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Title: * News * World news * President orders air strikes on villages in tribal area (Pakistan)
Source: Guardian UK
URL Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/200 ... kistan-barack-obama-air-strike
Published: Jan 24, 2009
Author: Ewen MacAskill
Post Date: 2009-01-24 10:47:40 by bush_is_a_moonie
Keywords: None
Views: 660
Comments: 43

* News * World news * Pakistan

President orders air strikes on villages in tribal area

* Ewen MacAskill in Washington * The Guardian, Saturday 24 January 2009 * Article history

Barack Obama gave the go-ahead for his first military action yesterday, missile strikes against suspected militants in Pakistan which killed at least 18 people.

Four days after assuming the presidency, he was consulted by US commanders before they launched the two attacks. Although Obama has abandoned many of the "war on terror" policies of George Bush while he was president, he is not retreating from the hunt for Osama bin Laden and other al-Qaida leaders.

The US believes they are hiding in the tribal areas along the border with Afghanistan, and made 30 strikes last year in which more than 200 people were killed. In the election, Obama hinted at increased operations in Pakistan, saying he thought Bush had made a mistake in switching to Iraq before completing the job against al-Qaida in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

The US marine corp commander said yesterday that his 22,000 troops should be redeployed from Iraq to Afghanistan. Gen James Conway said "the time is right" to leave Iraq now the war had become largely nation-building rather than the pitched fighting in which the corps excelled; he wanted the marines in Afghanistan, especially in the south where insurgents, and the Taliban and al-Qaida, benefit from both a nearby safe haven in Pakistan and a booming trade in narcotics.

Obama has warned that he is prepared to bomb inside Pakistan if he gets relevant intelligence about the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden. He had also said he would act against militants along the border if the Pakistan government failed to.

The US missiles were fired by unmanned Predator drones, which hang in the sky gathering intelligence through surveillance and, when commanded and directed by remote control, to launch attacks.

The strikes will help Obama portray himself as a leader who, though ready to shift the balance of American power towards diplomacy, is not afraid of military action.

The first attack yesterday was on the village of Zharki, in Waziristan; three missiles destroyed two houses and killed 10 people. One villager told Reuters of phonethat of nine bodies pulled from the rubble of one house, six were its owner and his relatives; Reuters added that intelligence officials said some foreign militants were also killed. A second attack hours later also in Warizistan killed eight people.

The Pakistan government publicly expressed hope that the arrival of Obama would see a halt to such strikes, which stir up hostility from Pakistanis towards the government; in private, the government may be more relaxed about such attacks.

There is a lot of nervousness in the new administration about the fragility of Pakistan, particularly as it has nuclear weapons, but it also sees Afghanistan and Pakistan as being linked. In the face of a Taliban resurgence, there is despair in Washington over the leadership of the Afghan leader, Hamid Karzai, and there will not be much disappointment if he is replaced in elections later this year.

But Washington insists on seeing as one of its biggest problems the ability of the Taliban and al-Qaida to maintain havens in Pakistan. Obama on Thursday announced he was making veteran diplomat Richard Holbrooke a special envoy to Pakistan and Afghanistan. The secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, spoke by phone to the Pakistan president, Asif Ali Zardari. (1 image)

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#1. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)

Barack Obama gave the go-ahead for his first military action yesterday, missile strikes against suspected militants in Pakistan which killed at least 18 people.

Four days after assuming the presidency, he was consulted by US commanders before they launched the two attacks. Although Obama has abandoned many of the "war on terror" policies of George Bush while he was president, he is not retreating from the hunt for Osama bin Laden and other al-Qaida leaders.

just one smooth transition from one murderer to the next....

christine  posted on  2009-01-24   10:52:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)

The strikes will help Obama portray himself as a leader

Oh. If we make him wear chaps it would help portray him as a bull rider too.

"Where once a tyrant had to wish that his subjects had but one common neck that he might strangle them all at once, all he has to do now is to 'educate the people' so that they will have but one common mind to delude." -- Richard Mitchell (1929-2002) Professor at Glassboro State College, NJ, author, founder and publisher of The Underground Grammarian Source: The Underground Grammarian

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2009-01-24   10:55:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: OliviaFNewton (#2)

The strikes will help Obama portray himself as a leader

is that one of the most assinine statements you've ever heard? no, it helps to portray him as an imperialistic murderer like his predecessor.

christine  posted on  2009-01-24   10:57:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine (#3)

is that one of the most assinine statements you've ever heard? no, it helps to portray him as an imperialistic murderer like his predecessor.

It is, and it does.

What's scary is now we're messing with nuke'd up nation.

I better get my duct tape out again.

"Where once a tyrant had to wish that his subjects had but one common neck that he might strangle them all at once, all he has to do now is to 'educate the people' so that they will have but one common mind to delude." -- Richard Mitchell (1929-2002) Professor at Glassboro State College, NJ, author, founder and publisher of The Underground Grammarian Source: The Underground Grammarian

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2009-01-24   11:02:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: OliviaFNewton, christine (#4)

Coffin express from Kabul now arriving gate 13....Paging President Obama.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-24   11:26:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: christine, bush_is_a_moonie, all (#0) (Edited)

* News * World news * Pakistan President orders air strikes on villages in tribal area

Christine,

There is nothing written about the Pakistani president in this article other than the fact the Clinton talked to him on the phone.

It's Obama that's doing the bombing here. Let's be clear. Someone needs to fix this headline.

moonie, why did you insert the word "Pakistan" into the headline? It's hard to imagine that you did so accidentally either by typing it in or by insert/paste.

I think it's a good idea to stay with the rules in so far as titles go. I can go along with "My Title" at the head of a post. Meddling with the article title however in this way misrepresents what the author had to say and screws up the context of the article as you're reading it. The original title is "President orders air strikes on villages in tribal area."

Why in the hell would you want to put the onus on Asif Ali Zardari when it was Obama and our predators that did this bombing?

I don't know what others think. The title ought to be changed.

randge  posted on  2009-01-24   11:48:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)

Turtle says: bin Laden is dead, you peckerheads!

In politics there is no murder.

Turtle  posted on  2009-01-24   12:05:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)

NWO Central to Predator Drones: There are 6 billion "useless eaters" lurking on the planet. Ready, Aim, Fire.

How long will it take the Predators to be turned on the "Homeland" or maybe they already have been? There are not a whole lot of caves around here for me to take cover in.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-01-24   12:10:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: randge, bush_is_a_moonie (#6)

i think moonie meant to put astericks around Pakistan to delineate where. i edited, making it clearer, by placing Pakistan in parentheses at the end.

christine  posted on  2009-01-24   12:21:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: christine, moonie (#9)

I can see now how that happened from looking at the head of moonie's post.

Sorry, moonie, for hammering you.

randge  posted on  2009-01-24   12:31:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: bush_is_a_moonie, farmfriend (#0) (Edited)

The only change we have is a simian who is so primitive, that he flaunts his hard-on in front of the camera in videos.

I JUST MADE MY FIRST CALL TO A FOREIGN LEADER!! RESPECT ME! I just officially killed my first Pakistanis. See how much power I have?
There's a new alpha male in town.

Such is the primitive power of simian genes. Chimp had them too, but he didn't allow racist prayers and smirk at the good parts, nor did he flaunt hard-ons for the camera.

The strikes will help Obama portray himself as a leader who, though ready to shift the balance of American power towards diplomacy, is not afraid of military action.

DOUBLE-TALK, NEWSPEAK

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IndieTX  posted on  2009-01-24   13:06:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)

The strikes will help Obama portray himself as a leader who, though ready to shift the balance of American power towards diplomacy, is not afraid of military action.

He's the one the world has been waiting for. Except those killed by his authorized attack in Pakistan. They weren't waiting for him. I wasn't waiting for him either. I hope I am not next.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-01-24   14:11:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: IndieTX (#11)

I think Obummer should whack a few Indians also, just in case they try to get upitty.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-24   14:28:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Cynicom (#13)

Are yew talkin' about Hopis or Hindoos?

randge  posted on  2009-01-24   14:50:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)

Barack Obama gave the go-ahead for his first military action yesterday, missile strikes against suspected militants in Pakistan which killed at least 18 people.

The Os will justify or ignore it.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-01-24   14:54:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: randge (#14)

Hindooers.

You notice neither Bush nor Obama has dared lob a few missiles across the border into China???

Wonder how come?

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-24   14:54:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Jethro Tull (#15)

The Os will justify or ignore it.

Hey...

Every President is entitled to a war. Would you deny Obummer a war with, say, China????

I think we should urge him to teach those uppity Chinks a lesson or two.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-24   14:57:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Cynicom (#16)

That would be striking a match to get a look at the bottom of the fuel drum.

It's a lot more fun to pick on the shrimps.

randge  posted on  2009-01-24   15:04:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Cynicom (#17)

Every President is entitled to a war. Would you deny Obummer a war with, say, China????

No, I want Him to charge full bore into the yellow hordes using the children of the Os as cannon fodder. I know where a few strapping young men live, and it's time they get of mamma's sofa and into battle.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-01-24   15:07:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Jethro Tull (#19)

No, I want Him to charge full bore into the yellow hordes

Be patient, they will be a coming. Just remember Korea, hundreds of thousands of them, blowing bugles and charging during daylight.

China can walk to war, they have millions of expendable men and lots of rice.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-24   15:13:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: randge, Jethro Tull (#18)

I had a much older friend that served on the Panay in China during the 1930s. From him I learned about the Chinese, what one is never taught in college.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-24   15:19:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)

Barak Bin Laden

Osama Obama

Barak Osama

First thing you know we'll be talk'en bout real terrorists.

real-debt-elimination

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2009-01-24   16:29:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)

Obama's just trying to show his masters that he'll be a good little doggie.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-01-24   16:34:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Cynicom (#21)

I had a much older friend that served on the Panay in China during the 1930s. From him I learned about the Chinese, what one is never taught in college.

If you have the time, could you impart what he taught you?

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-01-24   16:35:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Cynicom, bluegrass (#21)

Yeah, give us the dope, Cyni.

I you were gonna write a little essay on what they don't teach grad school orientalists, what would the thesis be?

randge  posted on  2009-01-24   18:30:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: bluegrass, randge (#24)

If you have the time, could you impart what he taught you?

Well, some will have to be on PM.

He spoke several languages fluently, was thrown out of Naval Academy, my type of guy.

Many people lived on the river, born there, lived there and died there. The most gross he told me of was watching the Mother cooking supper or whatever, stop long enough to give birth and if it was a girl, throw it overboard, go back to doing her chores. The human degradation was beyond his comprehension.

There was only the elite society that had any order, all of the rest was survival.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-24   18:40:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: randge (#6)

Quit whinning. When I copied the headline it pulled the line above it with it. Do you ever do anything but cry like a little baby about everything?

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2009-01-24   20:20:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: randge (#10)

No problem. Sometimes when I copy and paste I don't notice that it pick up other parts of the page.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2009-01-24   20:22:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Cynicom (#26)

The most gross he told me of was watching the Mother cooking supper or whatever, stop long enough to give birth and if it was a girl, throw it overboard, go back to doing her chores.

are the chinese still by law only allowed one child per family?

christine  posted on  2009-01-24   20:25:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#27) (Edited)

Cheers.

randge  posted on  2009-01-24   20:36:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#28)

Obama and the Coming Darkness

real-debt-elimination

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2009-01-24   20:42:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: christine (#29)

are the chinese still by law only allowed one child per family?

just keep that opium pipe flowing, eh?

The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer

Dakmar  posted on  2009-01-24   20:45:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#31)

read. thanks.

christine  posted on  2009-01-24   21:05:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Dakmar (#32)

monkey abuse!

christine  posted on  2009-01-24   21:07:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: christine (#1)

just one smooth transition from one murderer to the next.

You are correct. OB had to show he's as nuts as the rest of them in support of the MIC.

Now we have even more "terrorists" for the MIC to fight in the future.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-01-24   21:07:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: christine (#3)

The strikes will help Obama portray himself as a leader

"is that one of the most assinine statements you've ever heard? "

Yes it certainly is. And the fact that it is not recognized as such and torn to the miserable shreds that it deserves by the watchdog media is telling of the sorry state of the information the US receives.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-01-24   21:11:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: tom007, christine, bluegrass, scrapper2, FerretMike, Jethro Tull (#36)

Where is that ferret guy? What's he think of all of this?

Lady X  posted on  2009-01-24   21:54:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Lady X (#37)

Where is that ferret guy?

Obummer is sending 30,000 more grunts to Afghan, I assume Mike, Vast and angle have already volunteered.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-24   21:57:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Lady X (#37)

He don't show.

He rightly fears the monkey abuse.

randge  posted on  2009-01-24   21:59:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Cynicom (#38)

Volunteering is the only honorable thing they can do now..

Lady X  posted on  2009-01-24   22:00:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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