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Title: OBAMA FAILS TO SALUTE THE U.S. FLAG, WON'T WEAR THE AMERICAN PIN, WEARS ISRAEL'S, REMOVES AMERICAN FLAG FROM HIS PLANE & DRESSES UP IN MUSLIM GARB
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Published: Nov 10, 2008
Author: clifylq
Post Date: 2008-12-18 18:16:44 by Itisa1mosttoolate
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Views: 3063
Comments: 246
OBAMA FAILS TO SALUTE THE U.S. FLAG, WON'T WEAR THE AMERICAN PIN, WEARS ISRAEL'S, REMOVES AMERICAN FLAG FROM HIS PLANE & DRESSES UP IN MUSLIM GARB I WOULD SAY THAT THIS NEW BASTARD YOU ELECTED TO OFFICE TO REPLACE BUSH IS ANTI AMERICAN WOULDN'T YOU? OR DON'T YOU EVEN CARE? Barack Obama recently finished a $500,000 total overhaul of his 757. And as part of the new design, he decided to remove the American flag from the tail. What American running for President of the United States would remove the symbol of his country? And worse, he replaced the flag with a symbol of himself.This is not the same as “forgetting” to put your hand over your heart during the national anthem. It is not even the same as wearing or not wearing an American flag lapel pin. It is a conscious, expensive decision to emphasize the importance of self over country. It is the very essence of arrogance, hubris, and, yes, megalomania. Poster Comment: Does he like "Bald Heads" too?
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#1. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
You don't actually believe any of this do you?
Did you know that the American flag on the tail is the logo for North American Airlines, and that it is required to be replaced with a candidate's personal emblem when that plane is chartered by a candidate? Now here's Obama's jet. Notice the American flag is present on the fuselage. Take a look at McCain's plane. There is NO American flag on it at all... As far as the tear jerking story about Obama not shaking hands with the troops over in Afghanistan, it'd be a bit more believable if the person was brave enough to use their name instead of hiding behind the curtain of anonymity. Anybody can "report" whatever they want when they are anonymous. I'm not a huge fan of Obama, but let's not feed into any false reports about him spread about for propaganda purposes. I'm sure there will be enough REAL info to report and to be concerned about.
I am so sorry to see Christine's site turning into a laughing stock. I have no problem with her tolerating all these cretinazis because I approve of tolerance and subjecting the lesser specimens to therapy via participation. The problem is not them being tolerated but it's them being encouraged and prodded into a frenzy of absurdities. It seems to me that Jethro Tull is allowed to help these freakish idiots destroy and discredit what used to be one of the better discussion forums South of the North Pole. Too bad.
you know, you didn't bother to flag me either. i consider your post a sucker punch. further, this forum is here strictly on my dime. i've never asked you or anyone else for a cent. my purpose in creating 4um was to provide a place free of oppressive moderation and where guests have freedom and comfort of expression. if you don't appreciate my hospitality or that which i extend to anyone else here, i invite you to find another place more satisfying or, better yet, start one of your own.
Christine, I fully understand that this site is your hobby. You might have noticed that I did state that this site used to be a good vehicle for interesting exchanges of views and ideas. I believe that all that changed when you allowed Jethro and wackos he believes are his friends - and they may be so - to encourage the replacing of discussions and debates with screams and what they believe were clever insults. What did you gain out of it: you gained intellectually challenged members of the calibers of Peppa (come and gone), someone by the name of Olivia, come and gone, some cretin who claims to be a Germ, come and gone and Jethro using your site to project his battered cop fears of darkies and encouraging his little army of insulters to be as 'offensive' as possible. The problem is that you are losing some of your more thoughtful members, and I am not including myself in that category. They are either completely gone or, if they are checking your site, occasionally, they are probably too disgusted or find the 'discussions' too boring or uninteresting to express their views, one way or another. That is how I feel myself, even though I could not count myself among the more thoughtful members. In the good old days, I used to post a dozen articles or more almost every day and there were some good discussions on some of them. Right now, I probably make contributions once or twice a week and I rarely post any new 'stuff' because there are very few worth posting for so why bother. By the way, I understand and I appreciate your effort. I know that I could not find the time to do what you do and, if I did it and I started my own forum, chances are no one would bother coming. You called what I wrote 'a sucker punch'. This is in line with the current atmosphere at your site where just about all you get is sucker punches and sub-basement-level 'humor'. My intention is not to sucker punch anyone and, if you really want to know why I wrote what I wrote on THIS thread, I will tell you. I just happened to check the latest threads at your site and I opened that thread and... I simply felt like writing something about the quality of the 'debate'. Yes, I do refer to some of the members at this site as 'cretinazis' and I probably use some other creative terms because sometimes I decide to come down to their level and see if some rudimentary exchange of ideas is possible - it's not. Calling them these fine names is probably not as low as Dr. Jethro cheerfully predicting my children's bright future or the constant torrent of idiotic insults coming from some of those I bozoed already. You know, for a long, long time I thought that the purpose of a sites like FreeRepublic was to attract all the low-lifes there so that the rest of the Internet can be a cleaner, more enlightening experience. It's possible that, as the Internet becomes increasingly crowded, the FRs and the LPs of the world are overflowing and... they are here now. Anyways, I really wish you success in pulling out from the swamp Jethro and his friends dragged you into. I suspect that there is a lot of goodwill amongst the more intelligent members to come back and improve the quality of debate here. Like I said, the issue is not kicking the idiots out, it's them being encouraged to put forward the worst of what they got instead of gently but firmly attempt to guide them back into a more rational interaction with the outside world. I remember you stating at one time, in a private email, that, while you had your own views, as the chief moderator you thought inappropriate to express them in public. I thought that was a most responsible approach. Sadly, you are no longer guided by that principle. First, you allowed your first lieutenant to openly, loudly and stridently (cop-style) express his so-called views, then you began to take sides yourself on debates where the sides were not as important as the 'tools' used to 'debate' - as in one side or both sides aiming at hurting the other side's feelings or simply show off their ugliest features and call it a debate. I understand that I am in no position to give you advice but, if I may express my view, the older approach was probably the superior one and, I believe you were running a better forum then. So, no sucker punches, just expressing some views. And, in my view, this forum looks more and more like the online version of the Jerry Springer show where the guests are running it.
ah..but yes i am. only you took it the wrong way. it's the views and opinions of you partisans that i tolerate and with whom i hold my tongue. your bias is showing, vast. i notice that it's only you and your fellow obamaphiles complaining about who and what is posted on this forum. as for your complaints about JT or the others you mentioned, take it to them. i don't speak for them. i speak for no one but myself.
Obamaphile? Complaining? I am not complaining but I do not, with some sadness, that the quality of the debate at this forum is not improving, to say it very mildly. I suppose there is some attraction in changing a debate site into an echo chamber. The outcome is, to some lesser extent because the physical proximity is absent, what you get when the loud-mouths take over the microphones and whip the mobs into some mindless frenzy. It makes for great entertainment and that is one of the reasons I still visit this site from time to time but you can't call what's happening here 'debate' or 'discussion' and claim that you are serious. As for me, 'taking up' anything with JT or his lesser screamers... are you kidding? I am having much more meaningful exchanges of ideas with my dogs.
it's obvious that you're not interested in debate, vast. there are plenty of quality articles on a variety of topics offered here on a daily basis, but you're not interested. your interest is worship of your obamamessiah and you find fault and criticize as lesser anyone who's not in line with that. i think at this point you have an agenda to damage this 4um and that your desire is to cause further dissention. you are not a person who respects individualism. your values as an american do not match mine or the purpose of Freedom4um. it's time to exercise my right to freedom of association or not. i no longer welcome you here.
Does that mean Vast is banned? I don't care for vasts views. But contrasting views are good. Either way your ok in my book.
contrasting views are one thing, but the constant arrogant expression of derision towards me, this forum and its members is quite another.
I think we all know what the score is. I know I do. You've yet to do anything worthy of derision. I don't think you have it in you. Besides, if they deride you and other members I cant figure out why they are even here. Is this the only board on the net??? Why associate with us ignorant rubes. Why not display their superhuman intelligence and oh-so-openmindedness on some other board instead of bitching when they arent able to convince too many people that their POV is the only correct one? It seems Itisa1mosttoolate got fooled on this article. It happens to everyone sooner or later.
Because they get everyone worked up and pissed off and then run back to Robin's forum and laugh amongst themselves. That's why I quit arguing with them. Why give them that pleasure? They are Obamatards and are exactly like the Bushbots and Klintoonoids before them. They will embrace and defend any and everything Obama does.
Which is a great argument to ban disruptors. Maybe a 6 month time-out and a public apology to Christine. Lepers.
#89. To: OliviaFNewton (#82)
It's her site. I don't care one way or the other. Once I realized they were Democrat versions of Bushbots, I quit arguing with them. Like their Bushbot brethren, they are irrational cultists.
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#3. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#2)
#6. To: FormerLurker (#3)
#13. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#6)
#28. To: christine (#13)
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#35. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#28)
I remember you stating at one time, in a private email, that, while you had your own views, as the chief moderator you thought inappropriate to express them in public. I thought that was a most responsible approach. Sadly, you are no longer guided by that principle.
#42. To: christine (#35)
#55. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#42)
It makes for great entertainment and that is one of the reasons I still visit this site from time to time but you can't call what's happening here 'debate' or 'discussion' and claim that you are serious.
#58. To: christine (#55)
#66. To: Old Friend, randge, Jethro Tull, PSUSA, a vast rightwing conspirator, OliviaFNewton, Rotara, ALL (#58)
#70. To: christine, All (#66)
contrasting views are one thing, but the constant arrogant expression of derision towards me, this forum and its members is quite another.
#76. To: PSUSA (#70)
Besides, if they deride you and other members I cant figure out why they are even here. Is this the only board on the net??? Why associate with us ignorant rubes. Why not display their superhuman intelligence and oh-so-openmindedness on some other board instead of bitching when they arent able to convince too many people that their POV is the only correct one?
#82. To: Hayek Fan (#76)
Because they get everyone worked up and pissed off and then run back to Robin's forum and laugh amongst themselves. That's why I quit arguing with them. Why give them that pleasure? They are Obamatards and are exactly like the Bushbots and Klintoonoids before them. They will embrace and defend any and everything Obama does.
Replies to Comment # 82. Which is a great argument to ban disruptors. Maybe a 6 month time-out and a public apology to Christine.
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