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Title: 'Nuke From Iran Within This Year'
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URL Source: http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wo ... arhead/Article/200901415211260
Published: Jan 27, 2009
Author: Geoff Meade
Post Date: 2009-01-27 09:28:14 by Disgusted
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Views: 1834
Comments: 148

'Nuke From Iran Within This Year'

Breaking News2:14pm UK, Tuesday January 27, 2009

Geoff Meade, defence correspondent

Iran will have enough enriched uranium to make a single nuclear weapon later this year, the prestigious International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) predicts.

The think tank's Mark Fitzpatrick made the announcement at today's launch of its annual global review of military powers.

"During 2009, Iran will probably reach the point at which it has produced the amount of low-enriched uranium needed to make a nuclear bomb," he said.

"But being able to enrich uranium is not the same as having a nuclear weapon."

However, the survey reports doubts over US Intelligence estimates that Iran halted its work on nuclear weapons six years ago.

This points to Tehran's continued development of long-range ballistic missiles able to reach targets in Israel and beyond.

The IISS recommends a mixture of carrot and stick as the best international response.

It concluded a dual policy of engagement and sanctions, testing possibilities for Iranian cooperation while adopting targeted containment strategies, is the best way to deal with Iran's nuclear programme.


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No more nukes, Obama tells Iran - Country 'grave threat' to France, U.S. if armed

Peter O'Neil, Canwest News Service

Published: Saturday, July 26, 2008

PARIS - Democratic candidate Barack Obama, basking in his rock star reception in European capitals, warned Iran on Friday to end its "illicit" nuclear program before a next American president takes control of the White House.

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#88. To: X-15 (#85)

"Vienna - Austrian far-right parliamentarian Susanne Winter was convicted Thursday of incitement because of her anti-Muslim statements, including the claim that Islam's prophet Mohammed was a paedophile. A court in Winter's home town of Graz also found the 51-year-old politician guilty of humiliating a religion. She was sentenced to a fine of 24,000 euros (31,000 dollars) euros and a suspended prison term of three months, Austrian news agency APA reported."

That's screwed up. At least that isn't the case in this country yet.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   12:00:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: RickyJ (#87)

The hypothetical was that they could kill you. That your life was in danger and you couldn't run.

I'll take your answer as you would do all you could to not kill your attackers.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   12:02:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Old Friend (#66) (Edited)

Can't beat your opponent in debate have him banned.

Tell you what put me on Bozo and don't talk to me and I will probably do the same. Until you make an asinine comment (if you do) which I will rip on.

I wasn't writing about you, but 2012.

Every board needs a pet zionist.

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Nehemiah 4:14 And I looked and arose and said to the nobles and to the officials and to the rest of the people, “Do not be afraid of them. Remember the Lord, who is great and awesome, and fight for your brothers, your sons, your daughters, your wives, and your homes.”

PSUSA  posted on  2009-01-27   12:32:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: PSUSA (#90)

I wasn't writing about you, byt 2012.

Every board needs a pet zionist.

My bad.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   12:34:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Yellow Cake (#83)

If they were Jews, I'd pull a nickle out of my pocket, roll it down the street, and watch them trample each other trying to get it.

LOL!

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Nehemiah 4:14 And I looked and arose and said to the nobles and to the officials and to the rest of the people, “Do not be afraid of them. Remember the Lord, who is great and awesome, and fight for your brothers, your sons, your daughters, your wives, and your homes.”

PSUSA  posted on  2009-01-27   12:34:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Old Friend, All (#91)

Now tell me again about the "jews" giving up their land for peace?

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Nehemiah 4:14 And I looked and arose and said to the nobles and to the officials and to the rest of the people, “Do not be afraid of them. Remember the Lord, who is great and awesome, and fight for your brothers, your sons, your daughters, your wives, and your homes.”

PSUSA  posted on  2009-01-27   12:39:11 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: PSUSA (#93)

On that day Yahweh made a covenant with Abram, saying, "To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt as far as the great river, the river Euphrates. (Genesis 15:18)

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   12:42:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Old Friend (#94)

Do you really think these europeans are descendants of Abram?

Seriously, I am trying to figure out why you defend these imposters. I dont believe you are a "jew" or anything like that, because I used to be the same way as you. I believed that the "israel" of today was a rebirth of Israel. It's a very popular teaching by todays apostates. Then I learned a few things.

Now, about that obvious genocide. How can you support that?

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Nehemiah 4:14 And I looked and arose and said to the nobles and to the officials and to the rest of the people, “Do not be afraid of them. Remember the Lord, who is great and awesome, and fight for your brothers, your sons, your daughters, your wives, and your homes.”

PSUSA  posted on  2009-01-27   12:48:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Old Friend (#94)

On that day Yahweh made a covenant with Abram, saying, "To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt as far as the great river, the river Euphrates. (Genesis 15:18)

What day was it ? Any witnesses ? Any DNA ? What exactly does this alleged 4000 year old covenant have to do with modern reality, international law and the genocide being committed by Jews today ???

If you're not a JEW, you're certainly a zionazi.

If a thousand men were not to pay their tax bills this year, that would not be a violent and bloody measure, as it would be to pay them, and enable the State to commit violence and shed innocent blood.

Henry David Thoreau - 1849

noone222  posted on  2009-01-27   12:48:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Old Friend, Cynicom, LACUMO (#67)

You still avoid the question: why is it OK for Israel to have nukes, but not Iran? If Iran should be boycotted and threatened for violating international law and eveloping nuclear weapons, why is Israel exempt?

Just as you avoid the fact that Israel has bombed or invaded just about all of its neighbors over the past 50 years, while Iran has attacked and invaded NOBODY for centuries.

In a perfect world, nobody would have nuclear weapons, including the US. But in an imperfect world, the world is a lot safer with a nuclear armed Iran than a nuclear armed Israel.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-01-27   13:26:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#97)

In a perfect world, nobody would have nuclear weapons, including the US. But in an imperfect world, the world is a lot safer with a nuclear armed Iran than a nuclear armed Israel.

Rupert...

Go way back to the USS Liberty affair.

Two American fighters were dispatched with nuclear weapons to bomb Cairo and were recalled at the last moment.

Cario?????

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-27   14:42:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: PSUSA (#95)

Do you really think these europeans are descendants of Abram?

Now, about that obvious genocide. How can you support that?

Yes the Jews are decendants of Abram. That includes many from Europe.

It is not genocide. If it was they would purposefully target civilians. They dont. That is the difference between the palis and Israel. The palis go blow themselves up at malls and in buses etc. Deliberately targeting civilans. Israel targets the Hamas militants who often hide among civilians.

Hamas has in their charter the destruction of Israel. They want Israel wiped off the map. So I have no sympathy for Hamas fighters being targeted. It is called self defense.

I was going to throw in the parable where some seed finds good ground and some bad ground etc.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   9:35:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#97)

You still avoid the question: why is it OK for Israel to have nukes, but not Iran?

Because Israel already has them. Can't change that. The more countries that have them the more unstable the world becomes. Besides Israel has proved they use them only for defense. Iran has threatened other countries such as Israel with annihilation.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   9:37:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Old Friend (#99)

I dont know quite where to start with this.

Yes the Jews are decendants of Abram. That includes many from Europe.

That is decidedly untrue. Note: I am not calling you a liar, unless you know better and decide to post that anyway.

Research the Ashkenazis. I wont provide a link, pick one you trust. They aren't descendants of Abram. Research the roots of zionism, the terrorist acts against the UK and the US, and the people that lived there for centuries before "israel" was formed. Check out the curious timing of the Balfour Declaration and our entry into WW1.

It is not genocide. If it was they would purposefully target civilians. They dont. That is the difference between the palis and Israel. The palis go blow themselves up at malls and in buses etc. Deliberately targeting civilans. Israel targets the Hamas militants who often hide among civilians.

They do deliberately target civilians. They, the palestinians fight back with the weapons at hand. They are fighting for their lives. They are losing. They are strangling to death due to the blockade "israel" set up around them. It is genocide.

Hamas has in their charter the destruction of Israel. They want Israel wiped off the map. So I have no sympathy for Hamas fighters being targeted. It is called self defense.

And "israel" is doing it's best to destroy the Palestinians. All of them. Look at the map I posted above. Of course they want to destroy "israel". So would you, if you were a Palestinian that just had his family wiped out.

I was going to throw in the parable where some seed finds good ground and some bad ground etc.

That parable has nothing to do with it, unless you subscribe to the "serpent seed doctrine".

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-01-28   9:52:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: PSUSA (#101)

They are strangling to death due to the blockade "israel" set up around them.

I'll address this for starters. Why did Israel stop letting them come into Israel and set up road blocks and stuff. Answer to stop the suicide bombings. It seems to have worked.

Hamas should get the message. Stop targeting civilians and then we will let you come back to work in Israel. It is a shame because I am sure many Palis want peace. And they don't want to kill Jews or anyone else.

Bottom line is there will NEVER be a solution. I don't see one anyway.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   9:59:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: PSUSA (#101)

Yes the Jews are decendants of Abram. That includes many from Europe.

That is decidedly untrue. Note: I am not calling you a liar, unless you know better and decide to post that anyway.

Then why did Hitler want to kill them?

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   10:00:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: PSUSA (#101)

Research the Ashkenazis. I wont provide a link, pick one you trust.

I would trust a very old hard cover encyclopedia Britannica.

To much hatred of the Jews to trust something written on the web. I'm sure there is truth out there but to many contradictions from different sources.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   10:03:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: PSUSA (#101)

I was going to throw in the parable where some seed finds good ground and some bad ground etc.

That parable has nothing to do with it, unless you subscribe to the "serpent seed doctrine".

I was going to hint that you fell on the ground where tares overgrew your faith. But I don't believe that so I didn't.

Anyway what is this "serpent seed doctrine" you speak of. Sounds interesting. If you have the inclination and time. Post something on it that you think is good. I will take a look.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   10:05:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Old Friend (#105)

Anyway what is this "serpent seed doctrine" you speak of. Sounds interesting. If you have the inclination and time. Post something on it that you think is good. I will take a look.

It basically answers the question on why God chooses some people over others (even though scripture explicitly states that God is not a respecter of persons), and sends the rest to "eternal hell". It's based on genetics. In a nutshell it states that Satan impregnated Eve to give Satan his own bloodline.

It's not interesting, it's total BS. It's amazing how people try and justify how God would send the vast majority of His creation to be tortured in real fire for endless time. It is a half-assed attempt to answer that question.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-01-28   10:13:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Old Friend (#104)

To much hatred of the Jews to trust something written on the web. I'm sure there is truth out there but to many contradictions from different sources.

Agreed. But you can get a good idea on the truth of a matter if you look at different sources. Unfortunately, too many people out there copy/paste the exact same words from the exact same sources. That doesnt make it any easier to research. No one ever said finding the truth of a matter is easy. You have to dig.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-01-28   10:16:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: PSUSA (#107) (Edited)

But you can get a good idea on the truth of a matter if you look at different sources.

The truth is whatever scientific investigation says is the truth. If you want to find truth, turn to science and the scientific method.

The bible isn't truth, it's a mythological fairy tale.

Truth is not some amalgamation of unsupported claims and half-truths found in pop media, or bible babble, or arbitary sources of information.

Most people can't discover truth because they don't understand the scientific method. Some people prefer to believe stories that make them feel good about themselves. There's nothing wrong with feeling good, but accepting things that make you feel good isn't a legitimate search method for finding truth.

Googolplex  posted on  2009-01-28   10:54:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Googolplex (#108)

Most people can't discover truth because they don't understand the scientific method

Is evolution scientific?

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   11:20:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Googolplex (#108)

Some people prefer to believe stories that make them feel good about themselves.

I dont know anyone that believes in the scriptures that makes them "feel good" about themselves. It's the exact opposite.

We are the fools on this planet. The nobody's, the losers. That's what it says. I wouldn't have it any other way.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-01-28   11:32:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Old Friend (#100)

Because Israel already has them. Can't change that. The more countries that have them the more unstable the world becomes. Besides Israel has proved they use them only for defense.

When it was revealed that Israel (illegally) developed nuclear weapons, there was no trade or travel embargo against Israel, no sanctions, no threats of military action. So apparently, it was OK for Israel to break international law (once again), but it isn't OK for Iran or any other country in the region to do so.

Iran has threatened other countries such as Israel with annihilation.

Once again, compare track records. Who has Iran attacked in the last century, and what countries Israel has bombed or invaded? Zero versus a half dozen?

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-01-28   11:46:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#111)

When it was revealed that Israel (illegally) developed nuclear weapons,

So you are one of these supporters of imaginary international law.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   11:48:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Old Friend (#112)

Why do you hate Iran?

Did an Iranian kid beat you up when you were a kid?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-01-28   11:52:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Old Friend (#112) (Edited)

So you are one of these supporters of imaginary international law.

So you're a supporter of one standard for Israel and another for the rest of the world.

You say that you oppose nuclear proliferation - except by "the chosen." Is that about right? In other words, you're fine with "international law" about nuclear proliferation, as long as it's applied to Muslim countries that you and other neoconservatives don't like.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-01-28   11:52:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Old Friend, all (#112)

These alarmist headlines go back to 1991. It's all anti-Iranian proaganda.

Iran could be closer to nuclear weapon
Article from: The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
Article date: August 27, 2003
Author: DOUGLAS FRANTZ

Iran could be closer to nuclear weapon: Enriched uranium found at plant, inspectors say

By DOUGLAS FRANTZ Los Angeles Times

Wednesday, August 27, 2003

Istanbul, Turkey -- International inspectors confirmed Tuesday that particles of highly enriched uranium were discovered in two separate samples taken at a nuclear facility in Iran, raising the possibility that Tehran is further along in developing a nuclear weapon than experts had predicted.

The finding is contained in a confidential report from the International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna, Austria, which provides detailed descriptions of numerous contradictions and misstatements by Iran in recent months. A source outside the agency provided the Los Angeles Times with a copy of the report.

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Russia (and U.S.) help Iran build weapons.(nuclear weapons in Iran)

Article from: Insight on the News
Article date: February 20, 1995
Author: Phillips, James

Iran is becoming more of a nuclear threat because of Russian plans to build a nuclear power plant there and other international investment. The US should take steps to prevent this by limiting oil exports from Iran and urging other countries not to cooperate with Iran.

The Jan. 8 announcement that Russia has agreed to build a nuclear power plant in Iran has intensified concern in Washington about Tehran's determined efforts to acquire nuclear weapons. Although there is considerable uncertainty about the size and pace of Iran's nuclear program, the uncovering of Saddam Hussein's covert effort to build an Iraqi nuclear weapon underscores the danger of complacency.

Western intelligence agencies believe that Iran, like Iraq, is using its civilian nuclear program as a cover for acquiring the technology and expertise with which to build nuclear weapons.

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Reporter warns that Iran has nuclear weapons now

Article from: Cleveland Jewish News
Article date: November 11, 2005
Author: Karfeld, Marilyn H.

Cleveland Jewish News

11-11-2005

Since the end of the hostage crisis at the American embassy in Tehran in 1979, Americans have put Iran on the back burner, said investigative reporter Kenneth Timmerman.

"Iran is a clear and present danger," he recently commented to a small audience at The City Club. "This regime owes its birth to terrorism. Terrorism is public policy. And Iran has nuclear power."

Although U.S. intelligence agencies speak of Iran as a potential nuclear power, Timmerman said the evidence indicates that Iran already possesses nuclear weapons. Before Iran gives a nuclear weapon to a terrorist group intent on incinerating an American target, the U.S. should be helping democratic factions already in the Islamic nation, the journalist said.

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Officials Say Iran Is Seeking Nuclear Weapons Capability; China Sale of Equipment Worth Millions Cited

Article from: The Washington Post
Article date: October 30, 1991
Author: R. Jeffrey Smith

The U.S. intelligence community has recently concluded that Iran is aggressively seeking to develop a nuclear weapon and that China has provided Iran with equipment capable of making some fissile material for such a weapon, according to Bush administration officials.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-01-28   11:53:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Old Friend (#112)

You seem to hate many people.

Do you have any friends (besides the zionists)?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-01-28   11:54:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Old Friend (#109)

Relative to your bible babble quoting methods, evolutionary theories are truth, truth that is subject to revision by the scientific method.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scie ntific_method

The bible fairy tales about Adam & Eve in the garden of Eden are stories targeted for a childs mentality.

The earth is not 5000+ years old, and modern men didn't co-exist with dinosaurs in the Jurassic period (190 to 140 million years ago).

You don't even understand or practice the Golden Rule, a simple and fundamental ethic for real christians. Mainstream christians correctly interpret and practice the Golden Rule, but to them and your kind they are cults.

How can anyone realistically expect you to understand the scientific method, with your demonstrated contempt for logic?

For gods sake, at least use "you're" = "you are" in correct correspondence!

"Your" is not the same as "you're", but you consistently get this wrong too.

Googolplex  posted on  2009-01-28   11:55:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: TwentyTwelve (#113)

Why do you hate Iran?

Did an Iranian kid beat you up when you were a kid?

I hate any country that pushes international law. Globalization.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   11:57:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Jethro Tull (#115)

These alarmist headlines go back to 1991. It's all anti-Iranian proaganda.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-01-28   11:57:51 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Googolplex (#117)

You babbled but you didn't advance your belief an inch.

Better luck next time.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   11:58:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Jethro Tull (#115)

The U.S. intelligence community has recently concluded that Iran is aggressively seeking to develop a nuclear weapon and that China has provided Iran with equipment capable of making some fissile material for such a weapon, according to Bush administration officials.

Not only that but they have said so themselves. Said it is irreversible.

I guess theoretically they have a right to do what they want to do in their country. But when they threaten to wipe Israel off the map with these weapons. Don't be surprised when Israel nukes them out of fear.

I'm not saying it is right or wrong. Just human nature. You have an enemy developing a weapon that can utterly destroy you. A country that has threatened as much.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   12:01:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#114)

So you're a supporter of one standard for Israel and another for the rest of the world.

I'm against international law. Iran doesn't need permission to develop these weapons. But if they do they should know there will be a reaction. Maybe even a nuclear one.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   12:02:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: PSUSA (#110)

I think Old Fiend believes bible-babble because it makes him feel good, as in self-righteous good feelings.

The bible says man was created to dominate the earth, over all animal, vegetable, and mineral. It also says man was created in the image of god.

That's not chopped liver.

I'm fairly certain these ideas appeal to Old Fiend's sense of feeling good about himself.

Googolplex  posted on  2009-01-28   12:02:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#114)

So you're a supporter of one standard

I don't support any standards. No international law BS. It is incompatible with our constitution.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   12:03:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: Old Friend (#121)

Don't be surprised when Israel nukes them out of fear.

Then why isn't it kosher for Iran to nuke them out of fear?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-01-28   12:03:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: Googolplex (#123)

Go eat a banana monkey boy.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   12:03:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Old Friend (#118)

I hate any country that pushes international law.

Israel exists entirely due to international law.

Do you hate that Israel exists?

Or do you hate international law only when it does not suit your Zionazi agenda?

scrapper2  posted on  2009-01-28   12:04:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Jethro Tull (#125)

Then why isn't it kosher for Iran to nuke them out of fear?

As a human being I can see Iran thinking the same way.

But Israel has had them for 40 years and hasn't used them. So it seems Iran has a lot less to fear. Nothing to do with Kosher.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   12:05:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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