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Title: If you think that I'm going to bump your Nazi thread, you're nuts.
Source: randge
URL Source: [None]
Published: Jan 7, 2009
Author: randge
Post Date: 2009-01-07 09:49:29 by randge
Keywords: Nazi, propaganda, film
Views: 986
Comments: 28

If you think that I'm going to bump your Nazi thread, you're out of your mind.

I have my oen personal reasons for my distaste for the National Socialists and their works.

The Nazis were enemies of the free and open exchange of opinion and betrayed their own people. The brought hell down upon them. They stripped citizens and non-citizens of their rights and destroyed them.

I resent the repeated posting of National Socialist propaganda imagery on this forum. I hold this place and most of its posters in high regard. Posts of this kind are part of an attempt to tarnish this forum. I won't conspire with you in this effort.

You know who I'm referring to.

Now bugger off.

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#8. To: randge (#0)

I resent the repeated posting of National Socialist propaganda imagery on this forum.

X-15  posted on  2009-01-07   12:35:35 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: X-15 (#8)

Onkel Adolf give you a hard on then??

randge  posted on  2009-01-07   12:44:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: randge (#9)

Just being a smartass ;-)

X-15  posted on  2009-01-07   12:47:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: X-15 (#10)

You're a card X-15.

My old man had to fight the whole goddamn war cause of this guy. Then he had to spend three years in a British camp as a POW. Brits let them go in '48. His regiment had 90 percent casualties.

Never heard a kind word about this man in my house.

randge  posted on  2009-01-07   12:56:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: randge (#11)

Brits let them go in '48.

Care to fill us in on the details of that lasting until 1948?

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-07   13:06:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Cynicom (#13)

My dad was regular army, recon. He was retreating with his unit in Italy. He was supposed to be blowing up Italian factories, but he found it more rewarding to accept meals from Italian managers and taking the dynamite elsewheres to blow up for show. Eventually his forces were dispersed by advancing allied troops and he found himself cut off alone in a farm building.

He was surrounded by Ghurkas, and threw his rifle out of the window and surrendered. He told me that the Ghurka soldiers started dancing with their blades and he thought his time was up. At that moment, British lieutenant pulled up in a Jeep and took him prisoner.

I believe that because Britain was dismantling German industrial assets at the time and also because of a history of veteran political activity after 1918, the Brits and other allies thought it prudent to keep POW's out of circulation for a number of years after the war. Some of those captured on the Eastern Front didn't make it back until the fifties. Others didn't make it back at all.

My dad was shipped to Egypt, where he ran a machine shop for a British colonel. I have a letter of commendation from that officer somewhere. It helped my dad get a job in Canada in 1949.

I also had an uncle in the machine tool business who had already immigrated to New Yord in the 1920's. He wrote letters to the British government urging them to release regular army prisoners like my father. The allies had their own agenda, however. When they finally released him, my dad was shipped back through Hamburg. That letter of commendation, his military ID and a regulation British army shoe brush were just about all the possessions that he had. I still have them today.

I didn't intend to wax on this extensively in answer to your question, but there you are. However, just to fill things out, no my father didn't spend all those years after the war as a POW because he was a Nazi or a member of the SS. (The SS by the way was branded as a criminal organization, and members were barred from immigration.)

Our family was Social Democrat on both sides and voted that way. My dad was a machinist and an engineering student and a singer. He had a bright future ahead of him, but his hopes came to an end with the war. He made sergeant and managed to keep his nose out of the dirt in all the reprisal and slaughter in Yugoslavia.

My father came home to nothing. His dad had died. The family had been bombed out of several homes, and his sisters had spent all his pay because they were out of work. Tough shit.

My dad taught me to hate war and totalitarianism. He passed away in 2006.

randge  posted on  2009-01-07   13:50:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: randge (#20)

I didn't intend to wax on this extensively in answer to your question, but there you are.

Thank you very much..

Indeed wax in greater detail anytime on PM, I would be most appreciative.

Two things come to mind here.

Here in the hills we had several POW camps, the "prisoners" were given a pass once a week to go into town to the movies. All on their own and on their own word. They worked by day on the local farms, no guards, nothing. Americans were truly beastly. In fact many wanted to stay and some did, never went back.

Two...One of my mentors was the Godson of Dr. Schacht, Hitlers finance minister until he quit and was sent to Dachou. So I do have a passing knowledge prewar Germany.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-07   13:58:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Cynicom (#22)

Interesting post.

My dad got out too at times. Against orders. There wasn't much needed in terms of infrastucture to keep German prisoners from escaping in the middle of the Egyptian desert. Just barbed wire.

Sometimes Bedouin camped nearby and my dad and others managed to creep out at night to sit by their fires. The Arabs made a great show of hospitality for them and laid out the sheesha for them to smoke. They had to crawl back by dawn.

My dad repaired equipment for the British army and he had a lot of brass tube stock. He found that he could cut them up and polish them as rings and jewelry to sell to the locals. One day an indigannt Bedou rode into their enclosure on his horse and threw a ring at my old man and hollered, "German gold no good.!"

My old man was good that way. He used to set up little gas stations along the way wherever he was, consolidating the leftover gas in jerry cans to sell to officers for their personal trips. He was a clever guy and a survivor.

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#26. To: randge (#23)

Sounds like your father did better than a lot of Germans in Eisenhower's death camps:

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=91316

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