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Published: Dec 20, 2008
Author: WhoRU
Post Date: 2008-12-20 12:19:02 by 2cb
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There is only ONE lawful way to restore the principles the USA was founded upon that I can think of - and if you can think of a better way, I'd like to hear it, because I see everything else as futile. First, we must understand that the 'Civil' War didn't free slaves, it just made EVERYONE slaves of the federal government by creating federal subjects called "US citizens", which came from the Civil Rights Act of 1866, then amended into the Constitution in the 14th Amendment. Federal subjects have no 'rights', only 'priviledges'. This, and the loss of _s_tate sovereignty (in the creation of federal political subdivision [municipal] overlays called _S_tates - eliminating all dejure _s_tate offices/officers/oaths/bonds) is at the core of turning everything upside down, turning everyone into subjects to the federal government and it's corporate creations: States, agencies/agents/employees, etc. This is NOT government, though i most people think of it as government. These are merely hired guns, mercenaries just like Blackwater Inc., and they all operate under the color-of-authority and color-of-law. The final nails in the coffin came when an unconstitutional 4th branch of 'administrative government' was created under President Franklin Roosevelt which left the other 3 branches (Executive/Legislative/Judicial) vacant. There is NOTHING left of our Constitutional form of government (except Sheriffs and Notaries) and fighting within the fraud to stop the fraud is without any reasonable or practical sense. Waiting for them to come grab guns and die in a suicide-by-cop is also idiotic - there are an endless supply of people that will serve evil for $$$. If everyone refused to EVER sign any contract whereby one admits to being a "US/federal citizen/subject", things would be pretty much right themselves, and all the fraud would fall apart, but that isn't going to happen. The masses of people will always prefer ignorance, dependency, and slavery to the responsibilities of freedom. Thus, the only practical way to restore the principles of life, liberty, and property is for a group of less than 1000 patriotic and knowledgeable people to move and become residents of any one of the several dozen of counties in the USA that have less than 1000 in population. Loving County in Texas for example has only 300 people or so. This doesn't mean everyone must purchase property - it means to *reside* by any means necessary to vote in a Constitutionally and lawfully aware Sheriff. THEN: everyone votes in a patriotic and Constitutionally knowledgeable Sheriff - who can then KEEP OUT ALL GOVT *EMPLOYEES* - BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL OPERATING UNDER THE COLOR-OF-AUTHORITY AND COLOR-OF-LAW in their enforcements over "US citizens", and have NO CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY over a Sheriff or natural born citizens - people of the land. This will be 100% lawful, and the Sheriff can deputize the whole county to 'preserve the peace', which is his highest responsibility. The Sheriff is the HIGHEST Constitutional law enforcement authority in the land - no one can lawfully usurp his authority to enforce Constitutional law, and everyone in the county can lawfully support him with whatever force necessary. ALL patriot groups could take part and would be needed - the Constitutional law scholars, the subsistence farmers, the unorganized militia that train and prepare, the activists/organizers and radio hosts, etc. Someone with a voice needs to motivate this into happening. Waiting to be reactive is stupid, futile, and a big waste of time; it is long past time to be PROACTIVE! If we can just accomplish this with ONE COUNTY/500 people, it will begin to attract support and attention, and then there is a chance for other counties to follow. Only by restoring *law* (as opposed to statutes/regulations/policy) and offices/officers/oaths/bonds and ridding ourselves of federal agencies/agents/employees and the associated dependency/servitude of 'US citizenship' can we achieve the founding principles of the USA. I see no other practical solution. DO YOU???
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comments: 1. agents take oaths, but they are not the official oaths prescribed in law for government officers operating under the Constitution. 2. agents have no official office - an official office is created by the legislature in law, by the people. 3. agents have no civil commissions - which is the authority granted to an government officer to exercise power over people. 4. agents post no official bonds and cannot be held accountable to the people, because they are not official officers of govt. official bonds are the value of the officers property which is posted to hold him accountable if he violates his official duties as an officer, in which case, he forfeits such property to the value of his damage. -- agents are all that 'govt' is made of now, and they operate totally outside the Constitution, and have absolutely no Constitutional authority over any non-US citizen. and really, how can anyone be a "US citizen"? you couldn't possibly be a "US citizen" because corporations cannot lawfully contract. what you signed was a unilateral, and hence, unenforceable contract. All Law is Commerce; All Commerce is Contract; No Contract - No Case.
There is no government and there are no laws.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Free State Wyoming has just such a plan and they are trying to execute it in Wyoming. In Wyoming the Sheriff is recognized as the highest law in the County and is in a good legal position to reign in Federal interlopers. Ken Royce (a.k.a Boston T. Party) organized the Free State Wyoming and wrote about how the plan works (moving folks from county to county for specific elections) in his book Molon Labe, which I recommend highly.
I thought that fell off of the face of the earth over 1.5 years ago ??
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
i appreciate the responses, and am thinking about them because this is worthy of some intelligent discussion. but i thought i would post an example of what we find in Alaska, which is probably similar to other states - this will help people understand what is going on in 'govt': -- Peace officers such as a Sheriff should have the following: 1) must have an Oath of Office as a public officer under public seal in a public forum for inspection. 2) must have a Certificate of Election being elected by and accountable to the people of Alaska. 3) must have an Official Bond being highly bonded by his personal assets. 4) must be accountable by either recall or impeachment by the people for nonfeasance, misfeasance or malfeasance, and ouster from office by quo warranto if the Oath, Certificate, and Bond were not accomplished before entering the duties of his Office (or within 15 days or so). within the lawful government of the State of Alaska, as all other of the several States and the United States, there are only two types of people in the government: A) the first is a public officer, which is a person that is authorized and empowered by the people to exercise some of the sovereignty of the state over our life, liberty and property. this public officer has discretion within the limits of this authorized and empowered office. to assure that these people are properly authorized and empowered by the people of Alaska, the following items must be accomplished before entering the duties of their office. these items must be in a public forum for inspection by we the people: 1. Oath of Office as a public officer of the State of Alaska under public seal. as the United States of America is an Oath swearing nation, this is our highest form of assurance that the person is bound by the our organic law, including the Constitution of the United States. 2. Certificate of Election or Civil Commission under public seal. the Alaska State Troopers are not elected by the people, but purportedly appointed, therefore they must have a Civil Commission from a public officer of the State of Alaska to authorize and empower them. this Civil Commission is very similar to the document that all Notary Publics have from the Lt. Governor that will always be displayed where the Notary Public notarizes documents. 3. the Official Bond is like a performance bond used by contractors and has the same purpose to assure performance of the public officer to the people, the Constitution, and the duties of their office. It is also a financial assurance that the public officer will not deprive us of due process of law and violate our rights secured in the Constitution. the public officer will place their personal assets in the form of an official bond payable to the State of Alaska, it is specifically for the benefit of the people of Alaska if this public officer should damage us in some manner by their actions or lack of their action. the office that they enter must be created by the Constitution or by the Legislature, and it is not mere employment. it will have a term of office along with specific duties of one of the three branches of government, being executive, legislative, or judicial. B) the second is a public employee, which is a person that has only ministerial duties. they are not authorized or empowered to exercise any sovereignty of the state over our life, liberty, and property. they have specific duties for their job and they have supervisors that monitor their actions. they can not be impeached, recalled, or oustered from office, as there is no office. the Judges and Justices (Magistrates) all have employee affidavits as public employees of the State of Alaska. this negates them being public officers of the State of Alaska. the employee affidavit is labeled as an Oath and a second Oath is also taken by the Magistrates as a deception for the Oath of Office of a public officer. the true Oath of Office of a public officer of the State of Alaska is found in Article XII section 5 of the Constitution of the State of Alaska and it is in quotation marks and can not be changed except by amendment. there are 41 words in this Oath and no Magistrate has this exact Oath of Office as a public officer of the State of Alaska. the exact words are as follows from Article XII Section 5 of the Constitution of the State of Alaska: all public officers, before entering upon the duties of their offices, shall take and subscribe to the following oath or affirmation: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of Alaska, and that I will faithfully discharge my duties as . . . to the best of my ability." the legislature may prescribe further oaths or affirmations. the lower courts being the District Courts and Superior Courts have one style of the deceptive Oath of Office and the Supreme Court has another version of deceptive Oath of Office. they have changed the words around and the punctuation. the Oath of Office will not show the source of the Oath being the Constitution. they will use O A T H O F O F F I C E, with spaces between the letters of the words and underline the letters. this does not spell words, another deception. the words used by John Reese are as follows: I, JOHN REESE, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America and the Constitution of the State of Alaska and that I will faithfully discharge my duties as a judicial officer for the State of Alaska to the best of my abilities. there are many deceptions in this Oath. the name 'JOHN REESE' isn't in the public officer oath mandated. they have changed the 'Constitution of the United States' to the 'Constitution of the United States of America' and this is totally incorrect. the duties are as a judicial officer for the State of Alaska. this is not an office for a 'judicial officer for the State of Alaska', and it should read 'judge of the superior court'. the 'for' in this clearly demonstrates that the judicial officer is working 'for' the State of Alaska, just as if the prosecutor is a Prosecutor 'for' the State of Alaska. the judge is by the Law to be impartial and not a working 'for' the State of Alaska. all judges are members of the Alaska Bar Association and the act creating the Bar (specifically in chapter 196, section 4 of year 1955) states that no judge in a court of record can be a member of the Bar. another illegal act by all of the Magistrates. the Official Bond that the Magistrates purportedly have is found in the Alaska Rules of Court in the Administrative Rule 34, which is a mere Employee Dishonesty Bond only for the protection of the State of Alaska for employees stealing from the State of Alaska. Another deception. the only Civil Commission that we have evidence of is for Jay Rabinowitz, who is a deceased Justice of the Supreme Court of Alaska. None exist for any Magistrate today as mandated by law. letters exist congratulating the Magistrates, but they are not even signed by the Governor. another deception. impersonating a public officer is a misdemeanor charge. and they are all doing it.
You're preaching to the choir hear bro. I'm telling you, as long as los feralales claim jurisdiction you will die or be on the run before you die. We shall have to go from a defensive posture to an offensive posture and soon. I've been smeared as a domestic terrorist for my defense of the united States Constitution (an imperfect but good basis for our government), for my defense of the patriots that have been wronged/destroyed and quite frankly - I FEEL LIKE I PROBABLY AM WHAT THEY CALL a 'domestic terrorist' !! The murdering bastards need to get a large dose of their OWN skeeeeeredy cat medicine me thinks.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
i don't know what answer you are looking for exactly - i am just a nobody like most - i ran into some legal corruption/fraud with the municipality 15 years ago, and i fell into a deep and endless rabbit hole of more corruption/fraud, 10 years of fighting in courts, and thereafter, harrassment/assault/etc. and the truth was so ugly that i withdrew in every way possible in my war of attrition against the beast system, and i now live off about $3000/yr in Alaska on 1/4 acre and occassionally i guest on radio shows relating to homesteading/subsistence living. and in Alaska, we have no Sheriffs, and it is something i am currently working on, because it is a problem, and i envy those in states that have them, because they are a lawful ticket in the restoration of our republican form of govt, and i am working on doing this in Alaska, but it is more difficult, because we were never a dejure state with Sheriffs - we went from Territory directly into a federal municipality, eg, State.
Free State Wyoming has just such a plan and they are trying to execute it in Wyoming. In Wyoming the Sheriff is recognized as the highest law in the County and is in a good legal position to reign in Federal interlopers. Ken Royce (a.k.a Boston T. Party) organized the Free State Wyoming and wrote about how the plan works (moving folks from county to county for specific elections) in his book Molon Labe, which I recommend highly. yes, i know about these - but they aren't practical. we don't have enough people - they didn't even choose states with the lowest populations. states would require millions of patriots - a county only requires a few hundred - and it can be done almost immediately, and can be even more effective since a county wouldn't require a major overhaul to 'free'. it is a much more cohesive unit, where people can support each other and back each other up and train together. it is also an easier piece of ground to rally around in the event of angry govt *employees*. county-by-county freedom can spread much faster - freeing one county would be a big inspiration and would attract people from all over by the 1000's. the free-state projects are basically going nowhere - it is too much to bite off and it seems to me that time is not on our side - and the longer we also, keep in mind - it isn't only about federal interlopers - States are political subdivisions of the federal govt, and there is little that applies to the federal employees that doesn't apply as well to State employees in regards to operating under the color-of-office, color-of-authority, and color-of-law. they are all imposters. wait, the more diminishing the returns. you can only hold what you can defend - no matter what tricks you use to take over a state with a minority of patriots - it's useless if you can't defend your ground with force, and defending an entire state is much more problematic than defending a county. people can't drive dozens or 100's of miles from one city to another to defend someone being kidnapped by govt *employees*. a state isn't a very cohesive unit to take such stands.
1 - The 40,000,000-100,000,000+ new turd worlders that are going to soon be minted nuevo AmeriKans would be happy to plop down on corp.gov paid for housing and immediately negate any real American's vote. If that weren't the case, there are plenty of scuzzy dependents and their Libcom masters that would be happy to dilute a patriot-population. 2 - Accusations of; child molestation - drug manufacturing - income tax evasion - weapons caches - domestic terrorist haven - etc. would be used by corp.gov to demonize and then devastate such a community. There are several examples of how corp.gov handles these situations ergo Waco. 3 - "Commercial Services" would probably be refused in short order, encompassing a whole host of scenarios. Satellite communications would be the extent of contact with others outside such a community and those services would be denied eventually as well. An 'embargo' of sorts would likely be used with checkpoints in and out. 4 - I wouldn't put it past corp.gov to enlist their pals MIC and rain artillery down on the community if the bastards were taking losses of their spies and other 'agents'. Victory will require the slaughter of several hundred Globalist agents inside AmeriKa, followed by a significant portion of the military not only disobeying luciferian orders but also assisting patriots in holding key locales and facilitating logistics. The world socialist foot soldiers, such as some of the vast rodents that scurry about 4um, would have to be whacked whenever they get in the way. Some will stand for the Globalists and World Communism (and be killed) while others would once again pretend to be patriots and put Ron Paul bumper stickers back on the Priuses (watch these slippery pigs closely). (I would never trust them again and consider exiling them after victory - no need to imprison or kill them if they'll just leave. For, say..Cuba or China or the EU) Anyway, I have a lot of messages to return but I'll pop on and off all weekend. i do not know what the immediate response from govt *employees* would be, except to say that it would be unlawful if there were to be any. but i know it would be nice to see THEM reacting and wondering what to do for once! i know it would be nice to exercise some lawful power for once instead of living a victimized life waiting for the next hammer to be thrown down on me at a time and place and manner i do not know. i would feel better if i had some control and knowledge of the situation for once. in regards to your points: #1: there is no govt-paid housing in the small counties. they are farm/ranch land, perfect for self-sufficiency if it proves necessary. #2: yes, there would be propaganda to work against - fortunately, we have a lot of media under 'our' control now - the web, the radio networks, etc. and we might not have these things forever. propaganda is something that needs to be dealt with no matter what happens - but things will be much easier in that regard if we have higher standing in regards to being lawful. also, Waco was less than 100 people - a county would be a bigger area with 100's of people, with 1000's nearby that would probably activate in case of any bad events. #3: a rural county with several 100 people isn't dependent on "commercial services". they are rural areas where one can live self-sustainably as a community for a very long time. it would be difficult to totally seal off the 100's of square miles of a rural county. it would require much more manpower than than govt *employees* could muster for long, especially if similar things started happening in other county's. also, it's important to remember this isn't about finding a life of leisure and comfort, it's a war against tyranny. #4: raining artillary is for areas of concentrated targets - 1000 people over 100's of square miles is not a good target for bombs, etc. also, having control of the ground and knowledge of the situation allows people to prepare in various ways that they couldn't otherwise. and again, i have to think that 1000's would rally around any kind of violent conflict in such a county. and as the Militia without a lawful Commander-in-Chief, they have every right and duty to do so. also, keep in mind - the county mentioned is on the Gulf Coast - you'd have to block the ocean, plus all the land - all for a few 100 patriots :) it would be a major task to stop such an effort. i imagine things like this: there is some kind of warning system that can be triggered by phone or some other means which can alert everyone by radio if there is any govt *employee* in the county that is trying to exercise authority, at which time everyone within a few square miles is deputized to come to the aid of the Sheriff in arresting such an employee for impersonating a public officer and whatever of the other numerous charges you want to lay on them. you can fine them or keep them in jail for a while as bargaining chips - i don' t know - i haven't thought it all out yet. but it is interesting to contemplate. victory only happens when you have the peasants on your side. you can't win a revolution if you are against the farmers/ranchers - because they are at the root of the food chain, the root of any nations survival - so - that is in our favor - because we can free them of taxes, regulations, Monsanto harrassment, etc. we can make the peasants prosperous, whereas, govt *employees* and bankers only lie, cheat, and steal from them and make their life hell so they can live high on the hog while others do all their dirty work for them. you win a revolution with the support of peasants - you can't win without it, and you can't lose with it. killing Globalists has little to do with things - the land is at the root, and those that work it - Globalists and Bankers are way down the food chain. you win a revolution by taking control of the food chain - the rural areas. everyone else is dependent on those areas, and they fall whichever way those in control of rural areas want them to fall. we don't need to "whack" and chase them down - we only need to take control and defend rural areas - please consider this ... whoever has control of the soil, and the support of those that work the soil, wins. nothing/noone else matters.
Great idea in principle but has a fat chance of succeeding or spreading across the land. The fed govt would squash it and the rest of the country wouldn't care. As I see it, things have gotten so bad and out of control, only bloodshed could turn things around. .......and I doubt if we will ever even come to that. Too many are far too soft and afraid to reclaim our liberty. i don't think it will be so easy to squash, i think it would serve as a rallying point if it came to a violent stand-off. and the law would be on the side of the people, not the govt. the govt would be afraid of the "truth" of their fraud to get out. it would place them in a very difficult position. and we would be much better prepared than Randy Weaver or Waco. i think there would be 1000's on our side - not so easy to squash. we would have THEM surrounded in such a matter. it would spread because it would be tax-free and prosperous, while the rest of the country is failing. it doesn't need to spread across the land like fire, it is sufficient for any county that takes such a stand to be able to hold it's ground. time and worsening conditions will take care of the rest.
Unfortunately, we're past the point of peaceful resistance. God bless you neighbor.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
A thousand well intentioned people would be squashed very easily. They could use five or six thousand jack booted thugs from the NYPD, LAPD, or some other big city PD. Then there is the sanctions that a county would be faced with. Let's see, no food allowed into that county, no electric, no water, and if winter, no heat. The rest of the pussified Amerikans got better things to do like, football.baseball,hockey, hunting, NASCAR, fishing, and most assuredly DRINKING> Sounds good and I'm sure you are well intentioned.but it would end up another ALAMO.
The French resistance had a motto; two Nazis for each Frenchman. Should the SHTF, do what you have to do, and don't worry about orders from headquarters.
Loving county appears to be in SWTexas, well inland, and not all that far from the RioGrande...
That is exactly what I intend to do when the SHTF. The stick togetherness ain't ever gonna happen and things will never get back to where they once were.
who is talking about peaceful resistance?
Then there is the sanctions that a county would be faced with. Let's see, no food allowed into that county, no electric, no water, and if winter, no heat. The rest of the pussified Amerikans got better things to do like, football.baseball,hockey, hunting, NASCAR, fishing, and most assuredly DRINKING> Sounds good and I'm sure you are well intentioned.but it would end up another ALAMO. you guys can't be serious - i have the eery feeling that NWO types have crawled into all the little patriot circles to infiltrate and bullshit, but i will try to be 'civil' :) please - try to be a little more challenging with criticisms ... this is a little silly. 1. rural counties are the SOURCE FOR FOOD. 2. rural counties have their SOURCE OF WATER. 3. the GULF COAST doesn't really need much heat. 4. 1000's of thugs from LAPD - GIVE ME A BREAK! police are trained to manage 2,3,4 people at most. this is totally outside their realm - they would all be basically useless in this kind of situtation.,
this is another attitude that worries me - because it accomplishes nothing in the restoration of anything, it simply accomplishes more of a police-state. this is just Mark Koernke crowd type bullshit. you don't just kill people and then end up with something good. that is not a strategy - it is a minor tactic. and it leaves people "blank" and without any real direction, and without any effectiveness. i don't believe any of these comments are serious. to change things, you need the SUPPORT OF THE PEOPLE, whether you like them or not. whether they are currently part of the problem or not. nothing can last that doesn't have the support of the PEOPLE. and all revolutions are about taking control of the rural areas - the areas of food production - because those are the areas which can be defended, and those are the areas that everything else relies on, and those are the areas that support the 'guerrillas' and defeat the tyrants, and those are the areas that benefit the most from detaching from govt controls, and those are the areas which one can quickly find support because they are the most plundered. basically, the whole rest of a nation is a leach on these reas - and as those areas go, so goes the nation. no criminal gang can last for long if the people want them dead. sooner or later, the will of the people puts an end to them. support of people in a county is easy with a few 100 people - and after several counties, it becomes easier and easier - and as prosperity grows in rural counties, it becomes the envy of the rest of the people, and then their support is had. that is how revolutions are won. it is this way in every case. the rural areas are at the top of the food chain. not the bottom.
I'm not sure I know where you're going but I understand why you're burnt out. No flame intended here, but I wasted countless hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars in an effort to 'get the word out.' At this point, I'd rather try and educate a car fender. I fluctuate between the acceptance and anger on grief continuum. My comment about the French resistance is meant for me, and me alone. How anyone else deals with these s'bags when they've had enough is their business.
it is a poor map. i apologize if i was wrong about it's location, i saw a map with the county on the east gulf coast - anyway, i don't think the choice should be publicized ahead of time - i only remembered Loving County because it was near the bottom of a list of several dozen counties in the USA with populations less than 1000. it can be found on the internet somewhere. the FSP project is looking for 20,000 people to SWAY A VOTE IN A CORRUPT GOVT - with 20,000 people, we could take over 20 counties and 1000's of square miles at the top of the food chain. this is PRACTICAL, LAWFUL, and IT CAN BE DONE with only a few 100 people! IT DON'T GET NO EASIER to restore Constitutional govt.
ind the lowest population county's here: http://www.jcsm.com/counties.asp
The problem is my family would never relocate. I would in a nanosecond, but not w/o my family. That we're scattered about the nation is a killer. The net is the only place I can come and 'speak' with others who get it. It blows afa an effective tool against the power, but I haven't a clue how to physically organize the few of us who get it.
It's an idea that makes a lot of sense. Where was it a month ago, before I got myself committed to long term business deal that I cannot back out on? :)
I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise. Rank State County Zip Pop Sq.Mi. 1 TX LOVING 48301 67 673.08 2 HI KALAWAO 15005 147 13.21 3 TX KING 48269 356 912.29 4 TX KENEDY 48261 414 1,456.77 5 NE ARTHUR 31005 444 715.37 6 MT PETROLEUM 30069 493 1,653.90 7 NE MCPHERSON 31117 533 858.98 8 CO SAN JUAN 530 558 9 NE BLAINE 31009 583 710.74 10 NE LOUP 31115 712 569.71 11 TX BORDEN 48033 729 898.80 12 NE THOMAS 31171 729 712.86 13 NE GRANT 31075 747 776.22 14 ND SLOPE 38087 767 1,217.94 15 NE LOGAN 31113 774 570.68 16 NE HOOKER 31091 783 721.17 17 CO HINSDALE 08053 790 1,117.68 18 NM HARDING 35021 810 2,125.34 19 NE BANNER 31007 819 746.22 20 CO MINERAL 08079 831 875.72 21 TX MCMULLEN 48311 851 1,113.00 22 TX KENT 48263 859 902.33 23 MT TREASURE 30103 861 978.86 24 NE WHEELER 31183 886 575.17 25 TX ROBERTS 48393 887 924.09 26 ND BILLINGS 38007 888 1,151.41 27 UT DAGGETT 49009 921 698.36 28 NV ESMERALDA 32009 971 3,588.50 29 NE KEYA PAHA 972 983 30 ID CAMAS 16025 991 1,074.96 31 ID CLARK 16033 1,022 1,764.63 32 MT GOLDEN VALLEY 1,041 1,042 33 MT WIBAUX 30109 1,068 889.31 34 NE HAYES 31085 1,068 713.11 35 TX TERRELL 48443 1,081 2,357.72 36 SD JONES 46075 1,193 970.52 37 MT PRAIRIE 30079 1,199 1,736.55 38 CA ALPINE 06003 1,208 738.62 39 MT GARFIELD 30033 1,279 4,668.06 40 SD HARDING 46063 1,353 2,670.50 41 MT CARTER 30011 1,360 3,339.57 42 TX STERLING 48431 1,393 923.36 43 TX GLASSCOCK 48173 1,406 900.75 44 TX MOTLEY 48345 1,426 989.38 45 UT PIUTE 49031 1,435 757.81 46 NE SIOUX 31165 1,475 2,066.59 47 KS GREELEY 20071 1,534 778.01 48 OR WHEELER 41069 1,547 1,714.92 49 SD SULLY 46119 1,556 1,006.90 50 CO JACKSON 08057 1,577 1,613.21
I'm stuck here for another 6 to 10 years now. Damn! Honestly, if I wouldn't be screwing other people, I'd be into this in a heartbeat.
I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise. i don't think "residence" requires "re-location". you can have many "residences". i don't know the details of every county's voting policy on the Office of Sheriff, but it may not require any major move to vote. it's likely that it won't.
i think you would only need to be "domiciled" in such a county if you wanted the protection from "govt employees". i think you can have a residence to qualify to vote and help in that way as well. i can imagine many people will want protection from "govt employees" (and be willing to stand for it) as the economy worsens, and many people find themselves in impossible situations.
Now that sounds like something I can get on board with.
I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise. a good post from another forum on the topic: The county seat is the most readily exercised power of the people and extends outward. I first understood this idea in the early 70's by association with Archibald E. Roberts, Lt. Col., AUS retired and his grassroots movement, Restore the Constitution. The object is to firmly take back the United States COUNTY by COUNTY towards the goal of taking back the state and the nation. Roberts was a hero and, as so many other great patriots, was greatly discounted or ignored by those who either wanted "change" on an immediate national scale without the due diligence of local responsibility or were agents of distraction. Thousands of people involved in this movement were greatly influenced, educated by the clear and simple manner of restoring our Constitution. The movement was hijacked by a small number of local czars who fed the "fear-of-infiltration and organization" ideas to an otherwise stalwart group of patriots. The movement died slowly as a result, the petty czars disappeared along with their political aspirations and a great number of citizens wondered why they had been unable to follow the simple plan they had begun. Roberts asked nothing, volunteering his time and money to help county committees get started. The plan was solid and timely. So why did it fail? Because a few loud voices (seven, as I recall) jeered down his sensible, grassroots plan at a Florida state-wide meeting in Orlando. Seven. Seven mockers who were already amassing the names of all attendees to that large gathering and were later used to attempt various petty political offices. We saw it in the hundreds of thousands who joined the RP Meet-ups and died slowly on the vine, isolated by the leadership of petty czars trying to worm their way into the corrupt political system. How many of our numbers are active now? Great, there are 100,000 on C4L but untold thousands are disillusioned with the great advance promised. We see that same monster today. Donation hungry web-sites offering little but sensational topics, chewing up time and money of honest patriots while deliberately refusing to do the one thing that will assure our goal....UNITY. Unity is NOT a large number of people signed on to one web-site or one leader. Unity is comprised of small groups of individuals within local counties who link up to each other VOLUNTARILY and have but one goal.....to Restore the Constitution. But as the people of old said to Samuel, "Give us a King". We don't want to do the work ourselves and certainly do we not wish to organize. "Give us a King." scream the disenchanted. We are a dumbed down society refusing wisdom that we know is true. New Hampshire? Not a Galt's Gulch. And all the John Galts out there are imitating what they cannot duplicate. A committment to the Revolution is not in keeping with the Rand philosophy. The Rand philosophy is the theoloy to Self whereas no meaningful Revolution has been won without sacrifice of the self to the higher purpose. To try to maintain loyalty to both is a disasterous course, an illusion chased in futility by those who lack the courage to committ and act responsibly for a cause that is more than self. My fellow patriots tire of hearing about organization and unity. Their ears are tickled by bravado and distraction. Have courage. Think clearly. You are on the right track. The local level is where the Revolution has its force. No one thinks this way. Ask yourself why.
I have been shopping for another cheap parcel in a safe place to escape to if need be. Maybe our county will have cheap land? :D Is this something that is or can be organized online, like the Free State project? The Free County Project? I can register a domain and put up a quick site for it. :)
I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise. You're very wise. And you'd better hurry hurry hurry up because we're HANGING IN SUSPENSE OVER THE ABYSS right NOW.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Those bastards travel the world over murdering people. AmeriKa will be a giant killing field for patriots that won't saddle up with the beast. You need to wake up neighbor. There is no law. NONE There is no court that cares. NONE You have your family, friends, and other patriots. MAYBE
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
I'll get on board with a strong and serious secession movement. Who knows ??
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
The movement died slowly as a result, the petty czars disappeared along with their political aspirations That's a apt description.
Perhaps "scattered" is safety. A core group with various safe locations isn't all that bad an idea.
Perhaps "scattered" is safety. A core group with various safe locations isn't all that bad an idea. you just need a few hundred people with various skills such as: 1. business 2. agriculture 3. ranching/animals then patriots in the number of about 150% of the current county population (a few hundred) needs to move in and establish themselves to vote for Sheriff, a Sheriff that you know will uphold unalienable rights to life, liberty, and property; as well as hold all govt employees accountable for exercising force over any other man/woman under the color-of-office/authority/law. you have to understand that only a public official, and not an employee, can exercise lawful authority; and you must understand that a Sheriffs highest responsibility is to preserve the peace. and it's good to have some law scholars that know all the tricks govt employees use to fake documents and fake their authority. i would imagine everyone would need 2-way radios on at all times, in case there is an event such as govt employees trying to kidnapp someone, or commit trespass. so that everyone can back up the Sheriff with force. the Sheriff must make sure he meets all the lawful requirements for a public official, and must demand proof-of-public-official of anyone else attempting to exercize authority over another man/woman. i think such a Sheriff should live on open land so he cannot be taken by surprise easily, and have a few 24/7 'bodyguards' as well, since he would be the man the govt would want to take out. but basically, it is that simple, nothing else has to change in the county. though it would be nice, but not necessary, to vote in a judge that thinks similarly. but note that no one would get before a judge unless the Sheriff put them there.
and also, he must not be the employee of a corporation - he must serve and work for the people - so everyone should send him $10/mo or $100/yr or something to pay for his service and work as a public official. it's also important to know that the supreme court has held that unalienable rights are unalienable - and you can't just sign them away in exchange to eternal servitude to some govt-employees.working for a corporation, and that a Sheriffs highest responsibility is to preserve the peace.
SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES 2 US 419 (February 1794) Chisholm v. Georgia Chief Justice: JAY, JOHN Argued: February 5, 1793 (1793 was a clerical error). Decided: February 18, 1793 (1794 was the correct date). '... at the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people, and they are truly the sovereigns of the country, but they are sovereigns without subjects, and have none to govern but themselves; the citizens of America are equal as fellow citizens, and as joint tenants in the sovereignty ... Sovereignty is the right to govern; a nation or State sovereign is the person or persons in whom that resides. In Europe, the sovereignty is generally ascribed to the Prince; here, it rests with the people; there, the sovereign actually administers the government; here, never in a single instance; our Governors are the agents of the people, and, at most, stand in the same relation to their sovereign in which regents in Europe stand to their sovereigns. Their Princes have personal powers, dignities, and preeminences; our rulers have none but official; nor do they partake in the sovereignty otherwise, or in any other capacity, than as private citizens.' http://i18rabbit.mybesthost.com/
i don't smell the meat of liberty cooking in the kitchen anymore ,,, just dessert pies made of stupid news with fear frosting.
#15. To: 2cb (#14)
#16. To: christine (#3)
are you aware of any city/county who is doing this yet?
#17. To: winston_smith (#16)
Free State Wyoming
#18. To: Rotara (#15)
#19. To: 2cb (#18)
#20. To: MING THE MERCILESS (#9)
I'm also game BUT who are you?
#21. To: winston_smith (#16)
are you aware of any city/county who is doing this yet?
#22. To: Rotara (#12)
Have you considered what the immediate response from state/fed/corp.gov would be?
#23. To: LACUMO (#2)
If we can just accomplish this with ONE COUNTY/500 people, it will begin to attract support and attention, and then there is a chance for other counties to follow.
#24. To: 2cb (#22)
#25. To: 2cb (#23)
i think there would be 1000's on our side - not so easy to squash. we would have THEM surrounded in such a matter. it would spread because it would be tax-free and prosperous, while the rest of the country is failing. it doesn't need to spread across the land like fire, it is sufficient for any county that takes such a stand to be able to hold it's ground. time and worsening conditions will take care of the rest.
#26. To: LACUMO (#25)
#27. To: 2cb, all (#4)
Loving County facts -
#28. To: All (#27)
#29. To: Jethro Tull (#26)
The French resistance had a motto; two Nazis for each Frenchman. Should the SHTF, do what you have to do, and don't worry about orders from headquarters.
#30. To: Rotara (#24)
Unfortunately, we're past the point of peaceful resistance.
#31. To: LACUMO (#25)
A thousand well intentioned people would be squashed very easily. They could use five or six thousand jack booted thugs from the NYPD, LAPD, or some other big city PD.
#32. To: Jethro Tull (#26)
The French resistance had a motto; two Nazis for each Frenchman. Should the SHTF, do what you have to do, and don't worry about orders from headquarters.
#33. To: 2cb (#32)
#34. To: lodwick (#28)
oving county appears to be in SWTexas, well inland, and not all that far from the RioGrande...
#35. To: Jethro Tull (#33)
#36. To: 2cb (#35)
#37. To: 2cb (#5)
Used Tires Schenectady, NY
#38. To: All (#35)
#39. To: 2cb (#38)
Used Tires Schenectady, NY
#40. To: Jethro Tull (#36)
The problem is my family would never relocate.
#41. To: Critter (#37)
It's an idea that makes a lot of sense. Where was it a month ago, before I got myself committed to long term business deal that I cannot back out on? :)
#42. To: 2cb (#40)
i don't think "residence" requires "re-location".
Used Tires Schenectady, NY
#43. To: All (#41)
#44. To: 2cb (#41)
i can imagine many people will want protection from "govt employees" (and be willing to stand for it) as the economy worsens, and many people find themselves in impossible situations.
Used Tires Schenectady, NY
#45. To: Critter (#44)
I have been shopping for another cheap parcel in a safe place to escape to if need be.
#46. To: 2cb (#41)
if you wanted the protection from "govt employees".
#47. To: Critter (#39)
Honestly, if I wouldn't be screwing other people, I'd be into this in a heartbeat.
#48. To: 2cb (#43)
isolated by the leadership of petty czars trying to worm their way into the corrupt political system
#49. To: Jethro Tull (#36)
I haven't a clue how to physically organize the few of us who get it.
#50. To: angle (#49)
I haven't a clue how to physically organize the few of us who get it.
#51. To: All (#50)
#52. To: All (#51)
#53. To: All (#52)
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