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Title: Kissinger: Obama can create a "new world order" - CNBC 1/5/09
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Published: Jan 5, 2009
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Post Date: 2009-01-05 09:42:20 by Jethro Tull
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Ah.....the year is only 5 days old and Henry Kissinger just mumbled the magic words - New World Order. He said that Obama is in a position to create it, thanks to all the global good will he is receiving. YouTube to follow shortly.
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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
that was before his silence on gaza, wasn't it?
He said it this AM at app. 9:30 EST.
It wouldn't help anyone to have a president-elect starting a contriversy about the current chain of command of government. Bush is accountible for his administration, not Obama. Obama's starts noon, eastern time on the 20th of this month. I support him not muddying the waters, I still remember how deep and lasting a problem Clinton had when he didn't chose his battles wisely upon assuming the presidency in regards to the gays in the military question, even though he was right; gays and lesbians should not be discriminated against. If Obama does not turn the screws on Israel upon assuming the presidency, this is a different matter. At the very least, the Israelis need a bit of tough love delivered to them. In the form of a deminishment or ceasing of support politically, and in terms of aid provided them. They are very wrong in this invasion of Gaza. It won't end the problems they want it to. It will exaerbate and expand it.
Isn't his silence troubling to you?
No. Because he has made it plain in past statements he has a different take on problems in this part of the world then Bush did. I would be troubled only had he spoken up and created a contriversy regarding the President-elect acting like he was the current POTUS. A large part of the reason I like Barack Obama is he has been good at avoiding such pratfalls. Had he spoken out and created a contriversy that would delay or make harder dealing with the situation there when he is actually in the position to make a real difference, then and only then would he create concern for me in regards to this.
Yeah well, while Gaza is being genocided, we can observe protocol and wait until inauguration day and see what's left if anything to make a statement about. Fait accompli.
Mikey, pardon me but, who the F*CK is Obingo to have a "different take on problems in this part of the world"? This world view is called IMPERIALISM 101. His only concern should be in America and Americans. Wake up, it's the new year. Get those foggy, NWO fascist views the hell out of your head. Thank you.
He will be president in just over two weeks. The disgusting apartheid-like system of the Zionist fanatics and it's diametrical opposite, the Islamic fundie that thinks all the world should become Islamic or die have fed and norished each other's blind hatred and intolerences for decades. It has blighted and hurt everyone else there between their opposing poles of the political spectrum in that part of the world a long time. Waiting two weeks until he is in power sure gives you a smal head of a pin to dance on to support your lament about the President-elect. Really, it would behoove you to wait until 20 January 2009 before condemning Obama for caution about what he says or does as president-elect. Let's see what he says or does when he takes office. It will mean a world of difference more then what a president-elect says. Especially one a wounded GOP is spoiling to get into a fight with right at the start of his term of office.
Howdy Tom, hope you are having a great new year. As far as your call to isolism goes, I do not support it. I do not support the current model of global trade that actualy hurts and opresses workers throughout the world, but we need a State Department and commitees in Congress about foreign affairs, because like it or not, we all all on the same planet - all people, everywhere - and this is a fact that will never change.
He's up on the hill running his yap for money today. 3M jobs lost in 2008. He's going to create 3M. 20% to be govt jobs. 600K more goobs. Obongo Corp. I hope some Otards will send postcards from the sunny beaches of Afghanistan..
"Wherever a Knave is not punished, an honest Man is laugh'd at." -- George Savile (1633-1695) At U.S. Taxpayer expense courtesy of the Cocaine Importation Agency (CIA for short). I can already predict what that will be - the Zionazi Party Line kill all the Arabs. You of course will applaud the decision as "statesman-like" and "Fair and Balanced".
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
Hi Mikey, all is well is here, thanks. I've decided to add a new resolution to my typical menu; no longer will I let unvarnished fascism disguised as liberalism go unchallenged. Time is too short a commodity to permit the supporters of global government a free pass. As for Obingo and his world view, he and his flacks are the enemy of freedom and our constitution. American men and women are homeless, w/o work and deeply in debt. We need protectionism and isolationism from madmen and their schemes, not another "new face" on the Middle East. Foreign wars aren't in America's best interest, as you know.
Let's see what he says or does when he takes office. It will mean a world of difference more then what a president-elect says. What choice is there at this juncture?
Oh. Bump this for further consideration/discussion around Feb. 1st. or so.
AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/NAACP/FEDERAL RESERVE/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA & HOLLYWOOD: Oh, those Islamofascists.
What choice is there at this juncture? And what dang difference does it make anyway?? It's only two weeks. Obama has been spouting forth on a wide variety of other issues. But Israeli barbarity gets the O'silent treatment.
AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/NAACP/FEDERAL RESERVE/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA & HOLLYWOOD: Oh, those Islamofascists.
Only Otards should do his war in Afghanistan. What we'll see, of course, is other peoples kids sent off to kill, while they send their own to schools like Sidwell Friends. What an elitist pack of crap our political class has become. Only a rube of the highest order would think the very people who have us knee deep in siht will be the ones to rescue us. Rubes; the perfect word for Otards.
But Mikey, Israel is running over Palestinians with American made tanks right now! Shouldn't Pre-President Obama condemn this viciousness immediately?
On Jan. 22, Obama will probably authorize Wall Street TARP money for emergency replacement of IDF ordnance.
AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/NAACP/FEDERAL RESERVE/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA & HOLLYWOOD: Oh, those Islamofascists.
Thirty thousand more grunts to Afghan. Obongo and the O'Piles will be at the airport to see them off and wave bon voyage. When they start coming back in coffins, Obongo and the O'Piles will be too busy saving the world to "welcome" them home. Damned hypocrites.
The "other kids" will be sent to the Afghanistan hell hole to do their "3 to indefinite" months of Rahmboesque mandatory "national service."
Obongo keeping warmonger Gates and 150 of his cohorts on as loyal servants in the Pentagon has been in the faces of those that put him in office. Change???? Appoints whites, no blacks, and mostly Jews for his "new" government. The white guilters must be wetting themselves trying to justify Obongo totally ignoring the blacks of this country.
Errrrr....Mike....by waiting until the 3rd week of January, the Palestinians will be an endangered species. Turning the screws [ whatever that means] on the Israelis at that late date will help the remaining traumatized Palestinians how???? Though Obama can't determine foreign policy now, a speech by Obama at a news conference televised around the world would certainly have Olmert and Livni think twice about continuing the brutality against the Palestinians.
I would be troubled only had he spoken up and created a contriversy regarding the President-elect acting like he was the current POTUS. A large part of the reason I like Barack Obama is he has been good at avoiding such pratfalls. Had he spoken out and created a contriversy that would delay or make harder dealing with the situation there when he is actually in the position to make a real difference, then and only then would he create concern for me in regards to this. That was a good apology for him. Cognitive dissonance is a powerful thing. Funny how he hasn't kept him, or his administration members, from flapping their lips on other subjects such as the plans to raise up a new Sturmabteilung corps.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition Countries Without a Draft circa 2001 (You'll need this soon if you have kids) RUN SILENT, RUN DEEP You are way too nice. Oboingo, owing no loyalty to THIS country, will send all. Cafe' Latte's and all.
"Wherever a Knave is not punished, an honest Man is laugh'd at." -- George Savile (1633-1695) Yes he will send all. Soon, it will be illegal to speak badly of Chimp II. OMG, I was comparing him to Bush with that term and now someone will call me a racist!! (Do you see how it's already begun?)
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition Countries Without a Draft circa 2001 (You'll need this soon if you have kids) RUN SILENT, RUN DEEP It's the card they chose to play to dupe the motards. It worked. The 'tards have proven they are the true souless, conscienceless, racist, split tongue demons. Like they care we know it. Bloodsucking vampires. If racist means you prefer humans to demons, the great many of us are guilty.
"Wherever a Knave is not punished, an honest Man is laugh'd at." -- George Savile (1633-1695) was he on a certain particular program when he said it?
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth. Morning Call with Mark Haines.
!! I'm sorry I missed that. What was Haines reaction?
"Wherever a Knave is not punished, an honest Man is laugh'd at." -- George Savile (1633-1695) It wouldn't help anyone to have a president-elect starting a contriversy about the current chain of command of government. Bush is accountible for his administration, not Obama. Obama's starts noon, eastern time on the 20th of this month. I support him not muddying the waters, I still remember how deep and lasting a problem Clinton had when he didn't chose his battles wisely upon assuming the presidency in regards to the gays in the military question, even though he was right; gays and lesbians should not be discriminated against. If Obama does not turn the screws on Israel upon assuming the presidency, this is a different matter. At the very least, the Israelis need a bit of tough love delivered to them. In the form of a deminishment or ceasing of support politically, and in terms of aid provided them. They are very wrong in this invasion of Gaza. It won't end the problems they want it to. It will exaerbate and expand it. So, genocide, ethnic cleansing, "liquidating the ghetto", is not a big enough issue for the Obamessiah to comment on? What IS a big enough issue then? Do you consider genocide equivalent to "Queers in the Military"? Your apologias are running a bit thin. And when he bends over forward for the Zionazis what will your excuse be then? I know you'll have one I'm just curious. I could use a little humor right about now.
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
thanks
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth. was there any other guests on with haines and kissinger at the time, if so who? thanks
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth. Exactly. You can count on Mikey to have an excuse for every illegal action, or as in this case failure to even comment, and bring some pressure to bear, on the liquidation of a ghetto. Kind of like when the Warsaw Ghetto was "liquidated". This is a first order abomination and the Obamessiah is busy "Golfing" and putting his little darlings into their exclusive private school. He's "too busy" to comment on Mass Murder, besides it would be inappropriate like Klinton commenting on "Queers in the Military".
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
They were standing on the floor after the opening bell and his reaction was zero, zip, zilch. He looked as if he were in the presence of the Lord.
Isn't that bone chilling? I have seen Haines react to a great many things, by way of body language that defies his words. Of course it was safe. I've allowed a little room for the moneytalkers to be ignorant of the true game at hand. Many appear just that stupid. Haines. No.. He knows, but knows to keep zipped for a paycheck. Maddening.
"Wherever a Knave is not punished, an honest Man is laugh'd at." -- George Savile (1633-1695) I really hate to inject race into this, but since it is about race (not color) I will. If the Palestinians were black, and the Gaza, Haiti, this wouldn't be happening because world pressure would never allow it. For the Palestinians to survive as a people, each family will have to welcome a willing black family into their home. Just as nuclear weapons deter American military intervention (N. Korea), a mixed black nation will prevent further Israeli genocide. Blacks....they're better than Aflac.
Haines was bristling during the TARP money argument - in a good way. That he didn't blink when the Lord mentioned the magic words isn't surprising. His Mother ship, GE, wouldn't have liked that.
I never cared all that much for him till he decided to stop Scarborough from interrupting his time. He brought a horn, and each time Joe started to yap, Haines would trigger this loud horn. It worked. I had a whole new appreciation for him for teaching that rude child a lesson. His Mother ship, GE, wouldn't have liked that. Ooh.. you're right. : [
"Wherever a Knave is not punished, an honest Man is laugh'd at." -- George Savile (1633-1695) ping/ "the lord" speaks
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition Countries Without a Draft circa 2001 (You'll need this soon if you have kids) RUN SILENT, RUN DEEP I really hate to inject race into this, but since it is about race (not color) I will. If the Palestinians were black, and the Gaza, Haiti, this wouldn't be happening because world pressure would never allow it. For the Palestinians to survive as a people, each family will have to welcome a willing black family into their home. Just as nuclear weapons deter American military intervention (N. Korea), a mixed black nation will prevent further Israeli genocide. Blacks....they're better than Aflac. I had a similar rumination. If the Palestinians were not on land that the Zionists wanted to steal, and another first world military was doing this to anyone - say Haiti for example - and Particularly if they were black Mikey would be having a cow and the U.S. Zionist Controlled Media would have wall-to-wall coverage of the human rights abuses, complete with lib'rul amounts of hand wringing and demands that the U.N. and U.S. do something about it. And of course the Obamessiah would be condemning it - "although I am not yet President I must speak out against this racist attack ...". We even have an example from recent history - when the Zionists attacked Russia through their "Cat's Paw" Georgia there was outrage when the Awful Russians attacked Georgia - or at least as it was played in the U.S. PsyOps Media. And of course the U.S. Feral Government sent in "defense supplies" to the Georgians (who had been massacring civilians per Israeli Doctrine). No the hypocrisy here does not extend only to the Obamessiah but it is striking how he is already toeing the Zionist Lyin'.
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestHe said that Obama is in a position to create it, thanks to all the global good will he is receiving.
#2. To: christine (#1)
#3. To: christine (#1)
"that was before his silence on gaza, wasn't it?"
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#4. To: Ferret Mike (#3)
If Obama does not turn the screws on Israel upon assuming the presidency, this is a different matter.
#5. To: angle (#4)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#6. To: Ferret Mike (#5)
#7. To: Ferret Mike, all (#5)
No. Because he has made it plain in past statements he has a different take on problems in this part of the world then Bush did.
#8. To: angle (#6)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#9. To: Jethro Tull (#7)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#10. To: Jethro Tull (#7)
His only concern should be in America and Americans.
"Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth." -- Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)
#11. To: Ferret Mike (#8)
He will be president in just over two weeks. The disgusting apartheid-like system of the Zionist fanatics and it's diametrical opposite, the Islamic fundie that thinks all the world should become Islamic or die have fed and norished each other's blind hatred and intolerences for decades.
Let's see what he says or does when he takes office. It will mean a world of difference more then what a president-elect says.
#12. To: Ferret Mike (#9)
#13. To: Ferret Mike (#8)
it would behoove you to wait until 20 January 2009 before condemning Obama for caution about what he says or does as president-elect.
#14. To: Ferret Mike (#3)
If Obama does not turn the screws on Israel upon assuming the presidency, this is a different matter.
#15. To: angle, Ferret Mike (#13)
(Edited)
it would behoove you to wait until 20 January 2009 before condemning Obama for caution about what he says or does as president-elect. Let's see what he says or does when he takes office. It will mean a world of difference more then what a president-elect says.
#16. To: OliviaFNewton (#10)
I hope some Otards will send postcards from the sunny beaches of Afghanistan..
#17. To: Ferret Mike (#8)
it would behoove you to wait until 20 January 2009 before condemning Obama
#18. To: Jethro Tull (#16)
#19. To: Jethro Tull (#16)
#20. To: Jethro Tull (#16)
What we'll see, of course, is other peoples kids sent off to kill, while they send their own to schools like Sidwell Friends.
#21. To: scrapper2 (#20)
#22. To: Ferret Mike (#3)
If Obama does not turn the screws on Israel upon assuming the presidency, this is a different matter. At the very least, the Israelis need a bit of tough love delivered to them.
#23. To: Ferret Mike, ALL (#5)
(Edited)
No. Because he has made it plain in past statements he has a different take on problems in this part of the world then Bush did.
"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
#24. To: Jethro Tull (#16)
Only Otards should do his war in Afghanistan. What we'll see, of course, is other peoples kids sent off to kill, while they send their own to schools like Sidwell Friends. What an elitist pack of crap our political class has become. Only a rube of the highest order would think the very people who have us knee deep in siht will be the ones to rescue us. Rubes; the perfect word for Otards.
"Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth." -- Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)
#25. To: OliviaFNewton, christine, jethro tull, psusa, cynicom (#24)
Oboingo, owing no loyalty to THIS country, will send all
"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
#26. To: IndieTX (#25)
Yes he will send all. Soon, it will be illegal to speak badly of Chimp II. OMG, I was comparing him to Bush with that term and now someone will call me a racist!! (Do you see how it's already begun?)
"Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth." -- Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)
#27. To: Jethro Tull (#2)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#28. To: Artisan (#27)
was he on a certain particular program when he said it?
#29. To: Jethro Tull (#28)
Morning Call with Mark Haines.
"Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth." -- Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)
#30. To: Ferret Mike, christine, all (#3)
"that was before his silence on gaza, wasn't it?"
#31. To: Jethro Tull (#28)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#32. To: Jethro Tull (#28)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#33. To: angle, Weasel Mike, Ferret Mike, Obamapologists, O'bots, Israbots, Hasbarfa, Anyone with a conscience, Anyone with a sense of humanity, all (#6)
(Edited)
Yeah well, while Gaza is being genocided, we can observe protocol and wait until inauguration day and see what's left if anything to make a statement about. Fait accompli.
#34. To: OliviaFNewton (#29)
What was Haines reaction?
#35. To: Jethro Tull (#34)
They were standing on the floor after the opening bell and his reaction was zero, zip, zilch. He looked as if he were in the presence of the Lord.
"Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth." -- Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)
#36. To: Original_Intent, Mike, all (#33)
(Edited)
on the liquidation of a ghetto
#37. To: OliviaFNewton (#35)
Haines. No.. He knows, but knows to keep zipped for a paycheck.
#38. To: Jethro Tull (#37)
Haines was bristling during the TARP money argument - in a good way.
"Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth." -- Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)
#39. To: Jethro Tull, REDPANTHER (#0)
Kissinger just mumbled the magic words - New World Order. He said that Obama is in a position to create it
"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
#40. To: Jethro Tull, Weasel Mike, all (#36)
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on the liquidation of a ghetto
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