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Title: The COMMUNIST FOUNDERS of the ACLU!
Source: angelfire
URL Source: http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/stokjok/Founders.html
Published: Dec 24, 2008
Author: anglfire (?)
Post Date: 2008-12-24 14:14:29 by Itisa1mosttoolate
Keywords: None
Views: 214
Comments: 9

The COMMUNIST FOUNDERS of the ACLU!

Are you living in denial? Don't believe the ACLU was founded by a bunch of 'REDS'! But it was, and here is the proof! History speaks for itself, and the facts are lined up against the ACLU!

Roger Baldwin

Roger Baldwin, the first director of the ACLU, was also a communist. He explains in his book, Liberty Under the Soviets, "I joined. I don’t regret being a part of the Communist tactic, which increased the effectiveness of a good cause. I knew what I was doing. I was not an innocent liberal. I wanted what the Communists wanted…” Roger Baldwin - Founded the ACLU in 1920. Several crucial leaders of the ACLU were members of the Communist Party. Earl Browder, then General Secretary of the Communist Party, said the ACLU functioned as "a transmission belt" for the party. Baldwin also stated “We are for SOCIALISM, disarmament, and ultimately for abolishing the state itself... We seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and the SOLE CONTROL of those who produce wealth. COMMUNISM is the goal.” (source: http://dianedew.com/aclu.htm)

William Z. Foster

William Z. Foster, then National Chairman of the Communist Party USA and an ACLU co-founder, is famous for this 1932 quote: "The establishment of an American Soviet government will involve the confiscation of large landed estates in town and country, and also, the whole body to forests, mineral deposits, lakes, rivers and so on." He was the author of Toward Soviet America.

A.J. Muste

A. J. Muste held a degree from Union Theological Seminary. When war broke out in Europe, he became a pacifist, inspired by the Christian mysticism of the Quakers, and started working with the fledging American Civil Liberties Union in Boston. In 1929 Muste helped form the Conference for Progressive Labor Action (CPLA), seeking to reform the AF of L from within. When the Depression broke like a storm over America, the CPLA became openly revolutionary and was instrumental in forming the American Workers Party in 1933--a "democratically organized revolutionary party" in which A.J. played the leading role.

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#1. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

aclu

grrrrrrr

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-24   14:15:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

What leftist organization wasn't founded by Communists and/or sexual perverts?

Have gun, will travel.

Turtle  posted on  2008-12-24   14:18:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Turtle (#2)

What leftist organization wasn't founded by Communists and/or sexual perverts?

And what 'rightist organization' wasn't eventually infiltrated and compromised by same ??

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-24   14:19:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Rotara (#3)

And what 'rightist organization' wasn't eventually infiltrated and compromised by same ??

Turtle's Treehouse/Cave.

Have gun, will travel.

Turtle  posted on  2008-12-24   14:23:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Turtle (#4)

hehehehe

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-24   14:23:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Turtle, Rotara (#2)

We're all on the same page.

Thank God

real-debt-elimination

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-12-24   14:24:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#6)

Now or never. Merry Christmas and a blessed New Year to you and yours.

I believe the blessings of '09 and from here on out will be more obvious and appreciated as we go forward. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-24   14:30:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Rotara (#7)

Same to you and yours.

Remember this CHRISTmas

real-debt-elimination

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-12-24   14:35:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Turtle (#2)

Leftists are socialists, rightists (today's bunch) are communists.

Liberals are people who are under the only partially mistaken impression that altering the structure of government is the best way to influence people and resources. Conservatives are people who are under the only partially mistaken impression that altering the people in power is the best way to influence other people and their culture.

To put it more simply: Liberals want the decision to be spread out among more people, preferably everyone; conservatives want the decision to be made by as few people as possible, preferably just one.

Socialism is liberal. More people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the economy works. Democracy is liberal.

Communism is conservative. Fewer and fewer people have any say in how the economy works. Republicans are conservative. Fewer and fewer people (preferably just people controlling the Party figurehead) have any say in how the government works. The conservatives in the US are in the same position as the communists in the 30s, and for the same reason: Their revolutions failed spectacularly but they refuse to admit what went wrong.

A common mistake is to confuse Socialism, the economic system, with Communism, the political system. Communists are "socialist" in the same way that Republicans are "compassionate conservatives". That is, they give lip service to ideals they have no intention of practicing.

Marxism became Marxist-Leninism which became Stalinism. "The term Stalinism was used by anti-Soviet Marxists, particularly Trotskyists, to distinguish the policies of the Soviet Union from those they regard as more true to Marxism. Trotskyists argue that the Stalinist USSR was not socialist, but a bureaucratized degenerated workers state that is, a state in which exploitation is controlled by a ruling caste which, while it did not own the means of production and was not a social class in its own right, accrued benefits and privileges at the expense of the working class."

Communists defending Stalin were driven by Cognitive Dissonance. "The existence of dissonance, being psychologically uncomfortable, motivates the person to reduce the dissonance and leads to avoidance of information likely to increase the dissonance." They didn't want to hear any criticism, and would go out of their way to deny facts. The abrupt betrayal of ideals by Lenin and Marx left many socialists clinging to the Soviet Union even though they knew Stalin was a disaster. They called themselves Communist even though they espoused none of Stalin's viewpoints and very few of Lenin's revisionism. In Russia, Lenin remains a Hero of the Revolution. Despite having screwed things up in the first place, Stalin is revered by Communists for toppling the Third Reich.

Conservatives defending George W. Bush are in the same situation as Communists defending Stalin. Stalin was never a "socialist" and Bush was never a "compassionate conservative", but the conservatives just don't want to hear any criticism and will go out of their way to deny facts.

Reagan, like Lenin revising Marx, was governor of California didn't practice fiscal restraint. And when he was elected president in 1980 he did the exact opposite of his campaign promise and triple the deficit and there has been "no fiscal and economic stability" since his flip-flop. Fiscal restraint was never implemented. Abrupt betrayal of ideals of Reagan when he got into power left many conservatives clinging to the Republican party even though they espoused none of Reagan's new policies. Despite screwing things up in the first place, Reagan remains a Hero of the Revolution and is revered by conservatives for toppling the Soviet Union.

Reagan isn't Lenin and Bush isn't Stalin, but the parallels are notable. George W. Bush, like Stalin, inherits a failed revolution that relies on a cult-like worship of his predecessors and a complete denial of the facts.

Wikipedia's quote. "Stalinism is a state in which exploitation is controlled by a ruling caste.... at the expense of the working class." Most of the Republicans/conservatives/dittoheads are basically good people, but they're gullible fools who have spent more than 20 years burying themselves in lies needed to resolve the cognitive dissonance created by Reagan's betrayal. Reagan called the Soviet Union an "evil empire", but as we've seen it wasn't much of an empire and most of the people in it aren't particularly evil. Khrushchev repudiated Stalin after he died in 1953, but wasn't strong enough to change the system or the cult worship that kept the dictatorship alive. Republicans need to repudiate Reagan, but there is no one out there who has the guts to tell the truth. The GOP is reduced to whining, flag-waving and outright lying. The shame of being a conservative has never been greater.

The Difference Between Socialism and Communism and the cognitive dissonance created by Lenin and Reagan

Dave Romm, The Heartland Project - 2004

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-12-24   15:38:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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