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Title: One of Turtle's Truckload of Gurls
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Published: Jan 10, 2009
Author: Turtle's Brain
Post Date: 2009-01-10 22:05:50 by Turtle
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Views: 1152
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#12. To: Turtle (#0)

Turtle; I don't know you.I am however questioning your motives for posting the things that you do.I know Christine and her husband.I also know that they are very concerned about what is happening to this country and our involvement with the rest of the planet.She put this site up to serve as a conduit for the exchange of pertinent information.Six postings after the photos of alot dead people in Palestine brought on by Israel using bombs that we supplied them.I have had enough of your self absorbed crap.PLease take a break[maybe permanently].There is alot of people doing alot to try to change things.PRIORITIZE. GET REAL.OR GET REAL GONE.

john stadtmiller  posted on  2009-01-11   15:16:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#13. To: john stadtmiller (#12)

Turtle; I don't know you.I am however questioning your motives

No, you don't know me, and you don't know anything about me. So I'll explain some things.

You, and everyone else, aren't going to change anything. Things will change when they reach a critical mass -- the tipping point.

In the meantime, my "self-absorbed" stuff is merely humor, nothing else.

U>nfortunately, some people don't have a sense of humor.

Turtle  posted on  2009-01-11 15:29:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: john stadtmiller (#12)

john:

I sympathize with what you're saying. What we're dealing with is deadly earnest. It's really more that a man can take seeing these pictures of the dead and wounded coming in day after day.

You can't imagine what is like, unless you've lain in a ditch coughing your life out (as I have) or spent months repeatedly in a hospital trying to get functional again (as I have too).

It's all no goddamned joke.

What Turtle is doing is just a bit of comic relief. It doesn't detract from what we're doing really, because sadly, we're not doing much of anything at all. We're really just commiserating here and using up the last few ounces of free speech left to us before they pull the plug.

No matter what we do, this whole huge juggernaut toward which we're forced to pay club dues is going to do whatever it wants, whenever it wants. Look at the obscenity of the naming of this huge wartub after an living ex-pres. Nothing but media fawning and not a peep about how many schools could have been built or potholes filled or what all of this will cost us in the long run.

We're as good as screwed, john, because the American people don't give a good goddamn no matter what we do or say here.

Cheers.

randge  posted on  2009-01-11 15:43:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: john stadtmiller (#12)

John...

Turtle is our resident Turtle and the only member that brings welcome relief from trials and tribulations of every day life that often tend to overwhelm us.

A bit of foolishness now and then is sorely needed to allow the mind to rest and recuperate.

Beyond that, Turtle is a fraud, a braggart, a fibber and a story teller, but I like him, of course I would never tell him that.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-11 15:49:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: john stadtmiller (#12) (Edited)

Some of us have different priorities, I suppose. I was the class clown and loved the laughter. It has its place. Of course, I was never sure if I was just being laughed at.

wakeup  posted on  2009-01-11 16:29:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: john stadtmiller (#12)

There is alot of people doing alot to try to change things.

John,

This appears to be your first post.

I agree, prioritizing is what we all must do, immediately. In my day to day motions, the fight for the future freedom of my children and grandchildren seems to dominate my actions. Every moment I am reminded how important the cause is. Eating and sleeping often seem to interfere with what I need to do. Don't get me wrong though, I sleep solid and well and eat better than I can afford.

I do not remember the author but, I recall a quote something like this, "we cried ourselves to sleep each night in the camps wishing we would have fought when we were able to." I do not want tears to put me to sleep but a sense of accomplishment toward a worthy goal. And, do we have a worthy goal.

Your web guy, Michael, called me today and we visited about the banner space you offered me the other day. Thank you John, may I call you John, you are most kind. As I start to get rich selling one dollar DVDs, I will cut you in on the action. haha

It would be nice if the project was self sufficient, paying for itself is something it does occasionally. The wife says I spend too much time feeding printers and duplicators. I could be on the road, sleeping in motels, selling shamis at Home Shows but, this fight is more important. Hopefully, she will come to realize that cashflow has its place and what I am doing has value, too. Anyway, I like sleeping in my own bed. When I wake and before I pull the covers off, I check my iPhone to see what new orders have come in and which titles are selling. I am obsessed, I suppose.

My daughter in-law, Stevie drives to Granbury from Fort Worth, with my two grandchildren, once or twice a week, to help run the eleven printers and two duplicators. Thank God she does, I would not be able to manage without her and it is great to see those babies. They are my motivators. Nothing else seems to matter. I also appreciate the idea that she is learning about the problems her family will have to deal with. We always have RBN or a DVD running in the background. She is young but, smart and open to the information. That family interaction is most valuable to me. I always wanted a Walton Mountain set up with everyone eating together on Sundays and family members close.

She and my son Christopher read all the vaccination literature I handed them two years ago and made the right choice for those babies. Thank God. So, maybe they will continue the fight in their own way once the old man is out of the loop.

Forgive the ramblings. I just wanted to say hey and develop a relationship with you. Christine says you are good people and of course it is obvious to any who listen to you. Thanks for all you do on the front lines. Let us hear from you more often on the forum. Some of these guys haven't a clue. Our work is immense and our audience is distracted.

Ron Neil

wakeup  posted on  2009-01-11 16:46:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: john stadtmiller, turtle (#12)

Who the heck are you to come here and bash our Turtle?

You have made one post here, and you used it to start trouble. I think that's pretty pathetic. At least earn your wings first.

Then you can post all the turtle soup recipes your heart desires.

Critter  posted on  2009-01-11 22:24:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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