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Title: Bury a gun and ammo for 15 years (and be assured everything still works when you dig it up)
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Published: Dec 31, 2008
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Post Date: 2008-12-31 10:08:42 by PSUSA
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By Charles Wood Back in the early 1990s the outlook for the nation in general and gun owners in particular seemed rather grim to many people. A few years earlier in 1986, Congress had banned civilians from owning newly manufactured machine guns. There was ever more strident talk of banning semi-automatic weapons or so called assault weapons. Many of us regarded a semi-automatic rifle as the foundation of a home defense battery. Many of us believed that more laws banning ever more types of guns were imminent. About that time I acquired a Ruger Ranch Rifle through a private sale. I decided to stash it away in a safe place just in case my worst fear was to materialize, another gun ban. The general location of the pipe after the logging was done. It would have helped if I had had a better method of locating the pipe. The general location of the pipe after the logging was done. It would have helped if I had had a better method of locating the pipe. First order of business was to decide how I would prepare the gun for long-term storage and where I would store it. I decided that for maximum security I needed to bury it. This would keep it safe from all but the most determined government goons. I set about finding an appropriate location. I live in a fairly remote, wooded rural area in the northeast. One day as I was walking in the woods I noticed a hemlock tree had blown down and been uprooted by a recent windstorm. There was a small crater about eight feet across and three feet deep where the root ball had been torn out of the ground. It occurred to me that this would be a good spot for my rifle. Since I now had the location, I began preparing the rifle for storage. I bought a piece of 6-inch diameter schedule 40 PVC pipe, end caps, and PVC solvent from a hardware store in another town where I had never done business before. Being in a rural area where everyone knows everyone I didn’t want to arouse any suspicions about what I was up to. I then disassembled the rifle and completely coated every metal part with a rust preventative oil intended for storing unused machinery in damp locations. This oil dries to form a waxy coating. I was extra careful that the bore was completely coated. I wanted to vacuum-pack the rifle as extra insurance against rust. As it turned out my employer had just taken delivery of a mainframe computer that happened to be wrapped in a large Here is the top of the pipe uncovered with the noose and winch attached. Here is the top of the pipe uncovered with the noose and winch attached. aluminized mylar bag for shipping. This proved to be the perfect material for my purpose. I discovered that with a warm iron I could fuse the edges of this material into a custom-fitted airtight bag for the rifle. I placed each individual component of the partially disassembled rifle in its own custom-made mylar bag with a small bag of silica gel desiccant to absorb any moisture present. Using my shop vac and an iron I managed to produce a professional-looking vacuum-packing job. The barreled action, stock, trigger assembly, hand guard, magazines, scope, and mounts all went into individual bags. Since the rifle was so heavily preserved I knew I would need something to degrease it with when I finally retrieved it so I included two small cans of 1-1-1 Trichlorethane in the package. Also, since a rifle is of little use without ammunition, several thousand rounds of .223 were included. Because every well-maintained rifle needs to be cleaned and oiled occasionally, I added a cleaning rod, patches, Hoppe’s #9 solvent, gun oil, grease, and owner’s manual. A set of reloading dies was included as well. If dire circumstances required me to retrieve my rifle I wanted to be sure that I would have everything at hand necessary to put it into service. All of the individually wrapped components were sealed together into a larger mylar bag custom-made for the purpose along with a couple more medium-sized bags of desiccant. A few bags of ammo were taped to the side of this bag and the entire thing was wrapped in duct tape. Additional ammo was packed into zip lock freezer bags. The pipe was carefully sawn open to reveal that it remained watertight after 15 years underground. The pipe was carefully sawn open to reveal that it remained watertight after 15 years underground. With everything prepared I was ready to load the pipe. I first put in a large bag of desiccant followed by several bags of ammo, followed by the bag containing the rifle and supplies. Since there was some empty space surrounding the rifle, I dumped in some loose ammo just to fill the voids. More bags of ammo were then added to fill the pipe. Since I had a tank of nitrogen available, I also purged the air from the tube with the nitrogen before sealing it. This was undoubtedly overkill but I had it available so I used it. I took extreme care while using the PVC solvent to insure that the caps were perfectly sealed and watertight. Finally, I painted the pipe black, and at this point, 15 years later, I’m not sure why. I loaded the sealed pipe in the back of my truck and drove up into the woods to the downed hemlock tree previously selected. With a post hole digger I dug a hole about six feet deep and a foot in diameter in the center of the crater left by the root ball of the tree. After gently placing the pipe in the hole, I carefully pulled the tree upright using a chain attached to my truck. By this time the tree had died and most of the needles had fallen off. Once returned to vertical it was pretty stable and a little dirt and debris shoveled around the edges did the trick. In any healthy, well-managed forest there are always a few standing dead trees, so this one would not arouse the curiosity of anyone who hunted or hiked there. The contents of the pipe, still in the protective wrapping. The contents of the pipe, still in the protective wrapping. I never told anyone what I had done and I didn’t write down the location anywhere. About five or six years later I had a timber harvest. I had my consulting forester mark the tree as a wildlife tree so it wouldn’t be disturbed by the loggers. It was, after all, popular with the Pileated Woodpeckers. It has been 15 years since I buried the rifle and I have recently had another timber harvest. The tree was quite rotted by this time and it didn’t survive the harvest. I had been keeping an eye on it, so when it finally fell I marked a nearby tree so I could find it again after the loggers left. Even careful logging causes quite an upheaval in the forest and it can be difficult to locate a specific spot after all the landmarks have been changed. After the logging crew had left it took me several days with a shovel and a rake to locate the rifle. In hindsight, I should have had some additional way of locating it. Since the top of the pipe was about three feet below ground level, my old metal detector wasn’t much help. I decided that it would be interesting to retrieve the rifle and see how well my storage plan had worked. I managed to locate the very rotted stump beneath the logging debris and started digging. Once I located the top of the pipe I excavated around it about a foot on all sides and to a depth of about a foot below the top of the pipe. I attached a noose of polypropylene rope and used the winch on my truck and a convenient log to slowly pull the pipe out of the ground. After all these years the soil was still very loose around the pipe and it was relatively easy to pull it out. I could have accomplished it without the winch had it been necessary. After removing the pipe, I filled the hole with logging debris and covered it up with some loose hemlock boughs to prevent someone from falling into it. All components were individually wrapped and sealed. The contents show no adverse affects after spending 15 years underground. All components were individually wrapped and sealed. The contents show no adverse affects after spending 15 years underground. Back at the house I hosed off the mud and prepared to saw the pipe open. Using a handsaw, I very carefully cut completely around one of the caps. I didn’t want to damage the contents by being too enthusiastic. With the cap removed it was immediately obvious that no moisture had gotten into the pipe. I carefully slid the contents out on to a table for examination. After unwrapping the duct tape and removing the outer bag, it was obvious that all was OK. All of the individual packages were unwrapped to reveal the contents were as good as the day they were packaged. So if you think it is necessary, you can store a rifle safely for long periods in harsh environments. A little attention to detail, some scrounged materials, and a few dollars in supplies are all it takes. Poster Comment: Personally I think that when some believe it is time to cache weapons, it is really time to USE THEM! But this article might help someone.
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#1. To: All, *Shooters* (#0)
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Nehemiah 4:14 And I looked and arose and said to the nobles and to the officials and to the rest of the people, “Do not be afraid of them. Remember the Lord, who is great and awesome, and fight for your brothers, your sons, your daughters, your wives, and your homes.”
This sounds more like a fairy tale to me.
I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise. I know people who think and act just that way. This article is quite plausible and probably truthful. But, I disagree with the whole idea of burying weapons for a later time. If you don't make a stand when they spring the trap then the weapons will be useless once people are in custody or dead. The idea of "owning a gun that's hidden a long way away" is about as comforting as burial insurance to me. The truth is, Americans are such chickenshits that they don't want to stand, fight and die when there's no chance of survival, just for the privilege of dying on their feet. No, they're hoping that Le Resistence will build mighty armies and launch the counter offensive without the govt ever being the wiser (an impossibility in The United Surveillance States Of Snitches) and that way none of the cowards will ever have to be the first to die. Then, when the war begins those cautious patriots can stay in the back of the line and carefully pot shot when not cringing behind the piles of their dead comrades. And, those who still hold weapons when the order to surrender all firearms comes down will simply turn them in. And THAT is why they want to bury them now. They can still "own" the guns but with no risk of punishment. But, the guns are worthless of course. If that day isn't the right time to take it to the streets then, just what in the Hell are those lily-livered sissies waiting for? "I'll wait until they announce that my wife and daughters are going to be gang raped one week from the day of the announcement, and when they come for mah wimmenfolk I'll be ready for the bastards!" Suuuure, you will. If we only had the courage of the "first responders" at The Battle of Lexington and Concord we could win the war in a single day! We don't. We won't. We can't. There are too many save-asses who will wait to see which way the wind is blowing before deciding if they're patriots or Tories. The latter will leave their guns buried and salute the NWO flag if the risk is just too great. Which is why we should shoot any who hesitate the day we take it to the streets. There can be no neutral bystanders. They are either with us or they're a potential source of intel that we cannot afford to leave alive and in our wake....
The only reason I thought it was a fairy tale was that a lot of the detail seemed to have been left out, like how did he fill it with argon? How did he actually manage to vacuum pack the bags and keep them vacuumed while sealing the bags, etc. It seemed like one of those stories about what he would do if he did it. I did go to the source and it looks like he indeed did it. I mean, even standing up a fallen tree sound a bit far fetched to me. lol
I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise. BTW, I don't plan on dying. I plan on winning, and I can't do that if my shit is buried. :)
I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise. Exactly!
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Nehemiah 4:14 And I looked and arose and said to the nobles and to the officials and to the rest of the people, “Do not be afraid of them. Remember the Lord, who is great and awesome, and fight for your brothers, your sons, your daughters, your wives, and your homes.”
Exactly! But if I did bury something in the unlikely event that my shit is taken by surprise, I would do it in a similar way, cept it is very important to seal the pipe properly, which means not only pvc cement, but also using a pvc cleaner, followed by a pvc primer, before cementing the caps on. All of those are available along side pvc cement at any building supply or hardware store. Also, in place of argon, I would easily fill the pipe with co2 by placing a piece of dry ice into the tube first, letting it fully evaporate, which would displace any oxygen in the tube, and then fill it with my stuff. You have to keep the tube upright at all times for this to work however.
I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise. I'm still extremely upset by the unconstitutional actions of Congress in this matter and the subsequent inaction by following congresses to correct their error.
My wife uses an ordinary drinking straw to evacuate the air from freezer bags before sealing them. It works like a charm.
#2. To: PSUSA (#0)
Used Tires Albany, NY
#3. To: Critter, PSUSA, christine (#2)
This sounds more like a fairy tale to me.
#4. To: HOUNDDAWG, PSUSA (#3)
Used Tires Albany, NY
#5. To: HOUNDDAWG (#3)
Used Tires Albany, NY
#6. To: Critter (#5)
I plan on winning, and I can't do that if my shit is buried. :)
#7. To: PSUSA (#6)
I plan on winning, and I can't do that if my shit is buried. :)
Used Tires Albany, NY
#8. To: PSUSA (#0)
A few years earlier in 1986, Congress had banned civilians from owning newly manufactured machine guns.
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#9. To: Critter (#4)
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