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Title: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy
Source: FoxNews
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/ele ... rys-dont-ask-dont-tell-policy/
Published: Jan 15, 2009
Author: Carl Cameron
Post Date: 2009-01-15 12:00:22 by X-15
Keywords: queers, faggots, AIDS
Views: 208
Comments: 10

WASHINGTON President-elect Barack Obama will allow gays to serve openly in the military by overturning the controversial "don't ask, don't tell" policy that marred President Clinton's first days in office, according to incoming White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs.

The startling pronouncement, which could re-open a dormant battle in the culture wars and distract from other elements of Obama's agenda, came during a Gibbs exchange with members of the public who sent in questions that were answered on YouTube.

"Thadeus of Lansing, Mich., asks, 'Is the new administration going to get rid of the "don't ask, don't tell policy?'" said Gibbs, looking into the camera. "Thadeus, you don't hear a politician give a one-word answer much. But it's, 'Yes.'"

The Obama transition team declined to elaborate on that one-word answer when asked by FOX News on Wednesday about a timetable for repealing the policy, which was enacted by Clinton after a protracted public debate. Obama officials also would not explain which lawmakers or Pentagon officials would attempt to repeal "don't ask, don't tell."

Clinton, who initially sought to overturn the longstanding ban on gays in the military, ended up enacting the "don't ask, don't tell" policy as a compromise that made it illegal for commanders to ask about the sexual orientation of service members, who were also barred from announcing they were homosexual. If a service member's homosexuality becomes known anyway, he or she is expelled.

Clinton is widely viewed as having stumbled during his first days in office by getting caught up in the raging controversy, which detracted from the rest of his agenda. It is not yet clear whether Obama would face a similar debacle.

For years, Obama has said he generally opposes the "don't ask, don't tell" policy. Last summer, he told a gay magazine he can "reasonably" see it being repealed. But that was a far cry from Gibbs' unequivocal promise that the policy will indeed be ended.

The gay community is eager for a quick repeal of "don't ask, don't tell," but fears it could be months before the new administration reaches a consensus with lawmakers and the military. Others think Obama could do it quickly, but is leery of the kind of fallout Bill Clinton faced when he tackled the divisive issue.

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#1. To: X-15 (#0)

What else is a Commander-On-The-Down-Low to do?

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-01-15   12:09:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: X-15 (#0)

President-elect Barack Obama will allow gays to serve openly in the military by overturning the controversial "don't ask, don't tell" policy

"Don't ask,Don't tell" was a policy mandated under federal law. In the old days, Presidents didn't make or change laws, Congress did.

Maybe Fox News knows something I don't know about how federal law is changed.

honway  posted on  2009-01-15   12:22:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: X-15 (#0)

Well that's all good & fine. Any word on what He's going to do about the jews who are systematically looting this nation?

Didn't think so.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-01-15   12:24:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Prefrontal Vortex, honway, All (#1)

It would behoove Obummer to recall American military history and LAW:

George Washington, the nation's first Commander-in-Chief, held a strong opinion on this subject and gave a clear statement of his views on it in his general orders for March 14, 1778:

At a General Court Martial whereof Colo. Tupper was President (10th March 1778), Lieutt. Enslin of Colo. Malcom's Regiment [was] tried for attempting to commit sodomy, with John Monhort a soldier; Secondly, For Perjury in swearing to false accounts, [he was] found guilty of the charges exhibited against him, being breaches of 5th. Article 18th. Section of the Articles of War and [we] do sentence him to be dismiss'd [from] the service with infamy. His Excellency the Commander in Chief approves the sentence and with abhorrence and detestation of such infamous crimes orders Lieutt. Enslin to be drummed out of camp tomorrow morning by all the drummers and fifers in the Army never to return; The drummers and fifers [are] to attend on the Grand Parade at Guard mounting for that Purpose.

Source: George Washington, The Writings of George Washington, John C. Fitzpatrick, editor (Washington: U. S. Government Printing Office, 1934), Vol. XI, pp. 83-84, from General Orders at Valley Forge on March 14, 1778.(

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-01-15   12:27:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: X-15 (#4)

It would behoove Obummer to recall American military history and LAW:

George Washington, the nation's first Commander-in-Chief, held a strong opinion on this subject and gave a clear statement of his views on it in his general orders for March 14, 1778:

That was then, this now and President Obiebummer is Mr. Now.

I wish I could be a fly on the fly and hear what was said and see the shocked faces of the Rainbow Coalition members today. They want lotsa lotsa rights but being drafted to serve in a dirty sandy war with flies all round and no shopping malls nearby is not what they were counting on when they rallied round the flag pole for The Messiah President.

yuck, yuck

scrapper2  posted on  2009-01-15   12:33:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#1)

Remember, this was Bill Clinton's first priority when he assumed office in 1993. The Obummer Presidency is going to be Clinton's third term, no question about it.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-01-15   12:37:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#6)

He's gotta make up to all the Californian gays pissed off at blacks for killing the ballot initiative.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-01-15   12:39:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#7)

He's gotta make up to all the Californian gays pissed off at blacks for killing the ballot initiative.

The liberal political coalition makes for strange bedfellows. It includes both Jews and Muslims (although more Jews are becoming neocon Republicans), blacks and Mexicans (who often hate each other more than they hate white people), women's lib types, and homosexuals (who are hated by black Protestants, macho Hispanic Catholics, and by Muslims).

People like Obummer and Clinton have their hands full trying to keep this coalition together.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-01-15   12:44:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#8)

Reparations for black slavery in America is the unspoken secret weapon Obummer will spring upon us. That'll pacify the ghetto-rats.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-01-15   13:50:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: X-15 (#9)

I'm not paying reparations..get real people..

I don't care what Oghetto sez..

Lady X  posted on  2009-01-15   14:31:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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