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Religion See other Religion Articles Title: Paying Back Caesar’s Things to Caesar Paying Back Caesars Things to Caesar Render to all their dues.ROMANS 13:7. ACCORDING to Jesus, there are things we owe to God and things we owe to Caesar, or the State. Jesus said: Pay back Caesars things to Caesar, but Gods things to God. In these few words, he confounded his enemies and neatly summed up the balanced attitude we must have in our relationship with God and in our dealings with the State. No wonder that his listeners began to marvel at him!Mark 12:17. 2 Of course, the first concern of Jehovahs servants is that they pay back Gods things to God. (Psalm 116:12-14) In doing so, however, they do not forget that Jesus said that they must render certain things to Caesar. Their Bible-trained consciences require that they consider prayerfully to what extent they can pay back what Caesar calls for. (Romans 13:7) In modern times, many jurists have recognized that governmental power has limits and that people and governments everywhere are bound by natural law. 3 The apostle Paul referred to this natural law when he wrote about people of the world: What may be known about God is manifest among them, for God made it manifest to them. For his invisible qualities are clearly seen from the worlds creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable. If they will respond to it, natural law will even move the consciences of these unbelievers. Thus, Paul further said: Whenever people of the nations that do not have law do by nature the things of the law, these people, although not having law, are a law to themselves. They are the very ones who demonstrate the matter of the law to be written in their hearts, while their conscience is bearing witness with them.Romans 1:19, 20; 2:14, 15. 4 In the 18th century, the renowned English jurist William Blackstone wrote: This law of nature [natural law], being co-eval with [the same age as] mankind and dictated by God himself, is of course superior in obligation to any other. It is binding over all the globe, in all countries, and at all times: no human laws are of any validity, if contrary to this. Blackstone went on to speak of revealed law, as found in the Bible, and he commented: Upon these two foundations, the law of nature and the law of revelation, depend all human laws; that is to say, no human laws should be suffered [allowed] to contradict these. This is in harmony with what Jesus said about God and Caesar, as recorded at Mark 12:17. Clearly, there are areas where God limits what Caesar can require of a Christian. The Sanhedrin strayed into just such an area when they commanded the apostles to stop preaching about Jesus. Hence, the apostles correctly responded: We must obey God as ruler rather than men.Acts 5:28, 29. Gods Things 5 Especially since 1914, when Jehovah God, the Almighty, began ruling as king through Christs Messianic Kingdom, have Christians had to be sure not to give Gods things to Caesar. (Revelation 11:15, 17) As never before, Gods law now calls on Christians to be no part of the world. (John 17:16) Being dedicated to God, their Life-Giver, they must demonstrate clearly that they no longer belong to themselves. (Psalm 100:2, 3) As Paul wrote, we belong to Jehovah. (Romans 14:8) Moreover, at a Christians baptism, he is ordained as a minister of God, so that he can say with Paul: God . . . has indeed adequately qualified us to be ministers.2 Corinthians 3:5, 6. 6 The apostle Paul also wrote: I glorify my ministry. (Romans 11:13) Surely we should do likewise. Whether we share in the ministry full-time or part-time, we keep in mind that Jehovah himself assigned us to our ministry. (2 Corinthians 2:17) Since some may challenge our position, every dedicated, baptized Christian must be ready to furnish clear and positive proof that he truly is a minister of the good news. (1 Peter 3:15) His ministry should also be evidenced in his conduct. As a minister of God, a Christian should advocate and practice clean morals, uphold family unity, be honest, and show respect for law and order. (Romans 12:17, 18; 1 Thessalonians 5:15) A Christians relationship with God and his divinely assigned ministry are the most important things in his life. He cannot give these up at the behest of Caesar. Clearly, they are to be counted among Gods things. Caesars Things 7 Jehovahs Witnesses know that they owe subjection to the superior authorities, the governmental rulers. (Romans 13:1) Hence, when Caesar, the State, makes legitimate demands, their Bible-trained consciences allow them to satisfy these demands. For example, true Christians are among the most exemplary taxpayers on earth. In Germany the newspaper Münchner Merkur said of Jehovahs Witnesses: They are the most honest and the most punctual tax payers in the Federal Republic. In Italy the newspaper La Stampa observed: They [Jehovahs Witnesses] are the most loyal citizens anyone could wish for: they do not dodge taxes or seek to evade inconvenient laws for their own profit. Jehovahs servants do this on account of their consciences.Romans 13:5, 6. 8 Are Caesars things limited to paying taxes? No. Paul listed other things, such as fear and honor. In his Critical and Exegetical Hand-Book to the Gospel of Matthew, German scholar Heinrich Meyer wrote: By [Caesars things] . . . we are not to understand merely the civil tax, but everything to which Caesar was entitled in virtue of his legitimate rule. Historian E. W. Barnes, in his work The Rise of Christianity, observed that a Christian would pay taxes if he owed them and likewise accept all other State obligations, provided he was not called upon to render unto Caesar the things that belonged to God. 9 What things might the State require without encroaching on the things that rightfully belong to God? Some have felt that they could legitimately give Caesar money in the form of taxes but nothing else. They certainly would not feel comfortable giving Caesar anything that might take up time that could be used for theocratic activities. Nevertheless, while it is true that we should love Jehovah our God with our whole heart, soul, mind, and strength, Jehovah does expect us to spend time in things other than our sacred service. (Mark 12:30; Philippians 3:3) For example, a married Christian is counseled to devote time to pleasing his or her marriage mate. Such activities are not bad, but the apostle Paul states that they are the things of the world not the things of the Lord.1 Corinthians 7:32-34; compare 1 Timothy 5:8. 10 Further, Christ authorized his followers to pay back taxes, and this certainly involves using time that is dedicated to Jehovahsince our entire lives are dedicated in this way. If the average taxation in a country is 33 percent of income (it is higher in some countries), this means that each year the average worker pays to the State Treasury four months worth of his earnings. Put another way, at the end of his working life, the average worker will have spent about 15 years earning the tax money that Caesar requires. Consider, too, the matter of schooling. In most countries the law requires that parents have their children attend school for a minimum number of years. The number of years of schooling varies from country to country. In most places it is a substantial length of time. True, such schooling is usually beneficial, but it is Caesar who decides what portion of a childs life must be spent in this way, and Christian parents comply with Caesars decision. Compulsory Military Service 11 Another demand made by Caesar in some countries is compulsory military service. In the 20th century, this arrangement has been instituted by most nations in times of war and by some in times of peace as well. In France this obligation was for many years called blood tax, meaning that every young man had to be willing to lay down his life for the State. Is this something that those dedicated to Jehovah can conscientiously render? How did the first-century Christians view this matter? 12 While the earliest Christians endeavored to be good citizens, their faith prevented them from taking the life of another or from sacrificing their own lives for the State. The Encyclopedia of Religion states: The early church fathers, including Tertullian and Origen, affirmed that Christians were constrained from taking human life, a principle that prevented them from participating in the Roman army. In his book The Early Church and the World, Professor C. J. Cadoux writes: Up to the reign of Marcus Aurelius at least [161-180 C.E.], no Christian would become a soldier after his baptism. 13 Why do members of the churches of Christendom not view things this way today? Because of a radical change that took place in the fourth century. The Catholic work A History of the Christian Councils explains: Many Christians, . . . under the pagan emperors, had religious scruples with regard to military service, and positively refused to take arms, or else deserted. The Synod [of Arles, held in 314 C.E.], in considering the changes introduced by Constantine, set forth the obligation that Christians have to serve in war, . . . because the Church is at peace (in pace) under a prince friendly to Christians. As a result of this abandonment of Jesus teachings, from that time until now, the clergy of Christendom have encouraged their flocks to serve in the armies of the nations, although some individuals have taken a stand as conscientious objectors. 14 Are Christians today obliged to follow the majority in this matter? No. If a dedicated, baptized Christian lives in a country where exemption from military service is granted to ministers of religion, he may avail himself of this provision, for he is in fact a minister. (2 Timothy 4:5) A number of countries, including the United States and Australia, have granted such exemption even in wartime. And during peacetime, in many lands that maintain compulsory military service, Jehovahs Witnesses, as ministers of religion, are granted exemption. Thus they can continue helping the people by their public service. 15 What, though, if the Christian lives in a land where exemption is not granted to ministers of religion? Then he will have to make a personal decision following his Bible-trained conscience. (Galatians 6:5) While taking the authority of Caesar into account, he will weigh carefully what he owes to Jehovah. (Psalm 36:9; 116:12-14; Acts 17:28) The Christian will remember that the mark of a true Christian is love for all his fellow believers, even those who live in other lands or those belonging to other tribes. (John 13:34, 35; 1 Peter 2:17) Further, he will not forget the Scriptural principles found in texts such as Isaiah 2:2-4; Matthew 26:52; Romans 12:18; 14:19; 2 Corinthians 10:4; and Hebrews 12:14. Civilian Service 16 However, there are lands where the State, while not allowing exemption for ministers of religion, nevertheless acknowledges that some individuals may object to military service. Many of these lands make provision for such conscientious individuals not to be forced into military service. In some places a required civilian service, such as useful work in the community, is regarded as nonmilitary national service. Could a dedicated Christian undertake such service? Here again, a dedicated, baptized Christian would have to make his own decision on the basis of his Bible-trained conscience. 17 It seems that compulsory service was practiced in Bible times. One history book states: In addition to the taxes and dues exacted from the inhabitants of Judea, there was also a corvée [unpaid labor exacted by public authorities]. This was an ancient institution in the East, which the Hellenistic and Roman authorities continued to maintain. . . . The New Testament, too, cites examples of corvée in Judea, showing how widespread it was. In accordance with this custom, the soldiers pressed Simon of Cyrene into carrying Jesus cross [torture stake] (Matthew 5:41; 27:32; Mark 15:21; Luke 23:26). 18 Similarly, citizens in some countries today are required by the State or by local authorities to participate in various forms of community service. Sometimes this is for a specific task, such as digging wells or building roads; sometimes it is on a regular basis, such as weekly participation in cleaning up roads, schools, or hospitals. Where such civilian service is for the good of the community and is not connected with false religion or is not in some other way objectionable to the consciences of Jehovahs Witnesses, they have often complied. (1 Peter 2:13-15) This has usually resulted in an excellent witness and has sometimes silenced those who falsely accuse the Witnesses of being antigovernment.Compare Matthew 10:18. 19 What, though, if the State requires a Christian for a period of time to perform civilian service that is a part of national service under a civilian administration? Here again, Christians must make their own decision based on an informed conscience. We shall all stand before the judgment seat of God. (Romans 14:10) Christians faced with a requirement of Caesar should prayerfully study the matter and meditate on it. It may also be wise to talk the matter over with mature Christians in the congregation. After this a personal decision must be made.Proverbs 2:1-5; Philippians 4:5. 20 While engaged in such research, Christians would consider a number of Bible principles. Paul said that we must be obedient to governments and authorities as rulers, . . . be ready for every good work . . . be reasonable, exhibiting all mildness toward all men. (Titus 3:1, 2) At the same time, Christians would do well to examine the proposed civilian work. If they accept it, will they be able to maintain Christian neutrality? (Micah 4:3, 5; John 17:16) Would it involve them with some false religion? (Revelation 18:4, 20, 21) Would performing it prevent or unreasonably limit them from fulfilling their Christian responsibilities? (Matthew 24:14; Hebrews 10:24, 25) On the other hand, would they be able to continue to make spiritual progress, perhaps even sharing in the full-time ministry while performing the required service?Hebrews 6:11, 12. 21 What if the Christians honest answers to such questions lead him to conclude that the national civilian service is a good work that he can perform in obedience to the authorities? That is his decision before Jehovah. Appointed elders and others should fully respect the conscience of the brother and continue to regard him as a Christian in good standing. If, however, a Christian feels that he cannot perform this civilian service, his position should also be respected. He too remains in good standing and should receive loving support.1 Corinthians 10:29; 2 Corinthians 1:24; 1 Peter 3:16. 22 As Christians we will not cease to render to him who calls for honor, such honor. (Romans 13:7) We will respect good order and seek to be peaceful, law-abiding citizens. (Psalm 34:14) We may even pray concerning kings and all those who are in high station when these men are called upon to make decisions that affect our Christian life and work. As a result of our paying back Caesars things to Caesar, we hope that we may go on leading a calm and quiet life with full godly devotion and seriousness. (1 Timothy 2:1, 2) Above all, we will continue to preach the good news of the Kingdom as mankinds only hope, conscientiously paying back Gods things to God.
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#1. To: richard9151 (#0)
Nice. Statism and "christianity", huh? Good thing our founders weren't JW. Out tax money is STOLEN before we ever see it. They denied me my chance to render unto caesar! That is UNJUST. I want to be a statist bootlicker but I cannot.
Ahh yes, 'our founders.' They did such a good job..... just look at the mess they created. Absolutely. Good thing they were not Christians, at all. As for that mess, I suggest that both of you listen to the post; YouTube - Gerald Celente Global Economic Meltdown (Video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XgbvHqayTI&videos=GSd0UBPpoG0 Be sure and check out his creditials. Impressive. No wild eyed pariot him! Then, when you are done listening, try the following post I put up a few days ago. Then tell me all about how great America is, and how it will outlast the judgement that it is under. "What Could Possibly Go Wrong?" By the way, should I mention that the enemies of God, those who will not listen to Him, destroy themselves? So when you are done with the two above, try doing some research on cloning and what is happening with some of the animals now being copied and created in labs. Interesting. As Revelation says, Jesus Christ will return because if he did not, not a man would be alive on the earth. Am I afraid of big bombs? Not hardly. That is childs play compared to what man is now working on. Oh, and enjoy, of course.
America isnt' great. Not one country is great. This country is trash. Total trash. But there is a remnant here. There are people here worth fighting for, and probably dying for in the process. This country was hijacked and the hijackers need to go bye-bye. You seem to think these are the last days. That is very popular teaching in churchianity, and that leads me to immediately question it's validity. Want to talk about judgment? Isaiah 26:9 With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early : for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness. Tell me, is that TRUE? Tell me, is that a prophecy? Tell me, has that happened ever in the past? Will it happen in the future? Learn righteousness, not be wiped out. Who are the judgments aimed at? Who are we warned to come out of or else face those plagues? Babylon. The "church". Babylon the "church' is going to fall, again.
It has already fallen. And it will never get up. The proof of that is in the complete decline of attendance at the churches of the world. For another example, China has completely destroyed the ancient religion of the Chinese. It has barely a remenant. Same with the Eastern Orthadox church of Russia. (Boy. I butchered that spelling!) 4 John continues the account, telling us: After these things I saw another angel descending from heaven, with great authority; and the earth was lighted up from his glory. And he cried out with a strong voice, saying: She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen. (Revelation 18:1, 2a) It is the second time that John hears that angelic announcement. (See Revelation 14:8.) This time, however, its significance is emphasized by the magnificence of the heavenly angel, for his glory lights up the whole earth! Who can he be? Centuries earlier the prophet Ezekiel, reporting on a heavenly vision, stated that the earth itself shone because of his [Jehovahs] glory. (Ezekiel 43:2) The only angel to shine with glory comparable to Jehovahs would be the Lord Jesus, who is the reflection of [Gods] glory and the exact representation of his very being. (Hebrews 1:3) In 1914, Jesus became a heavenly King, and since that time he has been exercising authority over the earth as Jehovahs associate King and Judge. It is fitting, then, that he should announce the fall of Babylon the Great. 5 Whom does this angel with great authority use in heralding such amazing news before mankind? Why, it is the very people that are released as a result of that fall, the remaining anointed ones on earth, the John class. From 1914 to 1918, these suffered greatly at the hands of Babylon the Great, but in 1918 the Lord Jehovah and his messenger of the [Abrahamic] covenant, Jesus Christ, began judgment with the house of God, those professing to be Christians. Thus apostate Christendom was brought to trial. (Malachi 3:1; 1 Peter 4:17) Her tremendous bloodguilt incurred during the first world war, her complicity in persecuting Jehovahs faithful witnesses, and her Babylonish creeds did not help her in the time of judgment; nor did any other part of Babylon the Great merit Gods approval.Compare Isaiah 13:1-9. 6 So by 1919 Babylon the Great had fallen, opening the way for Gods people to be released and restored, in one day as it were, to their land of spiritual prosperity. (Isaiah 66:8) By that year, Jehovah God and Jesus Christ, the Greater Darius and the Greater Cyrus, had maneuvered matters so that false religion could no longer keep a hold on Jehovahs people. No more could it prevent them from serving Jehovah and making known to all who might hear that harlotlike Babylon the Great is doomed and the vindication of Jehovahs sovereignty is at hand!Isaiah 45:1-4; Daniel 5:30, 31. 7 True, Babylon the Great was not destroyed in 1919any more than the ancient city Babylon was destroyed in 539 B.C.E. when it fell to the armies of Cyrus the Persian. But from Jehovahs viewpoint, that organization had fallen. She was judicially condemned, awaiting execution; therefore, false religion could no longer hold Jehovahs people in captivity. (Compare Luke 9:59, 60.) These were released to serve as the Masters faithful and discreet slave in providing spiritual food at the proper time. They had received a judgment of Well done and were commissioned to get busy again in Jehovahs work.Matthew 24:45-47; 25:21, 23; Acts 1:8. Should I bother to add that since that time, in 1919, the numbers of witnesses to Jehovah has grown from a few hundred to more than 7 million in more than 100,000 congregations in every land of the earth.... including China? Well, I added it just in case you were curious. And please, do not bother right now to mention any errors that the organization has made. They freely admit them, apologize, and work harder to get it right. Information about Revelation is released as it is neccessary for understanding. That release is by Jehovah God only, and it is made available as it is relavent.
Wrong. The Church will never be destroyed. And please, do not bother right now to mention any errors that the organization has made. They freely admit them, apologize, and work harder to get it right. Who cares if they "freely admit" them? It's like me freely admitting 2+2=4. It's obvious they are wrong and they think that saying "silly me, I was wrong" is going to make it all OK? They aren't "errors". They are false prophecies. What are you commanded to do to those that give false prophecies? Are you commanded to believe them, or to ignore them and ignore those that make them? There is no room for "errors". Tell me, how does one "work harder to get it right" where prophecy is concerned? You are not making sense here. They compound errors on top of other errors. I wont even comment on the "prophecies" in the above post.
#10. To: PSUSA (#7)
That is a silly statement, and I think you well know it. No one is prophecizing. They are trying to find and understand the secrets of the 7 seals. Those prophecies have already been made. How can they be made yet again?
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