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Title: Israel: God's Chosen People
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Published: Jan 10, 2009
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Post Date: 2009-01-10 01:00:43 by Old Friend
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The Jewish people are God's chosen people. In a world where there is increasing anti-Semitism, God is still in control. There is absolutely no evidence in the Bible where God rejects the Jewish people as His chosen people. There is no evidence where God is for anti-Semitism. In fact, the roots of Christianity is in Judaism. In the Book of Exodus, the same God that Christians worshipped the last 2000 years is the exact same God as the "Lord God of the Hebrews" (Exodus 3:18). The Bible was written by men and inspired by God thousands of years before Christianity. The Jews were held in captivity by the Egyptians for over 400 years.

God constantly reminded the Jewish people, who were called Israelites in the Old Testament of their freedom from slavery. He was the same God that commanded the people to worship Him and obey all of His commandments and walk in His judgements. Even though God's people has disobeyed the Lord, they have been forgiven by Him after they repented and returned to Him. They are God's people by covenant. To Abram (Abraham), He said that He will make of him a great nation. (Genesis 12:2) He has also said that He will bless those who bless them and curse those that curse Israel. (Gen. 12:3) Throughout history, every nation that has oppressed or cursed the Jewish people are either no longer in existence or have had to suffer various consequences as a result. Two examples that come to mind are Germany and ancient Egypt.

While it is true that many of the Jewish people have rejected Jesus, there is never any excuse for bigotry and anti-Semitism. Many of the first Christian believers, all 12 disciples, the writers of the Bible, and Jesus Himself are all Jews. Paul, a Jew, wrote most of the entire New Testament or some of the books were based on His letters. "Salvation is of the Jews" (John 4:22). Jesus came to save the Jewish people. He is still the Messiah of the Jewish people. Romans 1:16 says that "It is the power of God unto salvation to the Jew first, then to the Gentile."

The birth and ministry of the Messiah has been prophesied in the Old Testament books of Psalms, Isaiah, and Zechariah. Isaiah 45:17 says, " [But] Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end." Israel will always be God's chosen people. In Revelation 7:4-8, 144,000 Jewish will have the seals of God written on their foreheads. God will not break His covenant with the Jewish people, nor will He. In Isaiah 46: 13, Israel is "my glory". In Israel 49:3, Israel is God's servant, in whom they will be glorified. Isaiah 49:6 also says, "And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth." Do not believe the lies that God is not the God of the Jewish people or it is okay to hate them because "they killed Jesus."

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The Jewish people are God's chosen people. In a world where there is increasing anti-Semitism, God is still in control. There is absolutely no evidence in the Bible where God rejects the Jewish people as His chosen people.

NOT true.

I'm not going to comment on this one at this time....just going to throw it out there to dispute this person's word. After you have read the rest of this post, maybe you can come back and see the ultimate fate of Israel.

Jer 3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/B...cfm?b=Jer&c=3&v=8&t=KJV#8 / http://www.blueletterbible.org/s...k.cfm?b=Jer&c=3&v=8&t=KJV

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Isa 64:6 But we are all as an unclean [thing], and all our righteousnesses [are] as filthy rags; [no white robes there!] and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

Isa 64:7 And [there is] none that calleth upon thy name, that stirreth up himself to take hold of thee: for thou hast hid thy face from us, and hast consumed us, because of our iniquities.

Isa 64:10 Thy holy cities are a wilderness, Zion is a wilderness, Jerusalem a desolation.

Isa 64:11 Our holy and our beautiful house, where our fathers praised thee, is burned up with fire: and all our pleasant things are laid waste...

www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Isa&c=64&v=1&t=KJV

**** Now....There are two Israels in Isaiah 65. One is cursed, and one is blessed. One was present. One was future.

Isa 65:15 And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name:

http://www.blueletterbible.org/B...?b=Isa&c=65&v=15&t=KJV#15

[what was that again about there being "absolutely no evidence where God rejects the Jewish people as his chosen people"?]

Compare to John 15:15-16

Jhn 15:15 Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.

[Note: Abraham was also a "friend of God":

Jam 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. ]

continuing with John 15, prophetic mate of Isaiah 65:15:

Jhn 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and [that] your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/B...?b=Jhn&c=15&v=15&t=KJV#15

Isa 65:16 That he who blesseth himself in the earth shall bless himself in the God of truth; and he that sweareth in the earth shall swear by the God of truth; because the former troubles are forgotten, and because they are hid from mine eyes.

[Jesus: I AM the Way, and THE TRUTH, and the Life.....No one comes to the Father but by me....Ye shall not see me again until ye say Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord...."the former troubles are forgotten and hid" from His eyes because when He looks at a Christian, all He sees is their white robe of righteousness washed in the blood of the Lamb...."Their righteousness is of me" http://www.blueletterbible.org/s...cfm?b=Isa&c=54&v=17&t=KJV ...... 2Cr 5:21 For he hath made him [to be] sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. ]

Isa 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

"Heaven and earth" to the Jews was the temple. It was where Heaven and Earth met. God has a new "heaven and earth"; He has a new Temple:

1 Cr 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and [that] the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

2Cr 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in [them]; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/B...m?b=2Cr&c=6&v=16&t=KJV#16 / scroll down to "I will dwell" http://www.blueletterbible.org/s....cfm?b=2Cr&c=6&v=16&t=KJV

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Gal 3:6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.

Gal 3:7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, [i.e., in Jesus Christ] the same are the children of Abraham.

Gal 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, [saying], In thee shall all nations be blessed.

Gal 3:9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

Gal 3:10 *****For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed [is] every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

Gal 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, [it is] evident: for, ****The just shall live by faith.

[**** Remember Martin Luther?]

Gal 3:12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

Gal 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed [is] every one that hangeth on a tree:

Gal 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Gal 3:15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though [it be] but a man's covenant, yet [if it be] confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.

Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to ****** thy seed, ***** which is Christ.......

Gal 3:17 And this I say, [that] the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

[btw, There was a promise made to Abraham that his seed should be servants in a "land not their own and they would afflict them 400 years". Genesis 15:13-14. Note that promise was also made "before the law" and is STILL IN EFFECT.]

Gal 3:18 For if the inheritance [be] of the law, [it is] no more of promise: but God gave [it] to Abraham by promise.......

Gal 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster [to bring us] unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

Gal 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

Gal 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

[There's those "white robes" I was talking about. That's what God sees when He looks at a Christian.]

Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

[the kicker:]

Gal 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/B...m?b=Gal&c=3&v=16&t=KJV#16

Likewise:

Rom 9:7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, [are they] all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.

Rom 9:8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these [are] not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed. [See Galatians 3:16-18, 29 above]

Gal 4:28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

Rom 4:13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, [was] not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the **** righteousness of faith.

Rom 4:14 For if they which are of the law [be] heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect: [See Galatians 3:17-18]

more: http://www.blueletterbible.org/s....cfm?b=Gal&c=3&v=29&t=KJV

John the Baptist to the Jews:

Mat 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

Mat 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:

Mat 3:9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to [our] father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

Mat 3:10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

[Remember John 15-16 above. Jesus said the Christian fruit would remain, but coming upon the Jewish fig tree, said "Let no fruit grow on thee FOREVER." http://www.blueletterbible.org/B...?b=Mat&c=21&v=19&t=KJV#19 ]

Mat 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and [with] fire:

Mat 3:12 Whose fan [is] in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/B...cfm?b=Mat&c=3&v=9&t=KJV#9

Jesus:

Mat 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof......

Mat 21:45 And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/B...?b=Mat&c=21&v=43&t=KJV#43

".....[Phariseeism Is Talmudism Is Judaism

"Phariseeism became Talmudism, Talmudism became Medieval Rabbinism, and Medieval Rabbinism became modern Rabbinism. Both throughout these changes in name ...the spirit of the ancient Pharisees survives, unaltered (Pharisees, the Sociological Background of Their Faith, Louis Finkelstein, p.21)."

"The Jewish religion as it is today traces its descent, without break, through all the centuries, from the Pharisees ...The Talmud is the largest and most important single member of that literature ...and the study of it is essential for any real understanding of Phariseeism (Universal Jewish Encyclopedia under Pharisees)." ] ....." Christ is King of Israel, and Christians are the Israelitic race [Excerpts from Justin Martyr dialogue with Trypho, a Jew] http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=93210 ]

so much for their chosenness

To this day they deny His name, call His mother a whore, and say that He Himself is boiling in hell in semen and excrement, they have enslaved and afflicted His people from the time the cross was planted on these shores in 1607. [Genesis 15:13-14] Are you aware they got Congress and the Presidents[s] to pass and annually commemorate the so-called Noahide Laws, which claim that Christians are idolators and must be decapitated? [ www.sweetliberty.org/pers...e/jewishpersecution14.htm ].

Isa 52:5 Now therefore, what have I here, saith the LORD, that my people is taken away for nought? they that rule over them make them to howl, saith the LORD; and my name continually every day [is] blasphemed.

www.blueletterbible.org/B...fm?b=Isa&c=52&v=5&t=KJV#5

[thanks to TwentyTwelve ]

Jews God's chosen people? I think not.....until they say Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-01-11   10:59:53 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Old Friend (#20)

Here are several versions of the Bible where Christ is speaking to someone.
Whom is is speaking to?

International Standard Version (©2008)
You belong to your father the devil, and you want to carry out the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning and has never stood for truth, since there is no truth in him. Whenever he tells a lie he speaks in character, because he is a liar and the father of lies.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
You come from your father, the devil, and you desire to do what your father wants you to do. The devil was a murderer from the beginning. He has never been truthful. He doesn't know what the truth is. Whenever he tells a lie, he's doing what comes naturally to him. He's a liar and the father of lies.

King James Bible
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

American King James Version
You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and stayed not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

American Standard Version
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father it is your will to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and standeth not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof.

Bible in Basic English
You are the children of your father the Evil One and it is your pleasure to do his desires. From the first he was a taker of life; and he did not go in the true way because there is no true thing in him. When he says what is false, it is natural to him, for he is false and the father of what is false.

Douay-Rheims Bible
You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and he stood not in the truth; because truth is not in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof.

Darby Bible Translation
Ye are of the devil, as your father, and ye desire to do the lusts of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has not stood in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks falsehood, he speaks of what is his own; for he is a liar and its father:

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#24. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#21)

King James Bible Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

He was talking to a select group of jews. Obviously not all the Jews as ALL his apostles were Jews.

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#25. To: Old Friend (#24)

As you know "Jews" do NOT believe that Christ was the son of G_d.

So that means that we all are "Jews"(so to speak) until we come to Christ.

If the story about the Prodigal Son doesn't refer to "Jews" I don't know what does.

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2009-01-11   11:47:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#25)

In revelatoin it teaches that All the Jews will be saved. I guess they are going to turn to christ sometime at the end.

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#34. To: Old Friend (#26)

In revelatoin it teaches that All the Jews will be saved. I guess they are going to turn to christ sometime at the end.

not "Jews"

Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither [is that] circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: www.blueletterbible.org/s....cfm?b=Rom&c=2&v=28&t=KJV

Rom 2:29 But he [is] a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision [is that] of the heart, in the spirit, [and] not in the letter; whose praise [is] not of men, but of God. www.blueletterbible.org/s....cfm?b=Rom&c=2&v=29&t=KJV

Isa 1:9 Except the LORD of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, [and] we should have been like unto Gomorrah.

****** Mic 4:7 And I will make her that halted **** a remnant, and **** her that was cast far off a strong nation: and the LORD shall reign over them in mount Zion from henceforth, even for ever.

www.blueletterbible.org/B...cfm?b=Mic&c=4&v=7&t=KJV#7

BACK TO REVELATION AND YOUR CONTENTION THAT "ALL THE JEWS WILL BE SAVED"....

Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: [and there were] sealed an hundred [and] forty [and] four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Rev&c=7&v=4

so...... Where's Dan? Where's Ephraim?

btw, 144,000 doesn't sound like :

Gen 15:5 And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be.

oops.....

Deu 28:62 And ye shall be left few in number, whereas ye were as the stars of heaven for multitude; because thou wouldest not obey the voice of the LORD thy God........

http://www.blueletterbible.org/B...?b=Deu&c=28&v=62&t=KJV#62

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-01-11   12:34:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#34)

so...... Where's Dan? Where's Ephraim?

prob'ly out masquerading as the Lion of the Tribe of Judah, rejecting the Stone that became the head of the corner.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/B...?b=Mat&c=21&v=42&t=KJV#42 / http://www.blueletterbible.org/s...cfm?b=Mat&c=21&v=42&t=KJV

"...The conspiracy of the tribe of Dan, aka the Synagogue of Satan, to steal the messianic birthright from the tribe of Judah and establish a false messianic kingdom in Israel is given more detailed treatment in our report, Mystery Babylon: Catholic or Jewish?......

The Merovingians [see also THE MEROVINGIAN ANCESTRY OF THE 2008 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES ..... http://http:watch.pair.com/dragon-lineage.html ], who plan to rule the world from their future throne at Jerusalem, claim to come from the tribe of Judah through Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene. However, the weight of evidence indicates that they descended from the tribe of Dan. Although Scripture states that Samson was “of the family of the Danites” [Judges 13:2], Yair Davidy of Brit-Am Israel claims that his lineage includes the Messianic tribe of Judah: “Samson the superman hero came from the Tribe of Dan but his mother was from Judah. Samson, in some respects, was considered a forerunner of the Messiah who will come from Judah but his mother, according to the Midrash will be of the Tribe of Dan.” [Brit-Am Israel newsletter, 2/9/99]

It is through the agency of the ultra-Orthodox Lubavitch Movement that the Gentiles are being prepared to submit to the Noahide Laws under a restored Sanhedrin. Yair Davidy posits, “The name DAN means “judge” in Hebrew. Many lawyers and judges in the USA are of Irish descent of a particular type as is much of the police force ... Descendants of Dan today appear to be concentrated in Ireland, Britain, the USA, and especially Denmark.” Merovingians are also found leading pseudo-Christian organizations as many profiles in the Council for National Policy and Discernment Ministries reveal. These Merovingian agents actively promote the Hebrew Roots / Messianic Movement as the catalyst for Judaizing Christians......."

http://watch.pair.com/dan.html

THE ROYAL HOUSE OF [JUDEO-] BRITAIN

"Judah and Ephraim"

http://www.asis.com/users/stag/royalty.html

Royal [Jewish] US Presidents ....I found that George Washington was of royal blood. ... http://www.asis.com/~stag/uspres.html

A nonsensical fairy tale [they are "delusional": http://www.blueletterbible.org/B...fm?b=Isa&c=66&v=4&t=KJV#4 ....God will have them in derision: http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=2&v=4 ]:

"....TWO KINGDOMS, TWO HOUSES, TWO ROCKS

Birthright
House of Israel: Joseph gets Bethel Rock, Bethel mountain, 10 Tribed kingdom

Sceptre
House of Judah: Judah gets the Spiritual Rock, Jesus. Both Rocks were rejected. Bethel so it could travel to be with The People, Israel, in the British Isles....."

http://www.asis.com/users/stag/stone.html

see:

4um British Israel: The Hidden Hand Behind the 'The Kingdom of God on Earth' Deception.... http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=72694

Scepter of Judah and Thesis Statements [Agenda for World War, Destruction of Christian America; and Jewish Supremacy] http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=75182

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