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Title: Why The Gun Is Civilization
Source: gunandgame.com
URL Source: http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/ccw/37877-why-gun-civilization.html
Published: Jun 10, 2007
Author: OXFORD
Post Date: 2008-12-23 20:33:20 by Itisa1mosttoolate
Keywords: None
Views: 327
Comments: 30

My nephew, a Kansas State Trooper, sent me the following essay this morning. Thought it was well worth posting here.

Ox -----

Forwarded By Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret)

Finally. . . A statement about guns that makes a lot of sense.

Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it.

In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force. The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single gay guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.

There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat--it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed. People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.

Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser. People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level. The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.

When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation...and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.

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#1. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force. The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single gay guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.

I beg to differ. I also find it ironic that this comes from a punk with a badge.

He's forgetting about having a willingness to use deadly force to kill. That seems to be a rather important variable in this equation. They are NOT on equal footing just because they are armed.

When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force.

Ya think so? Do you have a magical gun? What a dumbass this guy is. Typical, for a pig.

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PSUSA  posted on  2008-12-23   20:51:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: PSUSA (#1)

He's forgetting about having a willingness to use deadly force to kill. That seems to be a rather important variable in this equation.

Hi Itisa1mosttoolate,

Why not place a sign in your yard "will provide no resistance to Rapist, Burglars or Murderers"? lol And yes.., my FIREARM is truly magical when employed against Criminal Elements equipped with equal or lesser force (firepower).

Please enjoy the following quotes for additional edification (or instruction by way of humiliation if you will):

"Cowards die many times before their deaths. The valiant never taste of death but once." from the play Julius Caesar by William Shakespeare.

"Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." -Luke 22:36

"This survival of the fittest, implies multiplication of the fittest." "This survival of the fittest... is that which Mr. Darwin has called 'natural selection, or the preservation of favoured races in the struggle for life'."

Yours in Observing Some People Destined to Go The Way of the Dodo,

P.H.

PatrickHenry  posted on  2008-12-24   9:49:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: PatrickHenry, All (#2)

You pinged me so I will respond to that.

You said:

Why not place a sign in your yard "will provide no resistance to Rapist, Burglars or Murderers"? lol And yes.., my FIREARM is truly magical when employed against Criminal Elements equipped with equal or lesser force (firepower).

Chest thumping is unseemly and just fucking silly. But it does seem to be common among the Keyboard Kommando set, kids, and punk cops. Try that shit with someone intent on killing you and see what happens. Your only hope is if he dies laughing.

Your firearm is as magical as a fucking hammer. It's just a tool, not a magic wand. It fires a projectile powered by smokeless powder, not pixie dust.

Now, "Patrick Henry"... great amerikan patriot, where oh where did I ever say that there should be no resistance? You take it lightly, and it is deadly serious.

Dont play with me, asshole. I guarantee you wont win.

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PSUSA  posted on  2008-12-24   11:31:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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"...just fucking silly." -PSUSA "...Try that shit.." -PSUSA "...as a fucking hammer" -PSUSA "Dont play with me, asshole.." -PSUSA

Hi PSUSA,

It's been my experience that "vulgarians" such as yourself are so for lack of sound/fundamental communication skills (public skooling..lol). This being said, did you have a point other than threatening me?

Yours in Inquiring "What Rock Did You Crawl Out From Under" and "How Long Ago Did You Learn to Walk Upright"..?lol,

P.H.

PatrickHenry  posted on  2008-12-25   12:41:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#30. To: PatrickHenry (#29)

It's been my experience that "vulgarians" such as yourself blah blah blah

It's my experience that when people take on the names of other more famous patriots they are compensating. You think you are another Patrick Henry? Now that's worthy of a LOL!

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