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Title: MSNBC Challenge To Rush Limbaugh
Source: Libertysflame.com
URL Source: http://www.libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=4810
Published: Jan 26, 2009
Author: A K A Stone
Post Date: 2009-01-26 12:35:54 by Old Friend
Keywords: None
Views: 1639
Comments: 68

Rush Limbaugh has been challenged by MSNBC. The fellow they had on said that Rush and Sarah Palin aren't being straight forward with the American people when they challenge Obama on being a socialist. The argument goes like this. Rush Limbaugh has said that he doesn't want Obama to succeed because that would be socialism winning. That as a conservative he isn't for socialism. Rush has asked on his show for people to show him anywhere in the world that socialism has worked. The MSNBC guy says that in fact socialism is everywhere in governments throughout the world. He uses the example of Medicare being socialism, and says that it works. His challenge to Rush Limbaugh is to address his listeners telling them that medicare is socialist and should be eliminated. Do you think Rush willtake up the MSNBC challenge?

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#1. To: Old Friend (#0)

Every single person with a SOCIAL SECURITY (blanket) CARD in their pocket is a CARD CARRYING SOCIALIST.

noone222  posted on  2009-01-26   12:38:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Every single person with a SOCIAL SECURITY (blanket) CARD in their pocket is a CARD CARRYING SOCIALIST.

~ being born into socialism, programmed with it from birth and then being held within it by the threat of death, or worse, hell on Earth, 'does not' make one a socialist ~ (imo)

Amandil  posted on  2009-01-26   14:38:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

~ being born into socialism, programmed with it from birth and then being held within it by the threat of death, or worse, hell on Earth, 'does not' make one a socialist ~ (imo)

You are entitled to your (imo) opinion.

The question being is one a shit-eater if one is forced to eat a shit sandwich at gun point ?

The pressure employed doesn't change the act. You may feel like a coerced socialist ... but you're still a socialist.

Further, when we are continually admonished that ignorance of the law is no excuse ... we should investigate the law and set things right.

noone222  posted on  2009-01-26   14:45:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

~ being born into socialism, programmed with it from birth and then being held within it by the threat of death, or worse, hell on Earth, 'does not' make one a socialist ~ (imo)

You are entitled to your (imo) opinion. Is one a shit-eater if one is forced to eat a shit sandwich at gun point ?

No, because it is an involuntary act enforced at gun point.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-01-26   14:55:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

~ being born into socialism, programmed with it from birth and then being held within it by the threat of death, or worse, hell on Earth, 'does not' make one a socialist ~ (imo)

You are entitled to your (imo) opinion. Is one a shit-eater if one is forced to eat a shit sandwich at gun point ?

No, because it is an involuntary act enforced at gun point.

~ that is my point, this was programmed into us and we are held at gun point, now ifin I was here defending it all and asking for more, then I would consider myself one a them ... quitting the system now would only add one more homeless person to the rolls and another 'person of interest' for the boys with their toys, wouldn't do me or any of you any good at all

Amandil  posted on  2009-01-26   15:08:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

~ being born into socialism, programmed with it from birth and then being held within it by the threat of death, or worse, hell on Earth, 'does not' make one a socialist ~ (imo)

You are entitled to your (imo) opinion. Is one a shit-eater if one is forced to eat a shit sandwich at gun point ?

No, because it is an involuntary act enforced at gun point.

~ that is my point, this was programmed into us and we are held at gun point, now ifin I was here defending it all and asking for more, then I would consider myself one a them ... quitting the system now would only add one more homeless person to the rolls and another 'person of interest' for the boys with their toys, wouldn't do me or any of you any good at all

Were Social Security a voluntary association it would be another matter, but as you rightly point out it IS NOT voluntary and a contract has been made with those who have contributed. Neither am I a big fan of "Pyrrhic Victories".

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-01-26   15:12:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

but as you rightly point out it IS NOT voluntary and a contract has been made with those who have contributed.

It is voluntary, as are ALL CONTRACTS !

Every effort is made to pursuade us that it's mandatory through the ignorance of employers that have a corporate agreement that THEY are obligated to, and so many other contrivances such as bank accounts and credit cards etc., but all of them are voluntary.

When you admit that you may wind up homeless what you're really saying is that you depend upon them and their fraud to survive.

noone222  posted on  2009-01-26   15:19:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

When you admit that you may wind up homeless what you're really saying is that you depend upon them and their fraud to survive.

~ your fun .... ever been homeless? ever tell a prospective employer "No, I will not sign your w-4 form? tell the drivers license folks to shoove their request for your ssn too? tell a school system "No, my child dose not have an ssn?" hospitals now days will not allow you to take your child home till they are registered with one, they'll call the cops, or child services if you refuse ... yes, that is all very wrong ~ kinda wish some of you would direct your anger at 'them' and not the saps waking up to this hellish reality, doing their level best to live in it ~

Amandil  posted on  2009-01-26   15:35:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

~ your fun .... ever been homeless? ever tell a prospective employer "No, I will not sign your w-4 form? tell the drivers license folks to shoove their request for your ssn too? tell a school system "No, my child dose not have an ssn?" hospitals now days will not allow you to take your child home till they are registered with one, they'll call the cops, or child services if you refuse ... yes, that is all very wrong ~ kinda wish some of you would direct your anger at 'them' and not the saps waking up to this hellish reality, doing their level best to live in it ~

I have never been homeless, yet. I work without a SSN, and I will never sign a w-2or w-4. I have no driver license. I have no SSN. I never had to tell the school that because I wasn't aware at the time. If I had to do it again I would.

If I were having a child at a hospital these days, I simply wouldn't name it at the hospital. I'd be undecided. No law against not naming the kid at the hospital. No name ... no way to attach a SSN. Most people want the tax deduction, and that's why they stamp their kids with a slave number. (I did it too, and I am sorry).

Finally, one of my best friends has two boys that are hemophiliacs. Their "factor" (clotting factor) would cost her at least $200,000.00 (I think it's actually closer to $500,000.00) per year. She could never obtain it without government assistance. She has no choice, but that doesn't mean she isn't a socialist because she is.

I do have empathy for everyone of us that have been fucked royal by the criminals that have taken over the government. And I would offer that our grand parents and parents have done this to us through their apathy and gullibility. Still, my parents and grand parents are dead. They can't help me undo what they've done. We all need to help each other undo this horseshit.

I'm the first to admit that I'm more stubborn than the next guy. Everyone doesn't have the intestinal fortitude to shake their middle finger at Uncle Sambo.

The one thing they can do is ADMIT THE TRUTH, ALL THE TIME, TO EVERYONE IN THEIR SPHERE OF INFLUENCE ... and that is that WE ARE SOCIALISTS. It has been imposed upon us through the fraud perpetrated upon our parents and grandparents when the government was thought to be honest.

Those days are LONG GONE !

noone222  posted on  2009-01-26   15:55:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I have never been homeless, yet. I work without a SSN, and I will never sign a w-2or w-4. I have no driver license. I have no SSN. I never had to tell the school that because I wasn't aware at the time. If I had to do it again I would.

I understand your point. We are all a little bit weak and should resist the situation more. I don't know that it makes us socialists or something else. But your point is taken.

When it comes to the time when the mark of the Beast is in effect. Your strict adherance will be necessary.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-26   17:22:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

When it comes to the time when the mark of the Beast is in effect. Your strict adherance will be necessary.

This was my primary motivation.

The SSN is the number of a man's name. I've read hundreds of commentaries on it and my conclusion is that it is the mark. I completely understand others that think it's a physical mark yet to come. I hope they're right. Allow me another paragraph.

Today, we are still supposed to live in a free society. Even though we know better or admit that our freedoms have diminished considerably, the political jackals would never come out and say "you're not free, you're a slave".

My position is this: If I haven't got the testicles to say no while I'm alleged to be free and threatened only with jail, what are my chances of holding up under real tyranny and the threat of death ?

noone222  posted on  2009-01-26   18:04:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The SSN is the number of a man's name. I've read hundreds of commentaries on it and my conclusion is that it is the mark.

It isn't. It isn't global. The mark says every person on earth. Every tongue. The social security card is limited to the United States. So it can't possibly be the mark of the beast. That doesn't mean it isn't evil though. The bible also warned about merely counting people.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-26   18:06:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

It isn't. It isn't global. The mark says every person on earth. Every tongue. The social security card is limited to the United States. So it can't possibly be the mark of the beast. That doesn't mean it isn't evil though. The bible also warned about merely counting people.

Please don't think me just argumentative. Jesus said that he came "only for the lost sheep of the House of Israel". "Only" being the operative word. (Jesus said it, not me.)

If one were of the belief that the ten lost tribes (the House of Israel) were the settlers or descendants of the western European nations such as Norway, Britain, Ireland, Scotland, Germany, France, Sweden, Switzerland, Denmark, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc., it isn't difficult to discover that they ALL HAVE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS and SS Systems just like ours.

noone222  posted on  2009-01-26   18:23:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#58. To: noone222 (#48)

But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 25

Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. 26

But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs. 27

And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table. 28

Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.

Also the Bible says every nation will be represented.

Now back to social security card. How do we receive in in our RIGHT hand or FOREHEAD? Answer we don't. Also it says EVERY KINDRED TONGUE AND NATION will have to receive the mark. So it is global.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-26 22:35:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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