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Title: Breaking: Bush commutes sentences of Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean
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Published: Jan 19, 2009
Author: MSM
Post Date: 2009-01-19 13:03:14 by Jethro Tull
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Views: 354
Comments: 36

Well done Jorge. Now leave us alone.

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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

i am shocked, but that is a little redemption for bush!!!

christine  posted on  2009-01-19   13:04:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Even a noseless pig can find a truffle, if it digs enough holes.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-01-19   13:05:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Great news bump!

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-01-19   13:05:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: PSUSA, lodwick, all (#2)

Yep, this is good.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-01-19   13:07:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

They say prayers are not answered.

Bush pardons 2 former border guards By DEB RIECHMANN – 5 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — President George W. Bush has commuted the prison sentences of two former Border Patrol guards whose convictions for shooting a Mexican drug dealer ignited debate about illegal immigration.

Bush's act of clemency on Monday for Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean was a victory for Democratic and Republican members of Congress and others who pleaded with the president to pardon the men or at least commute their sentences.

Ramos and Compean are each serving sentences of more than 10 years for shooting an unarmed illegal immigrant as he was fleeing an abandoned marijuana load in 2005, then trying to cover it up.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j6mH44rWD9yyZf_AZ7YxQDVFL7WwD9 5QC0O81

randge  posted on  2009-01-19   13:08:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Fantastic but I am afraid he is gonna pardon that Israeli spy..

Lady X  posted on  2009-01-19   13:08:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: randge (#5)

Hang on a minute...looks like their sentences were commuted, but no pardon. Still...they are free! Excellent!

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2009-01-19   13:09:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: randge (#5)

Prayer and I suspect lots of folks followed your last minute email appeal. Good job, randge!!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-01-19   13:09:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: who knows what evil (#7)

That's what the lawyers were looking for.

They can still fight their convictions now.

randge  posted on  2009-01-19   13:10:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Lady X (#6)

Fantastic but I am afraid he is gonna pardon that Israeli spy..

He usually turns in around 9PM, after a double 6-pack and a bag of pretzels, so there's lots of time left.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-01-19   13:11:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jethro Tull (#8)

It would be nice to take the credit for that, wouldn't it?

I think that a lot of folks were thinking about them and contacting the WH today. The switchboard was swamped. Don't know how much of that was for R & C., but I'll bet a lot of it was.

randge  posted on  2009-01-19   13:13:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Jethro Tull (#10)

I am a little less disgusted today.

Disgusted  posted on  2009-01-19   13:14:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Jethro Tull (#10)

He usually turns in around 9PM, after a double 6-pack and a bag of pretzels, so there's lots of time left.

Tomorrow nite it will be...KENTUCKY FRIED CHICKEN...

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-19   13:16:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Disgusted (#12)

Give it 24 hours, Disgusted. Tomorrow we can all witness a large section of DeeCee turned into "Little Africa" right before our very eyes. Please stop by for the festivities right here on 4um!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-01-19   13:17:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Disgusted (#12)

I am a little less disgusted today.

Not me.

Bush is trying to salve his conscience, the rotten bastard.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-19   13:18:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Cynicom (#13)

Tomorrow nite it will be...KENTUCKY FRIED CHICKEN...

As one old racist to another, that's FUNNY!!!!!!!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-01-19   13:19:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: who knows what evil (#7)

It takes two breaking stories for AP to get it right.

Do these reporter think to ask relevant questions when the phone rings? Does the light bulb light up when items cross the editor's desk?

I guess not.

Bush commutes sentences of former US border agents By DEB RIECHMANN – 12 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — In his final acts of clemency, President George W. Bush on Monday commuted the prison sentences of two former U.S. Border Patrol agents whose convictions for shooting a Mexican drug dealer ignited fierce debate about illegal immigration.

Bush's decision to commute the sentences of Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, who tried to cover up the shooting, was welcomed by both Republican and Democratic members of Congress. They had long argued that the agents were merely doing their jobs, defending the American border against criminals. They also maintained that the more than 10-year prison sentences the pair was given were too harsh.

Rancor over their convictions, sentencing and firings has simmered ever since the shooting occurred in 2005.

Ramos and Compean became a rallying point among conservatives and on talk shows where their supporters called them heroes. Nearly the entire bipartisan congressional delegation from Texas and other lawmakers from both sides of the political aisle pleaded with Bush to grant them clemency.

Bush didn't pardon the men for their crimes, but decided instead to commute their prison sentences because he believed they were excessive and that they had already suffered the loss of their jobs, freedom and reputations, a senior administration official said.

The action by the president, who believes the border agents received fair trials and that the verdicts were just, does not diminish the seriousness of their crimes, the official said.

Compean and Ramos, who have served about two years of their sentences, are expected to be released from prison within the next two months.

They were convicted of shooting admitted drug smuggler Osvaldo Aldrete Davila in the buttocks as he fled across the Rio Grande, away from an abandoned van load of marijuana. The border agents argued during their trials that they believed the smuggler was armed and that they shot him in self defense. The prosecutor in the case said there was no evidence linking the smuggler to the van of marijuana. The prosecutor also said the border agents didn't report the shooting and tampered with evidence by picking up several spent shell casings.

The agents were fired after their convictions on several charges, including assault with a dangerous weapon and with serious bodily injury, violation of civil rights and obstruction of justice. All their convictions, except obstruction of justice, were upheld on appeal.

With the new acts of clemency, Bush has granted a total of 189 pardons and 11 commutations.

randge  posted on  2009-01-19   13:21:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Jethro Tull (#16)

I told you, O bongos SS code name is...PO'K CHOP...

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-19   13:22:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: randge (#17)

The action by the president, who believes the border agents received fair trials and that the verdicts were just,

That makes me sick.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-19   13:24:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Cynicom, randge, christine, Rotara, all (#19)

The action by the president, who believes the border agents received fair trials and that the verdicts were just,

That makes me sick.

He can't admit they were railroaded because that would reflect back on him and the fact that the persecutions were motivated to inhibit the enforcement of the border.

This is a PSYOP.

It appears to be aimed at creating a euphoric boost among the element resisting the ongoing criminality and paves the way for Obongo to ascend unto the heights as the new designated puppet.

Watch the other hand.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-01-19   13:29:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Cynicom (#15)

Bush is trying to salve his conscience, the rotten bastard.

There's been a lot of Republican heat that's been stoked up from the grass roots that are ablaze over this. Guys like Sen. John Cornyn and Rep. Brian Bilbray have been keeping up the pressure urged on by local groups that have camped out in Congress.

Bush hasn't skipped off to Paraguay yet. He still has to live with these people.

randge  posted on  2009-01-19   13:29:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: randge (#21)

I have nothing but contempt and disdain for that despicable person.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-19   13:33:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Cynicom (#22)

that despicable person

I'm glad that I won't have to listen to his s**t any more.

Anywho, I'm going to celebrate tonight.

Should have mentioned Rep. Ted Poe, R-Humble, and Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa who stayed on Jr's case.

randge  posted on  2009-01-19   13:40:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Jethro Tull (#0) (Edited)

Breaking: Bush pardons Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean

How much would you like to bet that if their names were Smith and Johnson instead of Ramos and Compean, they'd still be rotting in jail?

Their ethnicity earned them the pardon (it's not as bad if one Mexican shoots another). Kind of like how black comedians can use the word "nigger" with impunity.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-01-19   13:42:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: randge (#23)

Bush has well earned the hatred of the American people. I hope it dogs him the rest of his miserable life.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-19   13:44:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#24)

How much would you like to bet that if their names were Smith and Johnson instead of Ramos and Compean, they'd still be rotting in jail?

You are very correct.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-19   13:45:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Cynicom (#25)

Bush has well earned the hatred of the American people. I hope it dogs him the rest of his miserable life.

Unfortunately, I fear that after about two months of O'boingo, we'll be wishing for 'the good old days' of Scumbya.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-01-19   13:56:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Esso (#27)

Unfortunately, I fear that after about two months of O'boingo, we'll be wishing for 'the good old days' of Scumbya.

See, now you have ruined the rest of my day. I hope you are satisfied?

From tomorrow on we have been promised sweetness and light, are you saying I been swindled again???

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-19   14:02:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Esso (#27)

Unfortunately, I fear that after about two months of O'boingo, we'll be wishing for 'the good old days' of Scumbya.

I remember how happy I was on Jan 20th when Clinton left office. I didn't stay happy for long. Dumbya made me nostalgic for the "good old days" of Clinton, just as Clinton made me nostalgic for the "good old days" of Bush 41.

Obama won't disappoint, he'll carry on a proud tradition since '88 of every President being worse than the one before him.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-01-19   14:07:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Cynicom (#28)

From tomorrow on we have been promised sweetness and light, are you saying I been swindled again???

You've been through this enough times. You should be used to it by now.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-01-19   14:21:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#29)

Obama won't disappoint, he'll carry on a proud tradition since '88 of every President being [at least an order of magnitude] worse than the one before him.

I thought I was the only one who recognized that.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-01-19   14:27:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Cynicom (#28)

From tomorrow on we have been promised sweetness and light

That would actually be rainbows and unicorns.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-01-19   14:41:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Jethro Tull (#32)

That would actually be rainbows and unicorns.

I think we all know where that unicorn's horn is going...

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2009-01-19   14:44:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: who knows what evil, Jethro Tull (#33)

I think we all know where that unicorn's horn is going...

OUCH!

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-01-19   14:46:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Original_Intent (#20)

This is TOTAL "last THING jorge arbusto DID was to.." PSYOPS.

100% and complete.

He's a real mother fucker, but at least they're free. sutton, gonzalez and bush haven't begun to pay for this. Their masters actually should pay FIRST.

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-01-19   15:43:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#29)

I remember how happy I was on Jan 20th when Clinton left office. I didn't stay happy for long. Dumbya made me nostalgic for the "good old days" of Clinton, just as Clinton made me nostalgic for the "good old days" of Bush 41.

Obama won't disappoint, he'll carry on a proud tradition since '88 of every President being worse than the one before him.

It pained me to stare it down and accept, but Ronald Reagan was one of those mother fuckers too.

::sigh::

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-01-19   15:45:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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