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Title: Court: No review of Obama's eligibility to serve
Source: The Guardian
URL Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/8144087
Published: Dec 11, 2008
Author: AP
Post Date: 2008-12-11 14:11:35 by a vast rightwing conspirator
Keywords: None
Views: 603
Comments: 55

Court: No review of Obama's eligibility to serve
AP foreign, Thursday December 11 2008
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court has turned down an emergency appeal from a New Jersey man who says President-elect Barack Obama is ineligible to be president because he was a British subject at birth.

The court did not comment on its order Monday rejecting the call by Leo Donofrio of East Brunswick, N.J., to intervene in the presidential election.

Donofrio says that since Obama had dual nationality at birth — his mother was American and his Kenyan father at the time was a British subject — he cannot possibly be a "natural born citizen," one of the requirements the Constitution lists for eligibility to be president.

Donofrio also contends that two other candidates, Republican John McCain and Socialist Workers candidate Roger Calero, also are not natural-born citizens and thus ineligible to be president.

At least one other appeal over Obama's citizenship remains at the court. Philip J. Berg of Lafayette Hill, Pa., argues that Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii as Obama says and Hawaii officials have confirmed.

Berg says Obama also may be a citizen of Indonesia, where he lived as a boy. Federal courts in Pennsylvania have dismissed Berg's lawsuit. Federal courts in Ohio and Washington state have rejected similar lawsuits.

Allegations raised on the Internet say the birth certificate, showing that Obama was born in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961, is a fake.

But Hawaii Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino and the state's registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, say they checked health department records and have determined there's no doubt Obama was born in Hawaii.

The nonpartisan Web site Factcheck.org examined the original document and said it does have a raised seal and the usual evidence of a genuine document.

In addition, Factcheck.org reproduced an announcement of Obama's birth, including his parents' address in Honolulu, that was published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Aug. 13, 1961.

(This version CORRECTS that Hawaii officials, not secretary of state, confirmed Obama birth certificate.)

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#1. To: All (#0)

Donofrio says that since Obama had dual nationality at birth — his mother was American and his Kenyan father at the time was a British subject — he cannot possibly be a "natural born citizen," one of the requirements the Constitution lists for eligibility to be president.

Maybe someone could ask Onofrio and other stupids like him.

Question: what was the citizenship 'at birth' of the following US presidents: Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe...

Gee, I hope it doesn't turn out that they were born British citizens, like REALLY British citizens at birth - no joke in their case.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-12-11   14:16:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#1)

Question: what was the citizenship 'at birth' of the following US presidents: Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe...

Have you ever actually read the Constitution? If so, you'd know that this was addressed in the document.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-11   14:18:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, christine, TwentyTwelve, Wudidiz, Rotara, Indie Tx, Pinguinite, CadetD, scrapper2, Jethro Tull, Lodwick, angle, Kamala, Ferret Mike, aristeides, all (#0)

This was a false flag Lawsuit. It was done to inoculate Barry Soetoro against challenges to his citizenship, and whether he can legally serve as President. This was the same ploy as with Klinton who was guilty of much worse than merely getting blow job from a Mossad Intern. Just as well there are much stronger evidences that Barry Soetoro is not legally qualified to hold office as President of the United States.

Barack Barry Hussein Soetoro Obama IS NOT even a U.S. Citizen. By all indications his citizenship was nullified by his mother when he became a Citizen of Indonesia.

There is no record of him ever recovering his U.S. Citizenship and becoming re-naturalized in fact he has sealed and secreted his College Records (Admission, Financial Aid, Grad School Application) so that they cannot be examined in the public eye. The most likely reason is that he applied for admission, and financial aid, as a foreign student with INDONESIAN Citizenship.

As well is the question of the sealed and hidden Birth Certificate. There IS a reason why it is being kept sealed. Were it released, and proved him a natural born U.S. Citizen, then it would have long ago been released. "The dog did not bark in the night." He will not release it. Therefore there is a problem with it. We cannot say for certain what the exact problem is but we can know that there is a problem by the adamant refusal to release it along with the expenditure of at least a million dollars in legal fees to prevent it from being released.

We know his Grandmother in Kenya claims to have been present at his birth IN KENYA. We don't know what his Grandmother in Hawaii might have said because she conveniently died before anyone could ask.

The controversy surrounding Oh'bummer's legality as both a U.S. Citizen and hence his ability to serve in the Presidency is NOT going away because there are several major fundamental questions regarding it.

At this point the CIA/NWO/Banksters MUST prevent a public airing of the issue and a valid legal challenge by whatever means as Obama cannot withstand a public legal examination and it prevents the approved puppet from being able to serve. It destroys the PsyOp which put him in office, and the effect of that PsyOp. Have no doubt that Obama was installed as part of a larger PsyOp as because of his alleged racial background, and Party affiliation, he is given greater freedom of action than another pseudo-candidate would have had. Destroying Obama's eligibility, and hence is ability to serve, destroys the PsyOp. That is why the CIA/NWO/Banksters will fight tooth and nail to prevent a valid challenge from reaching the Supreme Court. If one does likely they will tell the Court that if they accept the case that they WILL suffer.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-11   15:00:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: bluegrass (#2)

They were born in what became the US, while Hamilton was deemed ineligible because he was born in a British colony in the Carib.

Anyway, he's in, the issue is dead, and IMO, we have a man of doubtful citizenship about to assume the Presidency.

swarthyguy  posted on  2008-12-11   15:06:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Original_Intent (#3)

I'm in complete agreement with what you say. Good post.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-11   15:21:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: swarthyguy (#4)

the issue is dead, and IMO, we have a man of doubtful citizenship about to assume the Presidency.

The latter, yes. The former, no.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-11   15:21:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: swarthyguy (#4)

Anyway, he's in, the issue is dead, and IMO, we have a man of doubtful citizenship about to assume the Presidency.

The issue is not dead. There is still the Berg lawsuit as well as the one brought by Keyes.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2008-12-11   15:27:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: farmfriend, Original_Intent (#7)

IMO, Berg is part of the psy-op. He's a Hillary Dem and an oldhand Jew.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-11   15:29:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: bluegrass (#6)

Regardless of Obama's eligibility everyone will obey his every "Executive Order" to a "T", with a smile on their mopey faces, and will worship his fascist government to get their little dog food check from the Socialist Security Administration.

Pussies all !

They call it the AMERIKAN DREAM because you have to be asleep (and you are) to believe it !

noone222  posted on  2008-12-11   15:33:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: farmfriend (#7)

The issue is not dead. There is still the Berg lawsuit as well as the one brought by Keyes.

That's exactly right.

Frankly in my opinion I think Keyes lawsuit has the most stature and may not be so easily brushed aside..

Lady X  posted on  2008-12-11   15:34:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Original_Intent, bluegrass (#3)

I do not understand.

They could have gotten another black guy to run like that Harold Ford cat who was more than likely born here..

I just don't understand what you mean by false flag lawsuit..

Lady X  posted on  2008-12-11   15:36:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Lady X (#11)

Ford's not Obama. They've been grooming Obama for years.

I just don't understand what you mean by false flag lawsuit..

Berg's been pushing the "he was born in Kenya" meme. It's a BS meme that threw the whole topic off-track so that the real issue, Obama's being born a dual-citizen, was occluded.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-11   15:51:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: bluegrass (#12)

They could have groomed someone else..

Duel citizen blah blah blah he's still ineligible..

I agree with what you are saying about Berg but this other stuff I fully not understanding..

Are you saying Berg is a 'limited hangout' lawsuit???

Lady X  posted on  2008-12-11   15:55:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Lady X (#11)

I do not understand.

They could have gotten another black guy to run like that Harold Ford cat who was more than likely born here..

Obama has been groomed and trained for this since his college days. He appears to be covertly CIA - Brzhenski who accepted him into his special program (which only allows 8 students) is known to be a CIA Officer and Oh'bummer's first post college job was with a CIA Front Company. So, Oh'bummer appears to be a "made man" and thus a thoroughly controlled asset. Notice that like Bush he cannot ad-lib - that is because he operates off of a script. That is the PsyOp script and when forced off his script he does not know quite how to respond. He's better than Bush but all the tell tale signs are there.

I just don't understand what you mean by false flag lawsuit..

False Flag - another name for Trojan Horse - something that appears to be one thing while actually something totally different. The point of attacking Oh'bummer on a bogus lawsuit which can be denied is that it is a PsyOps/PR move which allows them to discredit other more valid lawsuits by associating the two i.e., Guilt by Association. So, by turning away a bad from the beginning lawsuit then all subsequent lawsuits can be discredited - no matter the facts.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-11   15:55:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Lady X (#13)

Are you saying Berg is a 'limited hangout' lawsuit???

Yes.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-11   15:57:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Original_Intent, bluegrass (#14)

Okay I see what you mean 'the waters have been tainted'..

Lady X  posted on  2008-12-11   15:58:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: bluegrass (#5)

Thank you.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-11   15:58:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Original_Intent (#14)

discredit

Worked pretty good for Bush.

DUI's, and NG in Alabama.

swarthyguy  posted on  2008-12-11   16:00:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Original_Intent (#17)

Notta.

We can fully expect that Obama will "look forward" and not prosecute one single Bush administration member for any of their crimes.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-11   16:00:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: swarthyguy (#18)

discredit

Worked pretty good for Bush.

DUI's, and NG in Alabama.

Exactly. The same M.O. at work here. Discredit the questions by planting a phoney, and easily discredited, charge.

Bush was/is a drunk and a Deserter. Were he not an asset he would have been Courts Martialed for what he did as a "Guardsman".

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-11   16:03:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Original_Intent, swarthyguy (#20)

Bush was/is a drunk and a Deserter. Were he not an asset he would have been Courts Martialed for what he did as a "Guardsman".

"The distinguishing characteristic of such a government is that adherents to it in a war against the government de jure do not incur the penalties of treason..."

Government Defacto, Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-11   16:06:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: bluegrass (#19) (Edited)

Notta.

We can fully expect that Obama will "look forward" and not prosecute one single Bush administration member for any of their crimes.

Absolutely. Oh'bummer works for the same people as Bush and the last thing they want is to prosecute Bush for his multiple "hanging offense" crimes - War Crimes, lying to the public to start a war etc., .... Oh'bummer is more of the same just different coloration in terms of "Party" (and the "Race Card") to make it more difficult to question his actions. More importantly is for him to be able to do things that a Republican Puppet would not be able to do. McNutz, or any other Republican than Ron Paul, would have had an anal microscope shoved up his .... He would not have the cover of Party and Race to give him the greater freedom of action to continue the next phase of the abolition of freedom in the United States.

Notice that, like Kerry, after McCain "took a dive" he rapidly disappeared into the background. McCain never had any intention of winning the (s)Election. That, among other things, is why I laugh at and deride the slack jawed drooling microencephalic imbeciles that inhabit that controlled PsyOps Web Forum known, Orwellianly enough, as "Free Republic". Fraud Republik is more like it. That is a tell tale giveaway. Also, notice that there was no questioning, by the McCain Camp, of Oh'Bummer's Citizenship during the charade of the (s)Election Campaign. As well, note that Brzhenski's Son was McLame's "foreign policy advisor".

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-11   16:13:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: swarthyguy, bluegrass, christine, Twenty Twelve, Wudidiz, all (#4) (Edited)

Anyway, he's in, the issue is dead, and IMO, we have a man of doubtful citizenship about to assume the Presidency.

The final act has not been played. I have no doubt that the CIA is busy trying to rework and falsify the documentary records, BUT as it stands now every law signed by Oh'Bummer is going to challenged in court on the grounds that Oh'Bummer is not legally the President and thus his signature on a law is worthless.

What that means is that unless they can plant convincing forgeries then at some point the charade will be unveiled. I think that the "bad guys" are running scared because they did not anticipate this becoming as big an issue as it has become because if they had the falsified records would already have been in place.

Expect there to be a lot of people dying of "accidents" who have handled and viewed those records. That is one of the big loose ends as those records were not secured and secreted until they got hit with this. So, a lot of people have seen them and anyone not already controlled is at risk of committing "Arkicide".

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-11   16:29:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Original_Intent (#22)

Also, notice that there was no questioning, by the McCain Camp, of Oh'Bummer's Citizenship during the charade of the (s)Election Campaign. As well, note that Brzhenski's Son was McLame's "foreign policy advisor".

Likewise, Gore faded from view when the 2004 election was obviously rigged.

Who's pulling Zbig's strings?

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-12-11   16:33:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Original_Intent (#23)

The final act has not been played. I have no doubt that the CIA is busy trying to rework and falsify the documentary records, BUT as it stands now every law signed by Oh'Bummer is going to challenged in court on the grounds that Oh'Bummer is not legally the President and thus his signature on a law is worthless.

The legal challenge is just beginning.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-12-11   16:48:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: TwentyTwelve, Original_Intent (#25)

I think we need to bring in Miami CSI and hunt for this document. This presidency can't stand!

Willie the Wacky Wiccan  posted on  2008-12-11   17:13:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Original_Intent (#3) (Edited)

This was a false flag Lawsuit. It was done to inoculate Barry Soetoro against challenges to his citizenship, and whether he can legally serve as President......

At this point the CIA/NWO/Banksters MUST prevent a public airing of the issue and a valid legal challenge by whatever means as Obama cannot withstand a public legal examination and it prevents the approved puppet from being able to serve. It destroys the PsyOp which put him in office, and the effect of that PsyOp. Have no doubt that Obama was installed as part of a larger PsyOp as because of his alleged racial background, and Party affiliation, he is given greater freedom of action than another pseudo-candidate would have had. Destroying Obama's eligibility, and hence is ability to serve, destroys the PsyOp. That is why the CIA/NWO/Banksters will fight tooth and nail to prevent a valid challenge from reaching the Supreme Court. If one does likely they will tell the Court that if they accept the case that they WILL suffer.

Well I guess this denial of the false flag lawsuit also covers the ass of the President who signed the antiChrist Noahide Laws into effect:

According to Otto Skorzeny, pictured is the Scherff family and a few friends (circa 1938). Holding “Mother" Scherff’s hand at left is Martin Bormann. In front is Reinhardt Gehlen. In back is Joseph Mengele and to his right is Skorzeny as a young man. At center right (in the German navy uniform) is George H. Scherff, Jr. and his father George H. Scherff, Sr. Bormann became Hitler’s second in command. Reinhardt Gehlen was a chief SS officer and assassin who was smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip. Skorzeny was Hitler's bodyguard and SS spy/assassin who came to the U.S. after the war under Project Paperclip. Skorzeny and GHW Bush were instrumental in merging Nazi (SS) intelligence with the OSI to form the CIA with "Wild Bill" Donovan and Allen Dulles. These guys were also part of CIA mind control experiments such as MK-ULTRA. SS officer and physician Joseph Mengele, the notoriously sadistic “Angel of Death” of Auschwitz, escaped Germany to South America after the war. George H. Scherff, Jr., became the 41st President of the United States as GHW Bush...

http://proliberty.com/observer/20070405.htm

edit...hope it works this time.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-12-11   17:14:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: bluegrass (#24)

Also, notice that there was no questioning, by the McCain Camp, of Oh'Bummer's Citizenship during the charade of the (s)Election Campaign. As well, note that Brzhenski's Son was McLame's "foreign policy advisor".

Likewise, Gore faded from view when the 2004 election was obviously rigged.

Who's pulling Zbig's strings?

The short answer is Rockefeller (or as I prefer Rockefucker). The Rockefuckers are in loose alliance, and competition, with the Rotchilds. Ultimately the Rotchilds are still the Alpha Psychotics, but like all good criminals the Rockefuckers would "off" the boss in a heartbeat. A few years ago the top Rockefeller (David I believe) was whacked - and then a couple of years later Jacob Rothschild, at that time head of the Rothschild Fambly, was whacked apparently in revenge.

Zibignew Brzhenski was the founding Chairman of the Trilateral Commission which was a Rockefeller funded operation. It gets a bit convoluted because Zbig is also CIA, but the CIA is controlled by forces outside the government - most likely the Rockefuckers. In the middle of this web of deceit are the Nazi Psychiatrists, imported under Operation Paperclip, and their successors. Notice that a lot of the attacks against us use Psychiatric tools - Psychotropic Drugs, Mass Mind Control, etc., .... When you dig further into the background you find Psychiatrists all over the place. Take for example Brock Chisholm the Founding Chairman of the World Federation of Mental Hellth who was a big proponent and operative for the infant New World Government - which relies heavily upon Psychiatric Mind Control techniques.

"What basic psychological distortion can be found in every civilization of which we know anything? The only psychological force capable of producing these perversions is morality--the concept of right and wrong. The re-interpretation and eventual eradication of the concept of right and wrong are the belated objectives of nearly all psychotherapy." ~ Dr. G. Brock Chisholm, Psychiatrist

Here is an example, forwarded to me by a friend, of what we can expect from Oh'Bummer and illustrates my point on the Mental Hellth State:

Background Data

The New Freedom Commission on Mental Health

The New Freedom Commission on Mental Health is a 93-page report put together by the psychiatric/pharmaceutical industry in 2003 as a recommendation to the President for mental health plans in the US.

The only words to describe the recommendations of this report are "Orwellian" and horrifying.

This plan lays out detailed programs to screen all Americans for mental "disorders" and includes recommended drug treatment plans. It includes specific mental health screening programs for the elderly, all military personnel, all U.S. school children, drug addicts (and redefining drug addiction as a mental disease) the poor, screening all pregnant women and infants, (the Mothers Act and another bill detailed below) specific drug treatment flow charts, mental health parity (equal coverage for mental illness as that granted for real physical illness/disease) and more.

It also includes a comprehensive drug plan, which is basically a flow chart of psychiatric drugs -- essentially try this drug; if it fails, try this other drug; if that fails, combine drugs; if that fails down to electroshock. And while it is true that this committee was commissioned by President Bush, the laws to enforce their recommendations are what are now surfacing. The only member of Congress to introduce laws opposing it, is Congressman Ron Paul who introduced the Parental Consent Act of 2005 and 2007.


"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-11   17:29:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Original_Intent (#28)

Zibignew Brzhenski was the founding Chairman of the Trilateral Commission which was a Rockefeller funded operation. It gets a bit convoluted because Zbig is also CIA, but the CIA is controlled by forces outside the government - most likely the Rockefuckers.

Rockefuckers et al....according to Eustace Mullins who has spent at least 60 years investigating all this, confirms that the CIA, KGB, Mossad, and British Intelligence ALL work together for the Banksters.

www.whale.to/b/mullins3.html

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-12-11   17:43:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#1) (Edited)

Question: what was the citizenship 'at birth' of the following US presidents: Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe...

Gee, I hope it doesn't turn out that they were born British citizens, like REALLY British citizens at birth - no joke in their case.

You can be among be the first Obama citizens. The rest of us are going to ignore the status of Obama as president. He will never be president of the USA. He can be president of the elite's fantasy land, but nothing else. No one is going to put up with this crap. The elite have pushed the American citizens too far.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-12-11   17:58:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#29)

Rockefuckers

I'm appalled !!!!!

They call it the AMERIKAN DREAM because you have to be asleep (and you are) to believe it !

noone222  posted on  2008-12-11   18:02:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: bluegrass (#2)

Have you ever actually read the Constitution? If so, you'd know that this was addressed in the document.

He voted for Obama, what do yo expect?

The only reading he does is about how Obama is going to make everything good.

He believes the MSM propaganda about him, damn fool that he is.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-12-11   18:04:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: noone222 (#31)

lol!!!

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-12-11   18:05:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#29)

Rockefuckers et al....according to Eustace Mullins who has spent at least 60 years investigating all this, confirms that the CIA, KGB, Mossad, and British Intelligence ALL work together for the Banksters.

Basically "wholly owned subsidiaries". The CIA IS an UNAmerican activity.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-11   18:09:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Original_Intent (#23)

Expect there to be a lot of people dying of "accidents" who have handled and viewed those records. That is one of the big loose ends as those records were not secured and secreted until they got hit with this. So, a lot of people have seen them and anyone not already controlled is at risk of committing "Arkicide".

The elite are fairly dumb, but I don't believe they are quite that dumb. Obama was their choice precisely because of his foreign born status and past with drugs and male prostitutes. They are not concerned about producing a valid BC document because no court in the USA will make them.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-12-11   18:13:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: RickyJ (#35)

They are not concerned about producing a valid BC document because no court in the USA will make them.

Which might be why Harry Reid included a raise for Fed Judges with the auto bailout. To turn a 'blind eye', just in case.

I'm wondering what currency will be used to bribe judges? The FRN?

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2008-12-11   18:19:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: RickyJ (#35)

Expect there to be a lot of people dying of "accidents" who have handled and viewed those records. That is one of the big loose ends as those records were not secured and secreted until they got hit with this. So, a lot of people have seen them and anyone not already controlled is at risk of committing "Arkicide".

The elite are fairly dumb, but I don't believe they are quite that dumb. Obama was their choice precisely because of his foreign born status and past with drugs and male prostitutes. They are not concerned about producing a valid BC document because no court in the USA will make them.

Yes and no. Yes the courts are controlled but without giving up the pretense that we still live in a free country, which is part of the Psychiatric Control Regime, they cannot permit too many credible witnesses to come forward. Because they are stupid, criminals are ultimately stupid because their actions are uniformly destructive, they think like thugs in Saville Row Suits - their response is to whack anyone that poses a potential real threat. Look at all the dead bodies surrounding Klinton.

If too many witnesses and too much evidence comes forward they either have to let Oh'bummer fall or whack the key witnesses. The Banksters have a lot invested in Oh'Bummer so they'll whack a few people to prevent "embarassing" revelations.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-11   18:57:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: bluegrass (#2)

vast wouldn't know the Constitution if it fell from the sky.

Then again, Obama supporters tend not to have reading comprehension skills beyond a third grade level, it seems...

It is now time for Atlas to shrug.

mirage  posted on  2008-12-12   3:35:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#33)

hehehehe !!!

They call it the AMERIKAN DREAM because you have to be asleep (and you are) to believe it !

noone222  posted on  2008-12-12   4:02:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Original_Intent (#29)

Zibignew Brzhenski was the founding Chairman of the Trilateral Commission which was a Rockefeller funded operation. It gets a bit convoluted because Zbig is also CIA, but the CIA is controlled by forces outside the government - most likely the Rockefuckers.

Rockefuckers et al....according to Eustace Mullins who has spent at least 60 years investigating all this, confirms that the CIA, KGB, Mossad, and British Intelligence ALL work together for the Banksters. .....

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Basically "wholly owned subsidiaries". The CIA IS an UNAmerican activity.

Most definitely.

side note...I was doing a search on Winston Churchill and the subject of Gog and Magog, and ran across this little tidbit:

"...The Scythian, Ashkenazi - Khazar, Robert Maxwell, was certainly guilty of betraying and defrauding countless thousands of countless millions. But, this surely pales into insignificance at the side of the damage inflicted on us by that other False - Israelite, the late, Lord Victor Rothschild, who, at long last, has finally been identified as 'The Fifth Man', alongside the other four Cambridge spies: Guy Burgess, Donald Maclean, Kim Philby, and Anthony Blunt. He was correctly identified as "Britain's greatest traitor", in The Daily Express, on Saturday, October 15th 1994. Hardly surprising, in true Rothschild fashion, he was able to run with the hare and bite with the hounds. For this 3rd Lord Rothschild, of the mighty banking dynasty, was a member of MI5, Israeli Intelligence, the Mossad, the KGB, and an agent - runner for heads of MI6. For a banker, split allegiances do not represent a conflict of interests. They are essential if you are in the business of money lending. Bankers always create conflicts in order to finance both sides. .."

answering-christianity.com/14gog.htm

We financed the banksters' buildup of communism and fascism so we could finance the "fight" against them, in order to bankrupt us and kill off a lot of patriotic people in the process. But you knew that.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-12-12   5:49:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#40) (Edited)

Donald Maclean

FAG ... like the others.

They call it the AMERIKAN DREAM because you have to be asleep (and you are) to believe it !

noone222  posted on  2008-12-12   5:51:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Original_Intent (#3)

I look forward to President Obama's inaugeration. If fact I have tickets and will be there to watch the 44th President of the United States take office.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-12-19   19:51:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Ferret Mike (#42)

I look forward to President Obama's inaugeration. If fact I have tickets and will be there to watch the 44th President of the United States take office.

Don't forget the Grape Kool-Aid for the Official Toast.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-22   1:55:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Original_Intent, ferret mike (#43)

I look forward to President Obama's inaugeration. If fact I have tickets and will be there to watch the 44th President of the United States take office.

Don't forget the Grape Kool-Aid for the Official Toast.

He's a Traitor with a Mental Disorder.

I now believe they are FAR worse than the bushbot Traitors, FAR FAR worse.

Wow.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-22   1:59:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Rotara, Weasel Mike, Ferret Mike (#44) (Edited)

I now believe they are FAR worse than the bushbot Traitors, FAR FAR worse.

Why do you hate Amurka? /Bushbot /O'bot

I really see no difference between the two. The only difference between a Bushbot and an O'bot is, uh, uh, errr, ummm, uh, nada. Superficially they hail from different Parties, but as you well know there is only 1 Party - that of the Banksters.

Duped Fools/Hired Shills such as Mikey are of the same stripe as Bushbots because it is the same mindless unreasoning reactive behavior - "worship Der Fuhrer" "he vill safe us from the eeful (insert PsyOps bogeyman reference here)". Neither the O'bot nor the Bushbot thinks - they both are recordings of PsyOps indoctrination lines which they regurgitate when you pull their string. They do not think, they do not reason, they simply do what their programming instructs them to do.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-22   2:22:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Original_Intent (#45)

"worship Der Fuhrer" "he vill safe us from the eeful (insert PsyOps bogeyman reference here).

ha ha! now that is funny.

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-12-22   2:33:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Original_Intent (#45)

I really see no difference between the two.

The difference is that one of them has dreamed of the people's paradise for most their life and the other is so Heavenly minded they're simply dangerous on earth. IMO

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-22   2:36:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Artisan, Original_Intent (#46)

ha ha! now that is funny.

That good man right there is one of the sharpest knives in any drawer, anywhere.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-22   2:38:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Artisan (#46)

Thanks. It always makes me happy to make others smile.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-22   3:07:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Rotara (#48) (Edited)

Now stop that - you're going to make me have to pretend to be modest. ;-)

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-22   3:08:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Rotara (#47)

I really see no difference between the two.

The difference is that one of them has dreamed of the people's paradise for most their life and the other is so Heavenly minded they're simply dangerous on earth. IMO

As I see it both are operating off of false data and hence false conclusions. I am not so charitable about those who indulge in paroxysms of religious ecstasy while supporting the snuffing of several million people. Somehow I doubt that God approves of such behavior and thus pretensions to holiness ring hollow. Just as equally screwy are the left wing whackjobs who seem to think that the government that smashes its boot heel down on others will somehow become holiness on earth if only the right tyrant is put in charge. Personally my view of them is "a pox upon both their houses".

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-22   3:24:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Original_Intent (#51)

We generally see it the same.

World Communists with their rube-tools have murdered what, 100,000,000+ in the last two or three generations ?

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-22   13:03:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Original_Intent (#50)

Now stop that - you're going to make me have to pretend to be modest. ;-)

Haaahahaha!

I understood the pre-edited post too. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-22   13:04:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Rotara (#52) (Edited)

We generally see it the same.

World Communists with their rube-tools have murdered what, 100,000,000+ in the last two or three generations ?

Between Lenin, Stalin, and Mao somewhere approaching 120,000,000 or more.

But they were "the people's paradise" - models of democracy, and they had "Universal Healthcare" - just ask Weasel.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-23   2:24:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Rotara (#53)

Now stop that - you're going to make me have to pretend to be modest. ;-)

Haaahahaha!

I understood the pre-edited post too. ;-)

But the edited version is not quite as egomaniacal. I have to watch my image. Hee, hee, hee.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-23   2:28:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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