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Title: War's Opus On LP
Source: LP
URL Source: [None]
Published: Jan 30, 2009
Author: war
Post Date: 2009-01-30 13:03:06 by James Deffenbach
Keywords: None
Views: 1965
Comments: 112

Title: Taking A Break Source: war URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org Published: Jan 29, 2009 Author: war Post Date: 2009-01-29 10:06:22 by war 210 Comments

After some deliberation, which was made more intense by Suzanne L's farewell post to me this AM, I have decided to take a break from regular posting here.

There are just too many racists that have crawled out of the woodwork and have found a comfortable home here for my liking. There are too many racist statements that are being made and, worse, allowed to remain permanently. My association with such posters, in my mind, is a de facto sanction of rheir behavior. And while I have confronted it as much as possible, it’s increasingly apparent that it’s just not a battle that can be won here.

So, given this, I refuse to continue in that mode. I will be a lurker...this still remains a good clearing house for news articles both mainstream and fringe but my posting is going to decrease markedly from here on out. I have been thinking about this for a few weeks now and the ever repetitive, ever increasing derogatory references to Obama based solely on his race have just become too deleterious to any semblance of, even a modicum of, rational debate.

Goldi, herself, a few weeks ago, expressed exasperation that other sites have negatively characterized LP. Given the epidemic of overt racism that is allowed to be expressed here and has been given a permanent berth once it has been expressed, in my mind, justifies those characterizations.

Good luck everyone...it's been fun here...I wish EVERYONE health, prosperity and peace.

--war


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war posted on 2009-01-29 10:07:52 ET Reply Trace


2. To: war (#0)

There are just too many racists

This happens to liberals during their final mental disintergation. They see racists everywhere. Or homophobes. Or antisemites. Whoever the enemy de jour is.

Important thing is to make sure leftists suffering from this do not isolate themselves in places such as Guyana . That is when what is personally destructive can become an epidemic of insantity.

Also important for other leftists to reach out and reassure an afflicted leftist that many of those "racists" or whatever are fellow leftists acting as agents provocateurs (very common on Liberty Forum).

Essex posted on 2009-01-29 10:16:11 ET Reply Trace


Poster Comment:

I left the comment by Essex (whoever he is) because I thought it was way funny.

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#6. To: Jethro Tull (#4)

This poster "war" should have booted long ago by Goldi, who herself is a racist by definition, in her hatred for Palestinians.

Goldi is a hater first class.

Anti-semitism is an intimidation weapon wielded by Jews that hate everyone else

I do not recall any site being labeled anti-goyism...

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-30   13:46:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Cynicom (#6)

I do not recall any site being labeled anti-goyism...

Good point, and a clear indicator as to who wields the racism club over people's heads.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-01-30   13:57:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: gengis gandhi (#2)

i can only guess, since i don't really read anything but the odd article or two there, but i suppose by racist he is referring to any criticism of israel's zionist government?

No, he's been critical of Israel's actions so he's not an Israbot - just an addled Oh'bummer worshipper.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-01-30   13:59:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

Dear war:

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-01-30   13:59:47 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Jethro Tull (#7)

It's been my experience that about 20% of the people I've encountered are racists.

The other 80% are liars.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-01-30   14:01:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: X-15 (#9)

Yeah, me too.

I just love it when people try and leave a board in a blaze of self righteous glory.

It's so much better to just leave. It's not like individuals are missed anyway.

.

Click for Privacy and Preparedness filesPhotobucket

PSUSA  posted on  2009-01-30   14:04:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Esso (#10)

It's been my experience that about 20% of the people I've encountered are racists.

The other 80% are liars.

Indeed, always that way.

People ask me to deny I am a racist, I agree because I prefer my own white race.So that makes me a racist.

I dont know many people white or of color that do not prefer their own race. To prove anyone is not a racist, they would have to seek out and marry a person with or without color. That does not happen with any race.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-01-30   14:10:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: James Deffenbach, all (#0)

Too bad - one of the saner voices left on LP.

Mostly what it is now is a "Megaphone" Site for the current Israeli Propaganda.

Who are the most prominent posters there:

The ever infantile Byteshredder with his unoriginal manipulations and tasteless commentary, a known liar and anti-arab racist pig.

yukon - a Sterno addled Israbot who contributes very little of any merit but simply specializes in attacking anyone who is critical of Israel's War Crimes - and pushes the Official 911 Fairy Tale - Disinformation.

Whitesands a.k.a. 'botsands - another Israeli Propagandist, known liar, and anti-arab racist.

Marguerite a.k.a. Veronica, another Israeli Propagandist, known liar, and anti-arab racist.

Mad Dog: Another Israeli Propagandist, known liar, and anti-arab racist.

GarySpFc: Another Israeli Propaganist, known liar, and anti-arab racist.

Goldi-Pox Site Owner, virulent racist Sweathog, anti-american propagandist.

However, it has become known that the site is little better than a hate site that specializes in pushing Israeli/Jewish Racism and justifying mass murder as sound policy. LP's Alexa rating has dropped off the map. At one time, before she started banning those who brought sound commentary which named Israel for the murderous racist STATE it is it was climbing. Now it has collapsed and is increasingly viewed as little better than a Propaganda Outlet dedicated to justifying war and murder against all of the Jewish Zionists perceived enemies - i.e., anyone who is not Jewish. In other words the lunatics are running the asylum.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-01-30   14:16:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Esso (#10)

The other 80% are liars.

Isn't it rich that within this larger block of liars, there exists no liberals, no politicians, no Jews, and no certainly no minorities. They are the smug among us; each prone to congratulating each other on their purity.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-01-30   14:20:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: PSUSA (#11)

I just love it when people try and leave a board in a blaze of self righteous glory.

It's so much better to just leave. It's not like individuals are missed anyway.

Because it is a lot of fun to stick your finger in their eye. I went back under another account, after I was banned for demonstrating that Goldi-Pox IS a hypocrite and an Israel Firster, and made a couple of posts that attracted a fair amount of attention and were quite uncomfortable for Goldi-hog. She didnt' catch both of them and one is still in the archives.

I posted a very insulting Opus in the hallowed "Breaking Wind" ticker. It was great fun and it stayed up for about 6 hours before the Israbots managed to flag her onto it and she deleted it.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-01-30   14:21:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Original_Intent (#15)

Because it is a lot of fun to stick your finger in their eye.

I can see that. Especially after getting the boot.

I've done that myself, getting banned intentionally by poking certain people in the eye. (if you call bushbot neocons and LEO bootlickers "people"). That is fun and it's right out in the open where everyone can see it.

Click for Privacy and Preparedness filesPhotobucket

PSUSA  posted on  2009-01-30   14:48:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: James Deffenbach, JETHRO TULL, disgusted, rotara, psusa (#0) (Edited)

There are just too many racists that have crawled out of the woodwork and have found a comfortable home here for my liking.

Ahhh an Omessiah worshipper white guilter type perhaps???
Edit: No elaboration required. Bozod for good measure.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition


"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx

You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace

ALAS, BABYLON

IndieTX  posted on  2009-01-30   14:56:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: IndieTX, christiine, anyone (#17)

Has there ever been a 'banning' here? I know that some posters have been hammered beyond belief, but has christine ever dropped the terminal hammer on anyone?

Thanks.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-01-30   16:40:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: All, christine (#18)

Apologies for the new-age spelling of the owner's name.

Perhaps I should select a tad larger font.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-01-30   16:42:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: lodwick (#18)

Has there ever been a 'banning' here?

Not sure, but it would have to rise to a Charlie Manson-like outrage.

Most overt psychotics self banish in favor of a highly moderated atmosphere.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-01-30   16:48:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: lodwick (#18)

A while back she sent "wadosy" packing.

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-01-30   16:59:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: X-15, JT, christine, all (#21)

Man - I don't even remember that actor.

I just checked my Bozo Filter and there are zero posters there...for whatever that's worth.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-01-30   17:08:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: lodwick (#22)

Here's where christine reached her breaking point:

freedom4um.com/cgi- bin/re...rtNum=89400&Disp=395#C395

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-01-30   17:18:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: X-15, christine (#23)

Thanks - classic christine. When it's over, it's over.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-01-30   17:47:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: gengis gandhi (#2)

i can only guess, since i don't really read anything but the odd article or two there, but i suppose by racist he is referring to any criticism of israel's zionist government?

No, but he loves Obama and can't tolerate much criticism of him. You figure it out, I can't.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-01-30   18:20:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Jethro Tull, lodwick (#20)

Has there ever been a 'banning' here?

Not sure, but it would have to rise to a Charlie Manson-like outrage.

Willie Green was banned, but that was only because the grizzly old coot was steadfastly intolerant of the fringe lunatics who insisted that he was a bushbot.

I gotta admit, I admired him for that.

;^)

Skinny Boochub  posted on  2009-01-30   19:41:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: lodwick, X-15 (#24) (Edited)

Thanks - classic christine. When it's over, it's over.

I missed that one. Must've been when I was dumping threads as soon as they hit 50 replies. That thread seems to be a good example of why I was doing that.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-01-30   19:43:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Skinny Boochub (#26)

Willie liked war.

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Post Date:  2005-07-26  17:25:05   From: Willie Green   To: Jhoffa_

Debate on 4um censorship--Weigh In! (#207) [Full Thread]
Post Date:  2005-07-26  17:10:14   From: Willie Green   To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut

Debate on 4um censorship--Weigh In! (#200) [Full Thread]
Post Date:  2005-07-26  16:38:48   From: Willie Green   To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut

Debate on 4um censorship--Weigh In! (#198) [Full Thread]
Post Date:  2005-07-26  16:27:27   From: Willie Green   To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut

Debate on 4um censorship--Weigh In! (#194) [Full Thread]
Post Date:  2005-07-26  16:06:52   From: Willie Green   To: Jethro Tull

Debate on 4um censorship--Weigh In! (#185) [Full Thread]
Post Date:  2005-07-26  15:28:54   From: Willie Green   To: Dakmar, Jethro Tull

Debate on 4um censorship--Weigh In! (#180) [Full Thread]
Post Date:  2005-07-26  15:11:16   From: Willie Green   To: Neil McIver, christine, lodwick, Jethro Tull

Halting the sellout and selloff of America should unite both liberals and conservatives (#1) [Full Thread]
Post Date:  2005-07-16  14:15:47   From: Willie Green   To: christine

Halting the sellout and selloff of America should unite both liberals and conservatives (Article) [Full Thread]
Post Date:  2005-07-16  14:09:38   From: Willie Green   To: All

China: Why Won't the GOP Defend U.S. National Security? (Article) [Full Thread]
Post Date:  2005-07-03  11:00:57   From: Willie Green   To: All

For farmers, CAFTA keeps sounding worse (#4) [Full Thread]
Post Date:  2005-06-30  22:54:26   From: Willie Green   To: christine

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Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-01-30   19:52:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Jethro Tull (#28)

Willie liked war.

Willie and war had a lot in common since they were both from the 'Burgh.
But war was a South Side Liberal and Willie was a North Suburb conservative, so there were some mighty big differences of opinion, too.
Just the same, Willie was sorry to see war opus. He may have been a lib, but he was better than Boteye.

Skinny Boochub  posted on  2009-01-30   20:04:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Skinny Boochub (#29)

JT didn't mean war, the poster. he meant war as in the phoney WOT and Iraq and, yes, that made him a 'bot to the "lunatic fringe" here. but that isn't the reason he was banned. no one gets banned for their opinions.

christine  posted on  2009-01-30   20:18:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Skinny Boochub, Arator (#29)

Willie was PSU grad, so we'd chat some about football. We also fought the good fight on tFR w/Buchanan ran against the empty suit Dole n '96. Willie had the free trade issue nailed, which made the Rs uneasy. IIRC, Arator was normal then too :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-01-30   20:19:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: christine (#30)

Well I didn't sign up to argue about war or why Willie was banned.
it's just that I couldn't resist reminding them of someone who was banned that they forgot about.

Truth is, I'm tired of all that poo flinging, and I'm just snooping around to see if anybody is over hear bragging about the "nigga" threads that are smearing Goldi's place. And since I don't see any thread over here actively encouraging that nonsense, I'll go elsewhere and leave you guys in peace.

Not sure who's doing that kind of stuff nowadays. At least not since the Clown Posse disappeared.
Do you have any suggestions where malicious posters like that might hang out?

Skinny Boochub  posted on  2009-01-30   20:32:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Jethro Tull (#4)

I wonder if "war" takes exception to the alien-flag-waving illegals, as they snarl at white man, saying something like "Let me into your prosperous country, you damned racist xenophobe."

Not that I have read all of his posts and I could have missed it I suppose but none of his posts I ever read condemned the invasion or the invaders.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-01-30   20:36:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: X-15 (#9)

LOL!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-01-30   20:37:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Original_Intent (#13)

Too bad - one of the saner voices left on LP.

The poster who goes by the name war is "one of the saner voices left on LP"? Well, I guess it is like Shirley Q. Liquor says, "to each they own" but he sure never struck me as being all that sane. Ever see him say anything against the illegal invaders? I haven't.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-01-30   20:39:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Jethro Tull (#31)

We also fought the good fight on tFR w/Buchanan ran against the empty suit Dole n '96.

Yes, those were the good old days, but Willie didn't sign up at FR until May of '98. So PJB was actually running Third Party against Bush and Algore.

Arator was normal then too

LOL!!! Yeah, I suppose so...
Tell Arator that Skinny Boochub says "hi" when you see him.

Skinny Boochub  posted on  2009-01-30   20:40:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: IndieTX (#17)

Ahhh an Omessiah worshipper white guilter type perhaps???

Yeah, I guess he is eat up with that white guilt insanity. Seems like a lot of folks are and it sure tickles commies like Obama.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-01-30   20:41:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Skinny Boochub (#32)

And since I don't see any thread over here actively encouraging that nonsense, I'll go elsewhere and leave you guys in peace.

Not sure who's doing that kind of stuff nowadays. At least not since the Clown Posse disappeared. Do you have any suggestions where malicious posters like that might hang out?

sorry, i don't understand what it is you're asking or looking for. can you clarify?

christine  posted on  2009-01-30   20:47:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: christine (#38)

sorry, i don't understand what it is you're asking or looking for. can you clarify?

Goldi is apparently busy with her personal life offline and doesn't have time to clean up the trash. So right now, some adolescent who calls itself "nigga2009" is spamming LP with a bunch of threads like: WHY DO NIGGERS SMELL LIKE s**t? and Niggers really are some dumb motherf**kers.

I know you have your disagreements with Goldi.
But I think that you'll agree that this kind of posting assault against a forum is maliciously adolescent and doesn't really qualify as an honest expression of opinion.

So since you all have been "around" just as long as I have, I was just wondering if you might have an idea where this attack might be coming from.

Skinny Boochub  posted on  2009-01-30   21:05:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Skinny Boochub (#39)

ah. i just took a look. i have no idea who that is and i agree with you. it's disgusting. now i'm curious. who are you? ;)

christine  posted on  2009-01-30   21:16:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Skinny Boochub (#39)

A emotional disinformationalist is my guess.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-01-30   21:22:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Skinny Boochub (#32)

Do you have any suggestions where malicious posters like that might hang out?

Little Green Footballs a.k.a. Israbot Central

OR

Free Republic a.k.a. Freeptardia, a.k.a. Afghoulistan, a.k.a. Freepistan, a.k.a. Fraud Republic, a.k.a. Zionist Republic, a.k.a. Droolistan, a.k.a. Freeptard Rezpublik, a.k.a. Stasi Wannabes, a.k.a. ...

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-01-30   21:23:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Skinny Boochub (#36)

but Willie didn't sign up at FR until May of '98

The Buchanan fight on tFR extended to '00, when he ran on the Reform ticket. I'll take your word for it that Willie became a member in '98, but it really isn't important given the amount of time that has passed. That Willie didn't like the freedom of 4um, and insulted the owner over the mess that is Iraq, is what is important.

I don't expect to see Arator anytime soon. He has literally turned to the dark side.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-01-30   21:24:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Original_Intent (#42) (Edited)

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition


"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx

You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace

ALAS, BABYLON

IndieTX  posted on  2009-01-30   21:24:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: IndieTX (#44)

LOL!

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-01-30   21:26:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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