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Title: Why Do People Hate The Jews?
Source: simpletoremember.com
URL Source: http://www.simpletoremember.com/vit ... hy_Do_People_Hate_The_Jews.htm
Published: Jan 12, 2009
Author: simpletoremember
Post Date: 2009-01-12 16:40:24 by Old Friend
Keywords: None
Views: 1162
Comments: 96

It has been said that the history of almost all of the Jewish holidays can be summed up succinctly: "They wanted to kill us; we won. Let's eat." Why has anti-Semitism been so pervasive in so many countries, in so many time periods and for so many reasons? (One begins to wonder. Perhaps there is something wrong with the Jews and Judaism? After all, there is an old Yiddish saying -- "If one person calls you a donkey, ignore him; if two people call you a donkey, buy a saddle.")

Between the years 250 CE and 1948 CE - a period of 1,700 years - Jews have experienced more than eighty expulsions from various countries in Europe - an average of nearly one expulsion every twenty-one years. Jews were expelled from England, France, Austria, Germany, Lithuania, Spain, Portugal, Bohemia, Moravia and seventy-one other countries.

Historians have classified six explanations as to why people hate the Jews:

1. Economic -- "We hate Jews because they possess too much wealth and power." 2. Chosen People -- "We hate Jews because they arrogantly claim that they are the chosen people." 3. Scapegoat -- "Jews are a convenient group to single out and blame for our troubles." 4. Deicide -- "We hate Jews because they killed Jesus." 5. Outsiders, -- "We hate Jews because they are different than us." (The dislike of the unlike.) 6. Racial Theory -- "We hate Jews because they are an inferior race."

As we examine the explanations, we must ask -- Are they the causes for anti-Semitism or excuses for Anti-Semitism? The difference? If one takes away the cause, then anti-Semitism should no longer exist. If one can show a contradiction to the explanation, it demonstrates that the "cause" is not a reason, it is just an excuse. Let's look at some contradictions:

1. Economic -- The Jews of 17th- 20th century Poland and Russia were dirt poor, had no influence and yet they were hated.

2. Chosen People -- a) In the late 19th century, the Jews of Germany denied "Choseness." And then they worked on assimilation. Yet, the holocaust started there. b) Christians and Moslems profess to being the "Chosen people," yet, the world and the anti-Semites tolerate them.

3. Scapegoat -- Any group must already be hated to be an effective scapegoat. The Scapegoat Theory does not then cause anti-Semitism. Rather, anti-Semitism is what makes the Jews a convenient scapegoat target. Hitler's ranting and ravings would not be taken seriously if he said, "It's the bicycle riders and the midgets who are destroying our society."

4. Deicide -- a) the Christian Bible says the Romans killed Jesus, though Jews are mentioned as accomplices (claims that Jews killed Jesus came several hundred years later). How come the accomplices are persecuted and there isn't an anti-Roman movement through history? b) Jesus himself said, "Forgive them [i.e., the Jews], for they know not what they do." The Second Vatican Council in 1963 officially exonerated the Jews as the killers of Jesus. Neither statement of Christian belief lessened anti-Semitism.

5. Outsiders -- With the Enlightenment in the late 18th century, many Jews rushed to assimilate. Anti-Semitism should have stopped. Instead, for example, with the Nazis came the cry, in essence: "We hate you, not because you're different, but because you're trying to become like us! We cannot allow you to infect the Aryan race with your inferior genes."

6. Racial Theory -- The overriding problem with this theory is that it is self-contradictory: Jews are not a race. Anyone can become a Jew - and members of every race, creed and color in the world have done so at one time or another.

Every other hated group is hated for a relatively defined reason. We Jews, however, are hated in paradoxes: Jews are hated for being a lazy and inferior race - but also for dominating the economy and taking over the world. We are hated for stubbornly maintaining our separateness - and, when we do assimilate - for posing a threat to racial purity through intermarriages. We are seen as pacifists and as warmongers; as capitalist exploiters and as revolutionary communists; possessed of a Chosen-People mentality, as well as of an inferiority complex. It seems that we just can't win.

Now we know what are NOT the reasons for anti-Semitism.

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#7. To: Old Friend (#0)

Between the years 250 CE and 1948 CE - a period of 1,700 years - Jews have experienced more than eighty expulsions from various countries in Europe - an average of nearly one expulsion every twenty-one years.

If I was thrown out of 80 bars in the course of time, I'd have to have some real blinders on to think that the problem was with the bars that were throwing me out.

bluegrass  posted on  2009-01-12   16:46:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: bluegrass (#7) (Edited)

If I was thrown out of 80 bars in the course of time,

It is the devil. He doesn't want scripture fulfilled. To bad it will anyway.

Your analogy is piss poor as this happened over a period of thousands of years for different alleged reasons.

Take off your blinders.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-12   16:49:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Old Friend (#8)

It is the devil. He doesn't want scripture fulfilled.

Yes. The devil. How original.

Maybe Jewish groups just don't want people looking too closely at history. Many of those so-called "expulsions" were just countries that became sick of Jewish moneylenders and booted them from polite society. Jews themselves stayed or went depending on whether or not they could make a living. That's called "expulsion" by the philosemites.

The Magna Carta of 1215, considered one of the original Anglo-Saxon documents that put us on the road to Liberty, has two specific references to Jews and debt.

bluegrass  posted on  2009-01-12   16:54:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: bluegrass (#11)

From The Magna Carta of 1215:

"If one who has borrowed from the Jews any sum, great or small, die before that loan be repaid, the debt shall not bear interest while the heir is under age, of whomsoever he may hold; and if the debt fall into our hands, we will not take anything except the principal sum contained in the bond. And if anyone die indebted to the Jews, his wife shall have her dower and pay nothing of that debt; and if any children of the deceased are left under age, necessaries shall be provided for them in keeping with the holding of the deceased; and out of the residue the debt shall be paid, reserving, however, service due to feudal lords; in like manner let it be done touching debts due to others than Jews."

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2009-01-12   17:15:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Lysander_Spooner, Old Friend (#22)

Funny how those clauses ended up in there. It sounds like it had been a problem for some time.

bluegrass  posted on  2009-01-12   17:17:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: bluegrass (#24)

Apparently, the term "Jew" in Middle English, was a reference to bankers, according to the source.

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2009-01-12   17:27:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Lysander_Spooner (#33)

Apparently, the term "Jew" in Middle English, was a reference to bankers, according to the source.

That's because Jews were the only ones that loaned money out. It was a dirty business to any Christian of 1215.

bluegrass  posted on  2009-01-12   17:31:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: bluegrass (#38)

That's because Jews were the only ones that loaned money out.

You don't know that. You can't know that. There are no records of all the loans made almost a thousand years ago.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-12   17:33:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Old Friend (#40)

You don't know that. You can't know that.

It's called "history". To a Christian in 1215, loaning money out as an occupation was considered on the same level as being a whore. The Church forbade its followers from lending money at interest. Thus, it was generally only Jews that did the moneylending as it's Jewish law that a Jew MUST lend money at interest to a non-Jew.

bluegrass  posted on  2009-01-12   17:39:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: bluegrass (#44)

. Thus, it was generally only Jews that did the moneylending as it's Jewish law that a Jew MUST lend money at interest to a non-Jew.

I think you are almost correct. I could be wrong but I don't think the word MUST was used. But they were surely forbidden to charge interest to fellow Jews and they were able to lend with interest to non jews. Not sure about the "must" part.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-12   17:43:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Old Friend (#47)

I could be wrong but I don't think the word MUST was used.

The 613 mitzvot from jewfaq.org (run by an Orthodox Jew)

http://www.jewfaq.org/613.htm

Treatment of Gentiles

53. To love the stranger (Deut. 10:19) (CCA61). See Love and Brotherhood.
54. Not to wrong the stranger in speech (Ex. 22:20) (CCN49).
55. Not to wrong the stranger in buying or selling (Ex. 22:20) (CCN50).
56. Not to intermarry with gentiles (Deut. 7:3) (CCN19). See Interfaith Marriages.
57. To exact the debt of an alien (Deut. 15:3) (affirmative).
58. To lend to an alien at interest (Deut. 23:21) According to tradition, this is mandatory (affirmative).

bluegrass  posted on  2009-01-12   17:49:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: bluegrass (#48)

Your source is incorrect. Here are the words from the Bible

Thou shalt not lend upon usury to thy brother; usury of money, usury of victuals, usury of any thing that is lent upon usury: 20

Unto a stranger thou MAYEST lend upon usury; but unto thy brother thou shalt not lend upon usury: that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all that thou settest thine hand to in the land whither thou goest to possess it.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-12   17:55:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Old Friend (#52)

You're going to argue with the most famous rabbi in history about lending to non-Jews? ; )

"When an Israelite lends money to a Gentile or to an "indwelling stranger" (a half-convert of foreign blood), he may and should charge him interest; and when he borrows from such a person he should allow him interest. It is the opinion of Maimonides that for Jews to charge Gentiles interest is a positive command of the written law."

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=58&letter=U

bluegrass  posted on  2009-01-12   18:03:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: bluegrass (#55)

You're going to argue with the most famous rabbi in history about lending to non-Jews? ; )

I go by the Bible not writings of some Jew.

What I quoted clearly says that they may or may not.

If they use another source that is their problem not mine.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-12   18:05:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Old Friend (#56)

I go by the Bible not writings of some Jew.

Do you know who Maimonides was?

bluegrass  posted on  2009-01-12   18:08:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: bluegrass (#58)

Do you know who Maimonides was?

enlighten me.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-12   18:11:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Old Friend (#60)

Many Jews regard him as the 'second Moses':

Maimonides

bluegrass  posted on  2009-01-12   18:16:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#66. To: bluegrass (#63)

Many Jews regard him as the 'second Moses':

That is why I think his body was hidden upon his death. So that the Jews wouldn't worship his dead body.

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