philosophy, widsom, arts, and blood from us, but they dont respect us because we dont force them to. Millions of Arabs and Muslims export terror and incitement around the world and they get listened to. We help the world and we get nothing. Stop helping the world first and us second. I'd rather be right than popular. When we have more children, we will be right and popular.

Am Yisrael Chai. David Landman, Natick, USA (07.25.05)

3. What about Israel?

Israel is engaged in a mere conflict so says the world. As though Israel is not part of the greater world we see the rest "world is in the throws of terror." The Pople left Israel out of the equation because everyone else does! He was merely following the lead of other heads of state, etc.

They are all bereft of scruples when it comes to Israel. Befeft with no shame!

Suzzane, Iowa (07.25.05)

2. save some words, Papa, for Italy..she is next.

Look who is talking - I hope he save his words for the next terror attacks inside Italia.. The Papa should better start writing his next condemn for terrorists attacks in Italy... and he should hurry. Old racist and jipocrite.

Amiram Levy, Tel-Aviv (07.26.05)

1. shameless nazi !!!!

Wait till the bombs explode inside the VATICAN !!!!!

Alfredo, Tel-Aviv (07.26.05)

“Under this roof are the heads of the family of Rothschild, a name famous in every capital of Europe, and every division of the globe." -Benjamin Disraeli

Eoghan  posted on  2005-07-26   4:43:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Eoghan (#7)

IMO, Israel, like the US creates allot of it's own problems.

Needless, wanton meddling..

It's no wonder people hate us. Some people will naturally be jealous, we'll have rivals, etc. There's nothing you can do about them. Appeasement is out of the question.

Others, however, hate us (and them) with good cause.

That's the truth and, unfortunately, all the flag waving and chest puffing in the world won't change it.

"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-07-26   10:15:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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