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War, War, War See other War, War, War Articles Title: Gates: More brigades to Afghanistan by summer KANDAHAR, Afghanistan (AP) - The Pentagon is moving to get three of the four combat brigades requested by commanders into Afghanistan by summer, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Wednesday as he traveled here to meet with military leaders. In his most specific comments to date about how soon he will meet the call for up to 20,000 more troops in Afghanistan, Gates said he will not have to cut troop levels further in Iraq to free up at least two of those three brigades for Afghan duty. At the same time, Gates said a key "course correction" in the Afghanistan war for the administration of President-elect Barack Obama will be to build the Afghan army and better cooperate with Kabul on security operations. "I think there's a concern on the part of some of the Afghans that we sort of tell them what we're going to do, instead of taking proposals to them and getting their input and then working out with them what we're going to do, so it's a real partnership," Gates told reporters traveling with him to Afghanistan. "That's an important aspect of this, that I think we need a course correction." Gates met with Gen. David McKiernan, the commander of U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan, and was scheduled to gather with U.S. troops in Kandahar. McKiernan told reporters after the meeting that he believes the U.S. and its allies need to make a sustained commitment of troops over the next three or four years. He would not say whether that would be at the expected level of close to 50,000 U.S. troops—the current total plus the additional 20,000 he has asked for. Standing outside the headquarters of Regional Command South in Kandahar, Gates said, "This is a long fight, and I think we're in it till we are successful along with the Afghan people." Asked how many troops that means, Gates said: "I do believe there will be a requirement for sustained commitment here for some protracted period of time. How many years that is and how troops that is I think nobody knows at this point." The meetings come as senior military leaders and the White House are pulling together a broad new military strategy for Afghanistan, one that would shift the focus from the waning fight in Iraq to the escalating Afghan fight. Gates said he expects the troop levels in Iraq to remain fairly steady through the provincial elections early next year and "probably for some period of time after that." While there is wide agreement that the military emphasis will now shift to Afghanistan, long regarded as the secondary priority behind Iraq, there is still debate on how best to do it. McKiernan said Thursday that a key priority is to increase the size of the Afghan army and police. The U.S. has said it wants to double the size of the Afghan army, and McKiernan said he believes it will be three or four years before it is less reliant on international forces. Gates would not detail any of the findings that have surfaced in the strategy reviews. But the push to increase the size of the Afghan army is reflected in at least one of the ongoing studies. The White House, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the incoming Obama administration and Gen. David Petraeus, commander of U.S. Central Command, all are conducting their own reviews. Obama has said getting more troops to Afghanistan is a priority. Gates said he has no details on the expected deployments to Afghanistan next year, adding that he has not approved any orders for specific units. He said the Joint Chiefs may have identified the units, but he's not aware of those decisions. He added that he does not know when he will be able to send the fourth requested brigade. Gates and other U.S. officials have endorsed efforts to pour four combat brigades and thousands of support troops into Afghanistan to stem the spike in violence and tamp down the resurgence of the Taliban. Officials already had announced that one unit—the 3rd Brigade, 10th Mountain Division—would go to Afghanistan in January and that they would try to meet the rest of the troop requirements as soon as possible. But military leaders have resisted disclosing which units or how quickly they would go, saying much depends on how quickly troop levels can be cut in Iraq. A brigade is about 3,500 troops. The U.S. is working to meet deadlines in its agreement with Baghdad that require combat troops to leave the cities by June and be out of the country in three years. As planned, the number of combat brigades in Iraq is dropping to 14 early next year, and Gates said that level will enable him to get a second brigade to Afghanistan by summer. He said he's not sure whether the third brigade will be redirected to Afghanistan from a planned tour in Iraq or if it can be found elsewhere. Asked whether Marines may be tapped to go, Gates said the decision has not been made. The top Marine officer, Gen. James Conway, told The Associated Press this week that he believes there is a growing consensus that Marines could be used to fill part of the need in Afghanistan. If approved, he said, some could go there in early spring. "It's clear that the Marines want to be in the fight, that's what you'd expect," said Gates, adding that it's clear that the security situation has greatly improved in Iraq's Anbar province, where the bulk of the Marines are. "I don't have a problem with Gen. Conway's desire to have a bigger part of the mission in Afghanistan for the Marine Corps." He said he will wait for recommendations from his military leaders. There are 31,000 U.S. troops in Afghanistan, including 13,500 with the NATO-led coalition and 17,500 training Afghan troops and fighting the insurgency. There are 149,000 troops in Iraq. Gates' stop in Afghanistan was designed initially as a farewell tour to visit troops as he prepared to leave office. But that changed when he was asked to stay on by Obama, making Gates the new administration's Republican holdover in the Cabinet. During a NATO meeting in October, Gates asked allies to consider increasing troop levels in Afghanistan next year during the elections, a move that has been made for past votes, both there and in Iraq. Gates said the increase would be temporary, and it was not clear how many forces would be needed or who would provide them. At the same meeting, the allies also agreed on to step up their operations to combat Afghan drug lords who fuel terror networks. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 26.
#10. To: Vast (#0)
Vast, I have a question. With Obama signing off on putting more troops into Afghanistan will that mean more air-raiding of villages and killing civilians.? Perhaps he is counting on the bipartisan support of his "good war" in the American political matrix and media establishments? Maybe he's counting on you, McCarthy and Ico to send him your children and grand kids, where applicable? Are your young archers still in training? Will you pack them up and give them to Obingo for his war??
Seems to me a tacit acknowledgement that the reliance on air power has proved disastrous. Just yesterday, the US bombed an Afghan house killing 7 cops. Were they war/drug lords, corrupt cops , jihadis or really cops, who knows. Hence, more boots.
Yes indeed, and so much for our left-wing friends who followed (blindly) Obama, the man of peace. What stooges for the System they are.
Come on, it's turning out to be fun. I think Obama will skate with his lawyerly crawdaddying articulateness and deflect any BlagoGate from sticking to him. But, right now, he may well be the first to have a scandal well over a month before he takes office.
Blago is getting the "lone crazy man" treatment by the MSM. God forbid they acknowledge that he was just acting like 99.9% or all of our selected representatives. I'm not so sure the Big O is out of the wood on this. The were both breast fed from the same Chicago machine and Blago will sing like a bloody canary when he sees the time he's facing. Yes, fun times ahead for us non- practitioners. As for the die hards who hold the System is in place for them and the little people, well, not so good times :)
The faux outrage on TV takes the cake, doesn't it? Question is, why bust Blago now when, IMO, he hadn't commited a crime yet, ie, taken money or anything. Intent, sure, but they usually wait.
I do know that Blago blew off Obingo's choice for his Senate seat (well, the story goes she withdrew from consideration). So, the next actor in the play is Rahm and lo and behold, the rug is pulled out from underneath the good Gov. Just call me a wacky wing nut, but it isn't healthy to diss the new Don.
#27. To: Jethro Tull (#26)
Ah, that ole bitch, goodoldfashioned payback.
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