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Editorial See other Editorial Articles Title: The Authoritarians Imagine No Religion. You think that's difficult? Try this: Imagine No Government. Sunday, January 11, 2009 The Authoritarians Imagine No Religion. You think that's difficult? Try this: Imagine No Government. Such is the extent to which most people have been conditioned, that I am confident that less than 1% of even those most likely to read these words will dare to believe that I'm making a serious proposition. Asking people to imagine how the world could possibly work without "the authorities" making decisions on our behalf and generally "taking care of business" is like asking the planets to stay in orbit around the sun without gravity to hold them in position. Or so we have been trained to believe. Undoing that deeply embedded conditioning is far more than I can hope to achieve in one simple blog. But I can try, at least, to introduce you to three strands of the argument, one of which I wish to cover in some detail. Strand One - Look Around You. Do you see evidence of well managed successfully run society? No, you see a continual series of cockups, conspiracies and catastrophes caused almost exclusively by those "in charge". And, if you've taken any interest in history, you'll be fully aware that this is not a novel situation, but the normal condition of humanity. The degree of incompetence, ignorance and corruption which accompanies the efforts of the elite to remain in control is truly breathtaking. The only novelty in the current era is that we are finally beginning to see it in "real time" rather than having to wait a generation or two to read about it history books. That we have made the obvious collossal technical and social progress which separates us from our Hunter-Gatherer ancestors, is a tribute to the sheer genius of humanity and its ability to overcome even the obstacle of inept Government. Human social progress in particular has rarely - if ever - been a result of intelligent planning and forethought. Most of our progress has been made in spite of government rather than because of it. Indeed even the vast majority of so called "political progress" can usually be shown to be the necessary corrections by an incoming elite of the disastrous mistakes made by their predecessors. They usually survive long enough to create their own disasters and are in turn partially corrected and "improved upon" by their successors. I and thousands of others are continually ranting about this strand of the argument (most of the entries in this blog have been about little else) and I will take up no more of your time with it today. Strand Two - Democracy Democracy is so poorly understood, that hundreds of millions of people actually believe they live in one. A few million think it's an evil force matched only by histories worst Tyrannies. I spend a great deal of my time writing about that too, so, again, I'm not going to repeat myself today. For now, I will remind you of only one main principle. Democracy has NOTHING to do with elections. Democracy is ONLY about We The People making ALL the IMPORTANT decisions. In all other systems - which we call Governments - the clue is in the name. They - the dictatorship or ruling elites "Govern". They dictate the laws, perhaps with the consent of a few hundred lesser governors, but nearly always without requiring the consent of the Governed. (With the sole and notable exception of Switzerland) And as long as We The People continue to delegate our Authority with our craven demands for Leadership, we will continue to avoid even the option of implementing Democracy. True, electing a dictator is marginally better than one who elects himself, but as the examples of Hitler and the soon to expire Bush regime clearly demonstrate, the elected ones are often no better than the alternatives. Who, for example is best placed to weather the current financial storm, the American "Democracy" or the Chinese "Democracy" (and note well how both call themselves Democracies) Strand Three - Authoritarianism This (if you hadn't guessed from the title) is my main focus today. I think we are all born with what Authoritarians would probably describe as a "prejudice against authority". As young children,we have tantrums whenever we cannot get our own way and we spend our early years learning how to circumvent the controls put in place to prevent us doing our own thing. Our later attitude to Authority is dictated by what happens to us in these formative years. If the need for constraint is patiently explained and any punishments proportionately and humanely administered, we may come to see that the Authority wasn't trying to bully us into submission. They were trying to protect us from harming ourselves or those around us and most of the constraints were sensible and necessary. As a result, we reach an age when the constraints are no longer necessary because we understand how the world works and how to conduct ourselves within it without causing harm to others, and generally, unless we really want to, without causing harm to ourselves. We learn to become Autonomous. Conversely, if childhood constraints are applied without patient explanation and with the excessive use of brute force or emotional violence, we create Authoritarians. These are the emotionally and, usually, intellectually stunted individuals who believe what their parents obviously believed, including, most importantly, that Might is Right and that almost any means is justified by their Ends. Authoritarians have been taught from a tender age that it is Wrong to Question Authority. Some of them grow up to become Authorities themselves and take the dimmest possible view of any challenges to their own Authority. Others grow up "knowing their place" and fully trained to submit to the whims of Authority almost regardless of what those whims might be. I've always been subliminally aware of this split, but until recently, I'd almost regarded it as a personal prejudice left over from my childhood. I had one Autonomist parent and one Authoritarian. I think you can guess which one influenced me most! And then I Stumbled across Bob Altemeyer, who turns out to be The Authority on The Authoritarians! I think you should read that (free online) version first. It's well worth it. But there are a couple of reasons you might want to cheat and read this version (pdf 2.5mb) instead. It is my "commented" version. I've highlighted, in two shades, what struck me as the most important passages (the brighter being the more important) and that lets you zip through it in about a fifth of the time. Unless, of course, you stop to read my comments as well, which will take you back up to around half the time. I think it is possibly the most important book you can read right now. Ever since I read it, most of my Stumbling comments have been influenced by it. All those Atheist evangelist sites trying to argue with Creationists; all the anti drug-war sites trying to argue with prohibitionists; all the moderate Muslims trying to argue with the Takfirists; all the opponents of ID Cards trying to argue with government... All completely wasting their time. And once you've read The Authoritarians, you'll finally understand why. I got close to it myself. When I asked (and tried to answer) the question "Are they lying, stupid or blind?" Altemeyer answers that question definitively. The answer is Yes. They are often guilty on all charges. Because their Ends Justify their Means, they will rarely have any compunction about Lying. The Authoritarian followers and many of the Leaders really are often every bit as plain stupid as they look and they are all "blind" to the reasonably trivial reasoning processes most Autonomists picked up by puberty. Unlike my "prejudiced" opinion, however, Altemeyer has carried out 40 years of thoroughly respectable and well documented research to back up his conclusions. And frankly the result is deeply disturbing. In my essay on Militant Islamists, I make the point that, the most extreme elements - the Takfirists - are so distant from all avenues of reasonable negotiation that ...we are in a fight which will only end if either they (the Takfir type who insist on violence as a means of conversion) or we (the rest of the human race - including most Muslims) are permanently erased. Takfirists are typical Authoritarians. Not even particularly extreme. Especially if you measure the kill ratio. The Takfirists have yet to kill even 1% as many as the Authoritarians they're fighting. And if we can't reason with the Takfirists, how can we ever hope to reason with the other bigger, deadlier Authoritarians who control most of the rest of the planet? As of now, I would argue that every major problem humanity currently faces can be rephrased in the form: "What can we do, or what should we do, about the Authoritarians?" They and their attitude ARE the root cause of nearly every major problem we face. Most problematic is their deliberate subversion of "reason" and their pride in remaining impervious to logic. In the case of the Takfirists, I have accepted the need for a War, albeit somewhat more intelligently fought than the one we're in. But there is no way we can consider war against the global Authoritarian movement. 1. they represent 25% of our species so we'd be talking the most massive bloodletting in human history 2. they OWN most of the weaponry! and 3. they're much better at killing and happier to do it, than we are. So what CAN we do? The only major advantage we've got is that we're a lot smarter than they are. The weapons we must deploy must make maximum use of that asset. What those weapons will be I cannot answer definitively, but I am doing my best to describe and develop at least one of them. That - or something like it - will help us "manage" the problem. In the long term, however, I suspect the only solution is to "outlive" them. If we make it to and through the Singularity, these concerns will seem trivial and transient. And, with luck and a following wind, that event may not be too distant. We don't get Authoritarian Transhumanists. Think about that... Posted by Harry Stottle at Sunday, January 11, 2009 Poster Comment: (There are several useful hot links in the original blog. Take the liberty of clicking over to Harry's blog space and enjoying the full version.)
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#1. To: tzf90 (#0)
Interesting article. Even if I dont agree with all of it, he does a good job of explaining the problem. 1. they represent 25% of our species so we'd be talking the most massive bloodletting in human history Yep. And good riddance. I dont hate them anymore than a doctor hates a cancerous tumor. He just does everything he can to kill it. 2. they OWN most of the weaponry! and No, they own some very expensive weapons that are, without fuel and maintenance and someone to use them, are nothing but oversized paperweights. 3. they're much better at killing and happier to do it, than we are. No, they just have a gang mentality. Pick them off one by one and avoid pitched battles. .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Nehemiah 4:14 And I looked and arose and said to the nobles and to the officials and to the rest of the people, “Do not be afraid of them. Remember the Lord, who is great and awesome, and fight for your brothers, your sons, your daughters, your wives, and your homes.”
No, they just have a gang mentality. Pick them off one by one and avoid pitched battles. I think Ruby Ridge and Waco were instructive that going toe to toe against military grade police is almost always fatal. I'm glad you found Harry Stottle's work somewhat interesting. I've read several of his pieces and for a Brit he does have an uncanny understanding of and concern for the U.S..
"I've even suggested that we follow the constitution." Outstanding essay - thanks.
In Waco, the ATF was beat when they ran out of ammo. The Davidians gave them a ceasefire to get their dead and wounded out. Big mistake, in hindsight. But there has to be a outside source of help, like they didnt have at Waco. They were left to rot. We failed. I dont see the possibility of another Waco or Ruby Ridge. Too many are watching for that now. It almost happened in NH with Ed and Elaine Brown. If they had attacked, like I know they wanted to, the shit would have hit the fan. .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Nehemiah 4:14 And I looked and arose and said to the nobles and to the officials and to the rest of the people, “Do not be afraid of them. Remember the Lord, who is great and awesome, and fight for your brothers, your sons, your daughters, your wives, and your homes.”
I'm glad you enjoyed. BTW - Harry is responsive to comment and he's always putting up new material that IMHO is actionable information or at least information that can help keep a downtrodden patriot sane.
"I've even suggested that we follow the constitution." But there has to be a outside source of help, like they didn't have at Waco. They were left to rot. We failed. I don't see the possibility of another Waco or Ruby Ridge. Too many are watching for that now. It almost happened in NH with Ed and Elaine Brown. If they had attacked, like I know they wanted to, the shit would have hit the fan. Did you ever notice that the Fed.s can keep up with your physical address, your #'s and your blood lineage, yet they can't seem to keep up with 10's of illegal aliens running all over our country getting loans, education for their children, free medical care etc. or guys like Madeoff and multi-billion dollar Ponzi schemes? Furthermore, our citizens have been lulled into a deep sleep-like state concerning armed conflict against the Fed.s. We can't even work up a decent non-violent protest. I've been convinced for years that there are 100's or 1000's of government employees busy working on the philological aspects of controlling us. I don't know the name of that department, but if you do please tell me.
"I've even suggested that we follow the constitution." I agree with all you said. We will never have a majority. But IMO that's OK, the majorities never did anything worth a damn anyway. The minorities do the job, the rest just follow. .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Nehemiah 4:14 And I looked and arose and said to the nobles and to the officials and to the rest of the people, “Do not be afraid of them. Remember the Lord, who is great and awesome, and fight for your brothers, your sons, your daughters, your wives, and your homes.”
Are we too comfortable in our loose-fitting shackles? Do we have a tipping-point?
lod... Worse than that... The shackles are velvet lined and most people are unaware of their presence.
The shackles are velvet lined and most people are unaware of their presence. Worse than that, they're invisible or hidden in the cell phones and PCs everyone is addicted to.
Good points, both. We have a cellphone, but I'm not sure where it is. I will cop to the PC addiction however.
Geez, I hope the perps don't interrogate you under pressure ! I "NEVER" even use my PC, NEVER.
I "NEVER" even use my PC, NEVER. Shutting down the internet would be my tipping point.
I think we're all past the tipping point but want to "animate" when the timing seems appropriate.
There are protests. They dont get nationwide airplay though, and sometimes the local media whores don't get it right either. It's all a part of maintaining the illusion. .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Nehemiah 4:14 And I looked and arose and said to the nobles and to the officials and to the rest of the people, “Do not be afraid of them. Remember the Lord, who is great and awesome, and fight for your brothers, your sons, your daughters, your wives, and your homes.”
Good point there. I will remember that.
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