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Title: H. R. 45 To provide for the implementation of a system of licensing for purchasers of certain firearms and for a record of sale system for those firearms, and for other purposes.
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URL Source: http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi ... ng_bills&docid=f:h45ih.txt.pdf
Published: Jan 13, 2009
Author: Some JBT patriot red lister
Post Date: 2009-01-13 16:46:37 by PSUSA
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#1. To: PSUSA (#0)

Yeah, I'd like to implement a system alright..

Lady X  posted on  2009-01-13   16:49:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Lady X, All, *SHTF - Survival* (#1)

It does let one know which direction we are heading in. Seems they are trying to get an early start.

They have their plans. We have ours. Let's see who comes out on top.

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Nehemiah 4:14 And I looked and arose and said to the nobles and to the officials and to the rest of the people, “Do not be afraid of them. Remember the Lord, who is great and awesome, and fight for your brothers, your sons, your daughters, your wives, and your homes.”

PSUSA  posted on  2009-01-13   16:57:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: PSUSA (#0)

Pigs will ****ing fly first...

Bring on the Depression. Bring it the F*** ON! If digging ditches and eating beans for a few years is what it takes for me to see some worthless sacks of crap bankers and politicians living in sack cloth and being spat upon by my fellow Americans well... where's my shovel?!?!

Axenolith  posted on  2009-01-13   18:06:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: PSUSA (#0)

SUMMARY AS OF:
1/6/2009--Introduced.

Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 - Amends the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act to prohibit a person from possessing a firearm unless that person has been issued a firearm license under this Act or a state system certified under this Act and such license has not been invalidated or revoked. Prescribes license application, issuance, and renewal requirements.

Prohibits transferring or receiving a qualifying firearm unless the recipient presents a valid firearms license, the license is verified, and the dealer records a tracking authorization number. Prescribes firearms transfer reporting and record keeping requirements. Directs the Attorney General to establish and maintain a federal record of sale system.

Prohibits: (1) transferring a firearm to any person other than a licensee, unless the transfer is processed through a licensed dealer in accordance with national instant criminal background check system requirements, with exceptions; (2) a licensed manufacturer or dealer from failing to comply with reporting and record keeping requirements of this Act; (3) failing to report the loss or theft of the firearm to the Attorney General within 72 hours; (4) failing to report to the Attorney General an address change within 60 days; or (5) keeping a loaded firearm, or an unloaded firearm and ammunition for the firearm, knowingly or recklessly disregarding the risk that a child is capable of gaining access, if a child uses the firearm and causes death or serious bodily injury.

Prescribes criminal penalties for violations of firearms provisions covered by this Act.

Directs the Attorney General to: (1) establish and maintain a firearm injury information clearinghouse; (2) conduct continuing studies and investigations of firearm-related deaths and injuries; and (3) collect and maintain current production and sales figures of each licensed manufacturer.

Authorizes the Attorney General to certify state firearm licensing or record of sale systems.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2009-01-13   18:10:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: PSUSA, Lady X, Axenolith, lodwick, Original_Intent, rotara, noone222 (#0)

I just noticed something. You have to look at the legislation to see it. If you haven't saved a link to Thomas do so.

H.R.45
Title: To provide for the implementation of a system of licensing for purchasers of certain firearms and for a record of sale system for those firearms, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Rush, Bobby L. [IL-1] (introduced 1/6/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Latest Major Action: 1/6/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary.

I'd really like to know what those "other purposes" are, wouldn't you?


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2009-01-13   18:28:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: farmfriend, PSUSA, Lady X, Axenolith, lodwick, Original_Intent, rotara, noone222 (#5)

"Other purposes" are for when the Satan's cornhole club member that sponsored this realizes it won't fly so he/they fold it into the legislation to "Prevent Under-The-Bed-Monsters from runneling their clawed fingers through the intestines of little children" or riders this as an amendment on a bill to prevent the impending impact of a 2.8 mile diameter asteroid.

That way, even the "unreasonable firearms enthusiasts" [read "us"] will pile on! It's fer the children and humanity dontcha know?!?!

Bring on the Depression. Bring it the F*** ON! If digging ditches and eating beans for a few years is what it takes for me to see some worthless sacks of crap bankers and politicians living in sack cloth and being spat upon by my fellow Americans well... where's my shovel?!?!

Axenolith  posted on  2009-01-13   19:02:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: farmfriend (#5)

I'd really like to know what those "other purposes" are, wouldn't you?

That's common.

That way they can try and hide some things in there before the bill is voted on. At least that is what seems to happen.

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Nehemiah 4:14 And I looked and arose and said to the nobles and to the officials and to the rest of the people, “Do not be afraid of them. Remember the Lord, who is great and awesome, and fight for your brothers, your sons, your daughters, your wives, and your homes.”

PSUSA  posted on  2009-01-13   19:05:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Axenolith (#6)

no doubt. you should see the stuff going through our wonderful legislature. they have 2 bills that will charge you $.25 per grocery bag.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2009-01-13   19:05:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: PSUSA, Axenolith (#7)

Well I've added the bill to my web site so I can track it.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2009-01-13   19:07:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: farmfriend (#9)

What's your site?

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Nehemiah 4:14 And I looked and arose and said to the nobles and to the officials and to the rest of the people, “Do not be afraid of them. Remember the Lord, who is great and awesome, and fight for your brothers, your sons, your daughters, your wives, and your homes.”

PSUSA  posted on  2009-01-13   19:09:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: PSUSA (#0)

Message to congress:

Pass that bill at your peril.

I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.
Used Tires Albany, NY

Critter  posted on  2009-01-13   19:09:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Critter (#11)

They dont get it. THey are betting that we are bluffing. We're not bluffing. They will find out after it's too late.

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Nehemiah 4:14 And I looked and arose and said to the nobles and to the officials and to the rest of the people, “Do not be afraid of them. Remember the Lord, who is great and awesome, and fight for your brothers, your sons, your daughters, your wives, and your homes.”

PSUSA  posted on  2009-01-13   19:11:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: PSUSA (#0)

I noticed the part about keeping guns away from "those who are not 18". This goes hand-in-hand with the government-school brainwashing curriculum that tells kids "Guns Are Evil"TM: by the time they hit 18 they're lost to the original cause of the Founding Fathers.

I've got a gun plan, and it's not very nice.....

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-01-14   1:09:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: X-15, All (#13) (Edited)

I noticed the part about keeping guns away from "those who are not 18". This goes hand-in-hand with the government-school brainwashing curriculum that tells kids "Guns Are Evil"TM: by the time they hit 18 they're lost to the original cause of the Founding Fathers.

This is why it is important to take a kid shooting.

My little brother came at me with that crap he learned at playskool. Then I took him shooting. Now he shoots more than I do.

It works. Try it.

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Nehemiah 4:14 And I looked and arose and said to the nobles and to the officials and to the rest of the people, “Do not be afraid of them. Remember the Lord, who is great and awesome, and fight for your brothers, your sons, your daughters, your wives, and your homes.”

PSUSA  posted on  2009-01-14   8:54:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: PSUSA (#0)

If you "belong" to the "federal" system you should appreciate your Uncle Sambo keepin you safe. Give up your guns or your Socialist Security. We report you decide.

Seriously, we need to rid the country of the "federal" reserve because they are behind all of these bullshit rules and laws coming out of their "federal" government.

noone222  posted on  2009-01-14   9:14:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: farmfriend (#4)

I'd keep my eye on this bill but I wouldn't worry too much about it at this time. The Congresscritter who is sponsoring this bill has no co-sponsors. He's also sponsoring another bill "To provide for research on, and services for individuals with, postpartum depression and psychosis" which also is going to go nowhere.

This Rep Rush, Bobby L. [IL-1] has stellar credentials. yuck, yuck According to wiki Rush is "...a former member and founder of the Illinois chapter of the Black Panther Party." Well, he should be an expert on guns that's for sure but maybe not so much on postpartum depression.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-01-14   9:21:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: scrapper2 (#16)

A Black Panther elected to the US Congress?? Where is the media on this? I mean after all everybody made a big deal about David Duke being a former Klansman when he was in the Louisiana legislature..

Lady X  posted on  2009-01-14   9:26:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: scrapper2 (#16)

He's also sponsoring another bill "To provide for research on, and services for individuals with, postpartum depression and psychosis" which ...

... could be based upon self-interest.

noone222  posted on  2009-01-14   9:27:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: noone222 (#15)

Seriously, we need to rid the country of the "federal" reserve because they are behind all of these bullshit rules and laws coming out of their "federal" government.

Every time you turn around, there is another "stimulus package" being passed.

The way I see it is that they are going down, and they know it, and are now reduced to grasping at straws to try and save themselves. Hence all the bailouts.

I don't see them as the "all powerful" Illuminati luciferian conspiracy types at all. IMO that is all disinfo. I see them as psychopaths that engage in conspiracies to further their own agendas. They might use various secret organizations, but they do it for their own purposes.

That they are crashing their own system is as natural as the sun rising in the east and setting in the west.

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Click for Privacy and Preparedness files

Nehemiah 4:14 And I looked and arose and said to the nobles and to the officials and to the rest of the people, “Do not be afraid of them. Remember the Lord, who is great and awesome, and fight for your brothers, your sons, your daughters, your wives, and your homes.”

PSUSA  posted on  2009-01-14   9:27:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: noone222 (#18)

... could be based upon self-interest.

Ha! You may be right - I forgot about the psychosis thingie.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-01-14   9:29:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: PSUSA (#19)

From another thread. I posted this:

The Israelis already have a major inflation problem developing with the influx of some 8.5 Trillion Dollars of stolen money market, retirement and other pension funds from America.

noone222  posted on  2009-01-14   9:29:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Lady X (#17)

A Black Panther elected to the US Congress?? Where is the media on this?

This guy represents South Chicago. Maybe the media hair-do's don't want to trouble trouble...

scrapper2  posted on  2009-01-14   9:40:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Lady X (#17) (Edited)

A Black Panther elected to the US Congress?? Where is the media on this? I mean after all everybody made a big deal about David Duke being a former Klansman when he was in the Louisiana legislature..

An uppity nigger can be dealt with in the woodshed of the plantation, a white rogue who questions affirmative action and openly rejects the pro-Israel "Never Again!!"TM agenda is the greatest danger to the NWO on the planet.

White people organizing along racial lines for freedom is the ultimate sin on this planet (what happened here in 1776 could not happen today).

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-01-14   12:03:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: scrapper2 (#16)

You are probably right. The push for Constitutional Conventions worry me though and I fully suspect they will try to push legislation as above through. I flat don't trust any of them.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2009-01-14   13:32:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: PSUSA, *libertarians* (#0)

ping

the american government is a disease masquerading as its own cure

freepatriot32  posted on  2009-01-14   14:05:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: PSUSA (#14)

This is why it is important to take a kid shooting.

I started my daughter at age 4. :)

I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.
Used Tires Albany, NY

Critter  posted on  2009-01-17   2:47:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: PSUSA (#0)

one sponsor.

Going nowhere.

. that dot is just a place marker

rack42  posted on  2009-01-17   5:25:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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