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Title: 'Nuke From Iran Within This Year'
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wo ... arhead/Article/200901415211260
Published: Jan 27, 2009
Author: Geoff Meade
Post Date: 2009-01-27 09:28:14 by Disgusted
Keywords: None
Views: 1520
Comments: 148

'Nuke From Iran Within This Year'

Breaking News2:14pm UK, Tuesday January 27, 2009

Geoff Meade, defence correspondent

Iran will have enough enriched uranium to make a single nuclear weapon later this year, the prestigious International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) predicts.

The think tank's Mark Fitzpatrick made the announcement at today's launch of its annual global review of military powers.

"During 2009, Iran will probably reach the point at which it has produced the amount of low-enriched uranium needed to make a nuclear bomb," he said.

"But being able to enrich uranium is not the same as having a nuclear weapon."

However, the survey reports doubts over US Intelligence estimates that Iran halted its work on nuclear weapons six years ago.

This points to Tehran's continued development of long-range ballistic missiles able to reach targets in Israel and beyond.

The IISS recommends a mixture of carrot and stick as the best international response.

It concluded a dual policy of engagement and sanctions, testing possibilities for Iranian cooperation while adopting targeted containment strategies, is the best way to deal with Iran's nuclear programme.


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No more nukes, Obama tells Iran - Country 'grave threat' to France, U.S. if armed

Peter O'Neil, Canwest News Service

Published: Saturday, July 26, 2008

PARIS - Democratic candidate Barack Obama, basking in his rock star reception in European capitals, warned Iran on Friday to end its "illicit" nuclear program before a next American president takes control of the White House.

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#1. To: Disgusted (#0)

Nuke Tel Aviv for practice.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-27   9:29:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Cynicom (#1)

Nuke Tel Aviv for practice.

You need to be in a mental institution. Sicko mother fucker.

Maybe a jew should shoot you. Since you want them all dead. Would you like that?

Good thing your just a stupid old man who is a nobody.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   9:43:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Cynicom (#1)

Iran has the same nukes and WMD's that Saddam had, and that would be none.

Disgusted  posted on  2009-01-27   9:50:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Old Friend (#2)

Good thing your just a stupid old man who is a nobody.

Back at ya..

Now zip it up, zionist jackass..

Lady X  posted on  2009-01-27   9:52:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Lady X (#4)

Back at ya..

Now zip it up, zionist jackass..

I wont zip anything little mind. The asshole senile old man is a genocidal wannabe. I wouldn't blame any Jew who but one between his eyes. Not after wanting to nuke all the Jews killing innocent children by the hundreds of thousands or millions.

And you are telling me to zip it. Your a pathetic POS if that is your view. Why not condemn a wannabee genocidal maniac. Unless you too are one of those hitler wannabees that just wants all the Jews dead. Your a sicko.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   9:54:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Disgusted, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#0)

Iran will have enough enriched uranium to make a single nuclear weapon later this year, the prestigious International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) predicts.

Wow. I'm impressed. They are "prestigious". That simply MUST mean they are telling us the truth...

"Prestigious" my ass.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-01-27   9:54:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Old Friend (#5)

You're just too stupid for me to respond.

Lady X  posted on  2009-01-27   9:56:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: All (#0)

Is anyone going to condemn this sicko cynicoms post to nuke Tel Aviv. Or are some you folks fine with nuking innocent kids?

The silence is damning.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   9:56:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Lady X (#7)

That the best you can do lamer? You've already responded twice you little c**t. But failed to address the point. I guess you support mass murder as long as it is the Jews. Your even more worthless then I previously thought.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   9:58:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Old Friend (#8)

You're a-okay about zionist thugs killing innocent Palistinians.

Lady X  posted on  2009-01-27   9:59:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Lady X (#10) (Edited)

That is a lie, but I would make an exception if you are a pali. Then I would be ok with it because you hate them and want to nuke them obviously sick bitch.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   10:00:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Disgusted (#0)

Good news. Mossad won't detonate a nuke in the U.S. for a year.

Too sexy for my goat.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-01-27   10:01:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Old Friend, cynicom (#2)

You need to be in a mental institution. Sicko mother fucker.

Maybe a jew should shoot you. Since you want them all dead. Would you like that?

You must be a joo to spew such hatred. You would have made a great bush team player and probably were. Of course you are one of those bad joos. We all got your sorry ass pegged. Now you're shilling for obanger, the new jooish NWO king puppet.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-01-27   10:01:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Old Friend (#9)

You've already responded twice you little c**t.

Fine words from our resident disciple of Christ.

I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.
Diner Schenectady, NY

Critter  posted on  2009-01-27   10:03:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: LACUMO (#13)

You must be a joo to spew such hatred.

It isn't hatred to be against nuking a people. On the other hand you probably want them nuked too? Prove me wrong say sickocom was wrong or say he was right.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   10:05:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Critter (#14) (Edited)

I said cunt and you get your panties in a was. Sickocom wants to nuke a people and I suppose you are A ok with that right. Point blank to you agree with Sickocom that Tel aviv should be nuked?

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   10:06:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Old Friend (#16)

Old Friend, has it occurred to you that only one country in your absurd argument is nuclear armed, and that country isn't Iran? It's revealing that you immediately leap to the defense of that warrior nation.

Disgusted  posted on  2009-01-27   10:26:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Old Friend (#15)

It isn't hatred to be against nuking a people. On the other hand you probably want them nuked too? Prove me wrong say sickocom was wrong or say he was right.

Well you know you joos want to control the world and will stop at nothing to do so. Did you ever honestly stop and consider why so many countries throughout history end up hating you joos?

I'm not going to lie to you, or lie like you do. You claim to "love" everybody and then wish horrible death to Palis and any one who is a muslim because you claim they are sub-human. I am not prejudiced against the joos, I just don't like the lousy zionist joos. The good joos is okey-dokey. Only trouble is, there aren't enough good joos and the bad joos are the ones making all the trouble world wide and they are the ones in control.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-01-27   10:26:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Disgusted (#17)

Old Friend, has it occurred to you that only one country in your absurd argument is nuclear armed, and that country isn't Iran? It's revealing that you immediately leap to the defense of that warrior nation.

Iran is on their way to nukes. They want nukes.

Sickocom wants the Jews nuked in Tel Aviv. Do you want them nuked too?

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   10:28:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Old Friend, Cynicom (#2)

Nuke Tel Aviv for practice.

You need to be in a mental institution. Sicko mother fucker.

Maybe a jew should shoot you. Since you want them all dead. Would you like that?

Good thing your just a stupid old man who is a nobody.

You are the one that supported the murder of little kids in Gaza.

The World is upset with the Communists Zionists.

The World does not like baby killers.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-01-27   10:30:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: LACUMOaka toilet seat (#18)

Well you know you joos want to control the world and will stop at nothing to do so. Did you ever honestly stop and consider why so many countries throughout history end up hating you joos?

I'm not going to lie to you, or lie like you do. You claim to "love" everybody and then wish horrible death to Palis and any one who is a muslim because you claim they are sub-human. I am not prejudiced against the joos, I just don't like the lousy zionist joos. The good joos is okey-dokey. Only trouble is, there aren't enough good joos and the bad joos are the ones making all the trouble world wide and they are the ones in control.

Lets start off with this. You can't spell. Did you flunk 3rd grade?

Next. I am not a natural Jew. Christ said christians are spiritual Jews. So I guess that is what I am.

Next You say you are not going to lie like me. Show me one lie I said please. Here is the lie you said. "you claim they are sub-human." I never said any such thing. So that makes you the liar not me. If you think I am lying about this prove it with a link. You wont because you can't and you are the liar.

The only thing I said is that I understand why the Jews would kill the palis who are firing rockets. Why do the palis send their kids out to be suicide bombers? Why do they fire rockets from civilian areas? Why have they been caught repeatedly using ambulances to carry and fire weapons?

Why does Egypt not want the palis? Why does Syria not want them?

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   10:33:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Old Friend (#16)

I'm just pointing out that you are a fraud, so anything you say is a fraud.

I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.
Diner Schenectady, NY

Critter  posted on  2009-01-27   10:33:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Old Friend (#21)

Christ said christians are spiritual Jews

No wonder he got nailed to a tree and rolled into a cave by Jews.

Disgusted  posted on  2009-01-27   10:35:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: TwentyTwelve (#20)

You are the one that supported the murder of little kids in Gaza.

I don't support murdering anyone. I understand that when a country is attacked by hostiles who want to "push them into the sea" or make them disappear as the Iranian nut said. Then they have a right to defend themselves. That they are cowards and fire from close proximity to civilians is not the fault of the Jews. The Jews even went so far as to warn where they would attack before hand. To bad the muslim scum (all the muslims will go to hell its a fact) don't care enough about their own kids to not fire weapons at a superior power when kids are around. The muslims are a cult.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   10:35:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Critter (#22)

I'm just pointing out that you are a fraud, so anything you say is a fraud.

Smilin' Bernie Made-off is his daddy.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
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Esso  posted on  2009-01-27   10:36:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Critter (#22)

I'm just pointing out that you are a fraud, so anything you say is a fraud.

I'm getting tired of him showing us that enormous corncob up his butt.

"We don't know who discovered water, but we are certain it wasn't a fish." -- John Culkin (1928-1993) American media scholar and critic, educator, writer and consultant

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2009-01-27   10:36:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Critter (#22)

I'm just pointing out that you are a fraud, so anything you say is a fraud.

I notice that you still haven't condemned the genocidal manias sickocoms comments.

How am I a fraud. Because I used a curse word. So anyone who curses can't possibly be a christian according to you correct?

Here I will say something. You are a human. I must be incorrect right?

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   10:37:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: OliviaFNewton (#26)

I'm getting tired of him showing us that enormous corncob up his butt.

I'm getting tired of Cynicom wanting to nuke a people. Are you ok with that. Or are you to chicken shit to answer?

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   10:38:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Old Friend (#28)

I'm getting tired of Cynicom wanting to nuke a people. Are you ok with that. Or are you to chicken shit to answer?

Yawwwwwwn. Can you bend over a little more so we can see the full moon?

"We don't know who discovered water, but we are certain it wasn't a fish." -- John Culkin (1928-1993) American media scholar and critic, educator, writer and consultant

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2009-01-27   10:39:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Old Friend (#24)

Then they have a right to defend themselves.

Does Gaza have a right to defend themselves?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-01-27   10:41:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Old Friend (#21)

The only thing I said is that I understand why the Jews would kill the palis who are firing rockets.

But that is not who they are killing. And you know it.

And they would not be launching cobbled together rockets in the first place if they were treated like human beings in the first place. But that is not how they are treated. THey tear down their houses, rip up their orchards, make it impossible for them to work, or just to get to the hospital for treatment. They treat the Palestinians the exact same way the "jews" claim the nazis treated them.

This does not bode well for "israel".

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-01-27   10:42:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Old Friend (#24)

Then they have a right to defend themselves.

Are you saying that the Satanic Zionists committed no war crimes in Gaza?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-01-27   10:42:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Old Friend (#24)

Then they have a right to defend themselves.

The Zionosts are the ones who broke the ceasefire. Are you ok with this?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-01-27   10:44:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: PSUSA (#31)

But that is not who they are killing. And you know it.

And they would not be launching cobbled together rockets in the first place if they were treated like human beings in the first place. But that is not how they are treated. THey tear down their houses, rip up their orchards, make it impossible for them to work, or just to get to the hospital for treatment. They treat the Palestinians the exact same way the "jews" claim the nazis treated them.

This does not bode well for "israel".

.

The Jews do wrong too. But they have tried to make peace with the palis. You mention tearing down houses. The Jews tore down their own peoples houses, houses that their people paid for and owned. That was done in the name of peace to try and appease the palis. But nothing will make them happy. They will not be happy until Cynicoms wet dream comes true.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   10:45:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: TwentyTwelve (#33)

The Zionosts are the ones who broke the ceasefire. Are you ok with this?

They did not. Hamas was launching rockets throughout the so called cease fire. They were also stock piling weapons to kill the Jews with. Fact is they are in Israel. Land of the Jews. They should simply leave.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   10:46:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: TwentyTwelve (#32)

Are you saying that the Satanic Zionists committed no war crimes in Gaza?

warcrimes is a made up term. Made up by the victors so they can punish and kill the defeated.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   10:47:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Old Friend (#34)

The Jews do wrong too

Do you think?

Duh.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-01-27   10:47:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Old Friend (#21)

Next. I am not a natural Jew. Christ said christians are spiritual Jews. So I guess that is what I am.

Your above statement is blasphemy! The only thing that you have to do with Christianity is that you give it a bad name.Teddy Haggard probably has a better shot of making it to heaven than you do. You better get down on your knees and ask God to forgive you before it is too late.

Your hatred of Palis, including women and little children, and your cheering on the genocide in the middle east by the jooish state of israhell, is going to be rewarded with a very warm place for you to live in eternity and you could have to move there yet today, within the next hour, the next minute, the next second.

You don't fool anybody on this forum. We are all on to your lies, your blabber, and your zionist hatred for the reast of mankind. Satan and the phony zionists must be proud of you and probably welcomes you as a brother.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-01-27   10:48:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Old Friend (#2)

Maybe a jew should shoot you

Rather intemperate this morning, especially as I did not post to you.

I find it rather odd that Israel rants endlessly about Iran having...a nuclear weapon... while they have 300.

Perhaps endless propaganda and hysteria is a means to some end for Israel???

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-27   10:48:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Old Friend (#2)

You need to be in a mental institution. Sicko mother fucker.

Well.

Looks like someone knows how to push your button.

Too sexy for my goat.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-01-27   10:49:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Old Friend, Cynicom, ALL (#35)

The Zionosts are the ones who broke the ceasefire. Are you ok with this?

They did not. Hamas was launching rockets throughout the so called cease fire. They were also stock piling weapons to kill the Jews with. Fact is they are in Israel. Land of the Jews. They should simply leave.

Israel admits: "No Hamas rockets were fired during ceasefire"

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zfFMZ7Y-s_c

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-01-27   10:50:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Cynicom (#39)

My beef with you is that you want to nuke the Jews. That isn't right. You know it isn't.

As to Israel having nukes. Remember that they could obliterate Iran, Syria etc. But they haven't. Do you think the muslims would have the same restraint. You an American wants to nuke them. So I find it hard to believe that the muslims wouldn't use nukes against Israel.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   10:53:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#40)

Looks like someone knows how to push your button.

Yeah, all you have to do is ding the jew bell and old zionutter starts fizzin' & foamin' like one of Pavlov's dogs. That's why I've got creepo on bozo.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
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Esso  posted on  2009-01-27   10:55:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Cynicom (#39)

Maybe a jew should shoot you

I guess I shouldn't have said that. Will you agree that you shouldn't have said to nuke Israel?

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   10:55:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#40)

Well.

Looks like someone knows how to push your button.

I suppose. :)

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   10:55:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Old Friend (#35)

They were also stock piling weapons to kill the Jews with

Yellow Cake  posted on  2009-01-27   10:56:16 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Old Friend, Cynicom, ALL (#35)

The Zionosts are the ones who broke the ceasefire. Are you ok with this?

They did not. Hamas was launching rockets throughout the so called cease fire. They were also stock piling weapons to kill the Jews with. Fact is they are in Israel. Land of the Jews. They should simply leave.

CNN Confirms Israel Broke Ceasefire First

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-01-27   10:58:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Yellow Cake (#46)

Do you like getting hit with rocks? I don't. Ever heard of someone getting stoned to death? Tell you what. If that kid was in a group of say 20 kids and they were trying to stone me to death. If I had a machine gun I would take them all down.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   10:58:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Yellow Cake, ALL (#46)

The kid is a major threat to Israel.

This is why he had to be shot and sprayed with white phosphorous.

Not to take any chances, the zionists had to wipe out the kids entire family as well, including his three-month old sister.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-01-27   11:03:04 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Old Friend, all (#48)

If I had a machine gun I would take them all down.

So you would actually gun down kids?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-01-27   11:05:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Old Friend (#48)

If I had a machine gun I would take them all down.

Anyone who has your attitude towards muslim women and kids ought to be nuked. Nukes are what is going to end mankind this time around. It will happen when God wants it to. Either way, you personally won't be able to escape a very very hot eternity with your attitude of hate. What a sorry excuse for a human being you really are.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-01-27   11:07:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Old Friend, All (#42)

My beef with you is that you want to nuke the Jews. That isn't right. You know it isn't.

Lets be practical about this, no need for obscene and vulgar language.

For many years, Israel has had nuclear weapons, no one uttered a word about them.

Now all of a sudden Israel is in terror just perhaps Iran might have one bomb.

So what has been RIGHT for 30 years for Israel is not right for Iran??????

The Jews ALWAYS present and paint themselves as victims, always. No one else is ever a victim. The Arabs and Iranians have been living under the threat of nuclear weapons from Israel for over a generation but somehow Israel cannot cope with a parity of military weapons.

They better get use to it.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-27   11:07:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Cynicom (#52)

{{applaud}}

christine  posted on  2009-01-27   11:09:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Cynicom (#52)

The Jews ALWAYS present and paint themselves as victims, always. No one else is ever a victim. The Arabs and Iranians have been living under the threat of nuclear weapons from Israel for over a generation but somehow Israel cannot cope with a parity of military weapons.

They better get use to it.

You articulated the situation masterfully. You get an A+.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-01-27   11:13:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Old Friend (#48)

A rock isn't a weapon, well maybe in your world it is.

If Israel were a nation of abortion doctors, some would love to dance in a boiling Jew stew.

Yellow Cake  posted on  2009-01-27   11:13:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: LACUMO (#54)

agreed ;)

christine  posted on  2009-01-27   11:15:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: TwentyTwelve, christine (#47)

You're a real wet blanket. How dare you interrupt a good argument with provable facts!

Christine, please ban this troublemaker!

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-01-27   11:16:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: TwentyTwelve (#50)

If I had a machine gun I would take them all down.

So you would actually gun down kids?

If a group of them were threatening my life. Damn straight I would. It is not a scenario that I expect to happen. Hypothetical. Any reasonable person would.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   11:20:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Cynicom (#52)

Lets be practical about this, no need for obscene and vulgar language.

Ok lets be practical. You said you are for nuking tel aviv. How many kids would that be that you support being killed?

It would also drift into muslim areas. Are you ok with that too?

Vulgar language bad nuking israel good. Sounds like the new George Orwell Book.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   11:21:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: PSUSA (#57)

Christine, please ban this troublemaker!

Nuking israel good. Cursing at one who wants to nuke Israel Bad. You have a warped sense of right and wrong.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   11:23:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: LACUMO, Old Friend, christine, OliviaFNewton, All (#54)

You articulated the situation masterfully. You get an A+.

Thank you...

Firstly I remember when the Jews STOLE the nuclear secrets from the US.

Secondly...

I do not speak lightly about nuking anyone, for this reason. More than likely I was in the A-bomb delivery business before Old Friend was born. It was no pleasure being part of a group that was indeed going kill hundreds of thousands of innocents, if the NEED arose.

Having been in that business for a few years, one does come face to face with reality, a reality that says this is all bigger than you or any individual.

For Israel to dance wildly in hysterics because someone MIGHT have a bomb while they have hundreds is obscene and hypocritical.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-27   11:25:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: LACUMO, Old Friend, Cynicom (#51)

To Old Friend: Anyone who has your attitude towards muslim women and kids ought to be nuked. Nukes are what is going to end mankind this time around. It will happen when God wants it to. Either way, you personally won't be able to escape a very very hot eternity with your attitude of hate. What a sorry excuse for a human being you really are.

Well said.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-01-27   11:26:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Cynicom (#52)

For many years, Israel has had nuclear weapons, no one uttered a word about them.

That isn't the truth. People have whined about it for years. Fact is Israel is a primary reason that they still are in exixtance because of their deterrence. Israel hasn't used them. Fact is Iran wants Israel to be gone.

Muslims aren't sane. To believe what they believe you would have to be insane. I mean worshiping a pedophile come on. Kill some innocents and you get a bunch of virgins. Yeah right.

So Israel hasn't nuked their enemies. Iran threatens to. Big difference. A nuclear Iran would be horrible for the entire world. Especially if they started using them. It would be better if there was no such thing as nukes. But there is and the fewer that have them the better we all are.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   11:27:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Cynicom (#61)

For Israel to dance wildly in hysterics because someone MIGHT have a bomb while they have hundreds is obscene and hypocritical.

Except you leave out the part about Iran actually wanting to use them on Israel. How convenient.

So are you still of the opinion that Israel should be nuked? You keep dancing around that question.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   11:29:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Cynicom, LACUMO, Old Friend, christine, OliviaFNewton, (#61)

For Israel to dance wildly in hysterics because someone MIGHT have a bomb while they have hundreds is obscene and hypocritical.

But "The Chosen Ones" think that they have special rights concerning nukes.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-01-27   11:29:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: PSUSA (#57)

Christine, please ban this troublemaker!

.

Can't beat your opponent in debate have him banned.

Tell you what put me on Bozo and don't talk to me and I will probably do the same. Until you make an asinine comment (if you do) which I will rip on.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   11:31:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Cynicom (#52)

The Jews ALWAYS present and paint themselves as victims, always.

You constantly paint yourself as a victim of the Jews. They did this and they did that. Everything is the fault of the Jews.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   11:32:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Old Friend (#63)

So Israel hasn't nuked their enemies. Iran threatens to. Big difference. A nuclear Iran would be horrible for the entire world.

So you are saying that killing little Muslim kids and spraying white phosphorous over them is not horrible.

If someone sprayed white phosphorous over Israel would you consider it to be horrible? Of course you would.

You are a total hypocrite!

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-01-27   11:34:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Old Friend (#48)

Gaza Pics

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-01-27   11:36:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Old Friend (#64) (Edited)

Dancing????

I suspect you read my first post rather clearly, that is what seems to get under your skin.

More than likely the others in the ME are fully aware that the Israel nukes have ALWAYS been aimed at them. They have lived that way for many years and nothing they could do about it. Now that there might be some measure of parity, all of a sudden Israel and its worshipers go into a catatonic stage.

Now Israel has to ACCEPT that indeed someone might lob one in their direction and it scares them.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-27   11:36:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Cynicom (#61)

Plus, you had the knowledge that in one sortie you could deliver more damage than all the aircrews that dropped loads all over Europe in WWII combined. Pretty heady stuff.

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X-15  posted on  2009-01-27   11:37:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: TwentyTwelve (#68)

If someone sprayed white phosphorous over Israel would you consider it to be horrible?

You answer first.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   11:38:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Cynicom (#61)

Thank you...

Firstly I remember when the Jews STOLE the nuclear secrets from the US.

Secondly...

I do not speak lightly about nuking anyone, for this reason. More than likely I was in the A-bomb delivery business before Old Friend was born. It was no pleasure being part of a group that was indeed going kill hundreds of thousands of innocents, if the NEED arose.

Having been in that business for a few years, one does come face to face with reality, a reality that says this is all bigger than you or any individual.

For Israel to dance wildly in hysterics because someone MIGHT have a bomb while they have hundreds is obscene and hypocritical.

Well said cyni.

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OliviaFNewton  posted on  2009-01-27   11:39:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: TwentyTwelve (#65)

But "The Chosen Ones" think that they have special rights concerning nukes.

Seems that way.

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OliviaFNewton  posted on  2009-01-27   11:41:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Cynicom (#70)

Dancing????

I suspect you read my first post rather clearly, that is what seems to get under your skin.

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. That maybe you were being sarcastic. How about confirming it for the record.

If you weren't joking and being sarcastic then how do you justify the murder of millions?

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   11:41:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Cynicom (#70)

Now Israel has to ACCEPT that indeed someone might lob one in their direction and it scares them.

Perhaps Israel will understand that the world is getting tired of their insane ME policies.

Israel has created their own mess.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-01-27   11:41:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: X-15 (#71)

Plus, you had the knowledge that in one sortie you could deliver more damage than all the aircrews that dropped loads all over Europe in WWII combined. Pretty heady stuff.

The desired result was to kill as many people as possible and destroy entire cities. Our targets were peoples that could respond in kind. Israel has never been under the gun and now find that idea as untenable.

A 300 to 1 ratio of retaliation seems to me to be in Israels favor.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-27   11:41:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: TwentyTwelve (#76)

Now Israel has to ACCEPT

Actually the don't have to accept it. They could take it out. I wont comment now on if they should or shouldn't but they could.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   11:42:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Old Friend (#72)

Old Friend. What are your feelings if 'terrorists' detonate a nuke in DC, while congress is in full session?

Yellow Cake  posted on  2009-01-27   11:46:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Yellow Cake (#79)

Old Friend. What are your feelings if 'terrorists' detonate a nuke in DC, while congress is in full session?

That would be terrible. Although most of them are evil and traitors I wouldn't support that.

I would like to see the UN disappear though.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   11:49:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Yellow Cake (#79)

If a swarm of 20 kids were trying to kill (and they could) you with stones and you had a gun. What would you do.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   11:50:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Old Friend (#8)

Is anyone going to condemn this sicko cynicoms post to nuke Tel Aviv. Or are some you folks fine with nuking innocent kids?

The silence is damning.

Jews would spit on you in Jerusalem for being a Christian. They burn New Testaments and harass Christians. No their kids shouldn't be killed, but their parents shouldn't be killing other people's kids either. If you think God is on these pretend "Jews" side, think again.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-01-27   11:51:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Old Friend (#81)

If a swarm of 20 kids were trying to kill (and they could) you with stones and you had a gun. What would you do.

If they were Jews, I'd pull a nickle out of my pocket, roll it down the street, and watch them trample each other trying to get it.

Yellow Cake  posted on  2009-01-27   11:55:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Yellow Cake (#83)

If they were Jews, I'd pull a nickle out of my pocket, roll it down the street, and watch them trample each other trying to get it.

That is what Mexicans do. But for a penny. At least they used to in the 80's. It was sad.

But you dodged the question.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   11:57:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Old Friend (#63)

Muslims aren't sane. To believe what they believe you would have to be insane. I mean worshiping a pedophile come on. Kill some innocents and you get a bunch of virgins. Yeah right.

You'd better watch out what you say about muslims, the end is near:

"Vienna - Austrian far-right parliamentarian Susanne Winter was convicted Thursday of incitement because of her anti-Muslim statements, including the claim that Islam's prophet Mohammed was a paedophile. A court in Winter's home town of Graz also found the 51-year-old politician guilty of humiliating a religion. She was sentenced to a fine of 24,000 euros (31,000 dollars) euros and a suspended prison term of three months, Austrian news agency APA reported."

Source: http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/251964,austrian-far-right- legislator-convicted-of-anti-muslim-incitement.html

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X-15  posted on  2009-01-27   11:59:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: RickyJ (#82)

Jews would spit on you in Jerusalem for being a Christian. They burn New Testaments and harass Christians. No their kids shouldn't be killed, but their parents shouldn't be killing other people's kids either. If you think God is on these pretend "Jews" side, think again.

I think we all do wrong. Including the Jews. I think the Bible is true when it says in the last days the Jews will cry out to God and they will be saved.

As far as them being pretend Jews. Some of them may very well be. But definately not all of them or even the majority.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   11:59:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Old Friend (#81)

If a swarm of 20 kids were trying to kill (and they could) you with stones and you had a gun. What would you do.

I would run. 20 kids with stones vs 1 adult with common sense. You can go back later with help and find the kids and put them in juvenile hall. Killing them because they dare to throw stones at people they think, rightly or wrongly, to be the murderers of their friends and family would be wrong. Most every adult can out run a kid, or at least should be able to out run a kid.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-01-27   12:00:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: X-15 (#85)

"Vienna - Austrian far-right parliamentarian Susanne Winter was convicted Thursday of incitement because of her anti-Muslim statements, including the claim that Islam's prophet Mohammed was a paedophile. A court in Winter's home town of Graz also found the 51-year-old politician guilty of humiliating a religion. She was sentenced to a fine of 24,000 euros (31,000 dollars) euros and a suspended prison term of three months, Austrian news agency APA reported."

That's screwed up. At least that isn't the case in this country yet.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   12:00:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: RickyJ (#87)

The hypothetical was that they could kill you. That your life was in danger and you couldn't run.

I'll take your answer as you would do all you could to not kill your attackers.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   12:02:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Old Friend (#66) (Edited)

Can't beat your opponent in debate have him banned.

Tell you what put me on Bozo and don't talk to me and I will probably do the same. Until you make an asinine comment (if you do) which I will rip on.

I wasn't writing about you, but 2012.

Every board needs a pet zionist.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-01-27   12:32:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: PSUSA (#90)

I wasn't writing about you, byt 2012.

Every board needs a pet zionist.

My bad.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   12:34:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Yellow Cake (#83)

If they were Jews, I'd pull a nickle out of my pocket, roll it down the street, and watch them trample each other trying to get it.

LOL!

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-01-27   12:34:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Old Friend, All (#91)

Now tell me again about the "jews" giving up their land for peace?

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#94. To: PSUSA (#93)

On that day Yahweh made a covenant with Abram, saying, "To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt as far as the great river, the river Euphrates. (Genesis 15:18)

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-27   12:42:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Old Friend (#94)

Do you really think these europeans are descendants of Abram?

Seriously, I am trying to figure out why you defend these imposters. I dont believe you are a "jew" or anything like that, because I used to be the same way as you. I believed that the "israel" of today was a rebirth of Israel. It's a very popular teaching by todays apostates. Then I learned a few things.

Now, about that obvious genocide. How can you support that?

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-01-27   12:48:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Old Friend (#94)

On that day Yahweh made a covenant with Abram, saying, "To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt as far as the great river, the river Euphrates. (Genesis 15:18)

What day was it ? Any witnesses ? Any DNA ? What exactly does this alleged 4000 year old covenant have to do with modern reality, international law and the genocide being committed by Jews today ???

If you're not a JEW, you're certainly a zionazi.

If a thousand men were not to pay their tax bills this year, that would not be a violent and bloody measure, as it would be to pay them, and enable the State to commit violence and shed innocent blood.

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noone222  posted on  2009-01-27   12:48:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Old Friend, Cynicom, LACUMO (#67)

You still avoid the question: why is it OK for Israel to have nukes, but not Iran? If Iran should be boycotted and threatened for violating international law and eveloping nuclear weapons, why is Israel exempt?

Just as you avoid the fact that Israel has bombed or invaded just about all of its neighbors over the past 50 years, while Iran has attacked and invaded NOBODY for centuries.

In a perfect world, nobody would have nuclear weapons, including the US. But in an imperfect world, the world is a lot safer with a nuclear armed Iran than a nuclear armed Israel.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-01-27   13:26:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#97)

In a perfect world, nobody would have nuclear weapons, including the US. But in an imperfect world, the world is a lot safer with a nuclear armed Iran than a nuclear armed Israel.

Rupert...

Go way back to the USS Liberty affair.

Two American fighters were dispatched with nuclear weapons to bomb Cairo and were recalled at the last moment.

Cario?????

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-27   14:42:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: PSUSA (#95)

Do you really think these europeans are descendants of Abram?

Now, about that obvious genocide. How can you support that?

Yes the Jews are decendants of Abram. That includes many from Europe.

It is not genocide. If it was they would purposefully target civilians. They dont. That is the difference between the palis and Israel. The palis go blow themselves up at malls and in buses etc. Deliberately targeting civilans. Israel targets the Hamas militants who often hide among civilians.

Hamas has in their charter the destruction of Israel. They want Israel wiped off the map. So I have no sympathy for Hamas fighters being targeted. It is called self defense.

I was going to throw in the parable where some seed finds good ground and some bad ground etc.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   9:35:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#97)

You still avoid the question: why is it OK for Israel to have nukes, but not Iran?

Because Israel already has them. Can't change that. The more countries that have them the more unstable the world becomes. Besides Israel has proved they use them only for defense. Iran has threatened other countries such as Israel with annihilation.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   9:37:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Old Friend (#99)

I dont know quite where to start with this.

Yes the Jews are decendants of Abram. That includes many from Europe.

That is decidedly untrue. Note: I am not calling you a liar, unless you know better and decide to post that anyway.

Research the Ashkenazis. I wont provide a link, pick one you trust. They aren't descendants of Abram. Research the roots of zionism, the terrorist acts against the UK and the US, and the people that lived there for centuries before "israel" was formed. Check out the curious timing of the Balfour Declaration and our entry into WW1.

It is not genocide. If it was they would purposefully target civilians. They dont. That is the difference between the palis and Israel. The palis go blow themselves up at malls and in buses etc. Deliberately targeting civilans. Israel targets the Hamas militants who often hide among civilians.

They do deliberately target civilians. They, the palestinians fight back with the weapons at hand. They are fighting for their lives. They are losing. They are strangling to death due to the blockade "israel" set up around them. It is genocide.

Hamas has in their charter the destruction of Israel. They want Israel wiped off the map. So I have no sympathy for Hamas fighters being targeted. It is called self defense.

And "israel" is doing it's best to destroy the Palestinians. All of them. Look at the map I posted above. Of course they want to destroy "israel". So would you, if you were a Palestinian that just had his family wiped out.

I was going to throw in the parable where some seed finds good ground and some bad ground etc.

That parable has nothing to do with it, unless you subscribe to the "serpent seed doctrine".

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-01-28   9:52:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: PSUSA (#101)

They are strangling to death due to the blockade "israel" set up around them.

I'll address this for starters. Why did Israel stop letting them come into Israel and set up road blocks and stuff. Answer to stop the suicide bombings. It seems to have worked.

Hamas should get the message. Stop targeting civilians and then we will let you come back to work in Israel. It is a shame because I am sure many Palis want peace. And they don't want to kill Jews or anyone else.

Bottom line is there will NEVER be a solution. I don't see one anyway.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   9:59:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: PSUSA (#101)

Yes the Jews are decendants of Abram. That includes many from Europe.

That is decidedly untrue. Note: I am not calling you a liar, unless you know better and decide to post that anyway.

Then why did Hitler want to kill them?

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   10:00:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: PSUSA (#101)

Research the Ashkenazis. I wont provide a link, pick one you trust.

I would trust a very old hard cover encyclopedia Britannica.

To much hatred of the Jews to trust something written on the web. I'm sure there is truth out there but to many contradictions from different sources.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   10:03:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: PSUSA (#101)

I was going to throw in the parable where some seed finds good ground and some bad ground etc.

That parable has nothing to do with it, unless you subscribe to the "serpent seed doctrine".

I was going to hint that you fell on the ground where tares overgrew your faith. But I don't believe that so I didn't.

Anyway what is this "serpent seed doctrine" you speak of. Sounds interesting. If you have the inclination and time. Post something on it that you think is good. I will take a look.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   10:05:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Old Friend (#105)

Anyway what is this "serpent seed doctrine" you speak of. Sounds interesting. If you have the inclination and time. Post something on it that you think is good. I will take a look.

It basically answers the question on why God chooses some people over others (even though scripture explicitly states that God is not a respecter of persons), and sends the rest to "eternal hell". It's based on genetics. In a nutshell it states that Satan impregnated Eve to give Satan his own bloodline.

It's not interesting, it's total BS. It's amazing how people try and justify how God would send the vast majority of His creation to be tortured in real fire for endless time. It is a half-assed attempt to answer that question.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-01-28   10:13:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Old Friend (#104)

To much hatred of the Jews to trust something written on the web. I'm sure there is truth out there but to many contradictions from different sources.

Agreed. But you can get a good idea on the truth of a matter if you look at different sources. Unfortunately, too many people out there copy/paste the exact same words from the exact same sources. That doesnt make it any easier to research. No one ever said finding the truth of a matter is easy. You have to dig.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-01-28   10:16:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: PSUSA (#107) (Edited)

But you can get a good idea on the truth of a matter if you look at different sources.

The truth is whatever scientific investigation says is the truth. If you want to find truth, turn to science and the scientific method.

The bible isn't truth, it's a mythological fairy tale.

Truth is not some amalgamation of unsupported claims and half-truths found in pop media, or bible babble, or arbitary sources of information.

Most people can't discover truth because they don't understand the scientific method. Some people prefer to believe stories that make them feel good about themselves. There's nothing wrong with feeling good, but accepting things that make you feel good isn't a legitimate search method for finding truth.

Googolplex  posted on  2009-01-28   10:54:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Googolplex (#108)

Most people can't discover truth because they don't understand the scientific method

Is evolution scientific?

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   11:20:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Googolplex (#108)

Some people prefer to believe stories that make them feel good about themselves.

I dont know anyone that believes in the scriptures that makes them "feel good" about themselves. It's the exact opposite.

We are the fools on this planet. The nobody's, the losers. That's what it says. I wouldn't have it any other way.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-01-28   11:32:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Old Friend (#100)

Because Israel already has them. Can't change that. The more countries that have them the more unstable the world becomes. Besides Israel has proved they use them only for defense.

When it was revealed that Israel (illegally) developed nuclear weapons, there was no trade or travel embargo against Israel, no sanctions, no threats of military action. So apparently, it was OK for Israel to break international law (once again), but it isn't OK for Iran or any other country in the region to do so.

Iran has threatened other countries such as Israel with annihilation.

Once again, compare track records. Who has Iran attacked in the last century, and what countries Israel has bombed or invaded? Zero versus a half dozen?

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-01-28   11:46:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#111)

When it was revealed that Israel (illegally) developed nuclear weapons,

So you are one of these supporters of imaginary international law.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   11:48:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Old Friend (#112)

Why do you hate Iran?

Did an Iranian kid beat you up when you were a kid?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-01-28   11:52:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Old Friend (#112) (Edited)

So you are one of these supporters of imaginary international law.

So you're a supporter of one standard for Israel and another for the rest of the world.

You say that you oppose nuclear proliferation - except by "the chosen." Is that about right? In other words, you're fine with "international law" about nuclear proliferation, as long as it's applied to Muslim countries that you and other neoconservatives don't like.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-01-28   11:52:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Old Friend, all (#112)

These alarmist headlines go back to 1991. It's all anti-Iranian proaganda.

Iran could be closer to nuclear weapon
Article from: The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
Article date: August 27, 2003
Author: DOUGLAS FRANTZ

Iran could be closer to nuclear weapon: Enriched uranium found at plant, inspectors say

By DOUGLAS FRANTZ Los Angeles Times

Wednesday, August 27, 2003

Istanbul, Turkey -- International inspectors confirmed Tuesday that particles of highly enriched uranium were discovered in two separate samples taken at a nuclear facility in Iran, raising the possibility that Tehran is further along in developing a nuclear weapon than experts had predicted.

The finding is contained in a confidential report from the International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna, Austria, which provides detailed descriptions of numerous contradictions and misstatements by Iran in recent months. A source outside the agency provided the Los Angeles Times with a copy of the report.

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Russia (and U.S.) help Iran build weapons.(nuclear weapons in Iran)

Article from: Insight on the News
Article date: February 20, 1995
Author: Phillips, James

Iran is becoming more of a nuclear threat because of Russian plans to build a nuclear power plant there and other international investment. The US should take steps to prevent this by limiting oil exports from Iran and urging other countries not to cooperate with Iran.

The Jan. 8 announcement that Russia has agreed to build a nuclear power plant in Iran has intensified concern in Washington about Tehran's determined efforts to acquire nuclear weapons. Although there is considerable uncertainty about the size and pace of Iran's nuclear program, the uncovering of Saddam Hussein's covert effort to build an Iraqi nuclear weapon underscores the danger of complacency.

Western intelligence agencies believe that Iran, like Iraq, is using its civilian nuclear program as a cover for acquiring the technology and expertise with which to build nuclear weapons.

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Reporter warns that Iran has nuclear weapons now

Article from: Cleveland Jewish News
Article date: November 11, 2005
Author: Karfeld, Marilyn H.

Cleveland Jewish News

11-11-2005

Since the end of the hostage crisis at the American embassy in Tehran in 1979, Americans have put Iran on the back burner, said investigative reporter Kenneth Timmerman.

"Iran is a clear and present danger," he recently commented to a small audience at The City Club. "This regime owes its birth to terrorism. Terrorism is public policy. And Iran has nuclear power."

Although U.S. intelligence agencies speak of Iran as a potential nuclear power, Timmerman said the evidence indicates that Iran already possesses nuclear weapons. Before Iran gives a nuclear weapon to a terrorist group intent on incinerating an American target, the U.S. should be helping democratic factions already in the Islamic nation, the journalist said.

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Officials Say Iran Is Seeking Nuclear Weapons Capability; China Sale of Equipment Worth Millions Cited

Article from: The Washington Post
Article date: October 30, 1991
Author: R. Jeffrey Smith

The U.S. intelligence community has recently concluded that Iran is aggressively seeking to develop a nuclear weapon and that China has provided Iran with equipment capable of making some fissile material for such a weapon, according to Bush administration officials.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-01-28   11:53:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Old Friend (#112)

You seem to hate many people.

Do you have any friends (besides the zionists)?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-01-28   11:54:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Old Friend (#109)

Relative to your bible babble quoting methods, evolutionary theories are truth, truth that is subject to revision by the scientific method.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scie ntific_method

The bible fairy tales about Adam & Eve in the garden of Eden are stories targeted for a childs mentality.

The earth is not 5000+ years old, and modern men didn't co-exist with dinosaurs in the Jurassic period (190 to 140 million years ago).

You don't even understand or practice the Golden Rule, a simple and fundamental ethic for real christians. Mainstream christians correctly interpret and practice the Golden Rule, but to them and your kind they are cults.

How can anyone realistically expect you to understand the scientific method, with your demonstrated contempt for logic?

For gods sake, at least use "you're" = "you are" in correct correspondence!

"Your" is not the same as "you're", but you consistently get this wrong too.

Googolplex  posted on  2009-01-28   11:55:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: TwentyTwelve (#113)

Why do you hate Iran?

Did an Iranian kid beat you up when you were a kid?

I hate any country that pushes international law. Globalization.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   11:57:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Jethro Tull (#115)

These alarmist headlines go back to 1991. It's all anti-Iranian proaganda.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-01-28   11:57:51 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Googolplex (#117)

You babbled but you didn't advance your belief an inch.

Better luck next time.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   11:58:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Jethro Tull (#115)

The U.S. intelligence community has recently concluded that Iran is aggressively seeking to develop a nuclear weapon and that China has provided Iran with equipment capable of making some fissile material for such a weapon, according to Bush administration officials.

Not only that but they have said so themselves. Said it is irreversible.

I guess theoretically they have a right to do what they want to do in their country. But when they threaten to wipe Israel off the map with these weapons. Don't be surprised when Israel nukes them out of fear.

I'm not saying it is right or wrong. Just human nature. You have an enemy developing a weapon that can utterly destroy you. A country that has threatened as much.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   12:01:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#114)

So you're a supporter of one standard for Israel and another for the rest of the world.

I'm against international law. Iran doesn't need permission to develop these weapons. But if they do they should know there will be a reaction. Maybe even a nuclear one.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   12:02:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: PSUSA (#110)

I think Old Fiend believes bible-babble because it makes him feel good, as in self-righteous good feelings.

The bible says man was created to dominate the earth, over all animal, vegetable, and mineral. It also says man was created in the image of god.

That's not chopped liver.

I'm fairly certain these ideas appeal to Old Fiend's sense of feeling good about himself.

Googolplex  posted on  2009-01-28   12:02:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#114)

So you're a supporter of one standard

I don't support any standards. No international law BS. It is incompatible with our constitution.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   12:03:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: Old Friend (#121)

Don't be surprised when Israel nukes them out of fear.

Then why isn't it kosher for Iran to nuke them out of fear?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-01-28   12:03:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: Googolplex (#123)

Go eat a banana monkey boy.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   12:03:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Old Friend (#118)

I hate any country that pushes international law.

Israel exists entirely due to international law.

Do you hate that Israel exists?

Or do you hate international law only when it does not suit your Zionazi agenda?

scrapper2  posted on  2009-01-28   12:04:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Jethro Tull (#125)

Then why isn't it kosher for Iran to nuke them out of fear?

As a human being I can see Iran thinking the same way.

But Israel has had them for 40 years and hasn't used them. So it seems Iran has a lot less to fear. Nothing to do with Kosher.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   12:05:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: scrapper2 (#127)

Israel exists entirely due to international law.

Israel was on the way to becoming a country despite the usurpation of that process by the shit sucking UN.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   12:05:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Old Friend (#122)

I'm against international law. Iran doesn't need permission to develop these weapons. But if they do they should know there will be a reaction. Maybe even a nuclear one

Then Israel should have faced the same reaction when it developed nuclear weapons. If nuclear annihilation of Iran is acceptable to you, why do you complain about people on this site who think that Israel should be annihilated?

There's no difference between them and you, just as there's no moral difference between Muslim jihadists and Zionists.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-01-28   12:08:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: Old Friend (#128)

But Israel has had them for 40 years and hasn't used them

N. Korea, India and Pakistan are new members of the nuclear club and they haven't used them, so why shouldn't Iran develop them? Who are we or Israel to limit club membership? I'd argue that nukes make nations safer, not more dangerous. See the concept of MAD (mutually assured destruction) that was very effective during the Cold War.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-01-28   12:10:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#130)

Then Israel should have faced the same reaction when it developed nuclear weapons. If nuclear annihilation of Iran is acceptable

I don't support nuking Iran. I just said it is a possibility knowing human nature.

I did say Iran should be taken out if they are pushing international law. But that doesn't mean nuked or even necessarily war.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   12:10:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: Old Friend (#129)

Israel was on the way to becoming a country despite the usurpation of that process by the shit sucking UN

Israel's creation met with the blessing of every Internationalist cabal of the 20th century from the Balfour Declaration on. It was a pet project for the League of Nations and for Truman, Marshall, and other US globalists.

The same people who helped create the UN helped to create Israel.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-01-28   12:11:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: Jethro Tull (#131)

N. Korea, India and Pakistan are new members of the nuclear club and they haven't used them, so why shouldn't Iran develop them? Who are we or Israel to limit club membership? I'd argue that nukes make nations safer, not more dangerous. See the concept of MAD (mutually assured destruction) that was very effective during the Cold War.

Maybe you are right. I'm just stating my beliefs and opinions.

There is a difference though. Israel and Jews have been threatened for centuries. It is an ongoing conflict that has no end in site.

I don't like N. Korea or Pakistan with nukes either.

India on the other hand has been responsible to date.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   12:13:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: Old Friend (#120)

You babbled but you didn't advance your belief an inch.

Better luck next time.

I'm not trying to convince you of anything, because I know what you are.

I also know it's futile to teach a pig to tell time, because it's impossible for a pig to understand the concept of time, and any method used would probably irritate a pig.

Babble-on Beelzebub bible-boy.

Seriously, you should stop claiming you are a christian, because you are an embarassment to mainstream christians, who are generally more thoughtful and considerate.

Googolplex  posted on  2009-01-28   12:13:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#133)

Israel's creation met with the blessing of every Internationalist cabal of the 20th century from the Balfour Declaration on. It was a pet project for the League of Nations and for Truman, Marshall, and other US globalists.

The same people who helped create the UN helped to create Israel.

God works in mysterious ways. Sometimes using his enemies to do his bidding.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   12:15:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Googolplex (#135)

If you want to be stupid and believe in the spontaneous generation of life from mud. Then that is your problem not mine.

Anyone who believes in the religion of evolution has a small mind indeed.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   12:16:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#133)

Israel is an experiment, a model for the so-called third way, an alternative to Nazism (racial supremacy) and Communism (proletarian supremacy).

Israel is a model experiment for new nationhood, implementing the concept of Diversity (victim supremacy).

The US has been faithfully transitioning to the Israeli Diversity model since the election of FDR.

Googolplex  posted on  2009-01-28   12:27:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: Old Friend (#137)

If you want to be stupid and believe in the spontaneous generation of life from mud. Then that is your problem not mine

As opposed to believing that Big Daddy in the Sky waved a magic wand and it was all here?

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-01-28   12:34:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: Old Friend (#137)

If you want to be stupid and believe in the spontaneous generation of life from mud. Then that is your problem not mine.

That's pretty funny, considering what it actually claims about man-mud in the genesis section of the bible.

No-one can be this dumb. You seem to be a parody of a snake-handler from Hicksville.

William Jennings Bryant was significantly more coherent than you.

Googolplex  posted on  2009-01-28   12:35:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: Googolplex (#140)

I put it that way on purpose. It wasn't spontaneous. There was a "potter" if you will.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   12:36:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#139)

No magic wand. Spoken words.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-01-28   12:37:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: Googolplex (#138)

Israel is a model experiment for new nationhood, implementing the concept of Diversity (victim supremacy).

The US has been faithfully transitioning to the Israeli Diversity model since the election of FDR.

Israel was originally supported by leftwing multiculturalists as part of the diversity and victimhood program.

Once the Israelis started brutalizing the Arabs, a lot of the multicultural left turned against Zionism. It's great to see "persecuted minorities" tear at one another. It was only a matter of time before the grand coalition of "victims" (blacks, hispanics, Jews, Muslims) came to decide that they don't like each other any more than they like "The Man."

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-01-28   12:38:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: Old Friend (#142)

No magic wand. Spoken words.

If the myths and fairy tales of 1-2K BC Middle Eastern goat herders are your source of history and science, that can't be helped.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-01-28   12:39:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: Googolplex (#123) (Edited)

I think Old Fiend believes bible-babble because it makes him feel good, as in self-righteous good feelings.

The bible says man was created to dominate the earth, over all animal, vegetable, and mineral. It also says man was created in the image of god.

That's not chopped liver.

I'm fairly certain these ideas appeal to Old Fiend's sense of feeling good about himself.

I dont know that that is right. I cant fault anyone for being a christian zionist, because I used to be one myself. Somehow I got set straight about a few things. But this being set straight did not come from another person, because I would have totally ignored that person. I reacted just like Old Friend reacts. This is why arguing with them is not effective.

It also doesn't mean that others wont see the light at a later time. Now THAT might seem arrogant. It's not. It has nothing to do with me being smarter or more valuable than anyone else. Anyone has the capacity of being used to bring others along. Using anger and name calling doesn't help matters any.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-01-28   12:53:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#143)

Judaics are not a minority inside Israel, by design. Israeli immigration policies specifically promote universal jewish naturalization, to always ensure an Israeli jewish majority. Israel allows dual nationalist jews to vote in Israeli elections, another strategy to ensure jewish dominance in Israel.

The philosophy of Diversity requires a good versus evil bifurcation of society.

The bad-guy in Israel isn't just arab gentiles, it is all gentiles.

The reason arab gentiles bear the brunt of jewish wrath is because palestinian arab gentiles resist Israeli Diversity more vigorously than any other gentiles living in or around Israel. If christians living in Israel were to vigorously demand rights, especially landowner rights same as a jewish citizen, they would get similar treatment to arab gentiles.

Muslims are not considered victim class under US-style Diversity. Muslims are generally people of color, and US-style Diversity favors people that are not white.

British and Canadian Diversity are different in details from US-style Diversity, where Muslims may indeed be recognized as victim class.

One thing is always constant in any implementation of Diversity on the planet earth....judaics are always formally recognized as victim class by a central totalitarian government.

Googolplex  posted on  2009-01-28   13:14:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: Old Friend (#129)

Israel was on the way to becoming a country despite the usurpation of that process by the shit sucking UN.

Dream along with me.

There was no there there without the UN fiat.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-01-28   19:40:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: Disgusted (#0)

WEll as it turns out, the hype was full of shit.

Who woulda thunk it Ayuck

___FIRE

titorite  posted on  2013-02-01   6:25:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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