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Title: Chinese Sub Pops Up Undetected Near U.S.S. Kitty Hawk During Exercise
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URL Source: http://www.nationalterroralert.com/ ... ss-kitty-hawk-during-exercise/
Published: Jan 8, 2009
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2009-01-08 15:55:16 by noone222
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An unexpected visit by a Chinese Submarine that went undetected in the middle of a Pacific Ocean Naval exercise and came extremely close to the U.S.S. Kitty Hawk, has American military chiefs looking for answers. The sub was apparently able to slip past at least a dozen U.S. warships, two U.S. submarines and a vast array of advanced technology, which failed to detect it. When the Navy deploys a battle fleet on exercises, they take the security of the aircraft carriers very seriously. At least a dozen warships are used to provide a physical guard, and using advanced technology they are able to detect and deter any potential intruders. By the time the Chinese sub surfaced, the 160ft Song Class diesel-electric attack submarine sailed within viable range for launching torpedoes or missiles at the U.S.S. Kitty Hawk, a 1,000ft. super carrier with 4,500 military personnel on-board. According to senior NATO officials, the incident caused a sense of sudden fear in the U.S. Navy, as officials realized the seriousness of the encounter. The U.S. apparently had no idea just how sophisticated China’s fast-growing submarine fleet had become, or that they even posed such a threat. Analysts believe that China was sending a message to the United States and the West by demonstrating their rapidly growing military capability to threaten foreign powers that might try to interfere in their own “backyard.” The U.S. Navy and Nato are now forced to re-think their strategy, and reconsider the level of threat posed from potentially hostile Chinese submarines. The uninvited guest: Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise, leaving military chiefs red-faced By MATTHEW HICKLEY Last updated at 00:13 10 November 2007 When the U.S. Navy deploys a battle fleet on exercises, it takes the security of its aircraft carriers very seriously indeed. At least a dozen warships provide a physical guard while the technical wizardry of the world's only military superpower offers an invisible shield to detect and deter any intruders. That is the theory. Or, rather, was the theory. Uninvited guest: A Chinese Song Class submarine, like the one that sufaced by the U.S.S. Kitty Hawk American military chiefs have been left dumbstruck by an undetected Chinese submarine popping up at the heart of a recent Pacific exercise and close to the vast U.S.S. Kitty Hawk - a 1,000ft supercarrier with 4,500 personnel on board. By the time it surfaced the 160ft Song Class diesel-electric attack submarine is understood to have sailed within viable range for launching torpedoes or missiles at the carrier. According to senior Nato officials the incident caused consternation in the U.S. Navy. The Americans had no idea China's fast-growing submarine fleet had reached such a level of sophistication, or that it posed such a threat. One Nato figure said the effect was "as big a shock as the Russians launching Sputnik" - a reference to the Soviet Union's first orbiting satellite in 1957 which marked the start of the space age. The incident, which took place in the ocean between southern Japan and Taiwan, is a major embarrassment for the Pentagon. Scroll down for more ... Battle stations: The Kitty Hawk carries 4,500 personnel The lone Chinese vessel slipped past at least a dozen other American warships which were supposed to protect the carrier from hostile aircraft or submarines. And the rest of the costly defensive screen, which usually includes at least two U.S. submarines, was also apparently unable to detect it. According to the Nato source, the encounter has forced a serious re-think of American and Nato naval strategy as commanders reconsider the level of threat from potentially hostile Chinese submarines. It also led to tense diplomatic exchanges, with shaken American diplomats demanding to know why the submarine was "shadowing" the U.S. fleet while Beijing pleaded ignorance and dismissed the affair as coincidence. Analysts believe Beijing was sending a message to America and the West demonstrating its rapidly-growing military capability to threaten foreign powers which try to interfere in its "backyard". The People's Liberation Army Navy's submarine fleet includes at least two nuclear-missile launching vessels. Its 13 Song Class submarines are extremely quiet and difficult to detect when running on electric motors. Commodore Stephen Saunders, editor of Jane's Fighting Ships, and a former Royal Navy anti-submarine specialist, said the U.S. had paid relatively little attention to this form of warfare since the end of the Cold War. He said: "It was certainly a wake-up call for the Americans. "It would tie in with what we see the Chinese trying to do, which appears to be to deter the Americans from interfering or operating in their backyard, particularly in relation to Taiwan." In January China carried a successful missile test, shooting down a satellite in orbit for the first time.
Poster Comment: Has this been posted before now ? It's dated Nov. 10, 2008 ... I hadn't seen it and thought maybe others had missed it. This is incredible if true.
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#1. To: noone222 (#0)
this is the first time I've seen it and kinda surprising really, would have expecteded to find it here within a day or two, ya'all are the best at findin this stuff
It's been posted before. I do not believe the sub was undetected. The Navy probably said they didn't detect it so they can howl, "We need more money to fight off the inscutable yellow peril!"
Have pug, will laugh.
My local county prosecutor made me aware of it a couple of days ago ... I hadn't really checked it out until today. He said he found it on this website: I couldn't find it there but that may be because of the original reporting date. Seems to me that something so outrageous would get reported on the Mainstream National Media. George Friedman is an American political scientist and author. He is the founder, chief intelligence officer, financial overseer, and CEO of the private intelligence corporation Stratfor. Friedman was born in Hungary to Holocaust survivor parents. I did find the information in other publications besides stratfor ... but whenever I find a Jew in the wood-pile ... I must admit to scepticism.
In the age of super-spin it's often difficult to make concrete determinations, especially when official governmental agencies or quasi official sources are responsible for the info. That being said, this admission is too embarrassing for the Military Industrial Complex to make just for an increased budget. They have no problem with increasing their budgets without justifications such as this admission.
Who dat? 1 .Russian tu-195 buzzes Nimitz 2/2008 2. Russian Fighters buzz Kitty Hawk and Email Back Photos 10/2000 3. Russian Tupolev flew over the aircraft carrier USS Kitty Hawk in the Sea of Japan on 1/29/2004 4. (a) Chinese Sub Plays Peekaboo with US Carrier 11/2006 4. (b)Chinese Sub Approaches US Carrier Undetected [Alledgedly] 5. Chinese sub has U.S. military concerned (Unexpected) 11/2007
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition Countries Without a Draft circa 2001 (You'll need this soon if you have kids) RUN SILENT, RUN DEEP Indie, do any of those articles admit to the Ruskies instantly appearing without being detected ???
From #4. "The Navy will not generally comment on whether they detected the Chinese submarine or not. Any decision to do so would have to take place at the level of the Pentagon or higher. The reasoning is simple: you don’t want the enemy to know your vulnerabilities OR your capabilities." In other words, assume nothing from what the MSM writes. We won't really know and neither will the enemy. I'm sure if it got out to the MSM, it was probably planned that way. The Russians were all detected it appears, though the timeliness of the "detection" may be in question.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition Countries Without a Draft circa 2001 (You'll need this soon if you have kids) RUN SILENT, RUN DEEP Let's just say, the story is more true the not..
Well, this should not be surprising. We have been giving, outsourcing, or letting China steal our technology for quite a few years now. What do you expect?
Has this been posted before now ? It's dated Nov. 10, 2008 ... I hadn't seen it and thought maybe others had missed it. This is incredible if true.
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#3. To: Amandil (#1)
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would have expecteded to find it here within a day or two, ya'all are the best at findin this stuff
#4. To: Turtle (#2)
I do not believe the sub was undetected.
#5. To: noone222 (#0)
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undetected Chinese submarine popping up at the heart of a recent Pacific exercise and close to the vast U.S.S. Kitty Hawk
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#7. To: noone222 (#6)
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"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
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