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Title: Kissinger: Obama can create a "new world order" - CNBC 1/5/09
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Published: Jan 5, 2009
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Post Date: 2009-01-05 09:42:20 by Jethro Tull
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Views: 1146
Comments: 88

Ah.....the year is only 5 days old and Henry Kissinger just mumbled the magic words - New World Order. He said that Obama is in a position to create it, thanks to all the global good will he is receiving.

YouTube to follow shortly.

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#31. To: Jethro Tull (#28)

thanks

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2009-01-05   14:40:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Jethro Tull (#28)

was there any other guests on with haines and kissinger at the time, if so who? thanks

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2009-01-05   14:47:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: angle, Weasel Mike, Ferret Mike, Obamapologists, O'bots, Israbots, Hasbarfa, Anyone with a conscience, Anyone with a sense of humanity, all (#6) (Edited)

Yeah well, while Gaza is being genocided, we can observe protocol and wait until inauguration day and see what's left if anything to make a statement about. Fait accompli.

Exactly. You can count on Mikey to have an excuse for every illegal action, or as in this case failure to even comment, and bring some pressure to bear, on the liquidation of a ghetto.

Kind of like when the Warsaw Ghetto was "liquidated".

This is a first order abomination and the Obamessiah is busy "Golfing" and putting his little darlings into their exclusive private school. He's "too busy" to comment on Mass Murder, besides it would be inappropriate like Klinton commenting on "Queers in the Military".

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-01-05   14:47:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: OliviaFNewton (#29)

What was Haines reaction?

They were standing on the floor after the opening bell and his reaction was zero, zip, zilch. He looked as if he were in the presence of the Lord.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-01-05   14:48:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Jethro Tull (#34)

They were standing on the floor after the opening bell and his reaction was zero, zip, zilch. He looked as if he were in the presence of the Lord.

Isn't that bone chilling? I have seen Haines react to a great many things, by way of body language that defies his words. Of course it was safe. I've allowed a little room for the moneytalkers to be ignorant of the true game at hand. Many appear just that stupid. Haines. No.. He knows, but knows to keep zipped for a paycheck.

Maddening.

"Wherever a Knave is not punished, an honest Man is laugh'd at." -- George Savile (1633-1695)
"Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth." -- Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2009-01-05   14:54:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Original_Intent, Mike, all (#33) (Edited)

on the liquidation of a ghetto

I really hate to inject race into this, but since it is about race (not color) I will.

If the Palestinians were black, and the Gaza, Haiti, this wouldn't be happening because world pressure would never allow it.

For the Palestinians to survive as a people, each family will have to welcome a willing black family into their home. Just as nuclear weapons deter American military intervention (N. Korea), a mixed black nation will prevent further Israeli genocide.

Blacks....they're better than Aflac.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-01-05   14:58:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: OliviaFNewton (#35)

Haines. No.. He knows, but knows to keep zipped for a paycheck.

Haines was bristling during the TARP money argument - in a good way. That he didn't blink when the Lord mentioned the magic words isn't surprising. His Mother ship, GE, wouldn't have liked that.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-01-05   15:02:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Jethro Tull (#37)

Haines was bristling during the TARP money argument - in a good way.

I never cared all that much for him till he decided to stop Scarborough from interrupting his time. He brought a horn, and each time Joe started to yap, Haines would trigger this loud horn. It worked. I had a whole new appreciation for him for teaching that rude child a lesson.

His Mother ship, GE, wouldn't have liked that.

Ooh.. you're right. : [

"Wherever a Knave is not punished, an honest Man is laugh'd at." -- George Savile (1633-1695)
"Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth." -- Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2009-01-05   15:12:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Jethro Tull, REDPANTHER (#0)

Kissinger just mumbled the magic words - New World Order. He said that Obama is in a position to create it

ping/ "the lord" speaks

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition


"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx

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RUN SILENT, RUN DEEP

IndieTX  posted on  2009-01-05   15:22:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Jethro Tull, Weasel Mike, all (#36) (Edited)

on the liquidation of a ghetto

I really hate to inject race into this, but since it is about race (not color) I will.

If the Palestinians were black, and the Gaza, Haiti, this wouldn't be happening because world pressure would never allow it.

For the Palestinians to survive as a people, each family will have to welcome a willing black family into their home. Just as nuclear weapons deter American military intervention (N. Korea), a mixed black nation will prevent further Israeli genocide.

Blacks....they're better than Aflac.

I had a similar rumination. If the Palestinians were not on land that the Zionists wanted to steal, and another first world military was doing this to anyone - say Haiti for example - and Particularly if they were black Mikey would be having a cow and the U.S. Zionist Controlled Media would have wall-to-wall coverage of the human rights abuses, complete with lib'rul amounts of hand wringing and demands that the U.N. and U.S. do something about it. And of course the Obamessiah would be condemning it - "although I am not yet President I must speak out against this racist attack ...".

We even have an example from recent history - when the Zionists attacked Russia through their "Cat's Paw" Georgia there was outrage when the Awful Russians attacked Georgia - or at least as it was played in the U.S. PsyOps Media. And of course the U.S. Feral Government sent in "defense supplies" to the Georgians (who had been massacring civilians per Israeli Doctrine).

No the hypocrisy here does not extend only to the Obamessiah but it is striking how he is already toeing the Zionist Lyin'.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-01-05   15:37:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Original_Intent (#40)

Weasel Mike

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ...

noone222  posted on  2009-01-05   15:46:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Original_Intent (#40)

No the hypocrisy here does not extend only to the Obamessiah but it is striking how he is already toeing the Zionist Lyin'.

In mere months, we have seen O cling to his pastor and mentor as family, throw both he and his gramma under the bus, for..... his bred purpose. A creation delivered and groomed from birth to serve up this hell to the world cloaked by his Heinz pedigree and questionable bottling plant. A freak without papers.

That is not blood oozing from the dead. That is dipping sauce for his master.

"Wherever a Knave is not punished, an honest Man is laugh'd at." -- George Savile (1633-1695)
"Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth." -- Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2009-01-05   15:48:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: OliviaFNewton (#42)

No the hypocrisy here does not extend only to the Obamessiah but it is striking how he is already toeing the Zionist Lyin'.

In mere months, we have seen O cling to his pastor and mentor as family, throw both he and his gramma under the bus, for..... his bred purpose. A creation delivered and groomed from birth to serve up this hell to the world cloaked by his Heinz pedigree and questionable bottling plant. A freak without papers.

That is not blood oozing from the dead. That is dipping sauce for his master.

Well put, and I think you're likely right in that he has been getting prepped for this for a long time. His mother appears to have possibly been a CIA Covert Operative, his first job after College was for a CIA Front Company, and given his inhuman robotized reactions it is likely that he has been fully "programmed" for "the job".

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-01-05   15:59:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Original_Intent (#40) (Edited)

As his inauguration draws near "Black Messiah" is gaining more popularity as Obama's tag. During his administration, Pat Robertson and the Electric Jew could popularize "Black Saints" as the politically correct term for the Black race.

Rednecks will sing a new song in church:

"Nigger Jesus pity me. I am white trash, set me free""

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2009-01-05   16:26:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Original_Intent, christine, Cynicom, OliviaFNewton, noone222, IndieTX, lodwick, Artisan, scrapper2, wbales, angle, Bernie Madoff, THE THREAD - The Kissinger YouTube (#43)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-01-05   16:30:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Ferret Mike (#5) (Edited)

Had he spoken out and created a contriversy [sic] that would delay or make harder dealing with the situation there when he is actually in the position to make a real difference, then and only then would he create concern for me in regards to this.

Controversy? My, God, Mr. Mike ... what about Obama's relationship with Soros and his like don't you understand? But, then, you grade him by "pratfals" and what he has in the making for the masses can hardly be referred to as a "pratfal".

Phant2000  posted on  2009-01-05   16:30:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: REDPANTHER (#45)

NEW WORLD ORDER PING

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition


"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx

Countries Without a Draft circa 2001 (You'll need this soon if you have kids)

RUN SILENT, RUN DEEP

IndieTX  posted on  2009-01-05   16:42:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Jethro Tull (#7)

Obummer has Rahm Emanuel as his Chief of Staff. Rahm was a member of the Israeli Defense Force and the Mossad. That he is a spy is a matter of logical suspicion. Don't expect Obummer to do much about Gaza unless Israel bites off too much.

roughrider  posted on  2009-01-05   18:01:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: roughrider (#48)

I think the Gaza has just been permanently absorbed by the host parasite.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-01-05   20:06:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Kissinger eats his boogers.

Have pug, will laugh.

Turtle  posted on  2009-01-05   20:21:33 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Jethro Tull, christine, lodwick, james deffenbach, wudidiz, fred mertz, original_intent, twentytwelve, psusa, rotara (#45)

seems cnbc doesnt allow people to grab the original file. (although i have a friend who can isolate and save it, later. then i'll post the original high qyality clip.) here's my version, a little longer than the other one already posted:

1/5/09: Kissinger says Obama's Task Is To Create a "New World Order"

January 5, 2009 Appearing on 'Morning Call with Mark Haines' on CNBC, Henry Kissinger says Obama can create a "New World Order"

When asked by the female reporter , "What do you think the most important thing is for Barrack Obama?"

Kissinger responds: "....His task will be to develop an overall strategy for America in this period, when really a "New World Order" can be created . It's a great opportunity. It isn't such a crisis."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAIz_bPllKc

< param name="allowFullScreen" value="true">

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2009-01-05   20:26:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Phant2000 (#46)

I have my take on this, and you yours'.

I'll listen you what you have to say, but nothing about it makes sense; and I find it very underwhelming.

Thanks for sharing anyway.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-01-05   21:30:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Original_Intent (#30)

I like 'queers.' A whole lot better then I like bigoted fuss budgets like you.

Whatever Barack Obama did, you and your ilk would whine horribly about it.

If he spoke up you would be accusing him of neutralizing his effectiveness by creating a controversy about what is proper involvement politically for a president-elect and what is not.

You are a 'give them a fair trail before you hang him' sort. So why in the world should I care to be anything but rapturously amused and bemirthed by your butt headed sort of posturing?

I can really say I am not.

As for the gay in the military analogy you make no sense at all. You piously whine that the Gaza situation and the injustice toward gays and lesbians in the military are not remotely the same level of situation.

I actually agree with you, the genocide is a bigger story and issue. But think about it, Hasbro; if a lesser issue paralyzed and bedeviled Bill Clinton's new penny shiny presidency, what would a mis-step on a globally important issue possibly do to hurt President Obama who could have waited until 21 January 2009 to say or do something?

You also ignore the fact I am more then willing to criticize Obama if he does not remain consistent with his past rhetoric about the situation in the Middle East, or does not recognize that the status quo of how our mutual relationship with Israel under Bush cannot continue.

But then again, this too is not surprising, and consistent with the sort of behavior curmudgeon you are deep down inside are only capible of.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-01-05   21:49:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Ferret Mike (#53)

If you washed the polish off of Obingo mug, you'd be the same old Mikey.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-01-05   21:57:26 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Ferret Mike (#53)

You also ignore the fact I am more then willing to criticize Obama if he does not remain consistent with his past rhetoric about the situation in the Middle East,

Which ones? He went down really hard on AIPAC.

The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer

Dakmar  posted on  2009-01-05   22:02:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Jethro Tull (#45)

Kissinger

You can quote me on this.. Fuck Kissinger and his kind.. may he never catch fire in front of me.. for his sake..

Refinersfire  posted on  2009-01-05   22:12:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: All, *Bilderberg and NWO Watch* (#51)

FULL ORIGINAL CLIP FROM CNBC;

Kissinger / Obama "New World Order" [Entire Clip] 1/5/09 (3:12)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzMZ0v-BYXI

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2009-01-06   3:28:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Original_Intent (#43)

Well put, and I think you're likely right in that he has been getting prepped for this for a long time. His mother appears to have possibly been a CIA Covert Operative, his first job after College was for a CIA Front Company, and given his inhuman robotized reactions it is likely that he has been fully "programmed" for "the job".

Thank you OI.

his first job after College was for a CIA Front Company, and given his inhuman robotized reactions it is likely that he has been fully "programmed" for "the job".

Day2 has never been so anticipated.

"Wherever a Knave is not punished, an honest Man is laugh'd at." -- George Savile (1633-1695)
"Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth." -- Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2009-01-06   10:00:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Jethro Tull (#45)

"His 'TASK'? will be to develop an overall strategy for America, when really a new world order can be created; it's a great opportunity..."

Thanks for the vid JT, wow. (And Haines just stands there)

I'm going to have to think about that sentence. His TASK? O was already blabbing about 'remaking the world anew' last summer before the economic collapse. Might've been on his European victory tour.

Gosh, you'd almost think the fix was in from the beginning.

"Wherever a Knave is not punished, an honest Man is laugh'd at." -- George Savile (1633-1695)
"Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth." -- Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2009-01-06   10:08:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Ferret Mike, christine, Wudidiz, TwentyTwelve, James Deffenbach, Jethro Tull, Scrapper2, CadetD, all (#53)

I like 'queers.' A whole lot better then I like bigoted fuss budgets like you.

Whatever trips your trigger. Far be it from to to choose your friends for you. That would be a little presumptuous don't you think? Although I don't find your preference surprising.

Whatever Barack Obama did, you and your ilk would whine horribly about it.

You know that to be true HOW?

Your prescient presumption?

Your comment displays primarily your complete failure to confront and understand the current situation. Oh'bummer is a Puppet just as the present Village Idiot is a Puppet, as was Klinton before him. Your failure to grasp the realities of the situation does not require me to show any sympathy toward your continued unwillingness to look at things as they are and not as you project them to be. Along that path, sympathy and ignorance, lies a very dark destination. Far from offending me I simply find your reactions sad and pathetic.

Because I do not worship at the altar of the latest front man for the ruling elites, and do not slavishly hang on every vague and pre-scripted utterance of the Obamessiah, means nothing more than I choose to observe what the facts dictate. It is not what I personally project onto the blank screen of vague utterances such as "change" and "hope" presented to provide a blank screen so that people can project their own hopes, without support or confirmation, assuming that their personal hopes and desired changes is exactly what the PsyOps Messiah means. So far the only change we have seen is replacement of the usual crowd of crooks and thieves with the usual crowd of crooks and thieves. My only hope is that we can survive the experience liberty intact, and no mind control police state clampdown. Thankfully the mind controlled segment of the population, which you represent, is shrinking and more people are becoming aware of the true state of affairs. I keep hoping you'll break out of the mental straightjacket which is the only reason I bother to do more than simply prick you with the various barbs at my disposal.

No, what aroused my pique was not any like or dislike of the empty suit ascending to the White House, but your insistence upon defending the empty suit's unwillingness to acknowledge or comment on the horrors of hell being visited upon the Palestinians by the Middle East's only Marxist Racist Democracy.

Ever seen what White Phosphorous does to a person? Ever smelled the sickeningly sweet odor of charred flesh or heard the screams of a person, and here many of them are children, in unbearable agony as they are chemically burned to death?

Perhaps the only thing I find just in the excursion into hell perpetrated by the Zionist State is that the 2 kilometer cloud of deadly Depleted Uranium dust, which will remain active in the environment as it has a half life of 4.5 Billion years, is carried by the prevailing winds back into Sodom and Gomorrah. And this is what is not important enough for your Messiah to bestir himself from his Golf Game to comment on and for which you attempt to justify by comparison to Klinton's ill spoken comments on Queers in the Military. Perhaps you find that compelling, but I doubt that anyone not in thrall to the Obamessiah PsyOp does.

As for the gay in the military analogy you make no sense at all. You piously whine that the Gaza situation and the injustice toward gays and lesbians in the military are not remotely the same level of situation.

And they are not. I don't care to be diverted into a long excursion on the point, but that you cannot see the difference between the hellish ravages of murder and destruction the Israelis are visiting upon a largely unarmed populace, which was near starvation from the existing blockade, and the unwillingness of some to grant license to perverted sexuality - well it simply illustrates the mindset you project. What is it like on the other side of the "Rabbit Hole"? Never mind, your reasoning is irrational and I am interested in rational commentary.

You also ignore the fact I am more then willing to criticize Obama if he does not remain consistent with his past rhetoric about the situation in the Middle East, or does not recognize that the status quo of how our mutual relationship with Israel under Bush cannot continue.

While you ignore and avert your perception from those whom is appointing to his cabinet - Rahm Emmanuel - who chose to serve in the Israeli Military et. al., .... You ignore his prostration before AIPAC and the Zionazis and his obeisannce to them already illustrated by his behavior and appointments. Your "criticism" is always placed as a potential in the future, maybe, someday, while ignoring current events and actions. You are living in lala land still projecting your own aspirations upon the canvas of blank slogans scripted for the Obamessiah.

As for my being a curmudgeon. Thank you, it's the nicest thing you had to say, and while I would be false in claiming the mantle bestowed I appreciate the thought.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-01-06   11:45:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Kissinger is an arrogant ignorant fool. He will soon be in Hades with his other cult members. Maybe they will attempt to create a New Hades Order there, but I doubt it will work.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-01-06   11:48:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Original_Intent, Ferret Mike (#60)

Excellent rebuttal, OI. It was painful to read your description about the horrors of burning flesh.

Frankly, Ferret, I am surprised that you show no compassion for the Palestinian civilians. In the past you have always spoken out about military wrong doings against civilians ( Iraqis).

Yet now you are not calling out for Obama (or even the Dem Party leadership) to make a strong statement about the Israelis being in breach of several international laws as we speak.

Though Obama has not assumed the Presidency officially, he is President Elect and a US former Senator ie. an American statesman. He has every right to speak out against Genocide when it occurs, not as of January 20th, when it will be too late. And it is Genocide that the Israelis are engaged in. You cannot possibly deny that fact.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-01-06   12:06:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: scrapper2 (#62)

Frankly, Ferret, I am surprised that you show no compassion for the Palestinian civilians. In the past you have always spoken out about military wrong doings against civilians ( Iraqis).

I remain confused why ANYONE thinks Ferret is anything but a complete fraud.

He apparently wormed his way into some sort of good-grace with a few folks, but in every single case where adult rationale and moral judgement is required, the child recoils in feigned disgust, obfuscation and relativism. All things are not political. When death comes to the innocent, all that condone it through their silence or exception, are guilty of feeding the beast.

"Wherever a Knave is not punished, an honest Man is laugh'd at." -- George Savile (1633-1695)
"Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth." -- Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2009-01-06   12:23:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: OliviaFNewton. all (#63)

When death comes to the innocent, all that condone it through their silence or exception, are guilty of feeding the beast.

Amen.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-01-06   12:32:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Artisan (#51)

Kissinger--old b@$tard outlived his usefulness before he reached his first birthday. He is a blight on humanity and the world would have been better off if he, and other one worlder morons, had just keeled over dead before they were ever old enough to influence the outcome of whatever moronic game he/they played.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-01-06   18:32:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Refinersfire (#56)

You can quote me on this.. Fuck Kissinger and his kind.. may he never catch fire in front of me.. for his sake..

Yes. Woe be unto him if I am holding a can of gas.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-01-06   18:34:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Original_Intent (#60)

I've only seen such effective usage of the King's English from those educated or raised in the UK. You've provided an excellent example of blistering verbal combat and the art of completely decontructing an opponent. It has the beauty of a revealed checkmate. Well done.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition


"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx

Countries Without a Draft circa 2001 (You'll need this soon if you have kids)

RUN SILENT, RUN DEEP

IndieTX  posted on  2009-01-06   18:50:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: scrapper2 (#62)

Though Obama has not assumed the Presidency officially, he is President Elect and a US former Senator ie. an American statesman.

Obama is not a statesman; he is a politician and there is a world of difference. Ron Paul is a statesman and they are nothing alike.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-01-06   18:56:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: James Deffenbach (#68)

Obama is not a statesman; he is a politician and there is a world of difference. Ron Paul is a statesman and they are nothing alike.

Yet some rather he be gone from the stage since he is unable to walk on water.

Go figure.

"Where once a tyrant had to wish that his subjects had but one common neck that he might strangle them all at once, all he has to do now is to 'educate the people' so that they will have but one common mind to delude." -- Richard Mitchell (1929-2002) Professor at Glassboro State College, NJ, author, founder and publisher of The Underground Grammarian Source: The Underground Grammarian

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2009-01-06   19:05:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: James Deffenbach (#68)

Obama is not a statesman; he is a politician and there is a world of difference. Ron Paul is a statesman and they are nothing alike.

I can understand your reluctance to refer to Obama as a statesman.

But statesman is defined - strictly speaking - "an experienced and respected political leader".

That you and I don't respect him or his experience is true. But the majority of the voters in Illinois respected Obama enough to vote him into the state and federal Senate.

And the majority of Americans who voted in Nov respected Obama and his experience enough to put him in the Oval Office.

That's why I referred to Obama as a "statesman." The definition - strictly speaking - is fitting.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-01-06   19:12:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Original_Intent (#60)


"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all

wudidiz  posted on  2009-01-06   21:50:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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