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Title: Why Do People Hate The Jews?
Source: simpletoremember.com
URL Source: http://www.simpletoremember.com/vit ... hy_Do_People_Hate_The_Jews.htm
Published: Jan 12, 2009
Author: simpletoremember
Post Date: 2009-01-12 16:40:24 by Old Friend
Keywords: None
Views: 2327
Comments: 96

It has been said that the history of almost all of the Jewish holidays can be summed up succinctly: "They wanted to kill us; we won. Let's eat." Why has anti-Semitism been so pervasive in so many countries, in so many time periods and for so many reasons? (One begins to wonder. Perhaps there is something wrong with the Jews and Judaism? After all, there is an old Yiddish saying -- "If one person calls you a donkey, ignore him; if two people call you a donkey, buy a saddle.")

Between the years 250 CE and 1948 CE - a period of 1,700 years - Jews have experienced more than eighty expulsions from various countries in Europe - an average of nearly one expulsion every twenty-one years. Jews were expelled from England, France, Austria, Germany, Lithuania, Spain, Portugal, Bohemia, Moravia and seventy-one other countries.

Historians have classified six explanations as to why people hate the Jews:

1. Economic -- "We hate Jews because they possess too much wealth and power." 2. Chosen People -- "We hate Jews because they arrogantly claim that they are the chosen people." 3. Scapegoat -- "Jews are a convenient group to single out and blame for our troubles." 4. Deicide -- "We hate Jews because they killed Jesus." 5. Outsiders, -- "We hate Jews because they are different than us." (The dislike of the unlike.) 6. Racial Theory -- "We hate Jews because they are an inferior race."

As we examine the explanations, we must ask -- Are they the causes for anti-Semitism or excuses for Anti-Semitism? The difference? If one takes away the cause, then anti-Semitism should no longer exist. If one can show a contradiction to the explanation, it demonstrates that the "cause" is not a reason, it is just an excuse. Let's look at some contradictions:

1. Economic -- The Jews of 17th- 20th century Poland and Russia were dirt poor, had no influence and yet they were hated.

2. Chosen People -- a) In the late 19th century, the Jews of Germany denied "Choseness." And then they worked on assimilation. Yet, the holocaust started there. b) Christians and Moslems profess to being the "Chosen people," yet, the world and the anti-Semites tolerate them.

3. Scapegoat -- Any group must already be hated to be an effective scapegoat. The Scapegoat Theory does not then cause anti-Semitism. Rather, anti-Semitism is what makes the Jews a convenient scapegoat target. Hitler's ranting and ravings would not be taken seriously if he said, "It's the bicycle riders and the midgets who are destroying our society."

4. Deicide -- a) the Christian Bible says the Romans killed Jesus, though Jews are mentioned as accomplices (claims that Jews killed Jesus came several hundred years later). How come the accomplices are persecuted and there isn't an anti-Roman movement through history? b) Jesus himself said, "Forgive them [i.e., the Jews], for they know not what they do." The Second Vatican Council in 1963 officially exonerated the Jews as the killers of Jesus. Neither statement of Christian belief lessened anti-Semitism.

5. Outsiders -- With the Enlightenment in the late 18th century, many Jews rushed to assimilate. Anti-Semitism should have stopped. Instead, for example, with the Nazis came the cry, in essence: "We hate you, not because you're different, but because you're trying to become like us! We cannot allow you to infect the Aryan race with your inferior genes."

6. Racial Theory -- The overriding problem with this theory is that it is self-contradictory: Jews are not a race. Anyone can become a Jew - and members of every race, creed and color in the world have done so at one time or another.

Every other hated group is hated for a relatively defined reason. We Jews, however, are hated in paradoxes: Jews are hated for being a lazy and inferior race - but also for dominating the economy and taking over the world. We are hated for stubbornly maintaining our separateness - and, when we do assimilate - for posing a threat to racial purity through intermarriages. We are seen as pacifists and as warmongers; as capitalist exploiters and as revolutionary communists; possessed of a Chosen-People mentality, as well as of an inferiority complex. It seems that we just can't win.

Now we know what are NOT the reasons for anti-Semitism.

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#7. To: Old Friend (#0)

Between the years 250 CE and 1948 CE - a period of 1,700 years - Jews have experienced more than eighty expulsions from various countries in Europe - an average of nearly one expulsion every twenty-one years.

If I was thrown out of 80 bars in the course of time, I'd have to have some real blinders on to think that the problem was with the bars that were throwing me out.

bluegrass  posted on  2009-01-12   16:46:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: bluegrass (#7) (Edited)

If I was thrown out of 80 bars in the course of time,

It is the devil. He doesn't want scripture fulfilled. To bad it will anyway.

Your analogy is piss poor as this happened over a period of thousands of years for different alleged reasons.

Take off your blinders.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-12   16:49:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Old Friend (#8)

It is the devil. He doesn't want scripture fulfilled.

Yes. The devil. How original.

Maybe Jewish groups just don't want people looking too closely at history. Many of those so-called "expulsions" were just countries that became sick of Jewish moneylenders and booted them from polite society. Jews themselves stayed or went depending on whether or not they could make a living. That's called "expulsion" by the philosemites.

The Magna Carta of 1215, considered one of the original Anglo-Saxon documents that put us on the road to Liberty, has two specific references to Jews and debt.

bluegrass  posted on  2009-01-12   16:54:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: bluegrass (#11)

From The Magna Carta of 1215:

"If one who has borrowed from the Jews any sum, great or small, die before that loan be repaid, the debt shall not bear interest while the heir is under age, of whomsoever he may hold; and if the debt fall into our hands, we will not take anything except the principal sum contained in the bond. And if anyone die indebted to the Jews, his wife shall have her dower and pay nothing of that debt; and if any children of the deceased are left under age, necessaries shall be provided for them in keeping with the holding of the deceased; and out of the residue the debt shall be paid, reserving, however, service due to feudal lords; in like manner let it be done touching debts due to others than Jews."

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2009-01-12   17:15:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Lysander_Spooner, Old Friend (#22)

Funny how those clauses ended up in there. It sounds like it had been a problem for some time.

bluegrass  posted on  2009-01-12   17:17:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: bluegrass (#24) (Edited)

Funny how those clauses ended up in there. It sounds like it had been a problem for some time.

Did you support the bailout too?

I will give you this though. I didn't know that and it is interesting. Thanks

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-12   17:17:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Old Friend, Lysander_Spooner (#26)

I will give you this though. I didn't know that and it is interesting. Thanks

You're welcome. Thanks to L_S for posting it.

Take a hint, OF: You don't appear to be well-informed about what you speak of when it comes to history. Many on this board know their history which is why you think they're just a bunch of "haters".

"Hate speech" and "politically correct" speech were invented and pushed by people that wish to keep the truth from being spoken of in the media, academia and elsewhere.

bluegrass  posted on  2009-01-12   17:23:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: bluegrass (#30)

Take a hint, OF: You don't appear to be well-informed about what you speak of when it comes to history. Many on this board know their history which is why you think they're just a bunch of "haters".

"Hate speech" and "politically correct" speech were invented and pushed by people that wish to keep the truth from being spoken of in the media, academia and elsewhere.

No one knows all history. I know more then most of my fellow citizens.

As for hate speech and politically corrrectness. Hate speech laws are repugnant to our constitution and I don't support any of that nonsense. And I am definately not PC. Im the UNPC.

Another point. You can't use history to judge individuals as a group. It isn't right.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-12   17:26:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Old Friend (#32)

You can't use history to judge individuals as a group.

If they work together as a group, you certainly can. It's like officers of a corporation being held to account for their crimes if they colluded.

Alan Dershowtiz and Abe Foxman are the same person to me. They can be blamed for the crimes of Zion as much as any politician in Israel could be.

bluegrass  posted on  2009-01-12   17:29:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: bluegrass (#36)

If they work together as a group, you certainly can. It's like officers of a corporation being held to account for their crimes if they colluded.

Alan Dershowtiz and Abe Foxman are the same person to me. They can be blamed for the crimes of Zion as much as any politician in Israel could be.

We will just have to disagree on that one. The Jews of today have no connection to the Jews of the Magna Carta age. As far as working together.

Dershowtiz and Foxman are assholes of the highest calibar. But not because they are Jewish but because of things they have done.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-12   17:32:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Old Friend (#39)

Dershowitz and Foxman are assholes because of their Jewish supremacism. Or else they're Jewish supremacists because they're assholes.

Either way, they each hold influential positions that would be closed to them were they Muslims or Christians and espousing the same BS.

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