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Title: The mentality of the Obama voter
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URL Source: http://www.newswithviews.com/Stuter/stuter135.htm
Published: Dec 24, 2008
Author: Lynn Sutter
Post Date: 2008-12-24 14:26:32 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 435
Comments: 44

Over the past month, I’ve written several articles concerning the (s)election of Barack Hussein Obama as president of the United States and his eligibility to that office:

The (S)election of Comrade Obama 11-11-08 Is Obama eligible to the office of president? 11-25-08 That déjà vu feeling 12-2-08 America’s rogue usurper-in-chief 12-9-08 The ramifications of the SCOTUS inaction 12-16-08

The probability that Barack Hussein Obama is not eligible to the office of president as he is not a natural-born citizen as required by Article II, Section 1, United States Constitution, grows with each passing day that he refuses to produce his vault copy Hawaii birth certificate. For a man who promised open government and transparency during his campaign, Obama has spent an inordinate amount of money and time trying to keep from having to produce his vault copy Hawaii birth certificate.

I received an e-mail the other day, from an individual who did not identify himself/herself. The e-mail simply arrived from Alex33053@....; no subject identified. For the purposes here, we shall identify this e-mailer as “Alex” of the male gender. Alex’s e-mail message:

Don't you know that God is about to destroy America because of her sins?

He is only using Obama to do what HE wants.

"Batman and Robin" could have been elected, it would not have mattered. You need to get over it a(nd) realize that God is in control. He is directing this ship, and just like the Titanic, who many said "God himself could not sink", America and everyone here, is going into a time of trouble that has never been seen before (Matt. 24)

Even if McCain had won, it would not matter. I wonder would you and others would be this upset about him? I wonder if it really is a race issue with you. Do you know what it is like to be black? No! So what Obama knows different people? What's wrong with the Black Panthers? You have no problem with the KKK! Give me a break!

White people have had control for over 200 years in this county and now it's time to pay the piper. It is only fitting that the hand God will use to "flush the toilet" is the hand of someone who's people have been held down for so long. IT'S ABOUT TIME JUSTICE BE SERVED.

Sadly, this is the mentality of too many of the black people who voted for Barack Hussein Obama. This individual truly believes that Barack Hussein Obama is going to punish white people in the name of black people; it is very apparent this is why he voted for Obama.

This individual grew up in the United States. And his ignorance is testament to the failure of government schools to properly educate children. That situation has been on a steady downhill slide since education transformation came into being, full force, in the late 1980’s/early 1990’s. Education is no longer about producing an intelligent, well-educated child; education is about producing an illiterate worker, and the government schools are churning them out year after year. As one small business owner put it, “They don’t know anything; don’t know they don’t know anything; but they sure can tell you how they feel about everything!” Truer words were never spoken.

This is why the Founding Fathers gave the federal government no authority in the area of education; knowing full well that if authority were given, the federal government would use that authority to promote an agenda that was in its own best interests but not in the best interests of the people. The U.S. Department of Education, established under Jimmy Carter, is an unconstitutional entity.

At what point do you supposed Alex will realize that Barack Hussein Obama led him down the rosy path of his own enslavement?

Will it be four years from now when Alex suddenly realizes that conditions have gotten worse instead of better for black people under the aegis of Barack Hussein Obama; the “man with the plan”; the man who was going to “change” America; the man who is going to “spread the wealth around a little”; the man who spouts nebulous “hope” at every turn?

Or will it be when Alex loses his job because Barack Hussein Obama’s plan of change is Marxist in construct, therefore anti-free market which is the only system under which our economy can be or will be resuscitated?

Does Alex really and truly believe that Barack Hussein Obama is going to punish white people in the name of black people? One has to wonder how Alex can look at the likes of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and not realize these men are leaches whose livelihood depends on keeping their own people believing they do not have equal opportunity.

Linda Bentley of Sonoran News had this to say about Alex’s e-mail:

Apparently social and economic justice only means the shoe being on the other foot, not being considered equal or treating people as equals, as they expect and demand of whitey. There's a fear of losing one's status as a victim. Reverend Wright and Jesse Jackson would be standing in the unemployment line if blacks were to admit they already have equality of opportunity and simply need to exercise it.

Obama rising to the presidency isn't enough, they want him to hate and punish white folks for them too.

Sandra has this message for Alex:

So GOD will be flushing the toilet?

I assume that means the hated rotten whites will be flushed.

If that is true, who else will be flushed with them? Did you ever think about that?

And what about those blacks in Africa who captured their fellow blacks to sell them into slavery. Do you even know about that?

I had a friend from N Jersey, a little over 20 years ago. We worked together on a software project. My friend Hamon (Ham) did resent that blacks had been denied many opportunities. And for his vacation he had planned a month's vacation in Africa. (I don't remember now which country.)

When Ham came back early from that trip he had a totally different outlook. He told me many of the things that had happened to him and the group of seven he went with. The stories were horrific. They lost two of their group to tribal warfare they got caught in. All seven were black American males who were all into information technology and very, very sharp.

After all was over, Ham told me something he said he had NEVER thought he would even think, much less say aloud. Ham said when the remaining five who were still alive finally found a way to get out of there, he thought: "anything that got us out of that hell-hole of a continent, even slavery, was a God-given opportunity."

After two of his buddies were killed quite savagely by machete-wielding tribesman, he decided that the USA was great and that if he and blacks had to work a little harder or a bit longer that it was far, far preferable to wanton massacre by any tribe or war lord.

So tell me, where do you think you would have a better life? Will any other nation give you as fair a deal as you have here in USA?

Maybe you say some whites are still prejudiced. Yes I am sure that is true. Aren't some blacks also just as prejudiced? You just proved it when you quoted the Bible but then said that whites would pay. So you are the racist to want one group to pay based only on their skin color. Go look in a mirror and honestly see what you are.

The desires of ML King have come to fruition. A black or any other person can rise in the US via education and hard work. That is more true than in any other nation on this planet.

So if that toilet flushes, and after you have a victory dance, then tell me what is left? I know enough blacks to know they do NOT trust their own in many fields. Will it be elections via personality as blacks have traditionally done---vs---elect the best, least corrupt, most qualified on the solid basis of their past?

Obama was just elected based on color and personality. He promised CHANGE. Do you know what change? He never spelled that out. Do you know what our country will be like when he is done? He never spelled that out.

Well take a good long look at Chicago politics and socialist leaders. That is where he learned and those kind of changes will damage everyone in this country, not just whites.

When that toilet flushes, it will flush ALL citizens of this nation.

Alex assumes I have no problem with the KKK. His logic is flawed and goes something like this: A: you are white; B: Klansmen are white; therefore C: you have no problem with the KKK. I’ve got news for Alex: I have the same disdain for the KKK that I do for the Black Panthers, for the Aryan Brotherhood, and for the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) and Morris Dees. From where I stand, they all have the same agenda: destroying freedom; destroying America; destroying the Constitution and Bill of Rights. The list of organizations that join the brotherhood of being anti-American and anti-Constitution is a long one; these are just representative of the diversity of that group. Obama’s pet organization, ACORN, is on that list, too.

And I’ve some really bad news for Alex: Obama is not nearly as black as he would like Alex to think. While Obama calls himself “black”, he is, courtesy his mother, 50% white; the other 50%, courtesy his father, is not exclusively “black”. Some claim that Obama is, at most, 6.25% black Kenyan; that the remainder is Arabic; that Obama is descended of African slave traders.

And whether Barack Hussein Obama is black, brown, white, green, purple, orange, some combination thereof, or whatever is of little matter; what does matter is whether he is eligible to the office of president under Article II, Section 1, United States Constitution. And had McCain, born in the Panama Canal Zone, been elected on November 4, 2008, the question would have been the same. Interesting that two men, both of questionable eligibility, rose to the level of nomination for their respective parties during the same election cycle. Coincidence? There are no coincidences in politics. The only difference between Obama and McCain being that had McCain been (s)elected, he would have become the target of the mainstream media while the mainstream media has carefully avoided the issue with Barack Hussein Obama because he claims to be black and, therefore, is untouchable. How better to destroy the last vestiges of the U.S. Constitution than have an ineligible black president-elect sworn in because no-one in a position to address the issue has the fortitude or integrity to stand up for the Constitution? Just mention the eligibility question to the Congress-Critters in DC and you will see them start scurrying like rats in a sewer after someone flushes! They are quick to claim Obama is eligible but they’ve seen not one shred of evidence that he is, and they certainly have no intention of demanding that he produce it! It becomes obvious that they view their oath of office to protect and defend the Constitution as nothing more than an inconvenient formality that isn’t to be taken seriously! Do these Critters truly believe they can continue to spit on the very document that guarantees their freedom and not pay the price?

Beyond the question of Obama’s eligibility is the fact that Barack Hussein Obama is a Marxist, a philosophy antithetical to the life, liberty and pursuit of happiness of every American no matter their ethnicity or heritage; just as McCain is a fascist, an off-shot of Marxism that is just as antithetical to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. It was Fascist Bush who quipped that the Constitution was just a “g-d piece of paper.” It was also Fascist Bush who quipped that “we are fighting Islamo-Fascists.” The pot calling the kettle black.

In his final missive, Alex stated, in part,

You still got to deal with Obama no matter what.

Every red-blooded American, Alex included, had better hope that those of us fighting to save the Constitution win the day. If we don’t, every red-blooded American, Alex included, is going to suffer oppression like they have never before known. As Sandra stated, when that toilet flushes, it will flush ALL citizens of this nation … Alex included! Will this be the point at which Alex comes to the realization he’s been deceived on purpose?

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#1. To: christine (#0)

Every black in the U.S. and indeed the world should thank God the white man existed to drag the world up from 20,000 B.C.

Have gun, will travel.

Turtle  posted on  2008-12-24   14:32:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine (#0)

Even if McCain had won, it would not matter.

True and by design, the Globalists cover their bases well

I wonder would you and others would be this upset about him?

This tool doesn't get out much.

I wonder if it really is a race issue with you.

Herr Dumb Ass, obamalamadingdong is less than 10% african negro.

Do you know what it is like to be black? No!

My black patriot friends do and they laugh at you.

So what Obama knows different people?

You're too f**king stupid and trapped in the H.D. to take seriously but I'll complete this post anyway.

What's wrong with the Black Panthers?

Good Lord

You have no problem with the KKK!

I did until NOW !!!

Give me a break!

Soon enough !!

White people have had control for over 200 years in this county and now it's time to pay the piper.

Yeah, GREAT ! Zimbabwe/South Africa/Failed Continent here we come ?? !!

It is only fitting that the hand God will use to "flush the toilet" is the hand of someone who's people have been held down for so long. IT'S ABOUT TIME JUSTICE BE SERVED.

Too stupid to be allowed to reproduce comes to mind.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-24   14:41:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Rotara (#2)

My black patriot friends do and they laugh at you.

mine too. it's not the color. it's the values.

christine  posted on  2008-12-24   15:15:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine (#0)

"Mental..?" Works for me.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-12-24   15:44:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: who knows what evil, christine, rotara, lodwick (#4)

The lefties that are giving him a pass because of his color will wake up soon enough.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2008-12-24   16:12:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: christine (#0)

White people have had control for over 200 years in this country...

...and we can thank Ted Kennedy for bringing the grand experiment to an ignominous end thanks to his turd-world immigration policies that have been supported by ruinous tyrants posing as presidents since 1965.

This sorry jerk only has to look at Rhodesia, South Africa, even Detroit, to see what happens when white people "share power" with blacks: anarchy, disease, and the general decay of Western Civilization.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-12-24   16:19:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: X-15 (#6)

This sorry jerk only has to look at Rhodesia, South Africa, even Detroit, to see what happens when white people "share power" with blacks: anarchy, disease, and the general decay of Western Civilization.

People that live in something called the 'Kennedy Compound' off the coast of Massachusetts probably aren't too concerned about that...

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-12-24   17:27:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: christine (#0)

Great article - thank you.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2008-12-24   17:45:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: redpanther (#0)

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition


"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx

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RUN SILENT, RUN DEEP

IndieTX  posted on  2008-12-24   22:52:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: christine, Weasel Mike, Ferret Mike, aristeides, Robin, Tom007, Arete, O'bots, Dupes, Suckers, Fools, Marks, Dopes, Schlimiels, Rubes, Chumps, Pigeons, Saps, Tools, Ninnies, All (#0)

Every red-blooded American, Alex included, had better hope that those of us fighting to save the Constitution win the day. If we don’t, every red-blooded American, Alex included, is going to suffer oppression like they have never before known. As Sandra stated, when that toilet flushes, it will flush ALL citizens of this nation … Alex included! Will this be the point at which Alex comes to the realization he’s been deceived on purpose?

Calling All O'bots!

Calling All O'bots!

Attention All O'bots!

You been had Dude/Dudette.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-24   23:50:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve, Jethro Tull, lodwick, ALL, EVERYONE, EXCEPT OCONS and OTHER WORLD SOCIALIST SCUM, ALLY'ALL, Merry Christmas (#10)

Merry Christmas, rich blessings to you and yours.

I pray we will be victorious for America and be celebrating together this time next year.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-25   0:13:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: X-15, Christine (#6) (Edited)

This sorry jerk only has to look at Rhodesia, South Africa, even Detroit, to see what happens when white people "share power" with blacks: anarchy, disease, and the general decay of Western Civilization

America has become nothing more than a colony of Israel. Zionists control both major parties and they will not permit a loyal American to run for higher office, up to and including the president. Jews are the problem, not the mentality of the voters.

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2008-12-25   0:59:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Zoroaster (#12)

America has become nothing more than a colony of Israel. Zionist control both major parties and they will not permit a loyal American to run for higher office, up to and including the president. Jews are the problem, not the mentality of the voters.

Your focus is just a little too narrow to be effective.

The mentality of the voters is obviously dumbed down communist hand out - world order domination.

They played right into the cabal's hand.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-25   1:05:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Christine, ALL (#0)

THE MENTALITY OF THE OBAMA VOTER (NON EDUMAKATID END OF SPECTRUM?)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-25   1:13:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Rotara (#14)

Is Obama going to put gas in her car or pay her mortgage? Government is going to take care of her.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2008-12-25   1:16:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Rotara (#13)

Your focus is just a little too narrow to be effective.

Apparently you've learned nothing from Russian history.

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2008-12-25   1:22:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Rotara, TwentyTwelve, Wudidiz, farmfriend, Scrapper2, Jethro Tull, lodwick, ALL (#11)

Merry Christmas, rich blessings to you and yours.

I pray we will be victorious for America and be celebrating together this time next year.

I wish All and in particular you Worthy Good Sir a Merry and Joyous Christmas.

We'll be here next year.

The fight won't be over but I think we will make progress in the coming year.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-25   1:27:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Zoroaster (#16)

Your focus is just a little too narrow to be effective.

Apparently you've learned nothing from Russian history.

Not true.

I've spent thousands of hours researching this; I'm just saying that if Israel and the golden calf jew world orderists were all to disappear tomorrow, you'd still have the same problems to deal with.

London, Brussels, Beijing, Moscow, Berlin, Paris, Riyadh and more have a large stake in this pot.

Not just AmeriKa and Israel.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-25   1:27:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Original_Intent (#17)

The fight won't be over but I think we will make progress in the coming year.

You're very kind, thank you.

I do believe things are going to turn on a dime; it's getting to that boiling point !

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-25   1:28:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Zoroaster, Rotara (#12)

America has become nothing more than a colony of Israel. Zionists control both major parties and they will not permit a loyal American to run for higher office, up to and including the president. Jews are the problem, not the mentality of the voters.

And the Zionists are themselves tools of the Banking interests dominated by the Rotchilds.

Zionism is a Racist, Marxist, and exclusivist ideology, but that is used as a tool to keep the "little Jews" under the thumb of the "BIG Jews" who prey upon all; Jew and Gentile alike.

Yes Israeli interests are dominating and perverting our government, BUT they are in turn controlled by the Kaballistic Occultists such as the Rotchilds.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-25   1:33:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Original_Intent (#20)

I'm going to have another eggnog+.

Fable Enemies got me stirred up !!

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-25   1:34:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Rotara (#19)

The fight won't be over but I think we will make progress in the coming year.

You're very kind, thank you.

I do believe things are going to turn on a dime; it's getting to that boiling point !

Our opposition is brittle and without flexibility. Duh! :-) They are after all psychotic, and it is one of the characteristics of a psychotic that they will keep coming, and coming, and coming, and when faced with unwavering opposition that does not collapse from their attacks their psychoses turns on them and they in turn collapse. That is exactly what will happen. We are not quite to the Critical Threshold yet, but we are getting there. Once we cross that threshold, and they realize it, they will fold like a cheap suit in a rain storm.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-25   1:37:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Rotara (#21)

I'm going to have another eggnog+.

Fable Enemies got me stirred up !!

And I am going to go set up the bread machine so I have a nice fresh loaf of bread for me in the morning. :-)

Cheers!

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-25   1:39:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Original_Intent (#22)

Once we cross that threshold, and they realize it, they will fold like a cheap suit in a rain storm.

Unfortunately, I believe we might see false flag nukes or EMPs set off and Martial Law declared with all kinds of troops (including foreign) in our cities and neighborhoods once we do.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-25   1:40:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Original_Intent (#23)

Now that sounds good !

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-25   1:41:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Original_Intent (#20)

You'll get no argument from me, though it's difficult to predict what will happen in the near future. Welcome to hard times America.

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2008-12-25   1:42:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Rotara (#24)

Once we cross that threshold, and they realize it, they will fold like a cheap suit in a rain storm.

Unfortunately, I believe we might see false flag nukes or EMPs set off and Martial Law declared with all kinds of troops (including foreign) in our cities and neighborhoods once we do.

That is why this is a delicate dance. We have to string it out until their options are foreclosed. That is why a frontal assault by force is likely to fail. Rather than surrender power they would take all of us down with them. They are, after all, quite nuts. People miss that because they have "good Tailors", and can mouth the right platitudes. The breaking point is reached when a significant enough number of people in the power chain realize just how really nuts these clowns are and start subverting their orders and giving false reports that they have been carried out. The nutcases at the top get isolated and they are not capable of doing anything if too many of their minions go into quiet revolt.

Now I am going to make that loaf of bread.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-25   1:46:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Zoroaster (#26)

You'll get no argument from me, though it's difficult to predict what will happen in the near future. Welcome to hard times America.

I think the next year is going to be very turbulent, but I am guessing, just based on the way things are unfolding, that much of the worst of it will be done by September. We'll just have to wait, observe, and see how it unfolds.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-25   1:49:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Original_Intent, rotara (#22)

They are after all psychotic,

I've got a guy on another forum telling me that the Builderberger group is just ordinary businessmen doing what ordinary businessmen do. Right.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2008-12-25   2:56:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: farmfriend (#29)

I've got a guy on another forum telling me that the Builderberger group is just ordinary businessmen doing what ordinary businessmen do. Right.

You might have a paid Globalist tool on your hands there.

Or, just another RNC sheep working nights as a janitor for the US Chamber of Quislings. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-25   3:06:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Rotara (#30)

Or, just another RNC sheep

that's what I figure. He claims to have studied it a lot. Maybe he has but you know how people only see what they want to see.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2008-12-25   3:11:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: farmfriend (#31)

He claims to have studied it a lot. Maybe he has but you know how people only see what they want to see.

Let's just go with he has 'studied it a lot'.

Ask him to show you what he used for studies.

Let's test a) the veracity of that statement and b) how those sources could lead any person that is not DUMBER than a chimpanzee to conclude that the Bilderberg society of world government desiring elites isn't working in harmony to those ends.

(sorry that was so long, i'm just getting my second wind here !!!)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-25   3:23:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: ALL (#32)

I would also not be surprised to hear you say that he/she/it believes "911 Official Story®".

I've discovered that the world socialists deeply infiltrated both the 911 Truth current as well as the Ron Paul campaign.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-25   3:25:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Original_Intent (#27)

The breaking point is reached when a significant enough number of people in the power chain realize just how really nuts these clowns are and start subverting their orders and giving false reports that they have been carried out. The nutcases at the top get isolated and they are not capable of doing anything if too many of their minions go into quiet revolt.

Excellent observation, and very well put. Kudos. Merry Christmas.

Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2008-12-25   3:32:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Rotara (#33)

would also not be surprised to hear you say that he/she/it believes "911 Official Story®".

I believe that is the case. On occasion he has tried to paint me with the dismissive conspiracy brush.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2008-12-25   3:34:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: farmfriend (#35)

On occasion he has tried to paint me with the dismissive conspiracy brush.

Not good enough. Too many facts as well the predictability combined with tangible arrogance these days to let that ride.

You might well have a yukon-level shill on your hands. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-25   3:40:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Rotara (#36)

You might well have a yukon-level shill on your hands. ;-)

LOL! I think he is just a retired GOP loyalist. You know the lesser of two evils type. But you had to bring up Yukon. That asswipe.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2008-12-25   4:14:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: farmfriend, Yukon (#37)

up Yukon. That asswipe.

I agree. I think he works for warry qwaig. Wide Stance Globalist

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-25   4:26:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Original_Intent (#20)

And the Zionists are themselves tools of the Banking interests dominated by the Rotchilds.

One and the same, OI.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-12-25   12:53:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Original_Intent (#27)

We have to string it out until their options are foreclosed. That is why a frontal assault by force is likely to fail. Rather than surrender power they would take all of us down with them.

I totally agree. People ought to refuse the bait.

"Wherever a Knave is not punished, an honest Man is laugh'd at." -- George Savile (1633-1695)
"Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth." -- Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2008-12-25   13:13:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: christine (#0)

I’ve got news for Alex: I have the same disdain for the KKK that I do for the Black Panthers, for the Aryan Brotherhood, and for the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) and Morris Dees. From where I stand, they all have the same agenda: destroying freedom; destroying America; destroying the Constitution and Bill of Rights. The list of organizations that join the brotherhood of being anti-American and anti-Constitution is a long one; these are just representative of the diversity of that group. Obama’s pet organization, ACORN, is on that list, too.

Amen! I also despise the groups mentioned here. And none more than the SPLC. The only thing Morris Dees and his cohorts have any "poverty" in is ideas and intellect. Poverty pimps and race baiters--I despise the lot of them.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-12-25   15:06:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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