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Title: Brown Berets oppose Minutemen
Source: KRGVTV
URL Source: http://krgv.com/2005/7/27/3753/Brown-Berets-oppose-Minutemen-
Published: Jul 27, 2005
Author: unknown
Post Date: 2005-07-28 00:20:14 by robin
Keywords: Minutemen, Berets, oppose
Views: 287
Comments: 37

Brown Berets oppose Minutemen

Wednesday, July 27, 2005 Posted: 05:52 PM

WESLACO -- Members of the activist group the Brown Berets were in the Valley to express their opposition to the controversial Minuteman Project.

WESLACO – Minutemen may face more opposition in South Texas. Members of the Brown Berets were in town Wednesday to spread a message.

The group of militant Chicanos popular back in the 1960s said their group is still active in the Rio Grande Valley, addressing perceived threats to the Mexican-American community.

This time, Delgado said they are in the Valley to confront the Minutemen, who plan on patrolling the border in search of illegal immigrants. Pablo Delgado, prime minister of the Brown Berets, leads more than 1,000 members of the Brown Berets. The name came from the color of berets members wore in the 1960s and 1970s.

“We monitor the system,” Delgado said. “When there is a threat to the Mexican-American community we are there.”

Members of Hidalgo County’s Democratic Party who also oppose the Minuteman Project welcomed the Brown Berets with open arms.

“They communicated to me there sincere intent in organized confrontation a physical confrontation against the minutemen,” said the county’s Democratic party chairman Juan Maldonado.

Beret leader Delgado said the group does not get physical unless it have to -- but he has been shot twice. That, he said, is the reason members no longer wear the famed berets.

“If we use the brown beret we will be a target,” Delgado explained.

Marcia Martinez is also a member of the Brown Berets. She said although the group is not as popular as they once were, they are still strong.

“"The Brown Berets deserve respect, because few very few people have knowledge about us...and secondly people don't speak up in what they believe anymore,” Martinez said.

Delgado said he has fought for 40 years for his people. He added he plans to fight as long as he is alive.

Delgado said if the Minutemen make their way to the Valley, the Brown Berets will be there to greet them. (1 image)

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#1. To: robin (#0)

Pablo Delgado, prime minister

Is that a step up or a step down from "General Supremo"?

Tauzero  posted on  2005-07-28   0:39:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: robin (#0)

YertleTurtle  posted on  2005-07-28   8:08:51 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: robin (#0)

You know, I can understand these various radical groups opposing the MM, after all they want to destroy this nation. What bothers me more is the ‘bots who demand we keep our doors open. They’re traitors pure and simple.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-07-28   8:15:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: YertleTurtle (#2)

This is closer to the truth.


Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?

Flintlock  posted on  2005-07-28   8:17:22 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: robin (#0)

We get closer and closer to violent civil war..

Lady X  posted on  2005-07-28   8:59:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Lady X (#5)

We get closer and closer to violent civil war..

That's what I was thinking.

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-07-28   9:17:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: robin (#0)

"The Brown Berets deserve respect, because few very few people have knowledge about us...and secondly people don't speak up in what they believe anymore," Martinez said.

Martinez is not the brightest bulb in the house.

"A man is no less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new master once in a term of years." ~~Lysander Spooner

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-07-28   10:20:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Lady X (#5)


Augustine Cebeda of the Brown
Berets deAztlanas he spoke on
Channel2 News: "Mexicans have
everyright to be here.
This land was stolen from us."

"A man is no less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new master once in a term of years." ~~Lysander Spooner

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-07-28   10:23:42 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: robin (#0)

The group of militant Chicanos popular back in the 1960s

Has Bush publically condemned this militant group that will be, at a minimum, harassing Patriots? Arent the members of this group also vigilantes (they consider the patriots to be breaking the laws of PC), yet more dangerous because of their militant history? Or does Bush have 2 sets of standards, driven in part by Marxist principles?

Bayonne  posted on  2005-07-28   10:27:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#8)

"Mexicans have everyright to be here. This land was stolen from us."

They really believe this. That California would have the 5th or 7th largest economy in the world if Mexico (or rather Spain still) owned it. Not that California would look like Tijuana. Even after all the economic aid we have sent to Mexico, and all their poor we have absorbed. True gratitude.

And Native Americans take strong exception to his revisionist history.

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-07-28   10:27:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Bayonne (#9)

Or does Bush have 2 sets of standards, driven in part by Marxist principles?

Oh he has at least 2.

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-07-28   10:29:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: robin (#10)

source

The Brown Berets:
Young Chicano Revolutionaries

Fight Back! interviewed Carlos Montes, one of the founders and former Minister of Information of the Brown Berets National Office in East Los Angeles from 1967 to 1970. In the late 1960s and early 1970s, the Brown Berets emerged as one of the most powerful and militant organizations in the Chicano liberation movement. Like the Black Panther Party, the Brown Berets were hit hard by government repression. This interview brings out a part of our history that is rarely taught in schools and some lessons for today's activists from our movement's past.

Fight Back!: Who were the Brown Berets?

Carlos Montes was a co-founder of the Brown Berets in 1967.

Carlos Montes: We were a group of young Chicano revolutionaries from the barrios of the Southwest fighting for the self-determination of our people. We organized in our barrios, published the newspaper La Causa, ran a free clinic and fought against police brutality as well as against the U.S. war in Vietnam.

We evolved from a youth group - from Young Citizens for Community Action, to Young Chicanos for Community Action to the Brown Berets. We evolved from civic participation and assimilation to revolutionary nationalism. The brown beret was a symbol of the pride in our culture, race and history. It also symbolized our anger and militancy and fight against the long history of injustice against the Chican@ people in the U.S., especially the Southwest. We claimed the Southwest as Aztlan, the original homeland of the indigenous Aztec ancestors and founders of Mexico City, Tenochtitlan. We were from poor working class families growing up with the racism and police abuse.

Fight Back!: Why did you join?

Carlos Montes: My family came to L.A. from Juarez, Mexico in 1956. I grew up in the barrios of South L.A. and East L.A. and experienced the racist conditions in the schools, police abuse, drugs, and the poor living conditions. This led me to get involved in the first Chicano student group, the Mexican American Student Association (MASA), at East L.A. College in 1967 which saw using education as the solution to injustice. I was also working as a youth center director and came across Young Chicanos for Community Action and La Raza newspaper, which were starting to voice opposition to the racist conditions in the barrio. I was drawn to the more active and direct action approach of Young Chicanos for Community Action, which became the Brown Berets in late 1967.

Fight Back!: What kind of community organizing did you do?

Carlos Montes: We first took on the issue of police brutality. The East L.A. sheriffs were notorious for their brutality, especially against Chicano youth, which I experienced cruising Whittier Boulevard on the weekends with hundreds of other youth. We were the first to lead a protest at the East L.A. sheriffs station to protest the killing of youth at the station in 1967. We also started working with the car clubs in East L.A. to defend them against police abuse. We opened a local cultural center in East L.A., The Piranya Coffee House, where we held youth meetings and cultural programs. It became one of the meeting places for the Brown Berets.

We also started working on the problems of the bad school conditions and the racist educational system. Our schools were old and in bad condition, with high drop out, or push out, rates and racist administrators and teachers. Over time, we started agitating for bilingual education, better school conditions, Chicano studies and more Chicano teachers. We attended community, school and youth meetings to raise demands for better educational and school conditions. This finally led to the historic East L.A. Blowouts in March of 1968, where thousands of high school Chicano youth walked out of the four predominantly Chicano high schools in the Eastside over a two week period.

Police photo of Brown Beret led walk-out at L.A.'s Lincoln High School

The Brown Berets were the first to run in to the high schools, yelling, ?Walk out! Walk out!? To get the blowouts started, me and James Vigil (a k a Mangas Coloradas) ran into Lincoln High School on the first day to kick off the walkouts. We then went on to Roosevelt High School and the other schools.

We also supported the land movement in New Mexico of the Chicano small farmers and ranchers. They fought to recover the land stolen by the rich Anglo ranchers and the U.S. federal government. We supported the United Farm Workers' struggle for union recognition and better working conditions. We marched with the first Rainbow Coalition in the Poor Peoples Campaign in Washington D.C. in the summer of 1968. We were at the first historic Chicano Youth Liberation conference, where the Plan Espiritaul de Aztlan was formulated in Denver, Colorado. We also organized the first Chicano Moratorium against the Vietnam War in December 1969. This led to the historic national Chicano Moratorium march and rally against the Vietnam war on Aug. 29, 1970, where over 20,000 Chicanos protested the high casualty rate of Chicanos in Vietnam and demanded self-determination at home in the Southwest. 'Raza si! Guerra no!'

Fight Back!: What were major successes?

Carlos Montes: We exposed police brutality. Back then, some people tried to deny it existed. We were part of building the Chicano movement for self-determination, which raised the slogan of Chicano Power. It also started the movement for cultural awareness and pride in our Chicano history in the Southwest and Mexico, and our culture and language.

The blowouts were historic because it was the fist wave of mass actions by Chicanos in the urban barrios of the late 1960s. We eventually won bilingual education, Chicano studies, better school conditions and Chicano teachers and administrators. The mass anti-war demonstrations were part of the movement that eventually forced Nixon to pull out of Vietnam. We also opened the doors for affirmative action in higher education and political representation.

Fight Back!: How did the political views of the Brown Berets develop?

Carlos Montes: We started out with civic involvement and education as the road to equality, but soon learned that only real revolutionary change and political power by poor working people would gain real equality and freedom. We evolved from civic duty, work within the system, to self-determination, revolutionary nationalism and international solidarity with the liberation movements of Latin America, Africa and Asia - like the Vietnamese, the Congolese and Cubans fighting for freedom from U.S. domination.

Fight Back!: How did they see the world?

Carlos Montes: We believed in self-determination for Chicanos. The Brown Berets' thirteen-point political program talked about self-determination as having political and economic control over our lives. It called for a return of our land, release of prisoners, jobs, education, housing, an end to the destruction of the environment by the capitalists, open borders, solidarity with all revolutionary peoples engaged in the struggle for self-determination. And we denounced the U.S. system of capitalism and imperialism.

Fight Back!: Did they work with groups in the Black community?

Carlos Montes: Yes, we supported and formed alliances with Black groups such as the Black Panther Party. We supported them when the police attacked them. We also set up similar programs like the East L.A. Free Clinic and free breakfast programs. We also were part of the first Rainbow Coalition when we joined the Poor Peoples Campaign in the summer of 1968. The Rev. Martin Luther King had struggled within the Southern Christian Leadership Conference to include the Chicano militant groups in the march on Washington, such as the Crusade for Justice, from Colorado; Alliance of Free City States, from New Mexico and the Brown Berets.

Fight Back!: What happened to the Brown Berets?

Carlos Montes: The Brown Berets grew to have about fourteen chapters throughout the Southwest, with East L.A. being the National Office. After the initial organizing efforts, the Los Angeles Police Department and sheriffs sent undercover officers to infiltrate the Brown Berets. The police infiltrators spied and acted as agent provocateurs, with the purpose of arresting the leadership and disrupting the organization. The police used secret grand jury indictments to try to jail and tie up the leadership in court trials. The top-down military structure of the group did not allow for the development of new leadership, or the leadership and development of the women who did a lot of the internal work. The Brown Berets continued 'till about 1972, when they were disbanded. By then, the Prime Minister David Sanchez had degenerated into staging publicity stunts and running a one-man egomaniac undemocratic group.

Fight Back!: What are the lessons for today?

Carlos Montes: Building a mass militant movement to the stop the U.S. war drive, for social change and for revolution is key. Also rebuilding grassroots militant organizations in the community that fight for self-determination, social justice and liberation - not just for reforms. We need an organization that includes the participation of the entire family and that values and promotes the leadership of women.

Fight Back!: What about today's 'Brown Berets?'

Carlos Montes: The current group that call themselves Brown Berets have not led or been involved in any positive mass campaigns for self-determination or social change. They have not been able to grow or get support from any large segments of the Chicano community. They have not taken up the fight for immigrant rights or other important issues, especially the growing anti-war movement of today. They are primarily male and male dominated. They use militant rhetoric, but do not organize.

To talk with Carlos Montes contact him at the Centro CSO (323) 221-4000

"A man is no less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new master once in a term of years." ~~Lysander Spooner

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-07-28   10:31:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#8)

Augustine Cebeda of the Brown Berets deAztlanas

With a little training, he'd make a good busboy


Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?

Flintlock  posted on  2005-07-28   10:34:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#12)

They use militant rhetoric, but do not organize.

I'm keeping an eye on them nevertheless. And the MSM gave them some media time, more positive perhaps than they ever gave MMP.

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-07-28   10:36:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: robin (#0)

“They communicated to me there sincere intent in organized confrontation a physical confrontation against the minutemen,” said the county’s Democratic party chairman Juan Maldonado.

Interesting video. So these people are inciting violence but the statement is totally ignored?

"...when a society believes in nothing, fear becomes the only agenda..."

Zipporah  posted on  2005-07-28   10:46:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Zipporah (#15)

That caught my eye, too. It seemed to me that it was sufficient justification to arrest the morons.

"A man is no less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new master once in a term of years." ~~Lysander Spooner

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-07-28   10:47:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut, Zipporah (#16)

And MMP has already seen "action". They've been warned to stay in groups to avoid being victimized.

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-07-28   10:49:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: robin (#14)

The brown beret was a symbol of the pride in our culture, race and history.

They even got positive media publicity?

What would be the result if the majority in the US formed a movement that was proud of it's culture, race and history? What groups would be against it (paging the censors)?

This double standard, based as I said on Marxist principles, will cause problems for Americans. As millions of illegals flood the US each year, and as our system protects them, gives them special powers and rights, there will be less chance of broad assimilation. Too many Mexicans will harbor an us vs them mentality, driven by their leadership. And Americans will grow tired of double standards that affect them adversely. They may develop an us vs them mentality. Multi culti at it's finest.

Bayonne  posted on  2005-07-28   10:49:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Bayonne (#18)

They may develop an us vs them mentality.

Balkanization of America appears to be someone's long range goal.

Imagine you wanted to take over control of all America. But the majority is a bunch of hard core patriotic individualists. How would you go about weakening it? Breaking it up?

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-07-28   10:53:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Bayonne (#18)

Multi culti at it's finest.

Dilute and conquer.

We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...

Dakmar  posted on  2005-07-28   10:54:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Bayonne, Robin, Zipporah (#18)

brown beret

that is just what I think too. And this 'brown beret' symbol is racist. It is reminiscent of the white sheets of the KKK. I live in phoenix area. Believe me, this is an accurate portrayal. they believe in brown power and brown pride. And when they are given special powers and privileges by the powers that be here in the US you will just encourage their racism.

I can't emphasize enough that today in Chandler AZ at least and likely elsewhere little children who grew up speaking english are told in school that they must speak spanish. There are public schools where all instruction is given in spanish. No english. Little children who grew up with brown parents but speak english are told this. Little children who grew up with white parents who speak english are told this.

I go into a McDonalds in downtown phoenix to buy something. and all the staff are recent arrival mexican. but 90% of customers are white. the staff is 100% recent arrival mexican because that is the group that is bilingual and the corporation has a policy of hiring bilingual only. And the person helping me can't even speak english, and that's happened to me, she goes and calls a translator to help serve me. and lots of young people have told me that they've been turned down from such jobs because theyspeak english only.

I know people who are ethnic mexican, came here 30-40 years ago. their families are complete english speaking. and now they are learning spanish to get a job.

Red Jones  posted on  2005-07-28   10:59:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Red Jones (#21)

There are public schools where all instruction is given in spanish. No english.

I know people who are ethnic mexican, came here 30-40 years ago. their families are complete english speaking. and now they are learning spanish to get a job.

Too much Red. Can you imagine if we started the White Helmets or something? :)

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-07-28   11:02:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut, Zipporah, robin (#16)

If these freaks are inciting violence then lets citizen arrest them..

Lady X  posted on  2005-07-28   11:18:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: YertleTurtle (#2)

Turn on your speakers.

"Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges!"

"But what is Hope? Nothing but the paint on the face of Existence; the least touch of truth rubs it off, and then we see what a hollow-cheeked harlot we have got hold of." Lord Byron

BTP Holdings  posted on  2005-07-28   11:47:37 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: robin (#19)

Mestizos Sweep through Minnesota
Report; Posted on: 2005-07-27 05:21:58



Non-White immigration is replacing Americans everywhere, even in the far north.

Angela Fuentes has lived in Minnesota since she was thirteen years old. She went to high school in Faribault, performed well in school and graduated this past May. Like many other high school graduates, Angela wants to attend college in the fall, but because she is an undocumented immigrant, she cannot.

Fuentes was born in Mexico and was never officially documented as an immigrant in Minnesota. Even though Fuentes has immersed herself into life here, without documentation she cannot receive in-state tuition at Minnesota state schools. Without in-state tuition, Fuentes cannot afford college.
Source article

Washington Report

1776  posted on  2005-07-28   11:47:47 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: robin, Bayonne, Eoghan, 1776, christine, Zipporah, Red Jones, Jethro Tull, Jhoffa_, timetobuildaboat, justlurking, Lady X, Jen, All (#24)

PING!

"But what is Hope? Nothing but the paint on the face of Existence; the least touch of truth rubs it off, and then we see what a hollow-cheeked harlot we have got hold of." Lord Byron

BTP Holdings  posted on  2005-07-28   11:50:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#8)

Augustine Cebeda of the Brown Berets deAztlanas

I would dearly love to put the crosshairs square on this butthead.

"But what is Hope? Nothing but the paint on the face of Existence; the least touch of truth rubs it off, and then we see what a hollow-cheeked harlot we have got hold of." Lord Byron

BTP Holdings  posted on  2005-07-28   11:52:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: robin (#22)

and you know a fair portion of my personal friends are ethnic mexican who came here from Mexico. because I live in phoenix area. I have 2 personal friends who are in late 40's and have children. Both came from Mexico, 1 when he was 5 and 1 when he was 20. Both have kids who speak english only. and both are telling their kids to learn spanish so they can get a job.

And I witness the brown-power ideology first-hand. and this is among nice people that are friends of mine.

I have 1 acquaintance who is white. His 2 kids who are american go to a public school where all instruction is in spanish language. The ethnic mexicans see the pro-spanish ideology and they are responding.

Red Jones  posted on  2005-07-28   11:52:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: 1776 (#25)

without documentation she cannot receive in-state tuition at Minnesota state schools. Without in-state tuition, Fuentes cannot afford college.

TOUGH SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You'll have to WORK your way through college like I did..

Interetingly enough I attended a private University in Mexico and I had to PAY for it..

Lady X  posted on  2005-07-28   11:55:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Lady X, robin, zipporah, christine (#29)

Illegal aliens from Mexico get KIDNEY TRANSPLANTS.
Chew on that.

Washington Report

1776  posted on  2005-07-28   12:01:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: robin, dakmar (#19)

Dilute and conquer

I have a theory on why everything seems absurd when looking at the illegals situation- we are looking at the issue from a perspective of traditional America, while the system is now Marxist and not only does it not benefit us any longer, it works AGAINST us by its very nature.

Example: Bush maintains open border to benefit illegals- says it openly. Bush calls American Patriots vigilantes while not saying a word about a militant Mex group harassing the Patriots on our side of the border. Makes no sense, right? Unfortunately, it makes perfect sense.

Dilute and conquer seems to sum it up. The system now works against the middle class majority. While the border issue is important and the MinuteMen do good work, it is important for Americans to see the big picture and consider what the future holds if the govt continues with it's Marxist policies. I keep ranting about Marxism, because that it at the root of our problem now. It is a constant attack on the majority middle class. We must realize there must be BIG changes away from Marxism, cultural Marxism. I'm a little confused why noone is able to see it for what it is.

Tom Tancredo seems to be the only one in DC that is fighting against the cultural Marxists. Every politician I am familiar with is totally on board with cultural Marxism- including 'Conservatives'. They have been for years.

Since the MM have taken action, no action has taken place in DC. The threat is Americans can become complacent and think that the MM are taking care of the problem and representing the people. The ideology behind II is what needs to be changed.

I sound like a broken record on 4, but I'll say it yet again. The system is Marxist in that special groups are given rights and power, in large part by the govt. Rights and power are removed from the majority when dealing with these special groups. The special groups are the victim class, while we are the predatory class. Reality/current events does not change this relationship. The groups are given special rights and powers hypothetically to protect themselves. In our system, the individual has the ultimate set of rights and we are all equal- that is supposed to be the protection, but no longer. Groups do not need defense, so they go on the offense- all groups against the majority.

Thats why we have all these groups getting their way in DC at the expense of the majority. Thats why we have individual rights being taken away and group rights expanded. It is a factor in the rise of the police state. Its why Bush says 'Mexicans are hard working Jesus loving family people who only want to work and achieve a better life for their families', while ignoring all the negatives toward the US majority- ignoring any amount of crime and destruction and damage to the middle class. In Marxism, the targetted class has no rights when compared to the special victim groups. The middle class is always the predator and therefore cannot be given any power over the victim class.

95% of murder warrants in LA for illegals? Americans killed? Quality of life destroyed? Hospitals overwhelmed? Bush couldn't care less- because he is a Marxist and only thinks about groups. Never individuals. The individuals in the majority LITERALLY mean nothing to him. The only thing that matters is that the middle class group is predatory and that it has wealth- wealth that, the illegals say, don't have. To Bush, the middle class is just fine and is blessed- no matter what is happening.

Bush also believes that middle class Americans have a duty to redistribute their wealth to illegals- because 'they deserve it'- by their nature. Proof: Bush granted full SS benefits to all illegals- on top of everything else they were collecting. What justification did he have for this other than Marxism? It's not only a tranfer of wealth between groups, it's a transfer of wealth to Mexican citizens. It is international socialism. The border means nothing to Bush- only the Marxist relationship of the groups matters.

I believe I have made the case. Marxism is the disease. II is a symptom.

Bayonne  posted on  2005-07-28   12:06:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Red Jones (#21)

And when they are given special powers and privileges by the powers that be here in the US you will just encourage their racism.

Exactly. The govt encourages racism in the special victim groups like the Hispanics. Since whites are portrayed as the predator group by govt and media, the govt stirs up the animosity of the Hispanics right off the bat. The relationship between the groups is set up by the govt to be adversarial. Then the govt gives the special groups protections rights and powers to go on the offensive against the white group- because they need special powers to combat the white group.

Bayonne  posted on  2005-07-28   12:12:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: 1776 (#25)

Angela Fuentes has lived in Minnesota since she was thirteen years old. She went to high school in Faribault, performed well in school and graduated this past May. Like many other high school graduates, Angela wants to attend college in the fall, but because she is an undocumented immigrant, she cannot.

Typical propaganda.

This is what I'm talking about. The girl is talked up like a Saint, and then immediately portrayed as a victim. Without a mention of the great benefit she has illegally derived in the US up to this point. What about all the benefits of life in the US? She is not a victim... She's lucky and should be grateful.

The propaganda is always the same- the illegal is a saint- they have made a great contribution to the country- we're lucky to have a person as good as her in our country- the illegal status is played down so it is completely unimportant and irrelevant, except as a means to paint her a victim of the US. Of course, undoc'd immigrant is used instead of II, implying their is no crime involved- no nagatives about the illegal allowed.

Then, of course, the article calls for the US to change its 'oppressive' system, because afterr all, it's a matter of social justice.

The needs of the illegal alien group are always primary. The majority group's needs are never primary, and when members of the majority demand that their interests be placed in a primary positions, the special int groups cry racism. This article is about college attendance, but the techniqe it employs is used for more important issues.

Bayonne  posted on  2005-07-28   12:27:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: 1776 (#25)

Hilarious, but too serious to be enjoyed.

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-07-28   12:49:00 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Lady X (#29)

You'll have to WORK your way through college like I did..

Interetingly enough I attended a private University in Mexico and I had to PAY for it..

Ha! Yes, of course you did.

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-07-28   12:50:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Red Jones (#21)

I go into a McDonalds in downtown phoenix to buy something. and all the staff are recent arrival mexican. but 90% of customers are white. the staff is 100% recent arrival mexican

I went into a local McDonalds Tuesday morning and they had little placards on the table showing pictures of 3 types of chicken sandwiches.

I couldn't read it because it was in Spanish. That really pissed me off. I go there about twice a year but I'm not going back because I consider that an insult.

Grumble Jones  posted on  2005-07-28   13:44:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: robin (#0)

“We monitor the system,” Delgado said. “When there is a threat to the Mexican-American community we are there.”

I hope they monitor this, I think these honky gringos are out of line:

Living the Third World Dream

commentary by Ben Vinyard

The word from our sources at the Arkansas Dim-Gazette says that chief editor Paul Greenberg scours our website every day for any mention of his name and then replies with an opinion piece to try and debunk our news stories. Last week’s editorial entertained us with yet another heart-warming story of poor, hard-working criminals who just want a better life for themselves, in the same vein as the tired Sunday edition editorials of blacks who overcame racism and poverty to work on the school board or become city councilman of an all-black district.

“Mr. Lara worked long hours at a variety of jobs—from manufacturing to yard work—[Translation for those of you who can’t read jewspeak: Hector Lara is a lazy s*** who can’t hold a job.—BV] to support the wife and four children who later joined him from Mexico’s Jalisco state.” [Translation: “to have the U.S. taxpayers help support his wife and four children who later also illegally jumped the border.”—BV]

“Illegal alien” is one of the seven dirty things you can’t write in the Dim-Gazette because to jewish justification it is a buzzword. “It’s not just that immigration code name ILLEGAL ALIENS!—has become Hot Topic A…” In all-caps, no less, as if to emphasize the idea the descriptive term “illegal” is somehow inaccurate hyperbole. I suppose “undocumented workers” isn’t an immigration code name used by the jewish media for those who have illegally invaded our country.

The Dim-Gazette copy basically lifts the story from the Wall Street Journal. “So what makes this version unusual enough, newsy enough, to make the front page of the Wall Street Universally Read Journal?” Greenburg wonders. Oh, I dunno, Paul, it could be because the jewish-owned Wall Street Journal (chairman and publisher of the WSJ is jew Peter R. Kann) has the same open borders agenda as the jewish editor of the ADG. The open borders campaign, as they say in Hollywood, isn’t playing well in Peoria. A couple of human emotion pieces are what’s needed to convince the middle Americans—who are losing their jobs, having their tax dollars stolen out of their wallets and who are making the obvious observation that the number of Mexicans moving into their neighborhoods coincides proportionally with the increasing crime rate—that more illegal invaders are somehow a benefit to them. Maybe the Wall Street Journal’s rationale of what makes this story “newsy” enough is somehow related to the same propaganda technique that makes three holocaust stories a week newsworthy.

The peg of the op-ed, though, was the ludicrous assertion that the mixed-race subhumans from a civilization that never progressed past third world status are somehow magically smarter than the European Americans.

“Contrary to uninformed, oft-hysterical opinion, Hispanic immigrants do just as well as other immigrants when it comes to education…” Also contrary to any test ever conducted anywhere.

Here’s their “scoop,” or, in Greenberg’s opinion, what makes the story “newsy”:

“First, the statistical scoop on education: A 45-year-old immigrant who came to this country from Mexico in 1945 averaged about 4.3 years of school. According to Rand’s research, his son would average twice that. His grandson: 12.5 years. Result: a gain of some eight years of education in just three generations. Which is better than European immigrants did in the first part of the 20th Century.”

I wonder if those Mexicans in twelfth and a half grade could pass this eighth grade test from the year 1895? The point is you could have Alzheimer’s Disease and pass today’s high school curriculum. Students are given tests with the instructions: “Remember, there are no wrong answers.” We have become so afraid of crushing a child’s self-esteem that some schools are no longer allowed to mark a child’s results a failure, but are mandated to refer to them as “deferred success.” There is no history class, only social studies, and the average teenager’s understanding of history is exemplified by the fact they believe World War II was started because President Roosevelt found out the Germans had concentration camps and so America went to war to save the jews from persecution. That’s exactly what they believe, just ask one. There was no Pearl Harbor. Their knowledge of geography is limited to the wrong driving directions printed out on mapquest. I once asked a teenager what she thought the meaning of Thanksgiving was. She replied, “It’s where the Indians taught the pilgrims how to hunt and fish and stuff.”

The equation the Dim-Gazette and the WSJ propaganda articles are trying to draw is that the non-White immigrants of modern times are equal to or greater than White immigrants of the past. Nothing could be further from the truth. The abilities inherent in the racial stock of our White ancestors are what allowed them to create all the great civilizations of the world. All of them. The abilities inherent in the racial stock of the mestizos are what allowed them create the taco platter. Third world people bring with them third world culture. The fact they will add nothing positive to our society is evidenced by the fact that despite 35 million or so of them in our country—that we know about or the government admits to—they have still not added one single positive aspect. Not one. Greenberg writes “…we can look back at two centuries of American history…two centuries of this country re-inventing itself again and again…” That’s what we’re worried about, bub. Not the fact we will re-invent ourselves, but the fact we will re-invent ourselves as a Tijuana shithole.

Washington Report

1776  posted on  2005-07-29   15:15:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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