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Title: AMERICA NEEDS A SPIRITUAL BAILOUT
Source: NewsWithViews
URL Source: http://newswithviews.com/Daubenmire/dave142.htm
Published: Jan 29, 2009
Author: Coach Dave Daubenmire
Post Date: 2009-01-30 00:40:57 by bush_is_a_moonie
Keywords: None
Views: 144
Comments: 9

With all of the talk of a financial bailout in America I thought it might be appropriate to broach the subject that perhaps America is in greater need of a Spiritual bailout. With such thievery emanating from Washington DC, Wall Street, et al, perhaps it is time for God’s people to get serious. America’s problems are Spiritual folks, not financial. The obedience of God’s people holds the key to our nation’s future.

Jesus already bailed us out once by paying our sin debt upon the cross. His death was the only way to reconcile God’s books because “the wages of sin is death. Christ picked up my “sin tab”, the fee required by God for my disobedience. Even though I am secure about my life beyond this world I sure wish He would do something about this mess we call America.

He could, you know. God is still in control and the Bible teaches that He is a loving, compassionate, forgiving Creator. But He is first and foremost “just.” He must do what He says He will do because He is bound by His Word. He puts his Word above His name. If His Word is no good, His name is no good.

Is He still gracious enough to offer us another “Spiritual bailout?” His Word says He is. Remember, He is bound by His Word. Here is His promise “If My People…”

But will America turn back to Jesus? Would God spare His Wrath towards America if we did? If a true spirit of repentance would hit the churches of this land would God hold back our much deserved spanking? He has done it before.

Michele and I were reading Lamentations 4 and 5 for our morning devotions. As we were reading it I saw a picture of modern-day America and was reminded of what Solomon had said, “There is nothing new under the sun.” It seems as if God’s people have been here before. Is it too late for us to learn from history?

I love the Word of God, especially in the rhythm and Truth of the King James Version. But this morning, after reading from the King James, I checked out Lamentations from “The Message Bible”, which is NOT a valid interpretation of the Word of God. But I feel that the descriptions written below paint a vivid picture of what the judgment of God looks like when it befalls a nation.

With a world in turmoil and teetering on the precipice of financial collapse is it possible that what the Spirit of the Lord wrote through the Prophet Jeremiah in 586 BC regarding the destruction of Jerusalem is a warning to us today of what happens when a nation forgets God? We think God loves us more because we are “Christians.”

Lamentations 4 and 5

How gold is treated like dirt, the finest gold thrown out with the garbage, priceless jewels scattered all over, jewels loose in the gutters. And the people of Zion, once prized, far surpassing their weight in gold, are now treated like cheap pottery, like everyday pots and bowls, mass-produced by a potter.

Even wild jackals nurture their babies; give them their breasts to suckle. But my people have turned cruel to their babies, like an ostrich in the wilderness. Babies have nothing to drink. Their tongues stick to the roofs of their mouths. Little children ask for bread but no one gives them so much as a crust.

People used to the finest cuisine forage for food in the streets. People used to the latest in fashions pick through the trash for something to wear. The evil guilt of my dear people was worse than the sin of Sodom—The city was destroyed in a flash, and no one around to help.

The splendid and sacred nobles once glowed with health. Their bodies were robust and ruddy, their beards like carved stone. But now they are smeared with soot, unrecognizable in the street, their bones sticking out, their skin dried out like old leather. Better to have been killed in battle than killed by starvation. Better to have died of battle wounds than to slowly starve to death.

Nice and kindly women boiled their own children for supper. This was the only food in town when my dear people were broken. God let all his anger loose, held nothing back. He poured out his raging wrath. He set a fire in Zion that burned it to the ground.

The kings of the earth couldn't believe it. World rulers were in shock, watching old enemies march in big as you please, right through Jerusalem's gates. Because of the sins of her prophets and the evil of her priests, who exploited good and trusting people, robbing them of their lives,

These prophets and priests blindly grope their way through the streets, grimy and stained from their dirty lives, wasted by their wasted lives, shuffling from fatigue, dressed in rags.

People yell at them, "Get out of here, dirty old men! Get lost, don't touch us, don't infect us!" They have to leave town. They wander off. Nobody wants them to stay here. Everyone knows, wherever they wander, that they've been kicked out of their own hometown. God himself scattered them. No longer does he look out for them. He has nothing to do with the priests; He cares nothing for the elders.

We watched and watched, wore our eyes out looking for help. And nothing. We mounted our lookouts and looked for the help that never showed up. They tracked us down, those hunters. It wasn't safe to go out in the street. Our end was near, our days numbered. We were doomed.

They came after us faster than eagles in flight, pressed us hard in the mountains, ambushed us in the desert. Our king, our life's breath, the anointed of God, was caught in their traps—Our king under whose protection we always said we'd live.

Celebrate while you can, O Edom! Live it up in Uz! For it won't be long before you drink this cup, too. You'll find out what it's like to drink God's wrath, get drunk on God's wrath and wake up with nothing, stripped naked. And that's it for you, Zion. The punishment's complete. You won't have to go through this exile again. But Edom, your time is coming: He'll punish your evil life, put all your sins on display.

"Remember, God, all we've been through. Study our plight, the black mark we've made in history. Our precious land has been given to outsiders, our homes to strangers. Orphans we are, not a father in sight, and our mothers no better than widows. We have to pay to drink our own water. Even our firewood comes at a price. We're nothing but slaves, bullied and bowed, worn out and without any rest. We sold ourselves to Assyria and Egypt just to get something to eat.

Our parents sinned and are no more, and now we're paying for the wrongs they did.

Slaves rule over us; there's no escape from their grip. We risk our lives to gather food in the bandit-infested desert. Our skin has turned black as an oven, dried out like old leather from the famine. Our wives were raped in the streets in Zion, and our virgins in the cities of Judah. They hanged our princes by their hands, dishonored our elders.

Strapping young men were put to women's work, mere boys forced to do men's work. The city gate is empty of wise elders. Music from the young is heard no more. All the joy is gone from our hearts. Our dances have turned into dirges. The crown of glory has toppled from our head.

Woe! Woe! Would that we'd never sinned! Because of all this we're heartsick; we can't see through the tears. On Mount Zion, wrecked and ruined, jackals pace and prowl. And yet, God, you're sovereign still, your throne intact and eternal. So why do you keep forgetting us? Why dump us and leave us like this?

Bring us back to you, God—we're ready to come back. Give us a fresh start. As it is, you've cruelly disowned us. You've been so very angry with us."

It starts in the pulpits my friends. The only thing that can save us from the wrath to come is a Church heart-broken over her sin-sick condition. We must put away all of the church-growth gimmicks, and seeker-sensitive slop, and cry for mercy to the only one who can stem the tide.

What if the churches in America called for a solemn fast? What if every Christian in America went a week without food…appealing to a merciful God? Perhaps if we fast and pray now, we will be able to eat in the future.

The thought of “nice and kindly” mothers eating their babies is unthinkable. So was abortion fifty years ago.

If God’s Grace is amazing, what must His wrath look like? I don’t think I want to know.

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#1. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)

Ah, I assume you are referring to the "god" of Abraham? That one? The one the Jews supposedly follow? The one that appears to condone what the Zionists are doing to the civilians of Gaza? That "god"? Tell you what, you feel free to cringe and prostrate yourself before that false "god". Me, I have better things to do.

I wonder how long it is going to take people to figure out a very simple, fundamental truth: If you believe in the "god" of any particular group, then you are going to find yourself being used and manipulated by that group. It's as simple as 1+1=2. Believe in the "god" of the Zionists, and then wonder why you are being used like a hole in the ground BY Zionists. If you are Jew, Christian or Muslim, you are a believer in the "god" of Abraham, and have been set up to fail horribly. You'll either fail as a victim of abusers, or you'll fail by becoming a vicious abuser. That's pretty much the only choices a follower of the "god" of Abraham really has. Your brain gets horribly confuzzled by nonsense, humbugs and flim-flam, and you end up either suffering unjust abuse or inflicting unjust abuse. Gosh, what a great "god" was conceived by that filthy desert schizophrenic Abraham. What a wonderful curse was unleashed on the planet by his disease. It's just a damn shame they didn't have antipsychotic medications back then, it would have saved the planet a lot of misery.

So, in a nutshell, here's my three step program for casting off the shackles and learning how to create a better life and world: Step one - ditch the false "god" of the people abusing you. Step two - ditch the people abusing you. Step three - stand on your own two legs, use your brain, and figure out when you're being shamboozled, used, abused and lied to.

Or, spend the rest of your life on your knees, shivering and cringing and begging for mercy from those who are repeatedly abusing you. Your choice...

Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2009-01-30   1:18:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Elliott Jackalope (#1)

If you are Jew, Christian or Muslim, you are a believer in the "god" of Abraham, and have been set up to fail horribly. You'll either fail as a victim of abusers, or you'll fail by becoming a vicious abuser. That's pretty much the only choices a follower of the "god" of Abraham really has. Your brain gets horribly confuzzled by nonsense, humbugs and flim-flam, and you end up either suffering unjust abuse or inflicting unjust abuse. Gosh, what a great "god" was conceived by that filthy desert schizophrenic Abraham. What a wonderful curse was unleashed on the planet by his disease. It's just a damn shame they didn't have antipsychotic medications back then, it would have saved the planet a lot of misery.

So, in a nutshell, here's my three step program for casting off the shackles and learning how to create a better life and world: Step one - ditch the false "god" of the people abusing you. Step two - ditch the people abusing you. Step three - stand on your own two legs, use your brain, and figure out when you're being shamboozled, used, abused and lied to.

Or, spend the rest of your life on your knees, shivering and cringing and begging for mercy from those who are repeatedly abusing you. Your choice...

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"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx

You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace

ALAS, BABYLON

IndieTX  posted on  2009-01-30   2:24:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Elliott Jackalope, bush_is_a_moonie, IndieTX, All (#1)

So, in a nutshell, here's my three step program for casting off the shackles and learning how to create a better life and world: Step one - ditch the false "god" of the people abusing you.

Zionists have no God.

Step two - ditch the people abusing you.

Did that years ago

Step three - stand on your own two legs, use your brain, and figure out when you're being shamboozled, used, abused and lied to.

Did that years ago too.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-01-30   8:41:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Elliott Jackalope (#1)

Do Unto Others Before They Do It Unto You Rant

and your rant is excellent, sir.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-01-30   8:42:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Elliott Jackalope (#1)

You'll either fail as a victim of abusers, or you'll fail by becoming a vicious abuser.

All Mr. Nature cares about is whether it helps you have kids.

Orthodox Judaism == Yes
Other Judaism == No
Evangelical Protestant Christianity == Yes
Catholicism == Yes
Other Christianity == No
Islam == Yes
Atheism == No

And BTW, TANJ. Not in a cosmic sense. No such thing as the good. All there is, is (multiple) Pareto optima; therefore most ethical (and ethnic) argument reduces to raw contests of power -- in which ethical argument is a tactic.

The memory of the Heroic Age was eagerly seized by all who could take power, by fair means or foul, but that age could not be recaptured, and despite the temporary improvements... the racial material on which they had to work was of little value, and their efforts bore no fruit after their own demise.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-01-30   10:33:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)

If Jesus' priests will stop being indifferent to the fate of the white man as white man, then I am his.

The memory of the Heroic Age was eagerly seized by all who could take power, by fair means or foul, but that age could not be recaptured, and despite the temporary improvements... the racial material on which they had to work was of little value, and their efforts bore no fruit after their own demise.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-01-30   10:40:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#6)

If Jesus' priests will stop being indifferent to the fate of the white man as white man, then I am his.

Maybe Ted Pike is your man. I was going to post this, but I don't have time to monitor it, and I don't agree with everything he is saying here by a long shot, but I have wondered why the Jews consider whites their biggest enemies, on a par with Christianity. Without further ado....and this is sure to start some fireworks, somewhere:

IS OBAMA FULFILLING BIBLE PROPHECY?

By Rev. Ted Pike
29 Jan 09

www.truthtellers.org/aler...mafullfillingprophecy.htm

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-01-30   10:54:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)

It starts in the pulpits my friends. The only thing that can save us from the wrath to come is a Church heart-broken over her sin-sick condition. We must put away all of the church-growth gimmicks, and seeker-sensitive slop, and cry for mercy to the only one who can stem the tide.

What if the churches in America called for a solemn fast? What if every Christian in America went a week without food…appealing to a merciful God? Perhaps if we fast and pray now, we will be able to eat in the future.

Those are good ideas. Would the churches do it? Probably not. They are too busy being waylaid by Pharisees in sheep's clothing, looking for prophecy being fulfilled by "Jews" in "Israel", not realizing they, and America are Israel, and prophecy is being fulfilled in them, and God has already started sifting the wheat from the tares.

http://kingjbible.com/ezekiel/20.htm :33-38.

http://kingjbible.com/micah/4.htm :9-13.

Ezekiel 38-39, Revelation 20:7-10.

Matthew Henry : bible.cc/isaiah/14-25.htm

The upshot will be for those who make the cut:

bible.cc/isaiah/61-7.htm

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-01-30   11:20:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#7)

Not my cup of tea. Universalism is blockheadish IMO, and besides, I don't want negro servants.

I like the gospel according to Matthew, and there is wisdom in the Psalms, but Celtic paganism and Asatru perhaps have more attraction. I first read about them a few months ago, and there was a recognition -- ah ha! I know exactly what they are talking about! Especially:

1. An underlying, all-pervading divine energy or essence which is generally hidden from us, and which is beyond our immediate understanding.

2. Sacred places are found not created.

There's a sense I get in certain places, mostly natural places, some old man-made places. Best I can put it into words is "there is mana here." Christian churches can have it, too.

3. Not much concerned with the afterlife.

4. Celtic Pagans see their cosmos as being comprised of the Three Realms: Land, Sky and Sea. There are also the three planes of existance: ThisWorld, the Otherworld, and the Underworld.

5. Where the Wiccan ideal of the cosmos is based primarily on duality (twos: The God and Goddess, Male and Female, Light and Dark) and quadrality (fours: The Four Elements, The Four Seasons), the Celtic cosmos and most aspects of the religion are triune in nature ( based on threes) or rely on odd numbers as models of balance.

(This may explain the attraction of the Christian trinity to the white man.)

6. "The Celts did indeed place a high value on individualism, but tied very closely to that was their duty to their families and tribe. Their individualism was allowed to flourish *because* of the safety and comfort their close-knit communities, thus the importance of the survival of the 'all' was greater than the importance of the self. This is difficult for most of us to understand today, as most of us grow up in small families in separate home with little connection to the rest of the family or community."

7. The very foundation of Celtic culture was the home. The hearth was the cornerstone of the spirituality of the people. In Celtic religions great emphasis is placed on the sanctity of the home, and strength of the family.

8. "We do not claim to be a universal religion or a faith for all of humankind. In fact, we don't think such a thing is possible or desirable. The different branches of humanity have different ways of looking at the world, each of which is valid for them. It is only right that they have different religions, which of course they do. "

The memory of the Heroic Age was eagerly seized by all who could take power, by fair means or foul, but that age could not be recaptured, and despite the temporary improvements... the racial material on which they had to work was of little value, and their efforts bore no fruit after their own demise.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-01-30   11:51:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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