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Title: OBAMA FAILS TO SALUTE THE U.S. FLAG, WON'T WEAR THE AMERICAN PIN, WEARS ISRAEL'S, REMOVES AMERICAN FLAG FROM HIS PLANE & DRESSES UP IN MUSLIM GARB
Source: supportbordercontrols.blogspot.com
URL Source: http://supportbordercontrols.blogsp ... e-us-flag-wont-wear.html#links
Published: Nov 10, 2008
Author: clifylq
Post Date: 2008-12-18 18:16:44 by Itisa1mosttoolate
Keywords: None
Views: 3113
Comments: 246

OBAMA FAILS TO SALUTE THE U.S. FLAG, WON'T WEAR THE AMERICAN PIN, WEARS ISRAEL'S, REMOVES AMERICAN FLAG FROM HIS PLANE & DRESSES UP IN MUSLIM GARB

I WOULD SAY THAT THIS NEW BASTARD YOU ELECTED TO OFFICE TO REPLACE BUSH IS ANTI AMERICAN WOULDN'T YOU? OR DON'T YOU EVEN CARE?

Barack Obama recently finished a $500,000 total overhaul of his 757. And as part of the new design, he decided to remove the American flag from the tail. What American running for President of the United States would remove the symbol of his country? And worse, he replaced the flag with a symbol of himself.This is not the same as “forgetting” to put your hand over your heart during the national anthem. It is not even the same as wearing or not wearing an American flag lapel pin. It is a conscious, expensive decision to emphasize the importance of self over country. It is the very essence of arrogance, hubris, and, yes, megalomania.

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#1. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

You don't actually believe any of this do you?

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-12-18   18:29:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: FormerLurker (#1)

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-12-18   18:36:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#2)

Did you know that the American flag on the tail is the logo for North American Airlines, and that it is required to be replaced with a candidate's personal emblem when that plane is chartered by a candidate?

Now here's Obama's jet. Notice the American flag is present on the fuselage.

Take a look at McCain's plane. There is NO American flag on it at all...

As far as the tear jerking story about Obama not shaking hands with the troops over in Afghanistan, it'd be a bit more believable if the person was brave enough to use their name instead of hiding behind the curtain of anonymity. Anybody can "report" whatever they want when they are anonymous.

I'm not a huge fan of Obama, but let's not feed into any false reports about him spread about for propaganda purposes. I'm sure there will be enough REAL info to report and to be concerned about.

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-12-18   19:03:36 ET  (4 images) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: FormerLurker (#3)

I am so sorry to see Christine's site turning into a laughing stock.

I have no problem with her tolerating all these cretinazis because I approve of tolerance and subjecting the lesser specimens to therapy via participation. The problem is not them being tolerated but it's them being encouraged and prodded into a frenzy of absurdities. It seems to me that Jethro Tull is allowed to help these freakish idiots destroy and discredit what used to be one of the better discussion forums South of the North Pole.

Too bad.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-12-18   22:42:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#6)

you know, you didn't bother to flag me either. i consider your post a sucker punch. further, this forum is here strictly on my dime. i've never asked you or anyone else for a cent. my purpose in creating 4um was to provide a place free of oppressive moderation and where guests have freedom and comfort of expression. if you don't appreciate my hospitality or that which i extend to anyone else here, i invite you to find another place more satisfying or, better yet, start one of your own.

christine  posted on  2008-12-19   0:15:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: christine (#13) (Edited)

Christine,

I fully understand that this site is your hobby. You might have noticed that I did state that this site used to be a good vehicle for interesting exchanges of views and ideas. I believe that all that changed when you allowed Jethro and wackos he believes are his friends - and they may be so - to encourage the replacing of discussions and debates with screams and what they believe were clever insults.

What did you gain out of it: you gained intellectually challenged members of the calibers of Peppa (come and gone), someone by the name of Olivia, come and gone, some cretin who claims to be a Germ, come and gone and Jethro using your site to project his battered cop fears of darkies and encouraging his little army of insulters to be as 'offensive' as possible.

The problem is that you are losing some of your more thoughtful members, and I am not including myself in that category. They are either completely gone or, if they are checking your site, occasionally, they are probably too disgusted or find the 'discussions' too boring or uninteresting to express their views, one way or another. That is how I feel myself, even though I could not count myself among the more thoughtful members. In the good old days, I used to post a dozen articles or more almost every day and there were some good discussions on some of them. Right now, I probably make contributions once or twice a week and I rarely post any new 'stuff' because there are very few worth posting for so why bother.

By the way, I understand and I appreciate your effort. I know that I could not find the time to do what you do and, if I did it and I started my own forum, chances are no one would bother coming. You called what I wrote 'a sucker punch'. This is in line with the current atmosphere at your site where just about all you get is sucker punches and sub-basement-level 'humor'.

My intention is not to sucker punch anyone and, if you really want to know why I wrote what I wrote on THIS thread, I will tell you. I just happened to check the latest threads at your site and I opened that thread and... I simply felt like writing something about the quality of the 'debate'. Yes, I do refer to some of the members at this site as 'cretinazis' and I probably use some other creative terms because sometimes I decide to come down to their level and see if some rudimentary exchange of ideas is possible - it's not. Calling them these fine names is probably not as low as Dr. Jethro cheerfully predicting my children's bright future or the constant torrent of idiotic insults coming from some of those I bozoed already.

You know, for a long, long time I thought that the purpose of a sites like FreeRepublic was to attract all the low-lifes there so that the rest of the Internet can be a cleaner, more enlightening experience. It's possible that, as the Internet becomes increasingly crowded, the FRs and the LPs of the world are overflowing and... they are here now.

Anyways, I really wish you success in pulling out from the swamp Jethro and his friends dragged you into. I suspect that there is a lot of goodwill amongst the more intelligent members to come back and improve the quality of debate here. Like I said, the issue is not kicking the idiots out, it's them being encouraged to put forward the worst of what they got instead of gently but firmly attempt to guide them back into a more rational interaction with the outside world.

I remember you stating at one time, in a private email, that, while you had your own views, as the chief moderator you thought inappropriate to express them in public. I thought that was a most responsible approach. Sadly, you are no longer guided by that principle. First, you allowed your first lieutenant to openly, loudly and stridently (cop-style) express his so-called views, then you began to take sides yourself on debates where the sides were not as important as the 'tools' used to 'debate' - as in one side or both sides aiming at hurting the other side's feelings or simply show off their ugliest features and call it a debate. I understand that I am in no position to give you advice but, if I may express my view, the older approach was probably the superior one and, I believe you were running a better forum then.

So, no sucker punches, just expressing some views. And, in my view, this forum looks more and more like the online version of the Jerry Springer show where the guests are running it.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-12-19   8:08:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#28)

I believe that all that changed when you allowed Jethro and wackos he believes are his friends - and they may be so - to encourage the replacing of discussions and debates with screams and what they believe were clever insults.

Show me how and where this began. And why would you suggest that christine "allowed" me to do this?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-12-19   8:26:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Jethro Tull, Christine, All (#29)

to encourage the replacing of discussions and debates with screams and what they believe were clever insults.

But they dont want discussions or debates. They want people to agree with them that black is white and up is down. When resistance is met, they bitch and moan that we unplugged are oh so stupid not to believe them.

Look at the Bright Side, obamatards. Your man takes office in 1 month. You think things will be all peachy, I say you are going to get royally reamed.

All-in bets are on the table, river card is dealt, we'll see the cards shortly.

Let's see who is right. Will it be the obamatards, or us country bumpkins.

PSUSA  posted on  2008-12-19   8:57:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: PSUSA, Rotara, tom007, all (#33)

But they dont want discussions or debates. They want people to agree with them that black is white and up is down.

Early on in the Obama campaign, it became obvious that many of our fellow Bush Bashers were Democrats. Whereas we thought, all along, that they were opposed to big, bloated, socialistic government, in truth they thought all that was needed was for a Democrat to ascend to the throne. That is the core of the differences we have; they believe in government as long as it's Democrat controlled, and most others here reject government regardless of who is president.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-12-19   9:31:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Jethro Tull, PSUSA (#34) (Edited)

But they dont want discussions or debates. They want people to agree with them that black is white and up is down.

Early on in the Obama campaign, it became obvious that many of our fellow Bush Bashers were Democrats. Whereas we thought, all along, that they were opposed to big, bloated, socialistic government, in truth they thought all that was needed was for a Democrat to ascend to the throne. That is the core of the differences we have; they believe in government as long as it's Democrat controlled, and most others here reject government regardless of who is president.

Obingo

They were 'friends' and 'patriots' when it was a republicrat brand we were all bashing.

They suckered us, but we also let them.

As PSUSA pointed out so well; I have long ago given up playing their game.

They WILL NOT walk away laughing. That I guarantee.

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-19   9:37:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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