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Title: Hearing Impaired Man Tased by Police
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URL Source: http://www.kwch.com/global/story.asp?s=7446220
Published: Jan 5, 2009
Author: by Michael Schwanke
Post Date: 2009-01-05 12:10:22 by gengis gandhi
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Hearing Impaired Man Tased by Police Posted: Dec 3, 2007 10:35 PM Updated: Dec 5, 2007 12:35 PM by Michael Schwanke (Wichita, KS) Donnell Williams had just gotten out of the bath tub, wearing only a towel around his waist, when he turned the corner to see guns pointing right at him. "I ain't never been so scared," says Williams. Police forced entry into Williams home while responding to a shooting, but it turned out to be a false call. They had no idea at the time the call wasn't real and that Williams is hearing impaired. Without his hearing aid he is basically deaf. "I kept going to my ear yelling that I was scared. I can't hear! I can't hear!" Officers were worried about their own safety because at the time it appeared Williams was refusing to obey their commands to show his hands. That's when they shot him with a Taser. Deputy Chief Robert Lee of the Wichita Police Department says, "This one occurred on the worst of calls, that being a shooting. The first few minutes getting control of the scene are very, very important." Once the facts were all sorted out, officers repeatedly apologized to Williams. Police wish it never happened, but with the information they had at the time, their choices were limited. "Do I wish there would have been some way they were notified in advance this gentleman was hearing impaired? I certainly do. No one is happy with the way it worked out," says Lee. Williams was not hurt in the incident. Police say the shooting call came from a cell phone but they still don't know who made it or why. The case is being reviewed by the department. AddThis Social Bookmark Button
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#1. To: gengis gandhi (#0)
Oh, I'm sure they are worried and apologized repeatedly. This one is likely to cost the city a handsome purse. The JBT's should of course be held accountable for poor judgement, excuse me a man with a towel around his waist is not exactly in a position to hide ANYTHING saving a little dignity. Stupid cowardly Pigs afeared for their lives from a man with a towel around his waist. Give me a fuckin' break.
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
who needs a gun with 13 rounds when you have a towel?....I mean, there is no reason to have a gun when the police will protect you... unspeakable moral refuse.
if a people will not prosecute officials who subvert and violate the constitution, then the constitution has no authority over officials. Gengis Gandhi, Troubled Genius
Bullshit. They know who makes cellphone calls. "I kept going to my ear yelling that I was scared. I can't hear! I can't hear!" Officers were worried about their own safety because at the time it appeared Williams was refusing to obey their commands to show his hands. That's when they shot him with a Taser. ... "Do I wish there would have been some way they were notified in advance this gentleman was hearing impaired? I certainly do. No one is happy with the way it worked out," says Lee. Notice the discrepancy? The case is being reviewed by the department. and I am sure they will do a thorough job. Of covering their collective asses. .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Nehemiah 4:14 And I looked and arose and said to the nobles and to the officials and to the rest of the people, “Do not be afraid of them. Remember the Lord, who is great and awesome, and fight for your brothers, your sons, your daughters, your wives, and your homes.”
Concur.
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
"I ain't never been so scared," says Williams. Police forced entry into Williams home while responding to a shooting, but it turned out to be a false call. They had no idea at the time the call wasn't real and that Williams is hearing impaired. Without his hearing aid he is basically deaf. "I kept going to my ear yelling that I was scared. I can't hear! I can't hear!" Officers were worried about their own safety because at the time it appeared Williams was refusing to obey their commands to show his hands. That's when they shot him with a Taser. OK. Is everyone in shock (pun intended) or have we all been effectively numbed by these stories? (If you have, that's intentional.) How many more times will this happen before someone gets a clue that "We're not in Kansas anymore?" The Sheople will go quietly. Abandon all hope. We've forged our own chains.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition Countries Without a Draft circa 2001 (You'll need this soon if you have kids) RUN SILENT, RUN DEEP I wasn't over the last one where the cops assumed a motorist was uncooperative when trying to remove him from his vehicle so they lit him up only to find that he was diabetic and nearly in a coma. The M.O. seems to be, "if you fail to follow the command you will be punished and we'll decide later whether it was justified." If not then you had better take steps to inform arresting officers in the future if you don't want it it happen to you again. Remember, the reason these things keep happening is because it ain't the cops who are suffering. If it was they'd solve the problem with the required policy changes PDQ.
Policies have changed but not for the safety of the pork. A tazer probably comes under the definition of Force in the Texas Penal Code. It can be argued that it should be defined as Deadly Force. Given this... Let us go back about 25 years and see if officers "choked out" (the most used "Force" at that time) everyone who failed to follow an officer's simplest command. This was usually always seen as improper use of unjustifiable force, especially if used on someone who was not male or who was not young, and who was NOT resisting arrest (you were not seen as RESISTING if you merely failed to follow a command!!!!) and was usually investigated by IA, and was, as tazers have been, responsible for several deaths. In the case of choking, death resulted from crushing and the later swelling of the airway, sometimes even after the complainant was in jail and no longer being observed. We see a new attitude with tazers. Open season on civilians. "Resisting" has now become "failure to obey ANY order" when it never was before. I can not explain it but it is definitely there. It's now accepted as status quo and acceptable, just as racism against whites is. I believe it is intentional that we are being fed these incidents in order to "get used to it." We have. "Resisting arrest" could not be successfully prosecuted 25 years ago by someone merely failing to obey a command. Evidently, it can now, or we have a lot of cops using unlawful force and getting away with it.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition Countries Without a Draft circa 2001 (You'll need this soon if you have kids) RUN SILENT, RUN DEEP Law Enforcement Against Prohibition Countries Without a Draft circa 2001 (You'll need this soon if you have kids) RUN SILENT, RUN DEEP This, and many other things, would have been unthinkable when I was a kid. There was no reason to fear, or hate, cops. It's because they left the peaceful people alone, at least in my town. And, you could actually hold a decent conversation with them. Not anymore. How much worse can it get? Right now, this very second, we'd be within our rights to take our rifles into the street and end it this very second. But unfortunately for me, it wont happen on my timing. It can't happen soon enough. .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Nehemiah 4:14 And I looked and arose and said to the nobles and to the officials and to the rest of the people, “Do not be afraid of them. Remember the Lord, who is great and awesome, and fight for your brothers, your sons, your daughters, your wives, and your homes.”
Seems their brains were limited as well.
Of this there is no doubt. It will all be justified in the end.
ping its high time the police getthier ne w tys taken away from them they repeated demonstrated thier unwillingness to play nice with others once they have them
Americans used to roar like lions for liberty. Now they bleat like sheep for security If he pointed to his ears, yelling "I can't hear," then the police saw his hands. This is going to cost the city some big ones.
Have pug, will laugh.
hell, not to mention if they say they called him on his cell phone
if a people will not prosecute officials who subvert and violate the constitution, then the constitution has no authority over officials. Gengis Gandhi, Troubled Genius
No, we're definitely being conditioned to accept "summary execution of sentence/punishment" on the side of the road. To be TASERed by a police officer is to be guilty and the courts' presumption is, "It must have been a reasonable and necessary use of force. We know this because the officer used the TASER on your dumb ass!" Now, what isn't well known is, the manufacturer uses their own stats that "prove" that the weapon is "the most effective non lethal option on the market!", but what they don't say is they've quietly settled many lawsuits to avoid adverse jury verdicts that would affect their guerilla marketing of "blue lightning" to law enforcement agencies. This is another interesting factoid from wiki: "Taser and its supporters in the police community regularly attribute the cause of deaths that follow Tasering to "excited delirium", a phenomenon in which agitated or disturbed individuals being apprehended by police respond in an irrational, bizarre and hyperactive manner. Critics argue that as this alleged condition only exists in relationship to being apprehended by police, its existence is dubious.[46] Grame Norton, director of the public safety project of the Canadian Civil Liberties Association argues that "Anytime you see a specific condition being referenced in only one context it raises serious question." Other critics assert that the term is used to mask police brutality. While the term "excited delirium" has been accepted by the National Association of Medical Examiners (the same hacks who routinely rule things such as "5 shots in the chest from a high powered rifle by a witness to the JFK assassination was suicide"-HD) in the United States it has been rejected by the American Medical Association while the Canadian Medical Association Journal dismisses it as a "pop culture phenomenon".[46] The condition is not recognized by the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. Police psychologist Mike Webster testified at a British Columbia inquiry into Taser deaths that police have been "brainwashed" by Taser International to justify "ridiculously inappropriate" use of the electronic weapon. He called "excited delirium" a "dubious disorder" used by Taser International in its training of police." How's that for inculpatory testimony? You can certainly see why TASER INTERNATIONAL will hire the most gifted legal hitmen to guarantee that juries never hear the things that could result in catastrophic jury settlements or restricting its use except in situations where deadly force is clearly justified but discharging firearms may pose unacceptable risks to innocent bystanders. Of course the last thing the cops want is "another firearm with an extremely limited range". No, they want a pain compliance device that can be used for attitude adjustments, especially now that cops are increasingly more belligerent (the role of law enforcement is not the same as that of a peace officer) and people are resisting more than ever. The fact that cops are screened to limit the hiring of officers with above average IQs means that those who are hired, while less likely to be concerned about legally questionable orders and policies are more likely to be stressed by the job and already reaching critical mass when a citizen doesn't bend her/his knee on command. I still maintain that only an idiot decides to challenge the cops on the street. We have a chance of winning in court (cops fail to show, evidence is lost, witnesses bungle testimony, juries favor defendants, etc.,) but a zero chance of beating them on the street. In most cases when mouthy "ROADSIDE SCHOLARS" get their dumb asses TASERed it is completely avoidable, they lose more than they'll ever gain even if their cases are "YOUTUBE HITS" and they risk serious, life changing injuries and even death for chickenshit misdemeanor charges or even lesser infractions. In my mind that is bad economy, and it makes me wonder if people are increasingly less equipped to assess and cope with the dangers of living in a post-modern, post-industrial police state. (And, suppose you're underground and the choice is being ticketed with your phony ID or going to jail and being positively identified? Which would you choose?) In short, "you can beat the charge but you can't beat the ride", so don't get your ass TASERed because nothing worthwhile can be gained from it. I've been accused of being "pro police abuse" because I was unsympathetic to stupid doo wahs who refuse to follow orders. But, some say things like, "UH UH, I'm on da phone, honky pig mutha fukka! You DON'T BE TELLIN ME WHAT TO DO 'CAUSE I BE CALLIN' MY MAMA!" Well, not anymore. When they're rolling on the ground and screaming bloody murder a few seconds later, I say to myself, "I would have anticipated and avoided that because either way I'm going to jail (or, going to jail was not the plan until I showed my ass) and, given a choice (and with a little self control) it will be without being TASERed." I can cope with the indignity of a traffic citation without angering the agent who can light my ass up and get clean away with it. Is that so wrong? I can still be opposed to the widespread use of the weapon as "an attitude adjustment through pain compliance" device without inviting the cop to use it on my ass. Right? And THAT is why I'm unsympathetic to the stupids who can't seem to think three steps ahead and avoid needless trauma that could last a lifetime. I keep seeing young firepissers post the same thing; "It's time to start capping these goddam cops!" Would they actually murder someone for being an arrogant state worshiping functionary who intends to give them a traffic ticket? If so, then by what logic or moral reasoning are they better than the abusive cop that they have the irresistible urge to kill? If the superstate decides to abandon the TASER they'll do it, and if they don't they won't. Either way nothing I do that's captured on dash cam is going to make one bit of difference.
"MY GRANDFATHER'S WORK WAS DEW DEW!___Victor Frankenstein
Officers were worried about their own safety because at the time it appeared Williams was refusing to obey their commands to show his hands. Where the heck could his hands have been? One holding his towel, and one going to his ear! Is that a pistol in your towel or are you happy to see us?
I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise. people might have some respect for cops if they would at least occasionally, admit blame when the evidence is so clear.
if a people will not prosecute officials who subvert and violate the constitution, then the constitution has no authority over officials. Gengis Gandhi, Troubled Genius
That's why I am of the opinion that they are all bad. Not just some, but all of them. Every single one of them. No exceptions, ever. At least one of those cops knows that it was so wrong, but he ain't saying anything, so he's as bad or worse. They are all bad!
I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise. Doesn't that just kill you? I'd be laughing my ass off if it wasn't so scary.
I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise. yep just like any other group of criminals.
if a people will not prosecute officials who subvert and violate the constitution, then the constitution has no authority over officials. Gengis Gandhi, Troubled Genius
they probably were waiting for him to drop the soap
if a people will not prosecute officials who subvert and violate the constitution, then the constitution has no authority over officials. Gengis Gandhi, Troubled Genius
#2. To: Original_Intent (#1)
#3. To: gengis gandhi (#0)
Police say the shooting call came from a cell phone but they still don't know who made it or why.
#4. To: gengis gandhi (#2)
unspeakable moral refuse.
#5. To: gengis gandhi, jethro tull, rotara, psusa, all (#0)
(Edited)
Donnell Williams had just gotten out of the bath tub, wearing only a towel around his waist, when he turned the corner to see guns pointing right at him.
"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
#6. To: IndieTX (#5)
OK. Is everyone in shock (pun intended) or have we all been effectively numbed by these stories?
#7. To: HOUNDDAWG, JETHRO TULL, CHRISTINE, PSUSA, ROTARA, TWENTYTWELVE, original_intent, formerlurker (#6)
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"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
#8. To: PSUSA (#7)
PING
"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
#9. To: IndieTX (#8)
#10. To: gengis gandhi (#0)
Police wish it never happened, but with the information they had at the time, their choices were limited.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who
#11. To: PSUSA (#3)
and I am sure they will do a thorough job. Of covering their collective asses.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who
#12. To: gengis gandhi, *Jack-Booted Thugs*, *libertarians* (#0)
#13. To: gengis gandhi (#0)
#14. To: Turtle (#13)
#15. To: IndieTX, TwentyTwelve.christine, lodwick, Jethro Tull (#7)
(Edited)
Policies have changed but not for the safety of the pork. A tazer probably comes under the definition of Force in the Texas Penal Code. It can be argued that it should be defined as Deadly Force. Given this...
#16. To: gengis gandhi (#0)
Donnell Williams had just gotten out of the bath tub, wearing only a towel around his waist
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#17. To: Critter (#16)
#18. To: gengis gandhi (#17)
people might have some respect for cops if they would at least occasionally, admit blame when the evidence is so clear.
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#19. To: Original_Intent (#1)
Stupid cowardly Pigs afeared for their lives from a man with a towel around his waist.
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#20. To: Critter (#18)
#21. To: Critter (#19)
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