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Post Date: 2009-01-30 13:03:06 by James Deffenbach
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Title: Taking A Break Source: war URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org Published: Jan 29, 2009 Author: war Post Date: 2009-01-29 10:06:22 by war 210 Comments After some deliberation, which was made more intense by Suzanne L's farewell post to me this AM, I have decided to take a break from regular posting here. There are just too many racists that have crawled out of the woodwork and have found a comfortable home here for my liking. There are too many racist statements that are being made and, worse, allowed to remain permanently. My association with such posters, in my mind, is a de facto sanction of rheir behavior. And while I have confronted it as much as possible, it’s increasingly apparent that it’s just not a battle that can be won here. So, given this, I refuse to continue in that mode. I will be a lurker...this still remains a good clearing house for news articles both mainstream and fringe but my posting is going to decrease markedly from here on out. I have been thinking about this for a few weeks now and the ever repetitive, ever increasing derogatory references to Obama based solely on his race have just become too deleterious to any semblance of, even a modicum of, rational debate. Goldi, herself, a few weeks ago, expressed exasperation that other sites have negatively characterized LP. Given the epidemic of overt racism that is allowed to be expressed here and has been given a permanent berth once it has been expressed, in my mind, justifies those characterizations. Good luck everyone...it's been fun here...I wish EVERYONE health, prosperity and peace. --war war posted on 2009-01-29 10:07:52 ET Reply Trace There are just too many racists This happens to liberals during their final mental disintergation. They see racists everywhere. Or homophobes. Or antisemites. Whoever the enemy de jour is. Important thing is to make sure leftists suffering from this do not isolate themselves in places such as Guyana . That is when what is personally destructive can become an epidemic of insantity. Also important for other leftists to reach out and reassure an afflicted leftist that many of those "racists" or whatever are fellow leftists acting as agents provocateurs (very common on Liberty Forum). Essex posted on 2009-01-29 10:16:11 ET Reply Trace
Poster Comment: I left the comment by Essex (whoever he is) because I thought it was way funny.
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#73. To: scrapper2 (#72)
Partisans are blind and deaf sheep.
Go Pat Go!!!! old friend! Yeah, I gave out so many clues earlier on this thread about my long-time screen name that even Roy Orbison, Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder could figure it out. I understand your wrath for the GOP. Once Duncan Hunter withdrew from the primary, I threatened to do the same thing out of pure vengeance. But when McCain picked Palin for a running mate, I figured she was worth voting for, even though I couldn't stomach McCain. So like you, I suppose I find some degree of satisfaction that the Obamanoids have wrestled power away from the backstabbing, neocon-globalist Free Traitors in the GOP. But I certainly don't expect them to do anything that'll fix the economic mess that the country is in. At best, The Pigmented Messiah might actually build the Maglev I've been waiting for all these years as one of his infrastructure projects. That will help. But any benefits from infrastructure improvements are going to be far outweighed by his silly social service sector inititiatives. Those "investments" might produce some illusion of prosperity by keeping some WalMarts open, or some ghetto neighborhood abortion clinics and liquor stores. But those kind of businesses don't produce any lasting benefit, and the money will simply go flowing back to China while we sink even deeper into debt than we already are. Not much to cheer about these days...
Ah.....Arator. Rooting? We aren't talking about the Kansas City Chiefs, or Penn State football. Since when did "rooting" for either wing of the National Political Bird become an option for an informed individual? Your interesting choice of words is revealing; your once rational thought process has been reduced to the very sheeple-like choice between an R or D. Unfortunately with either we're talking about socialism and the ever growing central government they promise. The “team” (a Clinton 3rd term) that you cheer on will eventually imprison us all with a continued flood of illegal aliens, high taxes, and layers of draconian law. And have I mentioned the certainty of more ILLEGAL war coming from your guys? Please tell us what Afghanistan did to us and why Obama is intent on ramping up that mess? So break out the pom-poms and cheer your boys to victory and remember, your absence here isn't related to heresy, it's about an inability to logically defend your support for Team Obama. Go Steelers!
Why, they hate us for our freeeeeedoms, Citizen Tull, and as you know, Messiah O'boingo will spare no expense in protecting our freeeeedoms.
Oh yeah, and Afghanistan has repeatedly said that they're going to wipe Israel off the face of the map. So there.
Jeez....that sure sounds familiar, eh? Until Arator, and others who voted for the coming incineration of Afghanistan, personally put some skin in the game of war, their actions are no different than that of the FReeper rear guard.
They definitely are giving Jonestown a run for their money. Shoot, I'd offer everything I possess to purchase all known stores of Kool-Aid if I could be assured that the world socialist tools would drink it !! There you go. Even if we needed to do a "whip round" (a phrase that means to collect money for some cause, something they say in England), I think a lot of people would donate.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. We overestimated a hell of a lot of people. Most in fact.
4um Traitor The end difference between a bushbot and a ratbot is the length of pain before grizzly death. They're all worthless as far as America is concerened. Worse than worthless.
4um Traitor A more worthy cause I couldn't think of.
4um Traitor He's an Obama supporter, right? I can't fathom the thinking that leads somebody who supported Buchanan or Ron Paul to become an Obamaphile. But as far as I'm concerned, Old Right Buchananites and Ron Paul libertarians turned "liberal" Obummerites are no more perverse than those who hopped aboard the Mad Mac/Caribou Barbie neocon bandwagon.
That's the road he traveled. It can't be logically defended, hence the retreat of the Os.
Agreed, and the fact that they could hop on EITHER one of the Globalist NEOCON wagons tells me they weren't ever on the same page with Pat or Ron (or that they were some of the duller and weaker instruments).
4um Traitor There's no way Marg and Veronica are the same person, is there? Are you sure?
He's an Obama supporter, right? I can't fathom the thinking that leads somebody who supported Buchanan or Ron Paul to become an Obamaphile. That's messed-up. Yes, where HAVE the sorry SOB's who voted for "Change!!"TM gone?? Maybe they're going over THEIR old tax returns to see if they made any "honest mistakes" :-)
_________________________________________________________________________ Veronica? I know that name. She's is the worst kind of back stabber. She was an avid Clown Posse poster then went back and kissed JimRobs feet to be let back into the FR fold. I'm sure she is the one who pointed out my CP posts that got me banned. Not that I miss FR or CP for that matter.
Hey there stranger! Interesting info. That would be the same Veronica, but I doubt she is Marg over at LP.
The way people change their names and bounce around it is hard to say. I don't know Marg. Probably won't recognize Veronica's posting style either. Never was good at that.
i have read a significant number of posts affirming that. i have never seen Marguerite deny it.
I don't recall ever having the pleasure of confronting Veronica in her native personna, but I HAVE had some exchanges with Marguerite, who is one of the most dispicable pieces of shit I've ever run across. She attacks those who try to defend themselves against the foul postings of Byteshredder, where even if the victim just posts some rather civil response in defense of themselves, she hops all over that person by quoting Goldi's "rules on civility", but totally ignores the most obscene and profane attacks upon that person perpetrated by Byteshredder. It's quite obvious that Byteshredder is just another stranded Clowne with no other place to disrupt, yet apparently Goldi welcomes his sort of vile antangonism along with Marguerite's profound hypocrisy.
BTW, I've heard that Veronica also went by other handles such as jazzfan and languid. I do recall running into languid on a few occasions, but that poster didn't seem to be as whacked as Marguerite. I don't think Marguerite is the same person, she seems to act more like an Israeli intelligence operative (Mossad/Military/???) than a casual poster.
While Veronica reincarnated herself as jazzfan and lanquid, I do not believe she is also Marguerite for the simple fact that Veronica/jazzfan/lanquid could not go a day without calling someone an anti-semite for disagreeing with her (and it didn't even have to be Jew/Israel related). Marg is despicable in her own right.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope
I liked war, even though we rarely agreed on anything. As for Essex, he's your typical TOS1/TOS2 republicrat. You either lick the ass of George Bush and the republicrat party and like it or you are a liberal. It's balck and white in his partisan pea brain. He even has the audacity to try to blame the Bush/republicrat spending extravaganza on the democans. He's obviously a contortionist in his spare time and personal responsibility is not his strong point.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope
Now that DOES sound like Veronica. Actually makes sense if Byte is who I've been told he is. Makes a lot of sense.
YEs she was jazzfan on CP.
As for Essex, he's your typical TOS1/TOS2 republicrat. You either lick the ass of George Bush and the republicrat party and like it or you are a liberal. It's balck and white in his partisan pea brain. He even has the audacity to try to blame the Bush/republicrat spending extravaganza on the democans. He's obviously a contortionist in his spare time and personal responsibility is not his strong point. And war was/is his mirror opposite, at least from what I have read of his posts. People like the Clintons and Obama could do no wrong because they had a D after their name. I pity people who think like that, no matter which of the letters they think is so great.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. So who do you think Bite is, Jim Robinson perhaps?
No, nor can I remember his name. Someone here told me who he was. My vague recollection was that he was a minor player in the Party, a big wig wanna be. Perhaps someone who knows can PM you. Anyway, it makes sense that Kool-Aide drinkers would want to kiss his ass. Me? I don't give a shit who someone is or what their position is. If they are an ass I say so. I never did like Byte and I took a lot of heat for calling him on his crap! I even have some of those threads saved.
There's no way Marg and Veronica are the same person, is there? Are you sure? Possible. The other possibility is that she is the person who posted as Isobel_K on Liberty Forum. The similarities are interesting anyway.
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
I know.
Good, could up PM me so I can get my story straight. I hate going off my faulty memory.
LOL...paranoid much?!
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Oops. That wasn't a pm.
That wasn't a pm. snickering
I know Veronica is languid on LP. She rarely posts there. I don't think she's also Marg but I thought I could be wrong. Then again, one never really knows.
LOL no, one doesn't. I see so many new names here. I know some must be the same ole people posting under new handles but I was never good at figuring that out. I don't remember Marg, she must not have been posting there when I was.
She's an annoying little twit that bozos anyone who disagrees with her on topics she has no defense to. She can't have a civil debate and present factual data to support her position.
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#74. To: Cynicom (#73)
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#75. To: Arator (#70)
Are you an old time FReeper? Do I know you?
Except, of course, that I know the backstabbing GOP weasels are gonna be hurt worse than me. LOL!
And maybe I might finally get to see a Maglev built in the short number of years I have left to live on this planet.
#76. To: Arator, Skinny Boochub, all (#70)
I'm actively rooting for
#77. To: Jethro Tull (#76)
Please tell us what Afghanistan did to us and why Obama is intent on ramping up that mess?
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#78. To: All (#77)
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#79. To: Esso, Arator, all (#77)
Why, they hate us for our freeeeeedoms, Citizen Tull, and as you know, Messiah O'boingo will spare no expense in protecting our freeeeedoms
#80. To: Rotara (#69)
LOL !
Lord Acton
#81. To: Jethro Tull (#76)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#82. To: Jethro Tull (#79)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#83. To: James Deffenbach (#80)
There you go. Even if we needed to do a "whip round" (a phrase that means to collect money for some cause, something they say in England), I think a lot of people would donate.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#84. To: Jethro Tull (#43)
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I don't expect to see Arator anytime soon. He has literally turned to the dark side.
#85. To: Rupert_Pupkin, Arator (#84)
I can't fathom the thinking that leads somebody who supported Buchanan or Ron Paul to become an Obamaphile.
#86. To: Rupert_Pupkin, Arator (#84)
But as far as I'm concerned, Old Right Buchananites and Ron Paul libertarians turned "liberal" Obummerites are no more perverse than those who hopped aboard the Mad Mac/Caribou Barbie neocon bandwagon.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#87. To: Original_Intent (#13)
Marguerite a.k.a. Veronica, another Israeli Propagandist, known liar, and anti-arab racist
#88. To: Rupert_Pupkin, Jethro Tull (#84)
Arator
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#89. To: mel_living, Original_Intent (#87)
There's no way Marg and Veronica are the same person, is there? Are you sure?
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who
#90. To: farmfriend (#89)
#91. To: mel_living (#90)
That would be the same Veronica, but I doubt she is Marg over at LP.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who
#92. To: mel_living, Fred Mertz, FormerLurker (#87)
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Marguerite a.k.a. Veronica
#93. To: christine, mel_living, Fred Mertz (#92)
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i have read a significant number of posts affirming that. i have never seen Marguerite deny it.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#94. To: christine (#92)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#95. To: mel_living, Original_Intent (#87)
There's no way Marg and Veronica are the same person, is there? Are you sure?
#96. To: James Deffenbach (#0)
#97. To: FormerLurker, mel_living (#93)
but I HAVE had some exchanges with Marguerite, who is one of the most dispicable pieces of shit I've ever ran across. She attacks those who try to defend themselves against the foul postings of Byteshredder, where even if the victim just posts some rather civil response in defense of themselves,
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who
#98. To: FormerLurker, christine, mel_living (#94)
BTW, I've heard that Veronica also went by other handles such as jazzfan and languid.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who
#99. To: Original_Intent, FormerLurker (#13)
infantile Byteshredder with his unoriginal manipulations
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who
#100. To: Hayek Fan (#96)
I liked war, even though we rarely agreed on anything.
Lord Acton
#101. To: farmfriend (#97)
Now that DOES sound like Veronica. Actually makes sense if Byte is who I've been told he is. Makes a lot of sense.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#102. To: FormerLurker (#101)
So who do you think Bite is, Jim Robinson perhaps?
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who
#103. To: mel_living (#87)
Marguerite a.k.a. Veronica, another Israeli Propagandist, known liar, and anti-arab racist
#104. To: farmfriend, FormerLurker (#102)
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all
#105. To: wudidiz (#104)
I know.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who
#106. To: FormerLurker (#94)
"Marguerite...seems to act more like an Israeli intelligence operative (Mossad/Military/???) than a casual poster."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#107. To: farmfriend (#105)
(Edited)
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all
#108. To: wudidiz (#107)
Oops.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who
#109. To: farmfriend (#108)
#110. To: mel_living (#109)
Then again, one never really knows.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who
#111. To: FormerLurker (#93)
I HAVE had some exchanges with Marguerite, who is one of the most dispicable pieces of shit I've ever run across. She attacks those who try to defend themselves against the foul postings of Byteshredder, where even if the victim just posts some rather civil response in defense of themselves, she hops all over that person by quoting Goldi's "rules on civility", but totally ignores the most obscene and profane attacks upon that person perpetrated by Byteshredder.
#112. To: war (#0)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
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