Title: Kissinger: Obama can create a "new world order" - CNBC 1/5/09 Source:
[None] URL Source:[None] Published:Jan 5, 2009 Author:me Post Date:2009-01-05 09:42:20 by Jethro Tull Keywords:None Views:2863 Comments:88
Ah.....the year is only 5 days old and Henry Kissinger just mumbled the magic words - New World Order. He said that Obama is in a position to create it, thanks to all the global good will he is receiving.
It wouldn't help anyone to have a president-elect starting a contriversy about the current chain of command of government. Bush is accountible for his administration, not Obama. Obama's starts noon, eastern time on the 20th of this month.
I support him not muddying the waters, I still remember how deep and lasting a problem Clinton had when he didn't chose his battles wisely upon assuming the presidency in regards to the gays in the military question, even though he was right; gays and lesbians should not be discriminated against.
If Obama does not turn the screws on Israel upon assuming the presidency, this is a different matter. At the very least, the Israelis need a bit of tough love delivered to them.
In the form of a deminishment or ceasing of support politically, and in terms of aid provided them.
They are very wrong in this invasion of Gaza. It won't end the problems they want it to. It will exaerbate and expand it.
It wouldn't help anyone to have a president-elect starting a contriversy about the current chain of command of government. Bush is accountible for his administration, not Obama. Obama's starts noon, eastern time on the 20th of this month.
I support him not muddying the waters, I still remember how deep and lasting a problem Clinton had when he didn't chose his battles wisely upon assuming the presidency in regards to the gays in the military question, even though he was right; gays and lesbians should not be discriminated against.
If Obama does not turn the screws on Israel upon assuming the presidency, this is a different matter. At the very least, the Israelis need a bit of tough love delivered to them.
In the form of a deminishment or ceasing of support politically, and in terms of aid provided them.
They are very wrong in this invasion of Gaza. It won't end the problems they want it to. It will exaerbate and expand it.
So, genocide, ethnic cleansing, "liquidating the ghetto", is not a big enough issue for the Obamessiah to comment on?
What IS a big enough issue then?
Do you consider genocide equivalent to "Queers in the Military"?
Your apologias are running a bit thin.
And when he bends over forward for the Zionazis what will your excuse be then?
I like 'queers.' A whole lot better then I like bigoted fuss budgets like you.
Whatever Barack Obama did, you and your ilk would whine horribly about it.
If he spoke up you would be accusing him of neutralizing his effectiveness by creating a controversy about what is proper involvement politically for a president-elect and what is not.
You are a 'give them a fair trail before you hang him' sort. So why in the world should I care to be anything but rapturously amused and bemirthed by your butt headed sort of posturing?
I can really say I am not.
As for the gay in the military analogy you make no sense at all. You piously whine that the Gaza situation and the injustice toward gays and lesbians in the military are not remotely the same level of situation.
I actually agree with you, the genocide is a bigger story and issue. But think about it, Hasbro; if a lesser issue paralyzed and bedeviled Bill Clinton's new penny shiny presidency, what would a mis-step on a globally important issue possibly do to hurt President Obama who could have waited until 21 January 2009 to say or do something?
You also ignore the fact I am more then willing to criticize Obama if he does not remain consistent with his past rhetoric about the situation in the Middle East, or does not recognize that the status quo of how our mutual relationship with Israel under Bush cannot continue.
But then again, this too is not surprising, and consistent with the sort of behavior curmudgeon you are deep down inside are only capible of.
#60. To: Ferret Mike, christine, Wudidiz, TwentyTwelve, James Deffenbach, Jethro Tull, Scrapper2, CadetD, all (#53)
I like 'queers.' A whole lot better then I like bigoted fuss budgets like you.
Whatever trips your trigger. Far be it from to to choose your friends for you. That would be a little presumptuous don't you think? Although I don't find your preference surprising.
Whatever Barack Obama did, you and your ilk would whine horribly about it.
You know that to be true HOW?
Your prescient presumption?
Your comment displays primarily your complete failure to confront and understand the current situation. Oh'bummer is a Puppet just as the present Village Idiot is a Puppet, as was Klinton before him. Your failure to grasp the realities of the situation does not require me to show any sympathy toward your continued unwillingness to look at things as they are and not as you project them to be. Along that path, sympathy and ignorance, lies a very dark destination. Far from offending me I simply find your reactions sad and pathetic.
Because I do not worship at the altar of the latest front man for the ruling elites, and do not slavishly hang on every vague and pre-scripted utterance of the Obamessiah, means nothing more than I choose to observe what the facts dictate. It is not what I personally project onto the blank screen of vague utterances such as "change" and "hope" presented to provide a blank screen so that people can project their own hopes, without support or confirmation, assuming that their personal hopes and desired changes is exactly what the PsyOps Messiah means. So far the only change we have seen is replacement of the usual crowd of crooks and thieves with the usual crowd of crooks and thieves. My only hope is that we can survive the experience liberty intact, and no mind control police state clampdown. Thankfully the mind controlled segment of the population, which you represent, is shrinking and more people are becoming aware of the true state of affairs. I keep hoping you'll break out of the mental straightjacket which is the only reason I bother to do more than simply prick you with the various barbs at my disposal.
No, what aroused my pique was not any like or dislike of the empty suit ascending to the White House, but your insistence upon defending the empty suit's unwillingness to acknowledge or comment on the horrors of hell being visited upon the Palestinians by the Middle East's only Marxist Racist Democracy.
Ever seen what White Phosphorous does to a person? Ever smelled the sickeningly sweet odor of charred flesh or heard the screams of a person, and here many of them are children, in unbearable agony as they are chemically burned to death?
Perhaps the only thing I find just in the excursion into hell perpetrated by the Zionist State is that the 2 kilometer cloud of deadly Depleted Uranium dust, which will remain active in the environment as it has a half life of 4.5 Billion years, is carried by the prevailing winds back into Sodom and Gomorrah. And this is what is not important enough for your Messiah to bestir himself from his Golf Game to comment on and for which you attempt to justify by comparison to Klinton's ill spoken comments on Queers in the Military. Perhaps you find that compelling, but I doubt that anyone not in thrall to the Obamessiah PsyOp does.
As for the gay in the military analogy you make no sense at all. You piously whine that the Gaza situation and the injustice toward gays and lesbians in the military are not remotely the same level of situation.
And they are not. I don't care to be diverted into a long excursion on the point, but that you cannot see the difference between the hellish ravages of murder and destruction the Israelis are visiting upon a largely unarmed populace, which was near starvation from the existing blockade, and the unwillingness of some to grant license to perverted sexuality - well it simply illustrates the mindset you project. What is it like on the other side of the "Rabbit Hole"? Never mind, your reasoning is irrational and I am interested in rational commentary.
You also ignore the fact I am more then willing to criticize Obama if he does not remain consistent with his past rhetoric about the situation in the Middle East, or does not recognize that the status quo of how our mutual relationship with Israel under Bush cannot continue.
While you ignore and avert your perception from those whom is appointing to his cabinet - Rahm Emmanuel - who chose to serve in the Israeli Military et. al., .... You ignore his prostration before AIPAC and the Zionazis and his obeisannce to them already illustrated by his behavior and appointments. Your "criticism" is always placed as a potential in the future, maybe, someday, while ignoring current events and actions. You are living in lala land still projecting your own aspirations upon the canvas of blank slogans scripted for the Obamessiah.
As for my being a curmudgeon. Thank you, it's the nicest thing you had to say, and while I would be false in claiming the mantle bestowed I appreciate the thought.
I've only seen such effective usage of the King's English from those educated or raised in the UK. You've provided an excellent example of blistering verbal combat and the art of completely decontructing an opponent. It has the beauty of a revealed checkmate. Well done.