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Title: OBAMA FAILS TO SALUTE THE U.S. FLAG, WON'T WEAR THE AMERICAN PIN, WEARS ISRAEL'S, REMOVES AMERICAN FLAG FROM HIS PLANE & DRESSES UP IN MUSLIM GARB
Source: supportbordercontrols.blogspot.com
URL Source: http://supportbordercontrols.blogsp ... e-us-flag-wont-wear.html#links
Published: Nov 10, 2008
Author: clifylq
Post Date: 2008-12-18 18:16:44 by Itisa1mosttoolate
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Views: 6186
Comments: 246

OBAMA FAILS TO SALUTE THE U.S. FLAG, WON'T WEAR THE AMERICAN PIN, WEARS ISRAEL'S, REMOVES AMERICAN FLAG FROM HIS PLANE & DRESSES UP IN MUSLIM GARB

I WOULD SAY THAT THIS NEW BASTARD YOU ELECTED TO OFFICE TO REPLACE BUSH IS ANTI AMERICAN WOULDN'T YOU? OR DON'T YOU EVEN CARE?

Barack Obama recently finished a $500,000 total overhaul of his 757. And as part of the new design, he decided to remove the American flag from the tail. What American running for President of the United States would remove the symbol of his country? And worse, he replaced the flag with a symbol of himself.This is not the same as “forgetting” to put your hand over your heart during the national anthem. It is not even the same as wearing or not wearing an American flag lapel pin. It is a conscious, expensive decision to emphasize the importance of self over country. It is the very essence of arrogance, hubris, and, yes, megalomania.

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#124. To: Rotara (#121)

That wasn't you posting recently as our overseas kraut-friend, was it?? :-O

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-12-19   18:32:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: X-15 (#123)

IIRC, Robin left of her own accord.

Yes, after she used the PM feature here to collude against the forum and form her own place.

Stand up gal that one.

Only after she corralled or was coralled by other users to try and destroy the place.

I have a word for that.

But, you know.

"Wherever a Knave is not punished, an honest Man is laugh'd at." -- George Savile (1633-1695)
"Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth." -- Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2008-12-19   18:34:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: James Deffenbach (#122)

That was some good stuff.

Haaaaahahahaha! I'm still laughing thinking about it.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-19   18:42:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: X-15 (#124)

Ich kenne nichts!

I know nothing!

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-19   18:43:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: X-15 (#123)

IIRC, Robin left of her own accord.

..started the People's Soviet Forum for Obamalamadingdongs to have a more pleasant Kool-Aid guzzling Omessiah experience.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-19   18:44:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: OliviaFNewton (#125)

you know

Very impressive !

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-19   18:45:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#108)

Hey Vast,

I notice you didn't have the guts to bring your issue with me, to me.. so, I felt sorry for you...

Wanted to help you out..

Here you go!

Seems to be the hot topic. A smoking 12 posts.

Bristol Palin's Future Mother-In-Law Arrested On Drug Charges

the-peoples-forum.com/cgi...i? ArtNum=7750&Disp=12#C12

Heavy serious discussion. I'm sure you will need a towel to tamp off the sweat.

"Wherever a Knave is not punished, an honest Man is laugh'd at." -- George Savile (1633-1695)
"Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth." -- Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2008-12-19   19:04:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: Rotara (#129)

Very impressive !

Well, you know.

"Wherever a Knave is not punished, an honest Man is laugh'd at." -- George Savile (1633-1695)
"Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth." -- Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2008-12-19   19:05:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: OliviaFNewton (#131)

-chortle-

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-19   19:06:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: Rotara (#127)

Damn you, I went to some trouble to translate back 'n forth. For NOTHING!!!

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-12-19   19:18:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: X-15 (#133)

Ich kenne nichts !!!

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-19   19:26:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: Rotara (#134)

Drosselklappe auf einer Brezel!!

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-12-19   19:29:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: X-15 (#135)

Drosselklappe auf einer Brezel!! / Throttle flap on a pretzel!!

Nein! Nein! Nein! Nein! NEIN !!

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-19   19:31:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Rotara (#136)

This blonde is the ONLY thing I want from Germany:

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-12-19   19:39:18 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#108)

some of those you label and judge as drooling idiots by their posts on here only, i know on a personal level. several i have met in person and communicate with by phone, instant message, and email. yes, i consider them on my side because we agree on what and who is our common enemy. that would be the anti-american traitorous, corrupt, globalist elite politicians who run this government. before obama came along, i was under the impression that nearly all who posted here shared that opinion.

you accused me of forcing Robin out. that's not true. it's a mischaracterization of what happened. i've explained this several times already, but i will again. Robin had been growing increasingly unhappy here because she didn't like the challenges and criticisms she was receiving for her support of obama. as you know, she began bozo'ing a number of 4um members, but what you don't know (probably) is that Robin was at the same time a moderator. she never communicated to me the degree of her discomfort here. in fact, unbeknownst to me, she had been planning a forum of her own. i didn't learn about it until it was opened and was told by members who had received invitations via 4um's private mail. if you go back and read the thread, you will see that i tried very hard to come up with a solution that i had hoped would satisfy everyone, but by then it was too late. it was never my intent to force Robin or anyone else from 4um.

christine  posted on  2008-12-19   19:54:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: christine (#138)

They didn't want a solution Chris. That was obvious. They wanted you to bring the hammer down on people they disagreed with, and stop the free flow of conversation, information and debate.

They are COMMIES. We know this. We saw it and they left because they couldn't control the place.

Now, that bitch has her own place and sends her monkey's out to whine and pick.

Vast might be a freelance prick for all we know. He and angle bring up the same thing over and over.. Poor Damn Robin.

Well, for Gods sake, GO TO HER. GTFO.

"Wherever a Knave is not punished, an honest Man is laugh'd at." -- George Savile (1633-1695)
"Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth." -- Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2008-12-19   20:11:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: OliviaFNewton (#139)

They didn't want a solution

Half of THEY were wacky Jack and his sock puppets, you know the ones he trotted out to chase off anyone he suspected of being insufficiently left of center.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-12-19   20:31:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: Jethro Tull (#140)

Half of THEY were wacky Jack and his sock puppets, you know the ones he trotted out to chase off anyone he suspected of being insufficiency left of center.

That one had a single membered/minded problem.

"Wherever a Knave is not punished, an honest Man is laugh'd at." -- George Savile (1633-1695)
"Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth." -- Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2008-12-19   20:35:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, christine (#108)

Than, you forced Robin out and you sided with JT and his gang of losers. No wonder thoughtful individuals such as Aristo and Pingu left in disgust.

You've got to share with me all those wonderful shrooms you've been hoarding. I've got a feather thing some old indian woman gave me.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-12-19   20:41:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: OliviaFNewton (#141) (Edited)

I met her in a club
down in old Soho
where you drink champagne
and it tastes just
like cherry cola
C-O-L-A cola

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-12-19   20:42:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: James Deffenbach (#93)

I've been on this 4UM for 4 years I think. In that 4 years many people have come and gone for whatever reason. However, I've never witnessed Christine be rude, intolerant of others views or pushy of her own. If ever there were a benevolent dictator, Christine is it. My response to Christines accuser was out of anger. I just think it's a little much for a freeloading imbecile to throw unfounded accusations at the person responsible for the bill. (No pun intended).

Obama supporters are starting to really disgust me because they still think the guy is more than the lesser of two evils, even after having had the opportunity to review his cabinet and department appointments. Obama held a news conference today and introduced several of his new staff. One of these was a Mexican lady that he appointed as Secretary of Labor. After she finished her drooling over Obama socialist introduction, she repeated it in Spanish. I didn't care who Obama appoints to the Labor Department. I don't care who he appoints to any position in his administration ... but I shut the radio off when this woman started speaking Spanish. I was offended and think that was the intent of her Spanish lesson. You can bet your ass her speech was approved by her handlers or the higher ups which indicates that Obama approved.

This may seem trivial to some folks but I'm sick of the invasion and takeover through perpetual appeasement that's being assisted by folks sworn to protect the borders. If someone comes here legally and learns to speak English, which is allegedly a prerequisite, then they shouldn't need to be spoken to in a foreign language. This sort of behavior is killing America and turning it into Mexico Norte.

I don't want to hear spanish everytime a speech is given by someone in this administration. Truthfully, I found myself hating even Obama's little speech.

They call it the AMERIKAN DREAM because you have to be asleep (and you are) to believe it !

noone222  posted on  2008-12-19   20:50:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: noone222 (#144)

Obama supporters are starting to really disgust me because they still think the guy is more than the lesser of two evils, even after having had the opportunity to review his cabinet and department appointments.

He's not gonna buy me that Mister Softee truck I've been pining for? Damn you, noone222, damn your cold, cold dream-dashing heart!

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-12-19   20:54:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: X-15 (#137)

chug a jug

Dear dear dear have mercy !

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-19   20:55:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: Christine (#138)

some of those you label and judge as drooling idiots by their posts on here only, i know on a personal level. several i have met in person and communicate with by phone, instant message, and email. yes, i consider them on my side because we agree on what and who is our common enemy. that would be the anti-american traitorous, corrupt, globalist elite politicians who run this government. before obama came along, i was under the impression that nearly all who posted here shared that opinion.

I'll try to drool less and take far fewer idiot pills if it will help. ;-)

No promises about the Traitors though.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-19   20:57:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: OliviaFNewton (#139)

They didn't want a solution Chris. That was obvious. They wanted you to bring the hammer down on people they disagreed with, and stop the free flow of conversation, information and debate.

They are COMMIES. We know this. We saw it and they left because they couldn't control the place.

Now, that bitch has her own place and sends her monkey's out to whine and pick.

Vast might be a freelance prick for all we know. He and angle bring up the same thing over and over.. Poor Damn Robin.

Well, for Gods sake, GO TO HER. GTFO.

Hear hear !

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-19   20:59:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: noone222 (#144)

thank you, Doug, for both of your posts on this thread.

christine  posted on  2008-12-19   21:05:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: Rotara (#147)

I'll try to drool less and take far fewer idiot pills if it will help.

what makes ya think it was you he was talking about? ;P

christine  posted on  2008-12-19   21:07:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: christine (#150)

what makes ya think it was you he was talking about? ;P

Because I drool to fool the Commies and take idiot pills to fool my wife ?

lol

~:^/

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-19   21:13:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: Christine, noone222 (#149)

thank you, Doug, for both of your posts on this thread.

Doug's a Champ.

There are several at 4um.

But he's certainly one of them.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-19   21:13:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#28)

So, no sucker punches, just expressing some views. And, in my view, this forum looks more and more like the online version of the Jerry Springer show where the guests are running it.

The quoted comment starts off with a lie, as it is a weak sister attempt at a sucker punch.

No one here has indicated that they could give a good shit about your views, which it should be noted are awfully close to those of socialist people exploiter Jerry Springer.

Why don't you simply change channels or go to the asshole lounge where your socialist views might be appreciated

They call it the AMERIKAN DREAM because you have to be asleep (and you are) to believe it !

noone222  posted on  2008-12-19   21:15:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: Dakmar (#142)

I've got a feather thing some old indian woman gave me.

A feather thing? LOL


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-12-19   21:24:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: christine (#149)

You're deservedly welcome.

They call it the AMERIKAN DREAM because you have to be asleep (and you are) to believe it !

noone222  posted on  2008-12-19   21:27:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: FormerLurker, Dakmar (#154)

A feather thing? LOL

'shroom catcher. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-19   21:28:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: Jethro Tull (#143)

:)

"Wherever a Knave is not punished, an honest Man is laugh'd at." -- George Savile (1633-1695)
"Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth." -- Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2008-12-19   21:29:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: X-15 (#123)

Robin is a coward.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-12-19   21:31:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: Rotara (#152)

It's a mutual appreciation society around here. Most of us on here don't agree with each other about everything. Most of the time though the differing views are thought out well.

This Obama mania is cult like. It is going to cause unnecessary divisions among people that need to unite.

Thanks for the nice comments.

They call it the AMERIKAN DREAM because you have to be asleep (and you are) to believe it !

noone222  posted on  2008-12-19   21:31:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#28)

...this forum looks more and more like the online version of the Jerry Springer show where the guests are running it.

#108: I believe that you have a good heart.

Well, which is it you ungrateful, wretched, puddle of Obama-vomit??

I know you've got me on bozo, but maybe somebody else will quote this so you can see it. It took me a while to get a bit angry at you, which I know will make you happy.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-12-19   21:31:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: Rotara (#148)

Hear hear !

Everyone knows it's true. Everyone.

"Wherever a Knave is not punished, an honest Man is laugh'd at." -- George Savile (1633-1695)
"Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth." -- Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2008-12-19   21:34:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: X-15 (#137)

This blonde is the ONLY thing I want from Germany:

It is ten degrees out, with plenty of snow and blowing wind. I never thought I would be any warmer again, but that certainly helped. Bless you! (That's fine beer, as well...)

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-12-19   21:38:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, christine, Jethro Tull (#6)

I am so sorry to see Christine's site turning into a laughing stock.

I have no problem with her tolerating all these cretinazis because I approve of tolerance and subjecting the lesser specimens to therapy via participation. The problem is not them being tolerated but it's them being encouraged and prodded into a frenzy of absurdities. It seems to me that Jethro Tull is allowed to help these freakish idiots destroy and discredit what used to be one of the better discussion forums South of the North Pole.

There is nothing much to laugh about vast, it's just people exchanging ideas and offering different viewpoints. It's called freedom of expression and freedom of speech.

That christine allows open debate here and doesn't choose sides is a miracle as most sites are biased and would ban anyone who stirs the pot a bit too much in regards to any topic that site deems sacred. You should respect that and not be so eager to give her an underhanded slap across the face while posting on her site that she provides free of charge out of her own goodwill.

To many, you are as much of a "lesser specimen" and/or "cretinazi" as you view others here. Nobody is being prodded and encouraged to do anything; we are all here to speak our minds and perhaps try to change the minds of others.

As far as your mention of Jethro, if you have something to say to him then you should say it to him directly rather than bumping your remarks about him off of me.

From what I've read so far on this thread, I take it your remark concerning Jethro has something to do with his positions on Obama. I haven't been involved in the Obama debates because I can't find anything worth discussing about him. He's just another globalist controlled puppet who will do the bidding of his masters; his recent Cabinet appointments bears that out in spades (excuse the pun).

If you find Obama to be a better man than that, well that's your opinion and your right, but don't look down upon others who don't share your views, in fact, you should perhaps heed their advice and wake up from your slumber.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-12-19   21:40:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: Rotara, Dakmar (#156)

'shroom catcher. ;-)

Hmmm. I guess I never hung out with a wild enough crowd to have experienced that. I've heard of dream catchers but never 'shroom catchers...

Do they work? :)


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-12-19   21:42:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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