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Title: The John Murtha Jihadist Correctional Facility
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Published: Jan 23, 2009
Author: Michelle Malkin
Post Date: 2009-01-23 21:07:10 by Refinersfire
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Comments: 7
No matter what you think of the War or Guantanamo Bay, this article is spot on, when it comes to Rep. John Murtha.. Get this: King of Pork John Murtha, the 19-term Democratic congressman from western Pennsylvania, now wants to welcome a flood of Guantanamo Bay jihadists into his district. I don't want to hear a single word of protestation from the constituents who put this money-grubbing, security-undermining fool back into office. As you vote, so shall you reap. Murtha audaciously expressed his hope to house Gitmo detainees after President Barack Obama circulated his draft executive order to shut the facility down by the end of the year. "Sure, I'd take 'em," Murtha glibly retorted. "They're no more dangerous in my district than in Guantanamo." Murtha blustered that there was "no reason not to put 'em in prisons in the United States and handle them the way they would handle any other prisoners." Before we unpack all that ignorant nonsense, let us pause to illuminate Murtha's motives. He is driven neither by a warped sense of patriotic duty nor by misguided human rights compassion for al-Qaida foot soldiers. No, what fuels him is unabashed greed and a lifelong edifice complex. The money-grubbing Murtha, you see, just can't wait to snatch up federal tax dollars to build a new maximum security prison for the Gitmo gang -- no doubt with his name and face plastered all over it. Welcome to the John Murtha Jihadist Correctional Facility. Forget about the increased risk Murtha would subject his district to by volunteering it as a highly visible terror target. Forget about the disgusting affront this pork grab poses to the families of those who died on United Flight 93 -- which 9/11 terrorists crashed in Shanksville, Pa., represented by none other than Murtha at the time. There's a shining prison on a hill to be built, and Murtha will sell out his neighbors' safety to make sure it's built on his hill. Murtha's got logs to roll and wheels to grease. National security is an impediment, not an imperative. Would you expect anything less from the shameless politician caught on tape in the 1980s Abscam congressional bribery scandal mulling payoffs from FBI agents posing as Arab sheiks? ("How much money we talking about?" Murtha asked one of the bagmen. "You know, we do business for a while, maybe I'll be interested, maybe I won't.") Murtha's contempt for the people he serves should surprise no one. This is the man who called his own voters "rednecks" and who has refused to back down from his smears of the exonerated Marines who served in Haditha, Iraq, as "cold-blooded" murderers. This is the man who denies that we are combating al-Qaida terrorists in Iraq. This is the man who lives in a fantasy world where re-deploying American soldiers to Okinawa is a viable defense plan. Murtha can't see any reason for keeping Gitmo detainees from flooding our regular prisons and preventing them from exploiting our civilian court system, because he is willfully blind and stone stupid. John Murtha, meet Lynne Stewart. She's the disgraced lawyer convicted last year of abetting her terrorist client -- 1993 World Trade Center bombing/NY landmark bombing mastermind Omar Abdel-Rahman. Stewart helped smuggle coded messages of Islamic violence from the imprisoned sheik to outside followers in violation of an explicit pledge to abide by her client's court-ordered isolation. While Rahman's court-appointed translator conveyed the message during prison visits, Stewart made "covering noises," including shaking a water jar and tapping on the table. A draft fatwa was discovered in Stewart's office; she also signaled Rahman's wishes to his jihadist organization in an interview with Reuters news service. The publication of those comments ushered in a new wave of bombing attacks by Rahman's previously dormant terrorist outfit. The left-wing radical Stewart remains unrepentant and clings to her belief that the 9/11 terrorist attacks were an "armed struggle." Now, imagine a traitorous bleeding-heart Stewart assigned to each and every one of the 250-odd Gitmo detainees. Imagine the risk of similar jailhouse collaborations to innocent men, women and children at home and abroad. Imagine the three-ring, O.J.-like circuses these trials will bring to your backyards. It's easy if you try. Prosecuting suspected terrorists like petty thieves or drug dealers is fraught with peril. The Democrats have learned nothing from the failed law enforcement strategies of the feckless Clinton era. Confiscated al-Qaida training manuals have revealed that recruits are instructed in how to manipulate the Western legal system if they are captured. Affording accused al-Qaida operatives the Sixth Amendment right to a public trial threatens to compromise classified information necessary to prosecute future terrorist trials. Other rights guaranteed by the Sixth Amendment -- the right to subpoena witnesses and compel them to testify, the right to an attorney -- can interfere with interrogations of captured suspected al-Qaida agents. And while the lives of those directly involved in, say, a mob trial might be endangered, the entire nation may be at risk if we allow suspected members of a terrorist network to engage in the discovery process and in privileged communications with attorney-abettors. Who will be accountable when these prosecutions run amok? When convicted jihadists wreak bloody havoc from behind bars? And when Gitmo recidivists wage war anew once released? John Murtha doesn't give a hoot. Do you?
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#1. To: Refinersfire (#0)
Murtha made some kind of remark about the citizens in his area not being too smart or were rednecks, something like that. Seems like he should know his own kind.
Regardless of any particular details or hoo-hah anyone wants to throw up in the process of creating a smokescreen or feigning outrage, this whole issue boils down to one simple question: Do you believe in rule of law or not? If you do believe in the concept of rule of law, then you should find the idea of indefinite detention without charges, rescinding habeas corpus, and using torture to be utterly and completely abhorrent. If you don't believe in rule of law, then don't complain when the almighty state finds reason to turn its merciless attentions on you someday. The prisoners in Gitmo and anywhere else on this planet who are being held by US officials in any kind of detention whatsoever, regardless of the charges, are entitled to face their accuser, defend themselves against the charges presented, have counsel to help with their defense, and not have to worry about being tortured. Furthermore they have a right to a trial by jury, and to have that trial be held in a timely manner. Period. Empires that detain people indefinitely, without formal charges, without allowing the accused to face their accuser, that deny the right to defend themselves against those charges, that deny counsel for the accused and deny trial by jury and that use torture to extract confessions are, by definition, evil totalitarian nightmare regimes. End of discussion. Anyone who attempts to defend such actions is defending the indefensible.
#2. To: Refinersfire (#0)
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#3. To: Cynicom (#1)
Murtha wins because of back door politics.. I have Family that live there.. he is scum, but finding someone that has the backing to run against him, in a real manner, is damn near next to never happening.. he is in the same boat as Ten Kennedy, as far as I am concerned..
#4. To: Elliott Jackalope (#2)
Not the end of Discussion.. Rep. Murtha's plan would not give them their rights.. as in his mind, the jail would be nothing more then a cash cow.. study this man's History.. Releasing those now held in GB (transfered to John Murtha Jihadist Correctional Facility), would decrease the Federal Funding, and in turn, close the jail after a short period.. His buddies would be left with a small time gain, not the large one's they are used to.. and they would remember that, come re-election time.. So he would behind the curtain, work to keep them there.. What needs to happen to those in GB, is that they need to be sent to Allenwood Fed Pen, and then to either Philadelphia or New York for a Fair Trail..
End of discussion.
#5. To: Refinersfire (#4) (Edited)
If Murtha's plan is simply to recreate Gitmo here in the US, then yes, I agree that is indefensible. As you said, the prisoners at held at Gitmo and anywhere else by US authorities should be transferred to Allenwood or other Federal detention facilities, and then tried as soon as possible. You do realize there are people who have been held at Gitmo for several years now without having any charges filed against them whatsover, right? I do hope you find that as utterly reprehensible and abhorrent as I do. Because today it's "terrorists", tomorrow it could be "dissidents", and after that it could end up being anyone unfortunate enough to simply be in the wrong place at the wrong time who ends up being incarcerated for years and years, without charges, without counsel, without being able to face their accusers or have a trial by jury, and who may even be subject to torture. Without counsel. Without recourse. Without help or hope of any kind. See, when I was growing up, this is what I was taught that the bad guys do. Not us. Not the United States of America. My God, is it actually possible to calculate the horrific damage done to this country by the Bush administration? Are there words desperate enough, numbers large enough or concepts horrifying enough to actually communicate the utterly heinous, mind-boggling, gut wrenching and soul- destroying degree of loathsomeness his vile administration inflicted upon this country?
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#6. To: Elliott Jackalope (#5)
A very intelligent take on what could happen to anyone of us or all of us. I cannot get over the fact that the terrorists that pulled off 9-11 are also the torturers and they just finished up 8 years of control over this nation. Please pray for justice for these terrorists/torturers that have so damaged America.
I do hope you find that as utterly reprehensible and abhorrent as I do. Because today it's "terrorists", tomorrow it could be "dissidents", and after that it could end up being anyone unfortunate enough to simply be in the wrong place at the wrong time who ends up being incarcerated for years and years, without charges, without counsel, without being able to face their accusers or have a trial by jury, and who may even be subject to torture. Without counsel. Without recourse. Without help or hope of any kind. See, when I was growing up, this is what I was taught that the bad guys do. Not us. Not the United States of America.
#7. To: Elliott Jackalope (#5)
You are 100% correct.. that is also why I have strong distaste for Murtha, he is looking to pad his wallet, along with his "friends" wallets, on this issue.. Not right a wrong..
I do hope you find that as utterly reprehensible and abhorrent as I do. Because today it's "terrorists", tomorrow it could be "dissidents", and after that it could end up being anyone unfortunate enough to simply be in the wrong place at the wrong time who ends up being incarcerated for years and years, without charges, without counsel, without being able to face their accusers or have a trial by jury, and who may even be subject to torture. Without counsel. Without recourse. Without help or hope of any kind. See, when I was growing up, this is what I was taught that the bad guys do. Not us. Not the United States of America.
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