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Title: Why Do People Hate The Jews?
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Published: Jan 12, 2009
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It has been said that the history of almost all of the Jewish holidays can be summed up succinctly: "They wanted to kill us; we won. Let's eat." Why has anti-Semitism been so pervasive in so many countries, in so many time periods and for so many reasons? (One begins to wonder. Perhaps there is something wrong with the Jews and Judaism? After all, there is an old Yiddish saying -- "If one person calls you a donkey, ignore him; if two people call you a donkey, buy a saddle.") Between the years 250 CE and 1948 CE - a period of 1,700 years - Jews have experienced more than eighty expulsions from various countries in Europe - an average of nearly one expulsion every twenty-one years. Jews were expelled from England, France, Austria, Germany, Lithuania, Spain, Portugal, Bohemia, Moravia and seventy-one other countries. Historians have classified six explanations as to why people hate the Jews: 1. Economic -- "We hate Jews because they possess too much wealth and power." 2. Chosen People -- "We hate Jews because they arrogantly claim that they are the chosen people." 3. Scapegoat -- "Jews are a convenient group to single out and blame for our troubles." 4. Deicide -- "We hate Jews because they killed Jesus." 5. Outsiders, -- "We hate Jews because they are different than us." (The dislike of the unlike.) 6. Racial Theory -- "We hate Jews because they are an inferior race." As we examine the explanations, we must ask -- Are they the causes for anti-Semitism or excuses for Anti-Semitism? The difference? If one takes away the cause, then anti-Semitism should no longer exist. If one can show a contradiction to the explanation, it demonstrates that the "cause" is not a reason, it is just an excuse. Let's look at some contradictions: 1. Economic -- The Jews of 17th- 20th century Poland and Russia were dirt poor, had no influence and yet they were hated. 2. Chosen People -- a) In the late 19th century, the Jews of Germany denied "Choseness." And then they worked on assimilation. Yet, the holocaust started there. b) Christians and Moslems profess to being the "Chosen people," yet, the world and the anti-Semites tolerate them. 3. Scapegoat -- Any group must already be hated to be an effective scapegoat. The Scapegoat Theory does not then cause anti-Semitism. Rather, anti-Semitism is what makes the Jews a convenient scapegoat target. Hitler's ranting and ravings would not be taken seriously if he said, "It's the bicycle riders and the midgets who are destroying our society." 4. Deicide -- a) the Christian Bible says the Romans killed Jesus, though Jews are mentioned as accomplices (claims that Jews killed Jesus came several hundred years later). How come the accomplices are persecuted and there isn't an anti-Roman movement through history? b) Jesus himself said, "Forgive them [i.e., the Jews], for they know not what they do." The Second Vatican Council in 1963 officially exonerated the Jews as the killers of Jesus. Neither statement of Christian belief lessened anti-Semitism. 5. Outsiders -- With the Enlightenment in the late 18th century, many Jews rushed to assimilate. Anti-Semitism should have stopped. Instead, for example, with the Nazis came the cry, in essence: "We hate you, not because you're different, but because you're trying to become like us! We cannot allow you to infect the Aryan race with your inferior genes." 6. Racial Theory -- The overriding problem with this theory is that it is self-contradictory: Jews are not a race. Anyone can become a Jew - and members of every race, creed and color in the world have done so at one time or another. Every other hated group is hated for a relatively defined reason. We Jews, however, are hated in paradoxes: Jews are hated for being a lazy and inferior race - but also for dominating the economy and taking over the world. We are hated for stubbornly maintaining our separateness - and, when we do assimilate - for posing a threat to racial purity through intermarriages. We are seen as pacifists and as warmongers; as capitalist exploiters and as revolutionary communists; possessed of a Chosen-People mentality, as well as of an inferiority complex. It seems that we just can't win. Now we know what are NOT the reasons for anti-Semitism.
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#57. To: Lysander_Spooner (#22)
welcome, Lysander. ;)
Do you know who Maimonides was?
I have no problem with researching to see if things are true. The overall issue/problem is that Zionists have virtually destroyed Judaism because of their hateful acts, discrimination and human rights violations. Until people understand that Zionism and Judaism are two separate things, those of the Jewish faith will continue to pay the price for what the Zionists do. A good example here in the U.S. besides the ADL is the terrorist organization JDL. Perhaps one of the most ignorant comments people, particularly Christians, make is that the Jews killed Jesus. Physically that is true, but this was the work of the Lord. When people play the "well the Jews killed Jesus" card I ask them a couple of very simple questions. "Would you prefer the Lord not send His Son (part of Himself) to clarify much of the law that had been abused and twisted by the Pharisees and Saddcees? Mark 10:2 ... For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept... And think if He had not come, endured the horrible punishment and sacrifice. Would you prefer to spend an eternity other than in Heaven just so you can say "Jews killed Jesus". I don't think that would be a very intelligent wish.
enlighten me.
enlighten me Type "Rambam" into Google. Find out the obscenities he wrote about Jesus.
In politics there is no murder.
That's because Jews were the only ones that loaned money out. It was a dirty business to any Christian of 1215. All lending at interest, per Roman Church Doctrine, was regarded as usury and forbidden by scripture. Thus the Roman Church, THE Church at the time, spoke and people listened, and obeyed. Thus no Christian could loan money at interest. The Jews who were often metal workers and Goldsmiths (Thus all the Jewish names with "Gold" in them") and were regarded as trusted repositories for gold. The Goldsmith would issue a receipt for the gold which then often became an item of trade and remain in circulation from hand to hand for a long time - thus creating the first modern Paper Money. The Goldsmiths in turn quickly learned that once deposited the gold would remain on deposit for long periods of time. Next they figured out that they could issue receipts in excess of the actual gold without danger of it all being claimed at once. So, they began issuing receipts in excess of the gold on hand, again learning from experience, knowing that they were unlikely to have to pay it out all at once. So, they would "loan" out receipts, for gold which they did not actually have, at interest and thus fractional reserve banking and fiat currency were born.
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
Many Jews regard him as the 'second Moses':
Stoooopid goy....
You said that usury was forbidden by scripture. That may very well have been Roman doctrine. But is it biblical? As in is there a verse that forbids it?
That is why I think his body was hidden upon his death. So that the Jews wouldn't worship his dead body.
I did not vote for President. At one point I commented that because of the constant propaganda spewed forth by the McCain camp as well as the neocon base I was considering voting for him out of spite. But I just couldn't get to the point where I could cut off my nose to spite my face. And here in AZ you could not write in Ron Paul so I just voted for those running for the other offices. Personally I believe America is on its last legs. The neocons began effective use of the Hegelian Dialectic tool in the late 60s and early 70s and unfortunately, over the past 25 or so years they have been able to persuade most of the non-neocons into joining them in their goal to create a division among Americans. I personally believe that Obama was "selected" to become the next president because it introduced another thesis/anti-thesis position that will be used to divide Americans. Divide and conquer has always been the weapon of leaders, politicians and dictators. I have no doubt that more than 95% of our politicians in this country are machevellian communitarians who would sell their mother for more power or wealth.
It's scripturally forbidden for a brother to lend to a brother at interest. No ifs, ands or buts. Christians used to see each other as brethren.
The point is that Maimonides stated it as a command for Jews to lend to non-Jews at interest.
Do you know who Maimonides was? I do! I do! Yes he was a famous Rabbi and Writer of the late Medieval Period - who in his later years converted to Islam. A fact not often mentioned, or known, by Jews who rely on his writings.
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
Trade offs, trade offs.
This happens quite often.
LOL! Great name, btw.
Don't tell OF.
19 " You shall not charge interest to your brother -- interest on money or food or anything that is lent out at interest. If he has exacted usury Or taken increase -- Shall he then live? He shall not live! If he has done any of these abominations, He shall surely die; His blood shall be upon him. (Ezekiel 18:13) He who does not put out his money at usury, Nor does he take a bribe against the innocent. He who does these things shall never be moved. (Psalm 15:5) I do not normally play "dueling scriptures", but because it is a point of historical interest ...
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
Big, actually, a HUGE, AMEN, on this observation.
Those scriptures are kind of damning to the Fed.
"...Unfortunately, however, so enthusiastic is Kraemer on demonstrating the influence of Islam on Maimonides’ life that he often slips into exaggerations and distortions. The most blatant example is the chapter that will almost certainly be the object of wide criticsm by both rabbis and historians, provacatively entitled "Did Maimonides convert to Islam—?" a question that Kraemer unambiguously answers in the affirmative. There is a problem with the way Kraemer arrives at his sensational conclusion. His main source for this calumny is the vindictive accusation of a Muslim visitor to Cairo from Fez, who seemed to have remembered Maimonides as a Muslim when he lived in Morocco. Surprised more than 30 years later to discover that Maimonides had become Egypt’s most distinguished rabbi, he denounced him to the authorities as an apostate. But this account, along with a handful of similar testimonies cited by Kraemer to bolster his claim, proves nothing more than that Maimonides practiced the time-honored medieval Islamic tradition of Taqiyya, or prudent dissimulation, by dressing and behaving like a Muslim publicly, perhaps occasionally presenting himself at a mosque, while remaining an observant Jew during the darkest period of Almohad persecution, which forced Jews to dress in hideous costumes and resulted in thousands of forced apostasies and deaths. There is simply no credible evidence that Maimonides converted, let alone that he was a “practicing Muslim.”...." I find the assertion that "Rambam converted to Islam" highly implausible.
Lots of things are damning to the FED - buncha crooks.
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
He converted alright. He just didn't mean it. : )
This is not a complex problem. Jews are an insular group which culturally has, usually by choice, remained separate and aloof from the culture within which they live. As well like some other insular groups, Gypsies come to mind, those not a member of their group are considered lawful prey. So, by dealing false with those around them their own actions separate them from people whom they live with. You cannot prey on someone and then not come up with justifications for that, which you know deep down, which is wrong and done wrongly. So, insanely, the justification becomes "they deserved it", "they're inferior", "its not like they are really people like my group". This in turn increases the separation and insularity and starts the whole cycle over again getting worse and worse with each downward dwindling spiral. As well gaining wealth inspires envy (look at what the King of France and the Pope did to the Knights Templar) and thus makes one a target of others who are small minded and spirited. So, it is a mutual thing each detesting the other for what each has done to the other. Mind you I am not saying this is logical - it is just how people behave. Eventually the accumulated weight of mutual wrongs results in an explosion, an expulsion, or a pogrom.
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
Now THAT'S more like it!
Thanks for the data. I had wondered about the conversion. Of course it could have been convert or lose his favored position as well and being pragmatic converted for temporal reasons.
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
Right. The religious/political climate of control was likely beyond our understanding (based on limited info today) and we may never fully understand a "pragmatic decision" for the time period at issue.
Bad analogy. The bailout was bankers looting the country. Remember that the bankers were mostly all Jews.
Because they play us for fools, arguing back and forth about which kike did what?
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
I apologise for using the 'k' word, I really should have said yids. Funny, history...actual history anyway. The hired-out bullshit tends to be a bit weepy.
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
Of course not. Just like in our elections today, there are mullets who will jump up and shout approval of whatever the bHO has to say, even if they can't spell 'cat', even if you spot them the 'a and t.' Our country is in deep, deep, shiite. imho.
Maimonides - the proto-crypto.
Even the most blind of hogs, find an acorn now and again...I can take no credit for this, but must give it all up to my grandfather, who was a true Bible scholar, and student. He did study himself to show himself approved, and I love him for all that he helped me learn. Blessings, lodwick.
Yeah but I trust God to do something about it if not in this world then the next.
I would like to see them all as "Gallows Fruit".
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
Thank you Christine.
"One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." ~ Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994
Why do the Jews hate the Gentiles? Quotes from the Talmud, Judaism's most holiest book: Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work. Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep. Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel." Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile. Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals. Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth. Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows. Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men. A passage from Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus died: "Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?--He replied: It is not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-three or thirty-four years old." Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement." Sanhedrin 43a. Says Jesus ("Yeshu" and in Soncino footnote #6, Yeshu "the Nazarene") was executed because he practiced sorcery: "It is taught that on the eve of Passover Jesus was hung, and forty days before this the proclamation was made: Jesus is to be stoned to death because he has practiced sorcery and has lured the people to idolatry...He was an enticer and of such thou shalt not pity or condone." Rosh Hashanah 17a. Christians (minnim) and others who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations. Rosh Hashanah 17a. Christians (minnim) and others who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations. Sanhedrin 90a. Those who read the New Testament ("uncanonical books") will have no portion in the world to come. Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e. the New Testament. Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years "and a day" old). Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old. Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing." Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest. ... There are many more quotes just like those. They are all sick. Those that go by the Talmud, present day "Jews", are indeed sick demented vipers, or as Jesus called them, "children of the devil."
God is always good!
Hitler was a Jew. He fooled a lot of people.
God is always good!
#58. To: Old Friend (#56)
I go by the Bible not writings of some Jew.
#59. To: Old Friend (#53)
#60. To: bluegrass (#58)
Do you know who Maimonides was?
#61. To: Old Friend (#60)
Do you know who Maimonides was?
#62. To: bluegrass, Lysander_Spooner, all (#38)
Apparently, the term "Jew" in Middle English, was a reference to bankers, according to the source.
#63. To: Old Friend (#60)
#64. To: Old Friend (#1)
#65. To: Original_Intent (#62)
All lending at interest, per Roman Church Doctrine, was regarded as usury and forbidden by scripture. Thus the Roman Church, THE Church at the time, spoke and people listened, and obeyed.
#66. To: bluegrass (#63)
Many Jews regard him as the 'second Moses':
#67. To: Old Friend (#54)
#68. To: Old Friend, Original_Intent (#65)
You said that usury was forbidden by scripture.
#69. To: Old Friend (#66)
#70. To: bluegrass (#58)
I go by the Bible not writings of some Jew.
#71. To: bluegrass (#11)
The Magna Carta of 1215, considered one of the original Anglo-Saxon documents that put us on the road to Liberty, has two specific references to Jews and debt.
#72. To: Original_Intent, bluegrass (#70)
..A fact not often mentioned, or known, by Jews
#73. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#71)
#74. To: Original_Intent, Old Friend (#70)
in his later years converted to Islam.
#75. To: Old Friend, bluegrass (#65)
25 " If you lend money to any of My people who are poor among you, you shall not be like a moneylender to him; you shall not charge him interest.
26 "If you ever take your neighbor's garment as a pledge, you shall return it to him before the sun goes down.
27 "For that is his only covering, it is his garment for his skin. What will he sleep in? And it will be that when he cries to Me, I will hear, for I am gracious. (Exodus 22:25-27)
20 "To a foreigner you may charge interest, but to your brother you shall not charge interest, that the LORD your God may bless you in all to which you set your hand in the land which you are entering to possess. (Deuteronomy 23:19,20)
#76. To: bluegrass, all (#30)
"Hate speech" and "politically correct" speech were invented and pushed by people that wish to keep the truth from being spoken of in the media, academia and elsewhere.
#77. To: Original_Intent (#75)
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who
#78. To: Original_Intent, bluegrass. christine, Old Friend (#70)
Yes he was a famous Rabbi and Writer of the late Medieval Period - who in his later years converted to Islam. A fact not often mentioned, or known, by Jews who rely on his writings.
#79. To: farmfriend (#77)
Those scriptures are kind of damning to the Fed.
#80. To: HOUNDDAWG (#78)
#81. To: Old Friend (#0)
Now we know what are NOT the reasons for anti-Semitism.
#82. To: bluegrass (#80)
He converted alright. He just didn't mean it. : )
#83. To: HOUNDDAWG (#78)
#84. To: Original_Intent (#83)
Thanks for the data. I had wondered about the conversion. Of course it could have been convert or lose his favored position as well and being pragmatic converted for temporal reasons.
#85. To: bluegrass, OF, all (#37)
Like the bailout.
#86. To: Old Friend (#0)
Why Do People Hate The Jews?
#87. To: All (#86)
#88. To: Old Friend (#49)
I will agree that there are some "pharisees" in the Jewish camp. Does that mean they are all pharisees and murderers? I don't think so.
#89. To: HOUNDDAWG (#82)
#90. To: Old Friend (#49)
I am still reflecting on your words and you may have a bit of a point.
#91. To: Original_Intent (#79)
Lots of things are damning to the FED - buncha crooks.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who
#92. To: farmfriend (#91)
#93. To: christine (#57)
#94. To: Old Friend (#0)
#95. To: Old Friend (#0)
Why Do People Hate The Jews?
#96. To: Old Friend (#3)
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