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Title: Reaction To My Palin Interview Proves The Point
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/j ... in-interview-proves-the-point/
Published: Jan 14, 2009
Author: John Ziegler
Post Date: 2009-01-14 10:29:22 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 991
Comments: 73

Unless you were hanging out with Joe the Plumber in Gaza this past week, you probably heard that I did an exclusive interview with Governor Sarah Palin for my forthcoming documentary, “Media Malpractice… How Obama Got Elected and Palin Was Smeared.”

The reaction to the interview excerpts has been far more intense and far more deranged than I expected. Quite simply, the media response has done more to prove the basic point of the documentary than just about anything I could have produced in the film.

Here are just a few ways in which this episode felt like I had suddenly become Alice in Wonderland (without the dress or blond hair).

Governor Palin’s comments about being taken out of context were clearly taken out of context and her statements that they were being taken out of context were themselves taken out of context in a blatant, though thus far, unsuccessful attempt to turn the Governor and I against each other.

The Governor’s measured, rational and accurate attempts to correct the historical record about the basis for which a Presidential election was decided were “reported” by the left as being “whiny,” “catty” and “delusional.” Folks, there’s a reason why there’s such a thing as a war crimes tribunal; some things you just have to get to the bottom of.

Palin’s incredibly mild and humorous pushback against two very grownup media stars (Katie Couric and Tina Fey) who clearly had it out for her, helped destroy her candidacy and who benefited greatly from doing so, was somehow “reported” as an “attack,” “taking shots,” and “not taking responsibility.” Please. This is almost like ripping a Jew for making a Nazi joke (No doubt, THAT will also be taken out of context).

Both the vaunted New York Times and the tiny liberal rag, the Alaska Dispatch (it was difficult to tell them apart since neither bothered to contact me before writing very deceiving pieces), figured out a way to discuss everything about the interview excerpts except the primary issue, which, of course, was their own malfeasance during the campaign. It’s become patently obvious we’ve reached a point where, especially when you’re a conservative, blatant bias, combined with the incredible shrinking attention span of the media and public, make it absolutely impossible to get a message out that is remotely nuanced. And once conventional wisdom is cemented, even when done so by a comedian on SNL with a clear agenda, there’s virtually no chance to set the record straight (again, especially if you’re a conservative and even more so if you’re seen in any way as a threat to Barack Obama).

While I’ve been most concerned with the unfair assaults on Governor Palin and the ignoring of the basic truths she reveals in our interview, I’ve also taken more than my share of shrapnel. It began with a bizarre appearance on MSNBC with David Shuster.

Instead of even bothering to pretend to find out the background of the interview or the nature of the “real Sarah Palin” (forget about why I did the interview or why I’m making a documentary), you would have thought I’d been accused of a major crime. I guess at MSNBC trying to get out the truth about Barack Obama and Sarah Palin may indeed qualify as such.

At one point after that appearance I was booked to do three more spots on Obama’s pet network (two of which had already been scheduled) as well as two more on Fox, one on CNN and one on Saturday’s version of the “Today Show.”

Next up was a live shot with Norah O’Donnell, with whom I’d gotten along great with the previous day during a lengthy interview (only 6.3 seconds of which was actually used, I believe) for that morning’s “Today Show.” After waiting around 30 minutes watching their largely non-condemning coverage of the post-impeachment press conference of Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich, I was not happy.

When O’Donnell hit me on the air with a totally out of context statement from the Governor’s office I hadn’t seen that made it sound like they thought I had misled them, I thankfully and correctly didn’t believe her and tossed the question aside. But on the follow up I let loose.

After that, I was suddenly bumped from “Hardball” on MSNBC, which I was very much looking forward to. (Chris Matthews is not only one of the stars of my new documentary, he also grew up with my deceased mother and many of my aunts and uncles in the Somerton section of Philadelphia. The only time I met Chris was at the home of my grandfather who passed away the day after the Palin interview). I didn’t view the cancellation as a coincidence. I was also bumped from “No Bias, No Bull” on CNN, which I had really wanted to do, if only for the inherent irony in it.

As for Keith Olbermann, he cherry picked an inaccurate description I gave (and have since corrected after being able to view a tape that I previously didn’t know existed) about how the Governor reacted to seeing his photo. It is my only regret of this entire bizarre week that I was not more accurate in that initial post for Big Hollywood and gave that professional liar even more of a chance to gloat over being called “evil” (doesn’t THAT say everything about MSNBC) than was warranted by the facts. He, of course, did not have the courage to even pretend to have me on his show.

Finally, Shuster, I guess feeling he hadn’t gotten much of me the first time, heavily promoted a “rematch” on his afternoon show. His behavior and journalistic ethics (is there such a thing any more?) hadn’t improved in the ensuing few hours between confrontations.

The next day I received a call at home from Governor Palin. We briefly discussed a miscommunication with her staff that led to some on the Alaska state side (who had nothing to do with the actual interview, which was conducted at her home) to be unprepared for the coming storm even though I had informed my contact person of my intentions the morning before the story broke open on Big Hollywood and Drudge.

The Governor also mentioned she had watched my first documentary, “Blocking the Path to 9/11,” and thought it highlighted just how deep the issue of media bias really goes. But mostly we discussed how the pathetic news coverage of this event proves the need for my new documentary. I think this episode has strengthened the resolve of both of us, each in our own way, to keep fighting to get the truth out on this subject. Once again, I was amazed at her courage to not back down when the average politician would do a George W. Bush and just lie in the fetal position. Sarah Palin is apparently no George Bush, and for that we should all be thankful.

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#1. To: christine (#0)

You a Palin fan?

angle  posted on  2009-01-14   11:05:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine (#0)

Once again, I was amazed at her courage to not back down when the average politician would do a George W. Bush and just lie in the fetal position. Sarah Palin is apparently no George Bush, and for that we should all be thankful.

No, she's definitely no George Bush and appears to have a lot more spine than the mediawhores had counted on. She was supposed to go back to Alaska and shut up, but the Moose Hunter from Wasilla is not afraid of going after big game.

From his account, Ziegler's, it looks like the Presstitutes are a bit unhappy and perhaps a little worried over this. They're now getting hit from the Left and the Right and are losing viewers and readers by the droves. Another hit on their credibility and some of the sheeple might conclude, how dreadful, that the Tee Bee Nooze and Noozepapers L-I-E. What a shocker.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-01-14   11:05:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Original_Intent (#2)

No, she's definitely no George Bush and appears to have a lot more spine than the mediawhores had counted on.

It seems to go well over some peoples heads that the ENTIRE political spectrum and MSM is hell bent to discredit and destroy Palin.

That fact escapes otherwise intelligent people.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-14   11:15:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Original_Intent (#2)

some of the sheeple might conclude, how dreadful, that the Tee Bee Nooze and Noozepapers L-I-E

Wouldn't that be a start? As for Palin, she sold herself out to the highest bidder and they found their gamble didn't pay off. If she had smarts, she's analyze her failures and know not to repeat them, she'd go back to work, mend her fences and build a resume.

angle  posted on  2009-01-14   11:15:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Cynicom (#3)

hell bent to discredit and destroy Palin

You give her waaay to much credit. She's a pretty girl with ambition but no real education or core. If she were honest and straightforward, she'd be saying stuff like, "What the hell is the Bush doctrine? I sure as hell don't give a rats ass." OR "Newspapers? Who reads those propaganda pieces of moose dung?"

As it turned out, she's just another actress in the show who some people like and who many many others thnk is a dim witted opportunist. I can't say they're wrong.

angle  posted on  2009-01-14   11:20:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Cynicom (#3)

It seems to go well over some peoples heads that the ENTIRE political spectrum and MSM is hell bent to discredit and destroy Palin.

That fact escapes otherwise intelligent people.

For me the "Cat was out of the bag" when the McNutz people started attacking her in "off the record" comments about her "going rogue" etc., ... It became clear to me that she had figured out the "set-up", that McCain was "taking a dive" and wanted none of the sham. Likely it outraged her and she got smart fast on what was actually going on with the sham (s)Election. Thus her comments going directly after Oh'bummer - relatively mild stuff that had the virtue of being true and cut through the PsyOps. Also was the connection she made with the Fundamentalist Community which the PTB have been working hard to neutralize and which tends to vote as a block. I think Sarah worries them, and the mediawhores, because she was picked to be a negative and ended up being much more popular and respected than they wanted.

A lot of cracks are beginning to appear in the PsyOp facade so this is getting interesting.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-01-14   11:23:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: angle (#5)

You give her waaay to much credit.

I give you little credit for the ability to understand what is going on here. It appears to be way over your head.

This is the first time in my life that I recall, pubs and dems, right and left in hand with the MSM bearing such interest in a proven loser.

If you find nothing there that seems odd, then you have indeed let partisanship blind you.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-14   11:24:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Original_Intent (#6)

McKooK openly said a few days ago that he would not necessarily support her if she ran for office.

Again, people here are so damned partisan they see nothing, hear nothing.

Palin LOST. Not a word about McKooK, he is back to doing everything to harm the country that he can, but Palin now, we have all guns zeroed in.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-14   11:26:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: angle (#4) (Edited)

some of the sheeple might conclude, how dreadful, that the Tee Bee Nooze and Noozepapers L-I-E

Wouldn't that be a start? As for Palin, she sold herself out to the highest bidder and they found their gamble didn't pay off. If she had smarts, she's analyze her failures and know not to repeat them, she'd go back to work, mend her fences and build a resume.

Well, she IS a politician. However, she does appear to actually have core values that she will not sell out. I think she was, at first, taken with the glamour, but she has enough depth to where it did wear off. That, having positive values, as it did with Ron Paul, makes her a danger to the Alpha Plutocrats. I think she has wised up, some anyway, and is beginning to do what she can to hit back. It would not surprise me to see her wake up, after her recent "reality check", and discover that Bush was actually a sociopathic monster, perhaps even that 911 WAS an inside job.

Time will tell.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-01-14   11:31:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Cynicom (#7) (Edited)

You have your head turned by a pretty girl is all. You She can't string a few sentences together to make a paragraph. Yet you laud her and vilify Ron Paul. She ain't no great shakes and was picked by the very people you say you revile. Yet you're all over your theory about how the media is trouncing her. They're trouncing her because it fills up the newspaper with fake drama. Notice ain't nothing on about the bailout, the funds, the war, Gaza or the depression. She's a distraction is all. But go ahead with your theories, they might prove to be correct, but so what...she's a small piece of the dysfunction. Talk talk and we go nowhere.

angle  posted on  2009-01-14   11:31:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Original_Intent (#9)

It would not surprise me to see her wake up, after her recent "reality check", and discover that Bush was actually sociopathic monster, perhaps even that 911 WAS an inside job.

Time will tell.

Well good for her then. May it be sooner rather than later.

angle  posted on  2009-01-14   11:32:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Cynicom (#3) (Edited)

ENTIRE political spectrum and MSM is hell bent to discredit and destroy Palin.

That's BS and you know it. The neoconservative media pimped her from day one, and they're still playing her fans like a drum. Don't believe me? Do a net search using "Palin" and "National Review" or "Weekly Standard." The same people who criticize and ridicule Bush criticize and ridicule Palin, and the people who like Bush like Palin too. No more, no less.

What amazes me is that so many people are taken in by it. This "Sarah is a victim of the liberal media" sounds awfully like "George W. Bush is a victim of leftwing media bias" that the Bushbots kept giving us for the past 8 years. The neocons wave a red false flag, and the Palinbots and Bushbots go charging like dumb bulls.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-01-14   11:34:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom (#8)

McKooK openly said a few days ago that he would not necessarily support her if she ran for office.

He's a wholly owned whore - and knows he "took a dive".

Again, people here are so damned partisan they see nothing, hear nothing.

I'm afraid that point needs to be made over and over and maybe, eventually, some day, it will sink in: "The "Two-Party" Circus is just that - A Circus. The two faux parties are controlled by the same people at the top of the power pyramid. At one time we did have a multi-party system but that was before FDR - probably before Hoover.

Palin LOST. Not a word about McKooK, he is back to doing everything to harm the country that he can, but Palin now, we have all guns zeroed in.

McPutz did exactly was he was told to do - he took a dive and then shut up. Sarah was not in on the CON, but seems to have figured it out and doesn't like it. Thus the repeated media attacks on her. The PTB want to use the media to destroy her but she is being very uncooperative.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-01-14   11:38:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Original_Intent (#9)

Too many people did not read Palins comment about ...class...if they did it went over their heads or just perhaps they are the elite upper class.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-14   11:39:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: angle (#10)

You have your head turned by a pretty girl is all.

Angle...

If you want to discuss, lets do it on a little more intellectual level, otherwise I wont waste my time. For once cast off your partisanship and address the the issue Palin raised.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-14   11:40:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Original_Intent (#13)

McPutz did exactly was he was told to do

McKooK took a dive as did Ron Paul, left Americans with no one to vote for, and 80 million of us did just that.

The sheep did their patriotic duty and propped up this corrupt government one more time.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-14   11:43:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#12)

That's BS and you know it. The neoconservative media pimped her from day one, and they're still playing her fans like a drum. Don't believe me? Do a net search using "Palin" and "National Review" or "Weekly Standard."

Again, you have to read between the lines, step back and look at the global picture and solve the puzzle.

Yes, some of the NeoCon media has been kind to her - they have to in order to maintain the facade - but it is far from all. The Nasty Review and Weekly (sub)Standard have a relatively small audience. The major media has a LARGE audience. As we both know it is neither liberal or conservative BUT PsyOps. So, you have to look at the broad grain and take ALL of the data into account.

I'm not a Sarah booster, although I don't dislike her, but the image coming through the noise is one of someone who is both smarter and more independent that our would-be masters want.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-01-14   11:46:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Cynicom (#14)

Too many people did not read Palins comment about ...class...if they did it went over their heads or just perhaps they are the elite upper class.

It was a very important point and one which the Upper Class (self-styled by virtue of having money stolen by their ancestors) does not want the hoi polloi to notice. That is one cultural division that they do not want revived because that one affects them directly and focuses attention on THEM.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-01-14   11:50:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: angle (#1)

The Governor also mentioned she had watched my first documentary, “Blocking the Path to 9/11,” and thought it highlighted just how deep the issue of media bias really goes. But mostly we discussed how the pathetic news coverage of this event proves the need for my new documentary. I think this episode has strengthened the resolve of both of us, each in our own way, to keep fighting to get the truth out on this subject. Once again, I was amazed at her courage to not back down when the average politician would do a George W. Bush and just lie in the fetal position. Sarah Palin is apparently no George Bush, and for that we should all be thankful.

no, i'm not a Palin fan. i'm not a fan of any politician, but i am willing to give credit where credit is due even with obama. you should know that by now. this one i posted for discussion particularly because of the last paragraph.

christine  posted on  2009-01-14   11:51:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Original_Intent (#17) (Edited)

some of the NeoCon media has been kind to her - they have to in order to maintain the facade

They've been more than kind to her.

McCain's VP pick was no accident: she was picked by the neocons as a false flag operation, hoping that her "independent" and faux populist image would channel malcontent Ron Paul voters into a harmless, neoconservative-friendly playpen.

Her fans here just don't get it.

The Nasty Review and Weekly (sub) Standard have a relatively small audience. The major media has a LARGE audience

For illiterates, there's always Rush Limbaugh, Mike Savage and Fox News. They have the same message as NR and WS, just for a much bigger and dumber audience.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-01-14   11:52:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: angle (#5)

If she were honest and straightforward, she'd be saying stuff like, "What the hell is the Bush doctrine? I sure as hell don't give a rats ass." OR "Newspapers? Who reads those propaganda pieces of moose dung?"

She doesn't talk like that, she's too nice to make it at the national level of American politics.

With her involvement in the Alaska independence movement, I wonder if her idiotic statements about illegal immigration (an exact echo of McStain) were really her own thoughts??

Time will tell who she is now that she doesn't have to kowtow to the mad little dictator from Arizona.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-01-14   11:54:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Original_IntentRupert_Pupkin (#17)

I'm not a Sarah booster, although I don't dislike her,

Neither for nor against Palin seems to be too big a mental burden for some people to manage.

Palin in the interview indicated this...she is of the LOWER CLASS...and that seems to have a great bearing on the political scene.

Why this is such an insurmountable obstacle beggars reality. Just perhaps ...class...is indeed the reason of the open season????

Perhaps I misread some here in that they are indeed of the elite class and class is important.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-14   11:55:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#20)

McCain's VP pick was no accident: she was picked by the neocons as a false flag operation, hoping that her "independent" and faux populist image would channel malcontent Ron Paul voters in a harmless, neoconservative direction.

I believe that analysis correct as far as it goes. What I think you are leaving out though is, for me, one of the Key Datums - McCain's people began attacking her before the (s)Election. That just does not happen in a legitimate campaign. What it signalled to me was that Sarah was not content to roll over and take one for the NWO. So, the purpose now in demonizing her is to correct for the miscalculation in choosing someone who would not roll over and play dead. Regardless of where I disagree with her on issues, and there are issues, the broad grain seems to be spelling out that Sarah has been a "bad girl" who was a lot brighter than the Plutocracy had counted on - and with a bit more integrity. Also they may have pissed her off by going after her family. NEVER attack a woman's family - she'll kill you. (Gotta run.)

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-01-14   11:59:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: angle (#1)

palin lost me early on with her stated support of the wars and amnesty.

christine  posted on  2009-01-14   12:00:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Cynicom (#22)

Just perhaps ...class...is indeed the reason of the open season????

Snobs hiding behind Palin and her party is the excuse. Same with mysoginists. Once you take Palin the person out of the discussion you have the meat of the issue. Funny, few care to belly up to the table and chew the fat.

"Where once a tyrant had to wish that his subjects had but one common neck that he might strangle them all at once, all he has to do now is to 'educate the people' so that they will have but one common mind to delude." -- Richard Mitchell (1929-2002) Professor at Glassboro State College, NJ, author, founder and publisher of The Underground Grammarian Source: The Underground Grammarian

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2009-01-14   12:04:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: christine (#24)

And she is an Israeli firster.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-14   12:05:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: X-15 (#21)

With her involvement in the Alaska independence movement, I wonder if her idiotic statements about illegal immigration (an exact echo of McStain) were really her own thoughts??

does that really matter? the point is she was more than willing to go with the status quo. there was never anything she said during the campaign, when it counted, that would indicate she was an independent. had she spoken up like Ron Paul, that would have been a moose of a different color.

christine  posted on  2009-01-14   12:05:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: OliviaFNewton (#25)

I have my doubts if some people here even bothered to read or listen to the interview where the issue of class was raised by Palin.

There was only one MSM that wrote a blurb that high lighted that assertion and it was taken down after two hours. The rest of MSM totally silent.

Just for the sake of argument, lets say Palin had said...race...instead of class.

Our friends here and MSM would still be frothing at the mouth.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-14   12:10:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: christine (#27)

Good point.

She made a deal with the Arizona devil and she's reaping what she sowed.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-01-14   12:12:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Cynicom (#28) (Edited)

I have my doubts if some people here even bothered to read or listen to the interview where the issue of class was raised by Palin.

There was only one MSM that wrote a blurb that high lighted that assertion and it was taken down after two hours. The rest of MSM totally silent.

Just for the sake of argument, lets say Palin had said...race...instead of class.

Our friends here and MSM would still be frothing at the mouth.

The morning braintrust at MSNBC did. They say she has just killed her future political chances with that comment. That to compare the treatment of herself in the media with what MAY BE SEEN with Princess Caroline of Manhattan, should be instructive. OH NO, they said. Media has been hard on Caroline. Well, if memory serves from the moment Palin was announced as VP candidate all in the press were instantly covered in rage and hives.. making up rumors about her children, denouncing the Downs baby, talking about PEOPLE that work with their hands.... that she had adopted her own daughters baby.. etc. Um.. did that happen to Caroline? what do we know about her children? Her church? Her political positions? Her husbands 'WORK'. His ancestry. His tax returns.

Did the airdrop poop hunters in to the National Archives to dig up dirt on Carolines eating habits and fat thighs in school? Why does she walk like Shrek? Can she get those teeth fixed? Why can't she speak properly?

Yeahhhhhh.. big difference. However, the press saw this as an attack on THEMSELVES, and held a trial and found themselves a little bit biased, but nothing that should give Palin or regular people the right to whine about.

After all, THEY are journalists and are objective.

Palin has withstood quite a firestorm and you have to give her credit.

Did the press apply the same scrutiny on Obama. No. Biden. No. Richardson. No. Hillary.. please..

No, Palin is LOW CLASS as such carries no 'free pass'. We may not agree with her politics, but all politicians should undergo the same palinoscopy.

"Where once a tyrant had to wish that his subjects had but one common neck that he might strangle them all at once, all he has to do now is to 'educate the people' so that they will have but one common mind to delude." -- Richard Mitchell (1929-2002) Professor at Glassboro State College, NJ, author, founder and publisher of The Underground Grammarian Source: The Underground Grammarian

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2009-01-14   12:20:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: OliviaFNewton (#30)

No, Palin is LOW CLASS as such carries

Therein lies peoples malice, how dare one of the lower class raise the issue of class.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-14   12:25:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Cynicom (#15)

There's plenty of fodder there. I'll match my "intellectual" ism with yours anyday. Waste time is what you do when you respond with these pathetic attempts at barbs. Partisian? Your attempts to portray your swooning as critical analysis as you continue your diatribe against Ron Paul is old and tired and still not convincing.

angle  posted on  2009-01-14   12:27:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Cynicom (#31)

No, Palin is LOW CLASS as such carries

Therein lies peoples malice, how dare one of the lower class raise the issue of class.

Which is why our educated betters are scared sh*less of us. They are not quite sure how they would do in a head to head contest. They only know how to move amongst their own ilk.

"Where once a tyrant had to wish that his subjects had but one common neck that he might strangle them all at once, all he has to do now is to 'educate the people' so that they will have but one common mind to delude." -- Richard Mitchell (1929-2002) Professor at Glassboro State College, NJ, author, founder and publisher of The Underground Grammarian Source: The Underground Grammarian

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2009-01-14   12:29:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: angle (#31)

peoples malice

The malice comes from presenting herself as something other than what she is. She dressed up like President Barbie and couldn't pull it off. Had she been the real deal, she wouldn't have made those mistakes. She's an opportunist is all. And she may be low class as well, but it ain't because of her economic status.

angle  posted on  2009-01-14   12:31:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: angle (#34)

The malice comes from presenting herself as something other than what she is. She dressed up like President Barbie and couldn't pull it off. Had she been the real deal, she wouldn't have made those mistakes. She's an opportunist is all. And she may be low class as well, but it ain't because of her economic status.

angle...

People talking to themselves is a sign of olde age...

Other than that. Just pure partisanship and you know it and so do the rest of us.

Why not address the class issue or are you afraid to do so?

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-14   12:34:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: angle (#32)

There's plenty of fodder there. I'll match my "intellectual" ism with yours anyday.

You have already lost my friend. Just scan your very first post on this thread to Christine.

Speak of an intellectual question, that was a winner, and gave anyone reading a good indication of where you wanted to go.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-14   12:36:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: angle (#34) (Edited)

Legitimate criticisms of Palin may be applied ten times over to Hitlery, yet the MSM continues to be her personal dildo. The original point of the article is beyond question when it comes to bias.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-01-14   12:36:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: X-15, angle (#37)

The original point of the article is beyond question when it comes to bias.

No one seems to want to discuss the interview itself.

Palin raised the class issue, not a word from MSM pro or con.. Not a word.

Then after this lengthy article the best an informed angle can come up with is...Are you a Palin fan?

I suspect we have many Obongo voters and supporters here.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-14   12:48:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Cynicom (#36) (Edited)

My question to christine was a request for a straightforward answer as to where she stood on Palin. She was able to respond clearly and concisely. Your responses however dance around your position, which I can only surmise to be a closet neocon supporter.

angle  posted on  2009-01-14   12:55:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Cynicom (#35)

so do the rest of us

Who are you lumping in that prestigous grouping? As far as the invitation to your class discussion circle jerk, no thank you. The premise of the article is spurious as is your insistence there's an issue to be made.

angle  posted on  2009-01-14   12:58:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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