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Title: OBAMA FAILS TO SALUTE THE U.S. FLAG, WON'T WEAR THE AMERICAN PIN, WEARS ISRAEL'S, REMOVES AMERICAN FLAG FROM HIS PLANE & DRESSES UP IN MUSLIM GARB
Source: supportbordercontrols.blogspot.com
URL Source: http://supportbordercontrols.blogsp ... e-us-flag-wont-wear.html#links
Published: Nov 10, 2008
Author: clifylq
Post Date: 2008-12-18 18:16:44 by Itisa1mosttoolate
Keywords: None
Views: 3162
Comments: 246

OBAMA FAILS TO SALUTE THE U.S. FLAG, WON'T WEAR THE AMERICAN PIN, WEARS ISRAEL'S, REMOVES AMERICAN FLAG FROM HIS PLANE & DRESSES UP IN MUSLIM GARB

I WOULD SAY THAT THIS NEW BASTARD YOU ELECTED TO OFFICE TO REPLACE BUSH IS ANTI AMERICAN WOULDN'T YOU? OR DON'T YOU EVEN CARE?

Barack Obama recently finished a $500,000 total overhaul of his 757. And as part of the new design, he decided to remove the American flag from the tail. What American running for President of the United States would remove the symbol of his country? And worse, he replaced the flag with a symbol of himself.This is not the same as “forgetting” to put your hand over your heart during the national anthem. It is not even the same as wearing or not wearing an American flag lapel pin. It is a conscious, expensive decision to emphasize the importance of self over country. It is the very essence of arrogance, hubris, and, yes, megalomania.

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#16. To: X-15, christine (#14)

Even the Four Seasons Hotel has an obnoxious customer stagger into the bar on occasion, it's no reflection upon the proprietor of the establishment.

Amen!


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2008-12-19   2:36:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: noone222 (#15)


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2008-12-19   2:49:52 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: farmfriend (#17)

You're too kind !

They call it the AMERIKAN DREAM because you have to be asleep (and you are) to believe it !

noone222  posted on  2008-12-19   3:06:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: noone222 (#15)

With the war against Israel's enemies in the Middle East, Black Obama, not to mention wretched, third-world invasion of immigrants crossing our borders, god's pets have made a nightmare of the the American Dream. Folks who come on public forums and praise this nonsense--I call it national suicide--belong in the madhouse.

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2008-12-19   3:23:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: noone222, a vast rightwing conspirator, christine, all (#15)

...to lash out at someone for hosting a website made available even to the retarded such as yourself is really uncalled for...

Well said.


"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all

wudidiz  posted on  2008-12-19   3:27:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Zoroaster (#19)

Folks who come on public forums and praise this nonsense--I call it national suicide--belong in the madhouse.

Amen to that !!!!!

They call it the AMERIKAN DREAM because you have to be asleep (and you are) to believe it !

noone222  posted on  2008-12-19   4:59:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: wudidiz (#20)

I appreciate the compliment.

They call it the AMERIKAN DREAM because you have to be asleep (and you are) to believe it !

noone222  posted on  2008-12-19   5:07:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

I could do a better Photoshop than that with my left hand.

Republicans believe in abortion -- they just wait until they're born and then call them 'collateral damage'.

Turtle  posted on  2008-12-19   5:10:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Turtle (#23)

I could do a better Photoshop than that with my left hand.

Such a talented turtle. What else can you do with your left hand?


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2008-12-19   5:13:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: farmfriend (#24)

What else can you do with your left hand?

Turtle is schocked! Shocked, I tell you! Shocked!

Your evil little mind is as pure as the driven slush!

Republicans believe in abortion -- they just wait until they're born and then call them 'collateral damage'.

Turtle  posted on  2008-12-19   5:47:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Jethro Tull, angle, tom007, a vast rightwing conspirator (#9)

We haven't drank the Obama Kool-Ade like you have. Sorry.

angle, tom & a east european communist butt boy:

Life's a bitch when you blow your cover, ain't it you fucking Traitors ?

Kool-Aid does that.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-19   8:01:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: noone222 (#15)

World Communists: Fucking things up for as long as I can remember.

Exile or Termination.

I don't really care anymore.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-19   8:04:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: christine (#13) (Edited)

Christine,

I fully understand that this site is your hobby. You might have noticed that I did state that this site used to be a good vehicle for interesting exchanges of views and ideas. I believe that all that changed when you allowed Jethro and wackos he believes are his friends - and they may be so - to encourage the replacing of discussions and debates with screams and what they believe were clever insults.

What did you gain out of it: you gained intellectually challenged members of the calibers of Peppa (come and gone), someone by the name of Olivia, come and gone, some cretin who claims to be a Germ, come and gone and Jethro using your site to project his battered cop fears of darkies and encouraging his little army of insulters to be as 'offensive' as possible.

The problem is that you are losing some of your more thoughtful members, and I am not including myself in that category. They are either completely gone or, if they are checking your site, occasionally, they are probably too disgusted or find the 'discussions' too boring or uninteresting to express their views, one way or another. That is how I feel myself, even though I could not count myself among the more thoughtful members. In the good old days, I used to post a dozen articles or more almost every day and there were some good discussions on some of them. Right now, I probably make contributions once or twice a week and I rarely post any new 'stuff' because there are very few worth posting for so why bother.

By the way, I understand and I appreciate your effort. I know that I could not find the time to do what you do and, if I did it and I started my own forum, chances are no one would bother coming. You called what I wrote 'a sucker punch'. This is in line with the current atmosphere at your site where just about all you get is sucker punches and sub-basement-level 'humor'.

My intention is not to sucker punch anyone and, if you really want to know why I wrote what I wrote on THIS thread, I will tell you. I just happened to check the latest threads at your site and I opened that thread and... I simply felt like writing something about the quality of the 'debate'. Yes, I do refer to some of the members at this site as 'cretinazis' and I probably use some other creative terms because sometimes I decide to come down to their level and see if some rudimentary exchange of ideas is possible - it's not. Calling them these fine names is probably not as low as Dr. Jethro cheerfully predicting my children's bright future or the constant torrent of idiotic insults coming from some of those I bozoed already.

You know, for a long, long time I thought that the purpose of a sites like FreeRepublic was to attract all the low-lifes there so that the rest of the Internet can be a cleaner, more enlightening experience. It's possible that, as the Internet becomes increasingly crowded, the FRs and the LPs of the world are overflowing and... they are here now.

Anyways, I really wish you success in pulling out from the swamp Jethro and his friends dragged you into. I suspect that there is a lot of goodwill amongst the more intelligent members to come back and improve the quality of debate here. Like I said, the issue is not kicking the idiots out, it's them being encouraged to put forward the worst of what they got instead of gently but firmly attempt to guide them back into a more rational interaction with the outside world.

I remember you stating at one time, in a private email, that, while you had your own views, as the chief moderator you thought inappropriate to express them in public. I thought that was a most responsible approach. Sadly, you are no longer guided by that principle. First, you allowed your first lieutenant to openly, loudly and stridently (cop-style) express his so-called views, then you began to take sides yourself on debates where the sides were not as important as the 'tools' used to 'debate' - as in one side or both sides aiming at hurting the other side's feelings or simply show off their ugliest features and call it a debate. I understand that I am in no position to give you advice but, if I may express my view, the older approach was probably the superior one and, I believe you were running a better forum then.

So, no sucker punches, just expressing some views. And, in my view, this forum looks more and more like the online version of the Jerry Springer show where the guests are running it.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-12-19   8:08:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#28)

I believe that all that changed when you allowed Jethro and wackos he believes are his friends - and they may be so - to encourage the replacing of discussions and debates with screams and what they believe were clever insults.

Show me how and where this began. And why would you suggest that christine "allowed" me to do this?

#2. To: freepatriot32 (#0) (Edited)

If a Namibian cereal killer and part-time French prostitute sinned with Osama's step son and then came to the States illegally and gave birth to a blind dog on the second day of her illegal stay, that blind dog would be, by current law, a natural born citizen of the United States.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator posted on 2008-12-13

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Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-12-19   8:26:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Christine (#28)

I remember you stating at one time, in a private email, that, while you had your own views, as the chief moderator you thought inappropriate to express them in public. I thought that was a most responsible approach. Sadly, you are no longer guided by that principle.

I hope she sucks it up and tells you Traitors what she really thinks.

You lowlife JBT licking tool.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-19   8:32:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Jethro Tull (#29)

encourage the replacing of discussions and debates with

The many decades of running down their rabbit trails with them are over.

Let them mentally masturbate amongst themselves, somewhere more befitting the bat shit crazy lunatics. Like DUmpster.

They've appealed to the lowest common lowlife denominator and jawed their boy into the selection.

Fuck'em.

They won the battle and we're going to win the war.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-19   8:42:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: christine, Jethro Tull (#12)

what point do you think vast has made, tom?

The hotel analogy seems good, seems like a few freaks are pissing on the carpets here.

I don't think JT has anything to do with it tho.

That said, I have a thick skin, and the babellings of a few scatological pin heads are but dust in the wind.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2008-12-19   8:43:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Jethro Tull, Christine, All (#29)

to encourage the replacing of discussions and debates with screams and what they believe were clever insults.

But they dont want discussions or debates. They want people to agree with them that black is white and up is down. When resistance is met, they bitch and moan that we unplugged are oh so stupid not to believe them.

Look at the Bright Side, obamatards. Your man takes office in 1 month. You think things will be all peachy, I say you are going to get royally reamed.

All-in bets are on the table, river card is dealt, we'll see the cards shortly.

Let's see who is right. Will it be the obamatards, or us country bumpkins.

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Nehemiah 4:14 And I looked and arose and said to the nobles and to the officials and to the rest of the people, “Do not be afraid of them. Remember the Lord, who is great and awesome, and fight for your brothers, your sons, your daughters, your wives, and your homes.”

PSUSA  posted on  2008-12-19   8:57:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: PSUSA, Rotara, tom007, all (#33)

But they dont want discussions or debates. They want people to agree with them that black is white and up is down.

Early on in the Obama campaign, it became obvious that many of our fellow Bush Bashers were Democrats. Whereas we thought, all along, that they were opposed to big, bloated, socialistic government, in truth they thought all that was needed was for a Democrat to ascend to the throne. That is the core of the differences we have; they believe in government as long as it's Democrat controlled, and most others here reject government regardless of who is president.

#2. To: freepatriot32 (#0) (Edited)

If a Namibian cereal killer and part-time French prostitute sinned with Osama's step son and then came to the States illegally and gave birth to a blind dog on the second day of her illegal stay, that blind dog would be, by current law, a natural born citizen of the United States.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator posted on 2008-12-13

16:18:07 ET Reply Trace Private

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-12-19   9:31:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#28)

I remember you stating at one time, in a private email, that, while you had your own views, as the chief moderator you thought inappropriate to express them in public. I thought that was a most responsible approach. Sadly, you are no longer guided by that principle.

ah..but yes i am. only you took it the wrong way. it's the views and opinions of you partisans that i tolerate and with whom i hold my tongue. your bias is showing, vast. i notice that it's only you and your fellow obamaphiles complaining about who and what is posted on this forum.

as for your complaints about JT or the others you mentioned, take it to them. i don't speak for them. i speak for no one but myself.

christine  posted on  2008-12-19   9:35:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Jethro Tull, PSUSA (#34) (Edited)

But they dont want discussions or debates. They want people to agree with them that black is white and up is down.

Early on in the Obama campaign, it became obvious that many of our fellow Bush Bashers were Democrats. Whereas we thought, all along, that they were opposed to big, bloated, socialistic government, in truth they thought all that was needed was for a Democrat to ascend to the throne. That is the core of the differences we have; they believe in government as long as it's Democrat controlled, and most others here reject government regardless of who is president.

Obingo

They were 'friends' and 'patriots' when it was a republicrat brand we were all bashing.

They suckered us, but we also let them.

As PSUSA pointed out so well; I have long ago given up playing their game.

They WILL NOT walk away laughing. That I guarantee.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-19   9:37:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: PSUSA (#33)

They want people to agree with them that black is white and up is down.

They sure got a lot of suckers, rubes, twits and suckers (did I say suckers already) to go along with their double think.

Pure communist jew program.

Now we have Obamalamadingdong, the golden calf jews' best friend.

TO HELL with the Globalist feudalistic commie NeoCon leninist trotskyite scum !

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-19   9:42:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#28)

. You might have noticed that I did state that this site used to be a good vehicle for interesting exchanges of views and ideas.

It still is you enemy of free speech. You see good people just don't like you evil folk. You are the enemy so get used to it.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-12-19   9:48:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Jethro Tull (#28)

The problem is that you are losing some of your more thoughtful members, and I am not including myself in that category. They are either completely gone or, if they are checking your site, occasionally, they are probably too disgusted or find the 'discussions' too boring or uninteresting to express their views, one way or another.

You can't suck up to people. Let people say what they want. I have made that mistake. Hey Jethro sorry for ***ing out your nigger word.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-12-19   9:51:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Christine (#28)

I remember you stating at one time, in a private email, that, while you had your own views, as the chief moderator you thought inappropriate to express them in public

That is smart. I wish I would have done that way back when.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-12-19   9:53:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Jethro Tull, Rotara, All (#34) (Edited)

That is the core of the differences we have; they believe in government as long as it's Democrat controlled, and most others here reject government regardless of who is president.

That's why I like this board. It's not for debate because boards are a poor for debating, but for fellowship even if it is a "make believe" interenet world.

While there are disagreements we handle them like grown men and women and state why we disagree. There is never any hard feelings. At least none that I can see.

I agree in that it is the partisan political people that stir up the shit here. Now its the democrats. In 4 years or less (if we last that long...) it will be the republicans doing the shit-stirring. I wonder which current members that will be... or will there be an invasion?

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Nehemiah 4:14 And I looked and arose and said to the nobles and to the officials and to the rest of the people, “Do not be afraid of them. Remember the Lord, who is great and awesome, and fight for your brothers, your sons, your daughters, your wives, and your homes.”

PSUSA  posted on  2008-12-19   9:54:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: christine (#35)

Obamaphile? Complaining?

I am not complaining but I do not, with some sadness, that the quality of the debate at this forum is not improving, to say it very mildly. I suppose there is some attraction in changing a debate site into an echo chamber. The outcome is, to some lesser extent because the physical proximity is absent, what you get when the loud-mouths take over the microphones and whip the mobs into some mindless frenzy. It makes for great entertainment and that is one of the reasons I still visit this site from time to time but you can't call what's happening here 'debate' or 'discussion' and claim that you are serious.

As for me, 'taking up' anything with JT or his lesser screamers... are you kidding? I am having much more meaningful exchanges of ideas with my dogs.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-12-19   10:05:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#28)

freedom4um.com/cgi- bin/index.cgi

The mission of this forum is to provide a cyberspace meeting place where lovers of individual freedom can gather to post articles and opinions about the world's events and how these events affect their unalienable rights to life, liberty, and property.

One of our fundamental rights is that of our right to freedom of association. The correlative right to freedom of association is the equally important right to freedom of non-association. Yes, the right to NOT associate -- to exclude people from our interrelationships, for any reason, based on personal preference, is also a fundamental right. This right should be free from government interference, coercion, policies, statutes, rules, regulations, codes, or force.

Another fundamental right is the right to private property -- to own and enjoy our property free from government or second-party interference, as long as one's use of that property does not trespass on the equal rights of another.

Consistent with these two fundamental unalienable rights, this forum constitutes the private property of its owners and, as such, allows for the exercise of our right to freedom of association and freedom of non-association, based on our preferences. Therefore, regarding banning policies of this forum, as they relate to the protection of private property, the owners reserve the right to suspend or terminate the posting privileges of guests on this forum at our discretion.

That said, we will endeavor to use this discretion judiciously while being mindful of not allowing guests to post on this forum who, we believe, are detrimental to the goals and values consistent with that of individual liberty.

christine  posted on  2008-12-19   10:10:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#42)

I am not complaining but I do not, with some sadness, that the quality of the debate at this forum is not improving, to say it very mildly.

Lets debate.

Tell me who Obama has appointed to his cabinet that will make a difference in our present political system?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-12-19   10:16:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Jethro Tull, a vast rightwing conspirator (#44)

Title: Change? Obama Inner Circle Filled With Bilderbergers
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/obama_bilderbergers_160.html

Published: Dec 16, 2008
Author: Victor Thorn
Post Date: 2008-12-16 23:59:22 by Horse
Keywords: None
Views: 52

Comments: 3

FOR TWO YEARS, Americans have heard an unrelenting mantra of change emanating from the campaign trail. But now that President-elect Barack Obama has begun forming his cabinet, we’re seeing a cadre of more deeply entrenched insiders than any administration that has preceded it.

In regard to key foreign policy advisors, all three of Obama’s selections either initially supported the Iraq war, or still do. On the economic front, each appointee maintains a close relationship with the Jewish triad of Ben Bernanke, Robert Rubin and Alan Greenspan—as well as bailout engineer Henry Paulson. Barack Obama himself is a Council on Foreign Relations member, has strong ties to Zbigniew Brzezinski, and participated in a clandestine meeting with Hillary Clinton at Bilderberg member Diane Feinstein’s house at the time when 2008 Bilderberg members were congregating only a few miles away.

Below is an overview of Obama’s top 14 selections to date. When considering their collective histories, a trend becomes clear, proving that the more things change under Obama, the more they stay the same.

1. TIMOTHY GEITHNER – TREASURY SECRETARY

Bilderberg, Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, president and CEO of Federal Reserve Bank of New York, director of policy development for IMF, member Group of Thirty (G30), employed at Kissinger & Associates, architect of the recent 2008 financial bailouts, mentored by Lawrence Summers and Robert Rubin.

2. PAUL VOLCKER – ECONOMIC RECOVERY ADVISORY BOARD

Bilderberg, Council on Foreign Relations, North American chairman of Trilateral Commission, Federal Reserve chairman during Carter and Reagan administrations, president of Federal Reserve Bank of New York, G30 member, chairman Rothschild Wolfensohn Company, key figure in the collapse of the gold standard during the Nixon administration, longtime associate of the Rockefeller family.

3. RAHM EMANUEL – CHIEF OF STAFF

Member of Israeli Defense Force, staunch Zionist, senator, Board of Directors for Freddie Mac, member of Bill Clinton’s finance campaign committee, made $16.2 million during 2.5 years as an investment banker for Wasserstein Perella. His father was a member of the Israeli Irgun terrorist group.

4. LAWRENCE SUMMERS – NATIONAL ECONOMIC COUNCIL

Bilderberg, Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, treasury secretary during Clinton administration, chief economist at World Bank, former president of Harvard University, Brookings Institute board member, huge proponent of globalization while working for the IMF, protŠ01; of David Rockefeller, mentored by Robert Rubin.

5. DAVID AXELROD – SENIOR ADVISOR

Political consultant whose past clients include Sens. Hillary Clinton, John Edwards and Christopher Dodd; main Obama fixer in the William Ayers and Reverend Wright scandals.

6. HILLARY CLINTON – SECRETARY OF STATE

Bilderberg, Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, clandestine CIA asset used to infiltrate the anti-war movement at Yale University and the Watergate hearings, senior partner at the Rose Law Firm, key figure in the Mena drug trafficking affair, architect of the Waco disaster, implicated in the murder/ cover-up of Vince Foster, and many other deaths.

7. JOSEPH BIDEN – VICE PRESIDENT

Bilderberg, Council on Foreign Relations, U.S. Senator since 1972, member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, current chairman of the U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, strong Zionist sympathizer who recently told Rabbi Mark S. Golub of Shalom TV, “I am a Zionist. You don’t have to be a Jew to be a Zionist.”

8. BILL RICHARDSON – COMMERCE SECRETARY

Bilderberg, Council on Foreign Relations, former U.S. congressman, chairman of the Democratic National Convention in 2004, employee of Kissinger Associates, UN ambassador, governor of New Mexico, energy secretary, major player in the Monica Lewinsky cover-up with Bilderberg luminary Vernon Jordan.

9. ROBERT GATES – DEFENSE SECRETARY

Bilderberg, Council on Foreign Relations, former CIA Director, defense secretary under President Bush, co-chaired CFR task force with Zbigniew Brzezinski, knee-deep in the Iran-Contra scandal, named in a 1999 class action lawsuit pertaining to the Mena drug trafficking affair.

10. TOM DASCHLE – HEALTH SECRETARY

Bilderberg, Council on Foreign Relations, former Senate majority leader, Citibank lackey, mentored by Robert Rubin.

11. ERIC HOLDER – ATTORNEY GENERAL

Key person in the pardon of racketeer Marc Rich, deputy attorney general under Janet Reno, facilitated the pardon of 16 Puerto Rican FALN terrorists under Bill Clinton.

12. JANET NAPOLITANO – HOMELAND SECURITY DIRECTOR

Council on Foreign Relations, Arizona governor, attorney for Anita Hill during the Clarence Thomas hearings, U.S. attorney during the Clinton administration, instrumental in the OKC cover-up, where she declared, “We’ll pursue every bit of evidence and every lead,” described as another Janet Reno, soft on illegal immigration (i.e. pro-amnesty and drivers licenses to illegals).

13. GEN. JAMES L. JONES – NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR

Bilderberg, Trilateral Commission, European supreme allied commander, special envoy for Middle-East Security during Bush administration, board of directors for Chevron and Boeing, NATO commander, member of Brent Scowcroft’s Institute for International Affairs along with Zbigniew Brzezinski, Bobby Ray Inman, Bilderberg luminary Henry Kissinger and former CIA Director John Deutch.

14. SUSAN RICE – U.N. AMBASSADOR

Council on Foreign Relations, Rhodes scholar, campaign foreign policy advisor to presidential candidates John Kerry and Michael Dukakis, member of Bill Clinton’s National Security Council and assistant secretary of state for Africa, member of the Brookings Institute (funded by the Ford Foundation and the Rockefellers), and member of the Aspen Strategy Group (teeming with Bilderberg insiders such as Richard Armitage, Brent Scowcroft, and Madeleine Albright).

For a reference point. This is always a waste of time with these fucking Traitorous clowns, but what the hell. I have some time to kill today.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-19   10:28:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: ALL (#45)

Obama’s top 14 selections to date.

There has never been a larger collection of America hating world socialist illegal shadow government Traitors in history !!!

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-19   10:32:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Rotara (#46)

Good luck with the small band of leftists who remain. Their work here isn't quite finished.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-12-19   10:39:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Jethro Tull (#47)

Good luck with the small band of leftists who remain. Their work here isn't quite finished.

I'm tired of their evil shell game.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-19   10:44:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Jethro Tull (#44)

LOL - sorry friend. You may not have figured this out but I'm not handcuffed and you are not in the position to question anybody.

Anyways, your interesting (while bizarre) attempt at 'debate' is a good illustration of the problems a forum like this one faces when the likes of you drag it into a ditch - or is it a crevasse? - where mindlessness and low-grade profanity prevail. It's not so easy to pull it out of there.

So, good luck managing your echo chamber.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-12-19   10:58:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#42)

I am having much more meaningful exchanges of ideas with my dogs.

You are welcome to repair to your kennel, sir, where you may lecture your hapless pets by the hour on the virtues of the Chosen One and the sins of the unwashed. I think it would be far kinder to feed them a treat or take them for a walk.

Now that the constitutional butchery of the outgoing administration is coming to an end and that empty suit of yours comes into office, we hear nary a peep about the "Patriot" Act, the Presidential Decision Directives, the warrantless wiretaps, or the war toward which this man offered a token and totally false oppostion manufactured to lure the gullible to the voting place.

"Then, as I paid more attention to him and I learned more about him AND as I saw the despicable monsters he was fighting on both the Demo and the GOP sides, I understood that, as far as the presidency of the state is concerned, he was 'it'.

As much as my prediction could make the sissy stoopids roll on the floor, shaking and foam at their foul mouths, I see Obama as a the fifth Mt. Rushmore figure, in about 50 years."

Well, now we have "it," and it looks like all the awful machinery of executive oppression erected by George II remains locked in place. The people's champion has damned little to say about it.

You seem to have an affinity for the canine, and the Obamas are shopping for the obligatory White House pet. Why don't you request an application??

randge  posted on  2008-12-19   10:59:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: randge (#50)

Salute...

Very well done.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-12-19   11:02:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: randge (#50)

You are welcome to repair to your kennel, sir, where you may lecture your hapless pets by the hour on the virtues of the Chosen One and the sins of the unwashed. I think it would be far kinder to feed them a treat or take them for a walk.

Now that the constitutional butchery of the outgoing administration is coming to an end and that empty suit of yours comes into office, we hear nary a peep about the "Patriot" Act, the Presidential Decision Directives, the warrantless wiretaps, or the war toward which this man offered a token and totally false oppostion manufactured to lure the gullible to the voting place.

"Then, as I paid more attention to him and I learned more about him AND as I saw the despicable monsters he was fighting on both the Demo and the GOP sides, I understood that, as far as the presidency of the state is concerned, he was 'it'.

As much as my prediction could make the sissy stoopids roll on the floor, shaking and foam at their foul mouths, I see Obama as a the fifth Mt. Rushmore figure, in about 50 years."

Well, now we have "it," and it looks like all the awful machinery of executive oppression erected by George II remains locked in place. The people's champion has damned little to say about it.

You seem to have an affinity for the canine, and the Obamas are shopping for the obligatory White House pet. Why don't you request an application??

Sweeeeet. LOL!

"Wherever a Knave is not punished, an honest Man is laugh'd at." -- George Savile (1633-1695)
"Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth." -- Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2008-12-19   11:03:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#49)

You may not have figured this out but I'm not handcuffed and you are not in the position to question anybody.

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha!

You're handcuffed by your own beliefs.

Lose-Lose-Loser situation for you.

This is why no American has anything to say to you.

GOOD GRIEF - I seriously can't wait for the million moron Ocorps to hit my hood.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-19   11:04:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#49)

the problems a forum like this one faces when the likes of you drag it into a ditch

Traitor.

You Traitors couldn't bamboozle with b.s. anymore so you ran for communist climes.

GFY commie.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-19   11:06:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#42)

It makes for great entertainment and that is one of the reasons I still visit this site from time to time but you can't call what's happening here 'debate' or 'discussion' and claim that you are serious.

it's obvious that you're not interested in debate, vast. there are plenty of quality articles on a variety of topics offered here on a daily basis, but you're not interested. your interest is worship of your obamamessiah and you find fault and criticize as lesser anyone who's not in line with that.

i think at this point you have an agenda to damage this 4um and that your desire is to cause further dissention.

you are not a person who respects individualism. your values as an american do not match mine or the purpose of Freedom4um. it's time to exercise my right to freedom of association or not. i no longer welcome you here.

christine  posted on  2008-12-19   11:10:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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