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Title: Why did God command the extermination of the Canaanites, women and children included?
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Published: Jan 19, 2009
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Why did God command the extermination of the Canaanites, women and children included? Question: "Why did God command the extermination of the Canaanites, women and children included?" Answer: In 1 Samuel 15:2-3, God commanded Saul and the Israelites, “This is what the LORD Almighty says: 'I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'" God ordered similar things when the Israelites were invading the promised land (Deuteronomy 2:34; 3:6; 20:16-18). Why would God have the Israelites exterminate an entire group of people, women and children included? This is honestly a very difficult issue. We do not fully understand why God would command such a thing, but at the same time we trust God that He is just – and recognize that we are incapable of fully understanding a sovereign, infinite, and eternal God. As we look at difficult issues such as this one, we have to remember that God’s ways are higher than our ways and His thoughts are higher than our thoughts (Isaiah 55:9; Romans 11:33-36). We have to be willing to trust God and have faith in Him even when we do not understand His ways. Unlike us, God knows the future. God knew what the results would be if Israel did not completely eradicate the Amalekites. If Israel did not carry out God’s orders, the Amalekites would come back to “haunt” the Israelites again and again. Saul claimed to have killed everyone but the Amalekite king Agag (1 Samuel 15:20). Obviously Saul was lying…just a couple of decades later there were enough Amalekites to take David and his men’s families captive (1 Samuel 30:1-2). After David and his men attacked the Amalekites and rescued their families, 400 Amalekites escaped. If Saul had fulfilled what God had commanded him, this never would have occurred. Several hundred years later, a descendant of Agag, Haman, tried to have the entire Jewish people exterminated (see the book of Esther). So, Saul’s incomplete obedience almost resulted in Israel’s destruction. God knew this would occur, so He ordered the extermination of the Amalekites ahead of time. In regard to the Canaanites, God commanded, “However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them — the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites — as the LORD your God has commanded you. Otherwise, they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshiping their gods, and you will sin against the LORD your God” (Deuteronomy 20:16-18). The Israelites failed in this mission as well, and exactly what God said would happen occurred (Judges 2:1-3; 1 Kings 11:5; 14:24; 2 Kings 16:3-4). God did not order the extermination of these people to be cruel, but rather to prevent even greater evil from occurring in the future. Probably the most difficult part of these commands from God is that God ordered the death of children and infants as well. Why would God order the death of innocent children? (1) Children are not innocent (Psalm 51:5; 58:3). (2) These children would have likely grown up as adherents to the evil religions and practices of their parents. (3) By ending their lives as children, God enabled them to have entrance into Heaven. We strongly believe that all children who die are accepted into Heaven by the grace and mercy of God (2 Samuel 12:22-23; Mark 10:14-15; Matthew 18:2-4). Again, this answer does not completely deal with all the issues. Our focus should be on trusting God even when we do not understand His ways. We also have to remember that God looks at things from an eternal perspective, and that His ways are higher than our ways. God is just, righteous, holy, loving, merciful, and gracious. How His attributes work together can be a mystery to us – but that does not mean that He is not who the Bible proclaims Him to be. Recommended Resource: Show Them No Mercy: 4 Views on God and Canaanite Genocide. Related Topics: Why is God so different in the Old Testament than He is in the New Testament? How do I get the image of God as imposing and angry out of my mind? Did God create evil? Why is God a jealous God? Is it wrong to question God? poster comment: Deu 7:1 — When the LORD thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou; http://www.blueletterbible.org/s...k.cfm?b=Deu&c=7&v=1&t=KJV Deuteronomy 7:1-26 Deu 7:2 And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, [and] utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: Deu 7:3 Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son. Deu 7:4 **** For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods: so will the anger of the LORD be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly........ http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Deu&c=7&v=1 ...Jos 23:12 Else if ye do in any wise go back, and cleave unto the remnant of these nations, [even] these that remain among you, and shall make marriages with them, and go in unto them, and they to you: Jos 23:13 Know for a certainty that the LORD your God will no more drive out [any of] these nations from before you; but they shall be snares and traps unto you, and scourges in your sides, and thorns in your eyes, until ye perish from off this good land which the LORD your God hath given you. Jdg 3:2 Now these [are] the nations which the LORD left, to prove Israel by them, [even] as many [of Israel] as had not known all the wars of Canaan; Jdg 3:2 Only that the generations of the children of Israel might know, to teach them war, at the least such as before knew nothing thereof; Jdg 3:3 [Namely], five lords of the Philistines, and all the Canaanites, and the Sidonians, and the Hivites that dwelt in mount Lebanon, from mount Baalhermon unto the entering in of Hamath. Jdg 3:4 And they were to prove Israel by them, to know whether they would hearken unto the commandments of the LORD, which he commanded their fathers by the hand of Moses. Jdg 3:5 And the children of Israel dwelt among the Canaanites, Hittites, and Amorites, and Perizzites, and Hivites, and Jebusites: Jdg 3:6 And they took their daughters to be their wives, and gave their daughters to their sons, and served their gods. Jdg 3:7 And the children of Israel did evil in the sight of the LORD, and forgat the LORD their God, and served Baalim and the groves...... 1Ki 11:2 Of the nations [concerning] which the LORD said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall not go in to them, neither shall they come in unto you: [for] surely they will turn away your heart after their gods: Solomon clave unto these in love. Ezr 9:1 Now when these things were done, the princes came to me, saying, The people of Israel, and the priests, and the Levites, have not separated themselves from the people of the lands, [doing] according to their abominations, [even] of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Jebusites, the Ammonites, the Moabites, the Egyptians, and the Amorites. Ezr 9:2 For they have taken of their daughters for themselves, and for their sons: so that the holy seed have mingled themselves with the people of [those] lands: yea, the hand of the princes and rulers hath been chief in this trespass......... http://www.blueletterbible.org/s...k.cfm?b=Deu&c=7&v=3&t=KJV 1Ki 11:1 But king Solomon loved many strange women, together with the daughter of Pharaoh, women of the Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Zidonians, [and] Hittites; 1Ki 11:2 Of the nations [concerning] which the LORD said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall not go in to them, neither shall they come in unto you: [for] surely they will turn away your heart after their gods: Solomon clave unto these in love. 1Ki 11:3 And he had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines: and his wives turned away his heart. 1Ki 11:4 For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, [that] his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with the LORD his God, as [was] the heart of David his father. 1Ki 11:5 For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Zidonians, and after Milcom the abomination of the Ammonites...... Eze 16:3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto Jerusalem; Thy birth and thy nativity [is] of the land of Canaan; thy father [was] an Amorite, and thy mother an Hittite. http://www.blueletterbible.org/s...k.cfm?b=Jdg&c=3&v=6&t=KJV Jer 11:10 They are turned back to the iniquities of their forefathers, which refused to hear my words; and they went after other gods to serve them: the house of Israel and the house of Judah have broken my covenant which I made with their fathers....... Jer 11:13 For [according to] the number of thy cities were thy gods, O Judah; and [according to] the number of the streets of Jerusalem have ye set up altars to [that] shameful thing, [even] altars to burn incense unto Baal. http://www.blueletterbible.org/B...?b=Jer&c=11&v=10&t=KJV#10 http://www.blueletterbible.org/s...cfm?b=Jer&c=11&v=10&t=KJV
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#125. To: Old Friend (#122)
No, I'm talking about Genesis. In Hebrew it's quite clear, but in English (especially when translated by men who were quite determined to make the words say what they wanted them to say), it takes a bit more thought. You actually have to read the part that says, "in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them." You see, God is seen as both male AND female, where the highest manifestation of God in this Universe is Unity between them, where they have become One. Genesis 1:27 New American Standard Bible (©1995) GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995) King James Bible American King James Version American Standard Version Bible in Basic English Douay-Rheims Bible Darby Bible Translation English Revised Version Webster's Bible Translation World English Bible Young's Literal Translation Much of what Jesus and the Essenes taught is in conflict with the Old Testament as well, where the Essenes were extremely non-violent people who would never harm one of God's creatures. They were vegetarian in fact, and would not offer blood sacrifices. There are things beyond the book known as the Torah that speak of the true God. It is simply a matter of finding those sparks of truth amongst a swarm of deceipt. Makes sense.
I find it laughable that you didn't get past the first paragraph before you decided it was rubbish. I bet you never did well in literature did you. Let me ask you this. Do you think you know all about the Essenes?
Yeah lets just make up what Jesus said and we can all have our own customizable religion.
Actually I quoted from two other places that are in contraciction to the word. Go ahead believe what you want. No skin off my back.
Thanks. It's almost as if I was guided to the info I found just this past week concerning the Essenes. It simply reinforced what I already felt in my heart to be true.
Do you know the story of Paul? Did you know that he never met Jesus, and that he tried to have James (the brother of Jesus) killed?
Which word are you talking about?
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.
The word of God. You know the Bible. Quit predending.
Seems like you're guilty of that, eh Old Friend? You justify your lust for blood with your fables, and turn your back upon the truth.
Excellent stuff.
YOUR words made no sense. You keep relying upon a book to prove that the book is right and that it's the Word of God simply because those men who wrote it say it is. And you act as if ANY other source has to be lying, because that is what the book says. What a wonderfully evil way of keeping the gullible from looking for the truth, simply by telling them doing so will get them into trouble. Of course, back in the old days they'd simply torture you to death, burn you at the stake, annihilate your civilization, etc. if you didn't go along with what the Roman masters or Jewish kings ordered. Now, READ the facts presented in the article I posted. You can look up any reference or claim it makes, it is supported by fact.
Sorry, Old Friend, but I have to disagree with you. We are never told the Amalekites suffered eternally for their sin. In fact, Revelation 5 says there will be a multitude standing before God of every race, nation, kindred, family, people and tongue. God had his children among the Amalekites. Yes, God would punish his own children. How many Israelites did God strike down for gross abandonment of his word? I Corinthians 10 tells us many thousand. How many Israelites died when Israel and Judah fell? Many.
The rest of it (Bible) can be discarded, per Jesus' Parable of the Pearl. An interesting observation, considering how in error it is. Fully twenty-five percent of everything that Jesus ever said was a quotation from the Old Testament, including His two Great Commandments. When Jesus says, "you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and all your mind," he is quoting Deuteronomy 6:5. When He says, "and the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself, Jesus is quoting Leviticus 19:18. You also are in error by thinking that Jesus held the Old Testament in contempt. In fact, Matthew 5:17-18 makes it abundantly clear that Jesus came to fulfill the Law and the Prophets. Your claim that the Parable of the Pear supports your claim is dubious, at best. The pearl is the church -- the body of the Christ. The merchant is the lost soul who, having found the Christ, sells all that he owns to possess the kingdom of God. RO
I'm aware of that. That means that 75% wasn't. You also are in error by thinking that Jesus held the Old Testament in contempt. Maybe he didn't. I do. The pearl is the church -- the body of the Christ. The pearl represents whatever is of great value to its possessor. It's different things to all of us.
Sorry, Old Friend, but I have to disagree with you. We are never told the Amalekites suffered eternally for their sin. In fact, Revelation 5 says there will be a multitude standing before God of every race, nation, kindred, family, people and tongue. God had his children among the Amalekites. Yes, God would punish his own children. How many Israelites did God strike down for gross abandonment of his word? I Corinthians 10 tells us many thousand. How many Israelites died when Israel and Judah fell? Many. I actually wasn't commenting on the Amalekites eternal destination. Sorry I didn't word it right. With that said I'm not saying they are going to heaven or hell. But I would suspect the later.
which fable would that be?
Nice post. Nice to meet you.
Here is the substance of the NT. Everything else is pretty much historical reference. He repeatedly reminds them of why they were given "The Law" Mark 10: 1 And he arose from thence, and cometh into the coasts of Judaea by the farther side of Jordan: and the people resort unto him again; and, as he was wont, he taught them again. 2 And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him. 3 And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you? 4 And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away. 5 And Jesus answered and said unto them, FOR THE HARDNESS OF YOUR HEART HE WROTE YOU THIS PRECEPT. Matthew 19: 3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause? 4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, 5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? 6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. 7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? 8 He saith unto them, Moses BECAUSE OF THE HARDNESS OF YOUR HEARTS suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. And HE reminds them of what a person needs to do to meet all of the 10 Commandments. Matthew 22: 34 But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together. 35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, 36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. Don't think HE could make it more clear/obvious.
The men who wrote those words in the OT were projecting their own base and greedy desires onto "God".
gnostics and others believe the 'god' of the old testament was an archon, a being that posed as god, a 'system lord'. monroe writes of a creator being that created the earth as a type of farm for the harvesting of emotional energy. this ties in with blood sacrifice and war, in which great quantities of emotional energy are produced, and parallels black magic's sacrifice. as well, this 'god' demanded blood sacrifice from animals, and war, a ritualized sacrifice. put the pieces together, and it fits pretty well. the new testament is such a slap in the face of the ot doctrine of eye for eye, it can easily be seen that Christs mission was 'to set the captives free', in other words, to deny the archonic beings their energy source on the farm. forgiveness is the one single key which would make emotional energy farming obsolete. much of the jewish old testament is merely rehashed babylonian myth, noah, gigamesh, etc...and other parts are copied straight out of the egyptian book of the dead. religions are tools of control used by these archonic beings to manage the farm, in terms of allowing continued emotional energy harvesting. so Christ came to say there was no need for religion, that no intercessor was necessary, no franchise needed. that He called the jews a synagogue of satan was further proof in this direction, but hardly anyone wants to have the courage to doubt that ninety percent of the bible is engineered horseshit. captives....farm...etc.
if a people will not prosecute officials who subvert and violate the constitution, then the constitution has no authority over officials. Gengis Gandhi, Troubled Genius
They were obviously a threat to the christ who was to come. What about the cattle, sheep, camels and donkeys?
Perhaps God didn't want them to profit from it.
So your opinion is the Bible is a fraud?
You are under delusion.
thats what all fundamentalists say. fortunately for me, i pay them the same regard they pay ideas which do not conform to their rigid, unchanging belief systems. jehovah's witless, muslims, bible belters, its all the same. long on ritual, short on wisdom and insight. anyway, i wasnt talking to you, since i realize you are a fundamental patient.
if a people will not prosecute officials who subvert and violate the constitution, then the constitution has no authority over officials. Gengis Gandhi, Troubled Genius
That is a lie. Is it deliberate or an accident? He didn't call the Jews the synagogue of satan. He called a small sect that.
Tell that to the fossil record WHICH COULD ONLY BE CREATED BY A WORLDWIDE FLOOD! Fossils of sea creatures in the desert. Fossils of sea life in the highest mountains. You don't want the truth or you would know of that. Gilgamesh is obviously a tale that was passed down for generations after the flood and became distorted over time. It is significant that it does confirm that there was a flood as the Bible teaches.
if a people will not prosecute officials who subvert and violate the constitution, then the constitution has no authority over officials. Gengis Gandhi, Troubled Genius
Can't counter that argument huh. I guess that's the best you got.
The men who wrote those words in the OT were projecting their own base and greedy desires onto "God". Hi Diana! Long time no see....good to see you again. I was too tired after doing an errand last night to attack this, and it's going to take me quite a while to go through all this and still keep from crashing my computer. Your comment is one I have heard before, and is one I am currently mulling in my mind, but as much as I hate all the killing, I think we would be mistaken to believe that this was not part of God's plan. I woke up this morning thinking of what I think FormerLurker said, that God would not have his children kill his other children. However, they are not all His children....not all are called to be the children of God. Some are the children of the devil, and He alluded to this in Genesis 3:15. God intends to destroy the works of the devil, and He uses people to accomplish His plans. My computer is really dragging, and I am going to have to go and make some choices on my windows, but remember that Jesus Himself said He would have people kill other people: John 19:27 But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them - bring them here and kill them in front of me. Mat 21:40 When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen? 41 They say unto Him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out His vineyard to other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons. Mar 12:9 What shall therefore the lord of the vineyard do? he will come and destroy the husbandmen, and will give the vineyard unto others. I'm still trying to go through all this, and don't know if anyone has mentioned this or not.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
Yes, God knows all things, but he proclaimed thou shalt not kill, and then he says kill. Contradiction? It appears so. God also says he regrets making man in Genesis 6. But if he knew all things before he did them, then why did he make man at all if he knew he was going to regret it? I believe in God, but these contradictions in the Bible are troublesome.
God is always good!
Well I strongly do not believe this, at all. If this were the case, then to save the world just kill everybody as children and all would then go to heaven. Very bad logic. No, all who die young are not going to heaven. Why? Because God knows all who are his, he knew them before he created anyone. We don't know who are his, so we are commanded to spread the gospel to all, but God knew them before he created anything that we know about.
God is always good!
So with this same logic if the Nazis were trying to exterminate the "Jews", which I don't believe they were, then they might have been following God's orders to prevent greater evil in the future. We now know how evil they are indeed, so who knows?
God is always good!
I'm not sure. There are too many things in there that contradict, such as the commandment not to kill. I have a very hard time with a god who orders human beings to slaughter other humans, including children. I also find it strange that God would want all the animals killed too. How could the slaughtered people benefit from their livestock if they are dead? I really don't know, but the blood sacrifice always did seem unfair to me, as was mentioned in an earlier post, it makes no sense to kill an innocent creature to atone for the sins of a human, in my opinion that is a copout and an act of cowardice. If anything the man who sinned should shed some of his own blood, although that would be barbaric too. Repenting for his sins by making ammends and sincere apologies makes more sense.
It not only gave King Saul free reign to do as he wished, but it's been used by the Jews over several milennia to perpetrate whatever horrendous atrocity they wish against anyone seen as their foe. That might be right. To think that we have the original word of God is to think that Satan would in no way try to write it his way. Would God allow this? I think so. God's people can figure out what is from him and what is from Satan. Those deceived would have believed whatever they wanted to anyway.
God is always good!
cruel is what it is. i began a study of the OT years ago. i didn't get very far. it was a turn off because of the death and destruction stories. that, and to me, much of it read like someone's LSD trip or psychotic delusion.
The OT is about the Hebrew war god. Jesus overthrew him completely, using the term Abba to describe God, which translate as "Daddy." The OT should not be considered the word of God, but a history of the Jews. And there is no "Judeo-Christianity."
In politics there is no murder.
I think you are talking about in the greek. There is some kind of reference to that. It isn't saying that God is female though.
God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.
So God created humans in his image. In the image of God he created them. He created them male and female.
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
And God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
And God made man in his image, in the image of God he made him: male and female he made them.
And God created man to his own image: to the image of God he created him: male and female he created them.
And God created Man in his image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
And God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
God created man in his own image. In God's image he created him; male and female he created them.
And God prepareth the man in His image; in the image of God He prepared him, a male and a female He prepared them.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#126. To: FormerLurker (#111)
Well by believing the New Testament you are rejecting what Jesus actually said, as the NT is opposite what he taught. It was written by Paul and his Roman masters, after they had eradicated the Essene Nazarene Christians, ie. the order that the TRUE apostles belonged to, along with all of their writings.
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all
#127. To: Old Friend (#123)
I am done with your trash article.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#128. To: wudidiz, Former Lurker (#126)
Well by believing the New Testament you are rejecting what Jesus actually said,
#129. To: FormerLurker (#127)
I find it laughable that you didn't get past the first paragraph before you decided it was rubbish. I bet you never did well in literature did you.
#130. To: wudidiz (#126)
Makes sense.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#131. To: Old Friend (#128)
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Yeah lets just make up what Jesus said and we can all have our own customizable religion.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#132. To: Old Friend (#129)
Actually I quoted from two other places that are in contraciction to the word.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#133. To: FormerLurker (#130)
Thanks. It's almost as if I was guided to the info I found just this past week concerning the Essenes.
#134. To: FormerLurker (#132)
Which word are you talking about?
#135. To: Old Friend (#133)
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#136. To: FormerLurker, Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve, christine, Horse, noone222, scrapper2, IndieTX, gengis gandhi, Cynicom, lodwick, LACUMO, ALL (#113)
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all
#137. To: Old Friend (#134)
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The word of God. You know the Bible. Quit predending.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#138. To: Old Friend (#14)
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It is not hard at all. They were evil. Just like the people of today who don't want to hearken to Gods word. They will perish eternally.
#139. To: bluegrass (#10)
There's only one Truth from the Bible worth a crap: the two commandments of Jesus.
#140. To: ReallyOrnery (#139)
Fully twenty-five percent of everything that Jesus ever said was a quotation from the Old Testament
#141. To: echo5sierra (#138)
It is not hard at all. They were evil. Just like the people of today who don't want to hearken to Gods word. They will perish eternally.
#142. To: FormerLurker (#135)
You justify your lust for blood with your fables, and turn your back upon the truth.
#143. To: ReallyOrnery (#139)
#144. To: ReallyOrnery (#139)
#145. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)
God commanded Saul and the Israelites, “This is what the LORD Almighty says: 'I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'"
#146. To: wudidiz (#136)
#147. To: Old Friend, Former Lurker (#50)
God knows their hearts. God knows the world from end to beginning.
#148. To: Diana (#147)
What about the cattle, sheep, camels and donkeys?
#149. To: Diana (#145)
The men who wrote those words in the OT were projecting their own base and greedy desires onto "God".
#150. To: gengis gandhi (#146)
#151. To: Old Friend (#150)
#152. To: gengis gandhi (#146)
that He called the jews a synagogue of satan
#153. To: gengis gandhi (#146)
noah, gigamesh,
#154. To: Old Friend (#153)
#155. To: gengis gandhi (#154)
#156. To: Diana (#145)
God commanded Saul and the Israelites, “This is what the LORD Almighty says: 'I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'"
#157. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)
#158. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)
By ending their lives as children, God enabled them to have entrance into Heaven. We strongly believe that all children who die are accepted into Heaven by the grace and mercy of God (2 Samuel 12:22-23; Mark 10:14-15; Matthew 18:2-4).
#159. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)
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God did not order the extermination of these people to be cruel, but rather to prevent even greater evil from occurring in the future.
#160. To: Old Friend (#149)
So your opinion is the Bible is a fraud?
#161. To: FormerLurker (#11)
It's quite simple actually. The God that created this Universe and what lies beyond did NOT order Samuel to say that to King Saul. It was King Saul who WANTED to kill all the men, women, and children of Amalek, so he ordered his scribes to write that God ordered him to do it.
#162. To: gengis gandhi (#146)
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all
#163. To: Diana (#160)
I really don't know, but the blood sacrifice always did seem unfair to me, as was mentioned in an earlier post, it makes no sense to kill an innocent creature to atone for the sins of a human, in my opinion that is a copout and an act of cowardice.
#164. To: christine, diana (#163)
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