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Title: Disgraced pastor faces more gay sex accusations
Source: AP
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090124 ... re/rel_haggard_new_allegations
Published: Jan 24, 2009
Author: ERIC GORSKI
Post Date: 2009-01-24 00:34:05 by bush_is_a_moonie
Keywords: None
Views: 732
Comments: 12

Disgraced evangelical leader Ted Haggard's former church disclosed Friday that the gay sex scandal that caused his downfall extends to a young male church volunteer who reported having a sexual relationship with Haggard — a revelation that comes as Haggard tries to repair his public image.

Brady Boyd, who succeeded Haggard as senior pastor of the 10,000-member New Life Church in Colorado Springs, told The Associated Press that the man came forward to church officials in late 2006 shortly after a Denver male prostitute claimed to have had a three-year cash-for-sex relationship with Haggard.

Boyd said an "overwhelming pool of evidence" pointed to an "inappropriate, consensual sexual relationship" that "went on for a long period of time ... it wasn't a one-time act." Boyd said the man was in his early 20s at the time. He said he was certain the man was of legal age when it began.

Reached Friday night, Haggard declined to comment and said all interviews would have to be arranged through a publicist for HBO, which is airing a documentary about him this month.

Boyd said the church reached a legal settlement to pay the man for counseling and college tuition, with one condition being that none of the parties involved discuss the matter publicly.

Boyd said a Colorado Springs TV station reached him Thursday to say the young man was planning to provide a detailed report of his relationship with Haggard to the station. Boyd said the church preferred to keep the matter private, but it was the man's decision to go public.

The disclosure comes as Haggard, 52, is about to give a series of high-profile interviews to promote the cable documentary about his time in exile. He is scheduled to appear on CNN's Larry King Live on Thursday, the date of the documentary's premiere, and already has taped "The Oprah Winfrey Show."

In early 2007, New Life Church disclosed that an investigation uncovered new evidence that Haggard engaged in "sordid conversation" and "improper relationships" — but didn't go into detail. Earlier, a church board member had said there was no evidence that Haggard had sexual relations with anyone but Mike Jones, the former male prostitute.

Haggard confessed to undisclosed "sexual immorality" after Jones' allegations and resigned as president of the National Association of Evangelicals and from New Life Church, where he faced being fired.

Anticipating criticism of the settlement with the former church volunteer, Boyd said Friday that it was in the best interests of all involved. He would not name the volunteer or the settlement amount.

"It wasn't at all a settlement to make him be quiet or not tell his story," Boyd said. "Our desire was to help him. Here was a young man who wanted to get on with his life. We considered it more compassionate assistance — certainly not hush money. I know what's what everyone will want to say because that's the most salacious thing to say, but that's not at all what it was."

He said that "secondarily, it's not great for our church either" that the story be told. Boyd said Haggard knew about the settlement two years ago.

In a letter e-mailed Friday to New Life Church members, Boyd said of the settlement and agreement not to talk: "This decision was made not as an attempt to conceal wrongdoings, but to protect him from those who would seek to exploit him. His actions now suggest that he has changed his mind."

The letter said the church "received reports of a number of incidents of inappropriate behavior" after Haggard's fall. "In each case, we have tried our very best to do the right thing each time, including disciplinary action when appropriate."

Boyd said the "inappropriate behavior" referred to the man who was the volunteer involved with Haggard. After Haggard's fall, another church staff member resigned after admitting to what was described as "sexual misconduct."

Boyd said the church will not take action against the man if he tells his story in the press.

"We have legal standing to do that, but not the desire to," he said.

Boyd said he had spoken to the man once and came away with the impression that he was speaking out because of the documentary. "I think what caused this young man to be a bit aggravated was Ted being seen as a victim, when he himself had experienced a great deal of hurt," Boyd said. "I seriously doubt this man would have come forward if the documentary had not been made."

A spokeswoman for the documentary, "The Trials of Ted Haggard," declined to comment Friday.

David Clohessy, national director of SNAP, the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests — which has largely focused on the Catholic sexual abuse scandal but also speaks out on cases involving Protestant clergy — said the new disclosures about Haggard are more disturbing because they involves a church volunteer.

"Technically, legally, they were both adults," Clohessy said. "Psychologically and emotionally, Haggard was dramatically more powerful. ... By definition, any sexual contact between a congregant and minister is inherently abusive and manipulative."

In an AP interview this month before an appearance in front of TV critics in California, Haggard described his sexuality as complex and something that can't be put into "stereotypical boxes."

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#1. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)

Twice the sons of hell...

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-01-24   2:38:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)

In an AP interview this month before an appearance in front of TV critics in California, Haggard described his sexuality as complex and something that can't be put into "stereotypical boxes."

Just as I thought. His sexuality is complex and probably remains so. Why doesn't he just become a pastor at an openly gay church where he can pick and chose willing members for his gay trists? There would be less chance of making new victims outta those who already prefer gay sex and lifestyles.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-01-24   5:09:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)

Meth and man ass....ummm!

In politics there is no murder.

Turtle  posted on  2009-01-24   7:17:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: LACUMO (#2)

Just as I thought. His sexuality is complex and probably remains so. Why doesn't he just become a pastor at an openly gay church where he can pick and chose willing members for his gay trists? There would be less chance of making new victims outta those who already prefer gay sex and lifestyles.

The forbidden fruit is what makes it so exciting for him and other "conservatives" who are outed on a regular basis these days.

As Al Goldstein (former SCREW MAGAZINE publisher and now homeless panhandler) said, "They like to screw in the dark then feel guilty about it".

We laugh when we hear the old joke, "Is sex dirty? If you're doing it right it is!" But for confused people like Ted Haggard sex is a form of rebellion against strict religious teachings based on guilt, and if it was suddenly acceptable to "dew it" he and others would lose their ability to become aroused without the taboo.

My wife's cousin is obviously gay as he approaches 40 yrs old, and for a while this dedicated Catholic altar boy was planning on entering the priesthood. Then the Holy See announced that they don't want any more gays entering the priesthood, either seeking sanctuary or to help these struggling gays "get right with the Lord". Suddenly "cuz" isn't going to be a priest anymore.

Now, why doesn't he just admit what everyone knows but won't say?

BECAUSE his secret feelings of persecution are half the fun and stimulation, that's why. I mean The Catholic Church is the largest sex/gay/pedophile cult in the world. And, I question the true motives of all who make The Church the center of their lives. I'd certainly give the now deceased Mother Teresa the benefit of any doubt because she seemed to walk the walk and to be a true, dedicated, selfless spirit.

But, I'm betting that fewer than one percent of the priesthood, laity and members are sincere and have no dirty little secrets to keep about their beloved Church. Hell, my wife's real grandfather was a priest. Everyone knows it but my mother-in-law would die if anyone admitted it in front of her. Her father was a priest who seduced a homely teenage Catholic girl and the Church, the community and the family all hushed it up and further enabled this worldwide sex cult.

Some folks are stimulated when bound with leather and iron, and some prefer the binding that only a guilt-based religious upbringing can drum into them....and their respective churches provide institutional hypocrisy as a sexual stimulant for millions today.

But, if you wander into an Irish/Polish/Italian-Catholic bar and ask how many of the guys there were diddled as children you'd probably get beaten up. "Hey fellas, dis guy is dissing Fadda Murphy (or Fadda Guido)-oh, wait. Did I SAY THAT? I mean dissing The Mother Church!" (heh heh)

Before going to confession little Johnny wanted some idea of what to expect as penance for his sin, so he asked a friend. The friend turned to another boy and says, "Hey Toby, what does Father Pascal give for oral sex?"

"Two chocolate bars!" was the reply.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-01-24   7:56:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Turtle (#3)

Meth and man ass....ummm!

You seem like a man of experience!

(just kidding. Turtle gave that stuff up weeks ago!)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-01-24   7:58:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: HOUNDDAWG (#4)

And, I question the true motives of all who make The Church the center of their lives.

I question the sexuality of anyone who is obsessively religious. There are some poeple at this site whom I suspect of unpleasant things...

In politics there is no murder.

Turtle  posted on  2009-01-24   8:02:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: HOUNDDAWG (#5)

man of experience!

Turtle, American Gigolo.

Women only.

In politics there is no murder.

Turtle  posted on  2009-01-24   8:03:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Turtle (#7)

Turtle, American Gigolo.

Women only.

We Southerners have a saying: "A quick denial is a shore sign of guilt!" Photobucket

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-01-24   8:07:20 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: HOUNDDAWG (#8)

Turtle's theme song.

In politics there is no murder.

Turtle  posted on  2009-01-24   8:16:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Turtle (#9)

I came to despise those Italian crooners when I was in the biz. (Louis Prima most of all)

The club in North Hollywood where I worked had regular visits from Jimmy Luisi (the ROCKFORD FILES and other TV shows) and he always sang SAN FRANCISCO.

The restaurant where I occasionally play now has the absolute worst of all-an 88 yr old who thinks he's Mario Lanza, and "Frankie" won't sit down until he's finished the same entire set of off key songs that no one wants to hear. And, you can't insult the bastard! Believe me, I've tried!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-01-24   8:28:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: HOUNDDAWG (#10)

Next time he starts just step outside and use your cell phone to call the humane society. Tell them that you and some of the others in the neighborhood keeping hearing this horrible howling from within the restaurant and you want them to go there and make sure they are not butchering dogs for the food because that is the only way a dog could make such a horrible, chilling sound. Tell them to hurry.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2009-01-24   12:09:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#11)

Next time he starts just step outside and use your cell phone to call the humane society. Tell them that you and some of the others in the neighborhood keeping hearing this horrible howling from within the restaurant and you want them to go there and make sure they are not butchering dogs for the food because that is the only way a dog could make such a horrible, chilling sound. Tell them to hurry.

Funny!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-01-25   0:35:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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