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Title: Massive Chemtrail Attack in Santa Monica, CA: Hapless Public Responds
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wr5d2xBBtU
Published: Dec 15, 2008
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Post Date: 2008-12-15 06:30:41 by Artisan
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Keywords: chemtrails
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I suggest you click the 'watch in high quality' tab to watch this vid. Santa Monica, CA 12/14/08. Numerous planes were spraying the skies in southern California; the weather soon became gloomy and overcast. I asked locals if they knew what all the strange lines in the sky were and why the planes were spraying. I encountered several foreigners who said the same thing happens in their countries, and met one recent police academy grad who stated that he would do anything, including confiscating people's firearms, if it meant keeping his job. Part 2 to follow.

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#1. To: christine, Itisa1mosttoolate, lodwick, PSUSA, original_intent, james deffenbach, twentytwelve, farmfriend, buckeye, wudidiz, rotara, cynicom, *Alex Jones* (#0)

very comical 2 part vid filmed 12/14/08 in Los Angeles.

CHEMTRAIL ATTACK at Santa Monica: Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=O27PnTOf2Go

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-12-15   15:55:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Artisan (#1)

We got nailed here three days ago - the worst I've ever seen.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2008-12-15   16:08:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Artisan (#0)

well, that was quite illuminating. loved your man on the street interviewing. not one of the people you asked even noticed the planes and the trails. i wonder if your making them aware will cause them to find out more. i liked the way you pointed out that the jets coming from LAX had no contrails.

the conversation with the police acad grad was interesting. i think it was pretty obvious that he believes the government's 911 story. he said that he wished he had been on one of those planes because he thinks he may have been able to do something? uh...naivety on display.

christine  posted on  2008-12-15   16:16:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: SKYDRIFTER, honway, IndieTx, pilots (#0)

what do you guys think?

christine  posted on  2008-12-15   16:23:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: christine (#3)

on the one hand if you ask someone a leading question, if they can trust papa govt, they say hell no. But in practice they actually do trust them wholeheartedly.

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-12-15   16:24:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Artisan, all (#0)

met one recent police academy grad who stated that he would do anything, including confiscating people's firearms, if it meant keeping his job.

So would the military. So don't anyone kid themselves with "hope." It's gone.

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IndieTX  posted on  2008-12-15   16:26:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: christine, all (#4)

what do you guys think?

This isn't what I think; it's what I KNOW.

Contrails are a function of temperature and humidity. They can vary with the preceding conditions at certain altitudes and even vary due to crossing patterns of air with different temp/hum characteristics at the the same altitude causing the famous "on off" dashed line. Ever swum in a river and as you walked on the bottom moved in and out of noticeably different water temperatures?

I once posted an interactive model here that actually allowed one to make their own contrails by changing temp/humidity factors and altitude with a miniature airplane. The software would draw the contrail.

It is a lie that contrails "always disappear quickly" as spewed by the chemtrail theorist's websites.

YES there is weather modification. YES they are spraying crap in order to test contrail hiding concepts for military stealth applications (such as hiding the contrail from a stealth fighter). YES we are probably being sprayed with crap and being used as subjects in tests.. BUT.... YES REAL CONTRAILS can eventually form peristent cirrus cloud decks! YES the "chemtrail" websites are being disingenuous when they show you pics of contrails and make claims they know are not true. Every photo I have seen is a naturally occurring phenomenon of a normal contrail, depending on conditions.

NO they aren't doing it with commercial jets, and doubtfully are doing it where it is visible.

So...things are being sprayed..BUT...the photos of contrails are NOT images of those things that are being sprayed. They are commercial jets. There isn't one argument I can not debunk, including "There are no airports here but they crisscross the sky!" (So do commercial jet routes between VORTACS)

So that is my take. Vast armadas of military jets are not "criss-crossing the skies" over the country spraying us with stuff. Those are passenger jets.

Weather mod and contrail hiding chemicals will be sprayed at higher altitudes. Biochem agents sprayed on us would be at low altitude from a formation of C-130s or helicopters..and I have little doubt that is occurring..behavior modification..illness, etc...but what you're seeing in the vid and pics on sites are normal contrails.

I'm one of the biggest conspiracy believers here, but this one doesn't fly as described.

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IndieTX  posted on  2008-12-15   16:47:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Artisan (#0)


"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all

wudidiz  posted on  2008-12-15   16:49:09 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Artisan (#0)

probably the biggest flag to go up is seeing two planes in the same area, same altitude, and one is spraying this huge plume of whatever, and the other has a trim, tight trail that disappears after a few lengths of the aircraft.

the other is that these big sprayers move far, far faster than other aircraft, going from horizon to horizon in a very short time.

if a people will not prosecute officials who subvert and violate the constitution, then the constitution has no authority over officials.

Gengis Gandhi, Troubled Genius

gengis gandhi  posted on  2008-12-15   17:00:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: gengis gandhi (#9)

probably the biggest flag to go up is seeing two planes in the same area, same altitude, and one is spraying this huge plume of whatever, and the other has a trim, tight trail that disappears after a few lengths of the aircraft.

the other is that these big sprayers move far, far faster than other aircraft, going from horizon to horizon in a very short time.

very good points. part 2 also has two planes, one regular one from lax. and another nearby spraying chemtrails.

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-12-15   17:03:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Artisan (#1)

Most Americans have become totally dumbed down.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-12-15   17:09:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Artisan (#1)

I do believe that they do modify the weather simply by the whiteouts that occur. I've seen it spread from horizon to horizon before.

It's possible that they are also doing this for weather mod using chemicals. I dont agree that it's a bio warfare attack though. I don't buy the red blood cells, bacteria, etc. and other crap people claim to have found inside them.

I tried pointing them out to a co-worker, and he called them "mares tails". THey arent even close to being mares tails. It's as if he really couldn't see them, even after I showed them. Every time I felt like aggravating him, I'd point them out just to get under his skin.

BTW, I am having problems with the video. I am sure its on my end, though, I just couldnt watch it.

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PSUSA  posted on  2008-12-15   17:10:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: christine (#3)

the conversation with the police acad grad was interesting. i think it was pretty obvious that he believes the government's 911 story. he said that he wished he had been on one of those planes because he thinks he may have been able to do something? uh...naivety on display.

I'd be willing to bet that he is a Rush PsyOps listener (or other Schlock Radio such as Michael Whiner, Sean Vannity, or Kneel BOORtz), a Freeptard, or both. Even worse - he posts at LGF.

At this point it is not naivety it is stupidity and ignorance.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-15   17:22:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: All, christine, Itisa1mosttoolate, lodwick, PSUSA, original_intent, james deffenbach, twentytwelve, farmfriend, buckeye, wudidiz, rotara, cynicom, jethro tull (#1)

Just saw they posted it on prisonplanet.com ;-)

www.prisonplanet.com/mass...tack-public-responds.html

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-12-15   17:24:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: gengis gandhi, Artisan (#9)

"probably the biggest flag to go up is seeing two planes in the same area, same altitude, and one is spraying this huge plume of whatever, and the other has a trim, tight trail that disappears after a few lengths of the aircraft."

I've seen that more than once.

the other is that these big sprayers move far, far faster than other aircraft, going from horizon to horizon in a very short time.

I hadn't noticed that so I will watch for it.

The other thing I've noticed is that we consistently get hit heaviest at certain times of the year - early Spring sticks out, but I have seen heavy displays at other times.

The other characteristic is parallel trails running from horizon to horizon and not just along the major flight paths for commercial traffic.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-15   17:26:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: PSUSA (#12)

not sure what the problem with the vid could be. it's playing ok for me. interesting to note, as you said, last night a big storm came into town, it poured all night here and is still raining. it was bright and sunny yesterday early in the morning, i was at the beach., beautiful day. coincidence?

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-12-15   17:27:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: IndieTX (#7)

So...things are being sprayed..BUT...the photos of contrails are NOT images of those things that are being sprayed. They are commercial jets. There isn't one argument I can not debunk, including "There are no airports here but they crisscross the sky!" (So do commercial jet routes between VORTACS)

I've seen 3 or 4 jets come in over the horizon flying in staggered formation leaving either a standard contrail or no trail at all. Then at certain points they started spraying their trails, flying parallel to each other. I watched them as they banked, turned off their sprayers, then when flying either parallel or perpendicular to their original flight path, started spraying again.

I've watched them do this more than once. So perhaps not ALL of what's up there in the form of persistant "contrails" are actual "chemtrails", but I DO know that at least SOME of them are.

In addition to what I've already said, I've observed aircraft that WERE just leaving regular contrails only to be followed shortly thereafter by jets that left the well known CHEMTRAILS that persisted, expanded, and turned the skies greyish.

If you view the sky with polarized sunglasses in areas that have been sprayed, you'll notice the clouds have a greenish-reddish tint to their edges. Normal clouds do not display such phenomenon.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-12-15   17:54:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: FormerLurker (#17)

in staggered formation ......flying parallel to each other

That would definitely not be commercial jetliners.

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IndieTX  posted on  2008-12-15   18:08:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: IndieTX, all (#18)

I think they are deliberate, but here goes anyway.

Disclaimer: This website is the official chemtrail alert system. The very first one backed by a meteorologist that knows what they are. Can they harm you? Yes. Is it deliberate? NO.

www.owsweather.com/contrail report.html

"Wherever a Knave is not punished, an honest Man is laugh'd at." -- George Savile (1633-1695)
"Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth." -- Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2008-12-15   18:15:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: IndieTX (#7)

thank you. i appreciate your comprehensive answer.

christine  posted on  2008-12-15   18:15:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Artisan (#14)

When I have trouble trying to get people to believe what I'm saying I always tell them they always do it before 'rain' so the rain will carry it down to the population.

When they hear that they always think about it raining in a day or two. I have convinced just about everyone that it is not just 'con-trails'.

real-debt-elimination

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-12-15   18:18:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Artisan (#14)

Neat vid of sooooopidy on display. Congrads on AJ picking it up. Well done!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-12-15   18:22:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: IndieTX (#18)

That would definitely not be commercial jetliners.

I know.

Here's a few photos that might interest you...

Here's something from YouTube;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcn9tNAp2Ow

You'll see 4 jets in formation, where at first they are just leaving standard contrails, then they appear to leave chemtrails towards the end of the video.

The ones I saw however were much more obvious, where one second they were leaving standard contrails, then all of a sudden they'd leave a MUCH thicker persistent trail, STOP leaving the thicker trail, change course, then start leaving the thicker trail again.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-12-15   18:43:10 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: IndieTX (#7)

Those long trails that stay up there and spread across the sky to form a haze are not contrails. They are not condensation from engine exhaust, but aerosol spraying.


"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all

wudidiz  posted on  2008-12-15   18:43:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Jethro Tull, ALL (#22)

libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=84411

real-debt-elimination

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-12-15   18:44:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#21)

very good point and as im sure you can guess its been pouring for at least 15 hours here in so. cal. huge storm hit late last night.

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-12-15   18:46:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: wudidiz, formerlurker, indietx (#24)

Those long trails that stay up there and spread across the sky to form a haze are not contrails. They are not condensation from engine exhaust, but aerosol spraying

man i have to agree, who could doubt it? these trails stay in the air a long time and dissipate then it gets all gloomy, and then rains. its raining now, pouring since late last night. the tic tac toe grids we've all seen are the most blatant and absurd display.

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-12-15   18:49:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Jethro Tull (#22)

thanks. i didnt even plan on doing it, i was actually on my way somewhere else, but the spraying was so eggregious i had to break out the videocam, which i always carry with me now. its also cool that im saying 'what a bunch of bullshit, man!' on prisonplanet.com. LOL!

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-12-15   18:51:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: wudidiz, ALL (#24) (Edited)

Those long trails that stay up there and spread across the sky to form a haze [cirrostratus clouds] are not contrails

You are Incorrect

More. Feel free to check multiple sources to rule out bias. Link

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IndieTX  posted on  2008-12-15   18:54:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Artisan (#27)

man i have to agree, who could doubt it? these trails stay in the air a long time and dissipate then it gets all gloomy, and then rains. its raining now, pouring since late last night. the tic tac toe grids we've all seen are the most blatant and absurd display.

But rain cant be the only thing. I've seen total whiteouts in the desert between Needles and Barstow, and there ain't much between those towns except for a lot of sand and rock. Same with other whiteouts in more populated areas that didnt get rain, just a dreary gray-white sky.

My guess is, and it's only a guess, is there are different types of chemicals used. Some like silver iodide generate rain, others spread out and reflect sunlight away from the ground. It's all climate control, but for different purposes.

Or, we could all build come "cloudbusters" and just wipe them out of the sky... /sarcasm/

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PSUSA  posted on  2008-12-15   18:59:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: IndieTX (#29)

If i understand correctly you dont doubt that govt would spray poison upon its population or that they have a eugenics agenda, that vaccines poison everyone, along with food, water, medicines, curriculum, tv, movies, music, etc. right?

the following comment is from prisonplanet:

----------- rodger leith Says:

December 15th, 2008 at 3:06 pm contrails last a couple of seconds.Chemtrails last for hours. End of story. I live in central Florida and they spray us almost every day. They love to make x paterns across the sky showing they serve satan. These pilots must be under mind control --------------------

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-12-15   19:00:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Artisan (#31)

chemtrails spread out, in a smearing type fashion, are dull gray, and can actually be seen to fall once they are laid.

if a people will not prosecute officials who subvert and violate the constitution, then the constitution has no authority over officials.

Gengis Gandhi, Troubled Genius

gengis gandhi  posted on  2008-12-15   19:03:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Artisan (#31)

December 15th, 2008 at 3:06 pm contrails last a couple of seconds.Chemtrails last for hours

This is an outright LIE, as the most cursory scientific research will tell you.

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IndieTX  posted on  2008-12-15   19:03:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Artisan (#31)

i have myself watched these planes turn on the spraying, where before there was none.

if a people will not prosecute officials who subvert and violate the constitution, then the constitution has no authority over officials.

Gengis Gandhi, Troubled Genius

gengis gandhi  posted on  2008-12-15   19:05:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: gengis gandhi (#34) (Edited)

i have myself watched these planes turn on the spraying, where before there was none.

I have already explained why and how this can occur. You have not done your reading. Do you really want to remain ignorant? You'll see a contrail stop as well and even make dashed lines. There ain't nobody turning on and off "the sprayer."

I refuse to argue with people who refuse to read the facts and spew only speculation and opinion on na scientific phenomenon.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition


"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx

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RUN SILENT, RUN DEEP

IndieTX  posted on  2008-12-15   19:08:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: PSUSA, twentytwelve, original_intent, wudidiz, indietx, formerlurker, christine, jethro tull, rotara (#30)

My guess is, and it's only a guess, is there are different types of chemicals used. Some like silver iodide generate rain, others spread out and reflect sunlight away from the ground. It's all climate control, but for different purposes.

I'm afraid you lose the general poulation when one gets into the technical aspects of this, similarly to those old 1000+ post threads about the minutia of physics of the buildings on 911 with the critics vs debunkers, ad nausium.

the devil worshiping f-ks blew up the towers, they spray poison on us, and everything in between. all you have to do is point out these bullshit chemtrail grids, whatever they are. regular planes do not leave sh-t like that, i dont care what anyone says.

to the average person, they will agree, when this is pointed out to them. people know this is not normal. anything that gets them to open their eyes and realize something sinister is going on. on many levels.

For example. if one starts pontificating about the minutia of the heat of jet fuel and speed / force of collapse , etc. YOU LOSE all the people we're trying to reach. Maybe some will think i have a dumbed down approach, and perhaps i do. but buildings dont fall fown in 10 seconds, and the natural sky doesnt have a bunch of m-&^% f-*king tic tac tow purple grids on it sprayed by covert unmarked jet planes!! f-k these devil worhiping fucks! excuse my language.

case closed!! ;-)

we have to get people to distrust the government, because theyre all a bunch of murdering satan worshping FAGS. The fact that the general american population loves pervert fags and occultic witches, etc. is not only a sign of the great derangement and moral bankrupcy, it's another of the obstacles we face along the way.

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-12-15   19:12:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: IndieTX (#35) (Edited)

guess i will have to trust my lying eyes.

not to mention the chemical assays of these things, done by cliff carnicom and others.

if a people will not prosecute officials who subvert and violate the constitution, then the constitution has no authority over officials.

Gengis Gandhi, Troubled Genius

gengis gandhi  posted on  2008-12-15   19:14:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: gengis gandhi (#37)

guess i will have to trust my lying eyes.

not to mention the chemical assays of these things, done by cliff carnicom and others.

Yep they're real, I know it to be true. And yes there are different cocktails sprayed. The purpose of the spraying has more than one reason, and one of them is to block sunlight, another is to mask what's going on above, another is the change wind patterns, all of this affect crops, birds, bees, trees and us.

Yes there are climate cycles, and no, there isn't one simple answer for all of it.

But I know what my eyes see, what I am living with now because of it, and I've done enough research to finally move past denial.

"Wherever a Knave is not punished, an honest Man is laugh'd at." -- George Savile (1633-1695)
"Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth." -- Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2008-12-15   19:23:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Artisan (#36)

see also

www.carnicom.com

www.bariumblues.com

also, while watching these things I too have observed some weird type orb 'craft' approach the sprayer head on, move over in and directly into the trail itself.

others mention these orbs as well.

if a people will not prosecute officials who subvert and violate the constitution, then the constitution has no authority over officials.

Gengis Gandhi, Troubled Genius

gengis gandhi  posted on  2008-12-15   19:23:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: OliviaFNewton (#38)

check the cdc for increases in upper respiratory illness...and this with declining cigarette smokers.

if a people will not prosecute officials who subvert and violate the constitution, then the constitution has no authority over officials.

Gengis Gandhi, Troubled Genius

gengis gandhi  posted on  2008-12-15   19:24:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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