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Title: Israel and Dispensationalism - Dispensationalist Dementia
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Published: Jan 1, 2005
Author: Greg Loren Durand
Post Date: 2009-01-31 08:08:02 by AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt
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Israel and Dispensationalism By Greg Loren Durand Common Law Copyright (1995) Many Christians believe that there are three separate bodies in the world today: the Church, Israel, and the Gentiles. The Bible, however, is clear that God has had only one people throughout redemptive history which He has adopted as His Church (as they are called in the New Testament), or as the people of God (as they are called in the Old Testament). The modern distinction that is made between the Christian Church and Israel is, by and large, the product of the Dispensational system which originated in the last century with J.N. Darby and C.I. Scofield. It is perpetuated today in the writings of Hal Lindsey, Dave Hunt, and in such evangelical movements as the Calvary Chapels. Dispensationalists center their interpretation of biblical prophecy around modern Israel and look forward to a time in the near future when the Church will be "raptured" out of the world and God will resume His historical dealings with the physical descendants of Abraham. Supposedly, with the advent of a world leader known as "Antichrist," the Jews will recognize Jesus as their Messiah and will repent of their rebellion and return to the worship of Yahweh. This, however, will not constitute their salvation in the Christian sense of the word, for the Jewish temple will then be rebuilt and the sacrificial system will be reinstated. At the end of a seven-year period commonly referred to as the "Great Tribulation," Jesus will return once again to earth and set up an earthly throne in Jerusalem. This is referred to as the "millennial reign" of Christ, for it is said to last one thousand years. Many would be shocked to hear that such an elaborate eschatological system has no basis whatsoever in the Scriptures (properly interpreted), and instead rests upon very questionable, and at times even heretical, presuppositions regarding redemptive history. First of all, there is not one verse that can be cited from the Bible that teaches that Jesus will sit upon an earthly throne in Jerusalem. Also, the teaching that this reign will be limited to one thousand years is drawn from a strained interpretation of Revelation 20:1-10 (the only biblical passage that even mentions a millennium). However, the gravest error of the Dispensational system is its underlying premise that God deals with Christians and the nation of Israel in completely different ways, and that Jews may be reconciled to God apart from the Gospel of Christ. Paul specifically addressed this alleged distinction when he wrote that "both Jews and Greeks [Gentiles]... are all under sin" (Romans 3:9). He went on to say: "Therefore by the deeds of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the Law is the knowledge of sin. But now the righteousness of God apart from the Law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, even the righteousness of God which is through faith in Jesus Christ to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference; for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus" (Romans 3:20-24). Furthermore, in Romans 8:5, Paul separated mankind into two classes of people-- those "who live according to the flesh" (the unregenerate) and those who "live according to the Spirit" (the regenerate). Members of the former group are said to be "enmity against God" (verse 7), and therefore "cannot please God" (verse 8). The latter are those whom God had chosen to save "before the foundation of the world" (Ephesians 1:4), and are pleasing to God solely on the basis of the fact that they have been reckoned by Him as being "in Christ" (Ephesians 1:3). This same concept is seen in slightly different terms in Paul's distinction between those "in Adam" and those "in Christ" found in Romans 5:12-21 and I Corinthians 15:22. The point being made here is that there is no third class of mankind which are not included in Christ by divine predestination and spiritual regeneration (Romans 8:29-30), and yet enjoy His favor on the basis of nationality and their observance of the Law (Galatians 3:11). Scripture is very clear that those who are called "sons of God" have not been "born of blood, nor the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man," but have been born "of God" (John 1:13). The message of Jesus to those Jews who were relying upon their lineage for right standing with God was, "You must be born again" (John 3:3). As Paul wrote: "There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism...." (Ephesians 4:4-5) In Galatians 3:26-29 and Romans 9:6-8, Paul denied that physical descent from Abraham and physical circumcision would save anyone, and stated that the true descendants of Abraham were those who "are Christ's" via spiritual regeneration. Consequently, we must reject the concept promoted by Dispensationalism that there are two separate people of God-- the Christian Church and the nation of Israel. The covenantal privilege that national Israel enjoyed as the chosen people of God was ended when the Jewish leaders "fill[ed] up... the measure of [their] fathers'guilt" (Matthew 23:32) by rejecting and crucifying their own Messiah. Jesus was very explicit in stating that the "house" of Israel was left "desolate" (Matthew 23:37-39), and that the Kingdom would be taken from the Jews as a people and given to another people (Matthew 8:10-12, 21:33-45, etc.). The Reformed view is that God "divorced" national Israel and "married" spiritual Israel, which is the Church made up of people "from every tribe and tongue and people and nation" (Revelation 5:9). Henceforth, the Church, not the nation of Israel, is referred to as the "Israel of God" (Galatians 6:16), the "house of God" (Hebrews 10:21), "a holy temple" (Ephesians 2:21), the "new Jerusalem" (Hebrews 12:22; Revelation 21:2), and "a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, [and] His own special people" (I Peter 2:9). Moreover, the Church is referred to by Scripture as "the bride, the Lamb's wife" (Revelation 21:9), and "His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all" (Ephesians 1:23). Since there is no salvation apart from inclusion in Christ, Jews cannot and will not be saved unless they repent, believe the Gospel, and are baptized into the Church by the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:38). [Permission Graciously Given by The Foundation for Biblical Studies] Poster Comment: 4um: Christ is King of Israel, and Christians are the Israelitic race. ...... INDEX JUSTIN MARTYR DIALOGUE WITH TRYPHO, A JEW [A.D. 140]:. http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf01.toc.html. King Jesus Christ, the Focus of All Bible Prophecy ..... http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=93210 British Israel: The Hidden Hand Behind the 'The Kingdom of God on Earth' Deception http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=72694 Scepter of Judah and Thesis Statements [Agenda for World War, Destruction of Christian America; and Jewish Supremacy] http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=75182
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#1. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)
If anyone is the anti-Christ today, it's those Christians who support war, slaughter, disease, and destruction because they think those things will bring Jesus back.
Turtle's Law: When the gap between the rich and everyone else becomes great, things happen.
There is no one antichrist individual. There is the Beast who is often called the antichrist. Antichrist is anyone who denies christ. For example Elliot Jackelope would be an antichrist since he denies him.
You could put it that way, or you could say they worship and have taken the mark of the Beast, to do his will, rather than God's. They are victims of delusion, along with those who are truly the world's oppressors.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
Anti does not just mean "against", it means "substitute". The "substitute" goes "against" Christ simply by being a substitute Christ. Mt 24:5 For many shall come in my name saying I am Christ and shall deceive many. Does that sound like todays apostate "preachers"? It sure does to me. That is antichrist.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files search for antichrist in the bible. It says anyone who denies christ is antichrist. It is only mentioned a very few times in scripture. No it doesn't sound like todays preachers. I haven't heard any of them say they are christ. I have heard fake Kenneth copeland talk about us being little christs though.
There is no punctuation in Greek. It was added by the translators as an interpretation. Mat 24:5 For many shall come (5695) in my name, saying (5723) , I am (5748) Christ; and shall deceive (5692) many. Now, how many out there claim to be Christ? A few. How many do they deceive? Not many. But change the inserted punctuation, again keeping in mind that Greek does not use punctuation, and what do you get? A completely different meaning. For many shall come (5695) in my name saying (5723) I [Jesus} am (5748) Christ and shall deceive (5692) many. Now, decide for yourself which is correct. IMO you are right, They come in His name as His "preachers" and "teachers", they deny Christ and substitute another. And, they deceive many in the process.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Correct Jesus said there were many antichrists, and they were in the world as He spoke...I believe He was talking specifically at that time of the Pharisees and their ilk. There is the Beast who is often called the antichrist That appears to apply to a government. Dr. Lorraine Day calls it "Christian Zionism"; the first Beast, in her view, being the Zionism of Jesus' time. [see “Now the U.S. Government Can Legally Kill Christians,” ... www.takebackourrights.org/docs/noahidelaw.html ] Our own 'dear' government also could fit the bill, which in its own words IS NOT CHRISTIAN: .....The Treaty of Tripoli Unlike most governments of the past, the American Founding Fathers set up a government divorced from any religion. Their establishment of a secular government did not require a reflection to themselves of its origin; they knew this as a ubiquitous unspoken given. However, as the United States delved into international affairs, few foreign nations knew about the intentions of the U.S. For this reason, an insight from at a little known but legal document written in the late 1700s explicitly reveals the secular nature of the U.S. goverenment to a foreign nation. Officially called the "Treaty of peace and friendship between the United States of America and the Bey and Subjects of Tripoli, of Barbary," most refer to it as simply the Treaty of Tripoli. In Article 11, it states: "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries." Click here to see the actual article 11 of the Treaty The preliminary treaty began with a signing on 4 November, 1796 (the end of George Washington's last term as president). Joel Barlow, the American diplomat served as counsel to Algiers and held responsibility for the treaty negotiations. Barlow had once served under Washington as a chaplain in the revolutionary army. He became good friends with Paine, Jefferson, and read Enlightenment literature. Later he abandoned Christian orthodoxy for rationalism and became an advocate of secular government. Joel Barlow wrote the original English version of the treaty, including Amendment 11. Barlow forwarded the treaty to U.S. legislators for approval in 1797. Timothy Pickering, the secretary of state, endorsed it and John Adams concurred (now during his presidency), sending the document on to the Senate. The Senate approved the treaty on June 7, 1797, and officially ratified by the Senate with John Adams signature on 10 June, 1797. All during this multi-review process, the wording of Article 11 never raised the slightest concern. The treaty even became public through its publication in The Philadelphia Gazette on 17 June 1797. So here we have a clear admission by the United States in 1797 that our government did not found itself upon Christianity. Unlike the Declaration of Independence, this treaty represented U.S. law as all U.S. Treaties do (see the Constitution, Article VI, Sect.2: "This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof, and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; [!!!! see "and the government shall be upon HIS SHOULDER bible.cc/isaiah/9-6.htm ; see also Micah 4:2...IT REFERS TO CHRISTIAN AMERICA! - ATKHWDI NOTE.] and the judges in every State shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.") [Bold text, mine] Although the Treaty of Tripoli under agreement only lasted a few years and no longer has legal status, it clearly represented the feelings of our Founding Fathers at the beginning of the American government....... http://www.nobeliefs.com/Tripoli.htm Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak........ [The US government is the image of the old Roman Empire ridden by the WHORE OF BABYLON - OLD JERUSALEM - which persecuted the Christians. The US government has been given "life" as a "PERSON" under the laws of CORPORATIONS [i.e., corporations are "persons" under the law, and as such have "life", and do "speak". See THE UNITED STATES IS NOT A COUNTRY; IT'S A CORPORATION! www.serendipity.li/jsmill/us_corporation.htm ]. Revelation 13 the Beast with two horns like a Lamb, but spoke like a Dragon..... [The City of London, btw, has as its symbols the Dragon [search] and Gog and Magog, enemies of Israel, and has its roots in Rome www.lordmayorsshow.org/visitors/history/gogmagog ..... not to mention, THE US IS STILL A BRITISH COLONY [search]]. ....... and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. [See Now the US Government Can Legally Kill Christians above.] Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: [did you know that Social Security, and its numbers, is INTERNATIONAL?] Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a [I THINK THIS IS MISTRANSLATED; I THINK "A" SHOULD BE DELETED] man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six. http://www.blueletterbible.org/B...?b=Rev&c=13&v=15&t=KJV#15 The US government bears the number "666", DELIBERATELY, in its "Great Seal": [See Satan on our Dollar http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/E...m/satan_on_our_dollar.htm ] See also: Table of Contents - Mark of the Beast May 4, 2006 ... There is overwhelming evidence that the Social Security Card and Number has ALL the characteristics of the Mark of the Beast ... http://usa-the-republic.com/mark%20of%20beast/toc.htm A Study of the Mark of the Beast. http://www.hisholychurch.net/sermon/mark2.html [just connecting some dots.]
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
O;d Friend would be an anti christ because he believes in the murdering plundering genocide of the Palis because he believes they are sub human. Anyone who calls for the genocide and ethnic cleansing of a peoples can't be christian but is anti christ since they call for the destruction of god's creations, the Palistinians. In fact, O F is a most hateful excuse for a christian and is only a lousy socialist zionist jew or jew wannabe. This freak is the sorriest excuse for a human being. Don't be fooled by this jackass and be taken in by his blasphemy as he claims he loves everyone and then spews the most hateful diatribe against "all" muslims including wishing for the total annihilation of the entire muslim world, especially their women, little children, babies, and even their animals in a zoo. You pathetic sick bastard old friend!
It is mistranslated. THe "man" in this scripture is a generic term for mankind, not a specific man. It's like saying "for it is the number of a single mankind". It doesnt make sense.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Jews be doing a whole lotsa christ denying, bubble-brain. In fact, your confused buddies in Israel are known to publicly and religiously spit on and curse anyone that carries a christian cross. They seem to be unique in that regard. Anti-christ idolators such as yourself will burn sulphur-yellow hot in the pits of hell! Burn Bubby burn!!!
I'm not so sure they are his buddies. I believe he is one of them hateful murdering zionist jews. He claimed he would spit in my face if he could come face to face with me. Cyni says these hateful jews ought to be nuked. Something ought to be done to put this zionist Bolshevik and them out of their misery!
Actually, I believe OF is probably a poseur, a fake. His goal is to smear mainstream christians by association. By posing as a drooling murderous idiot that quotes bible stories, and claiming he is a true christian, he smears mainstream christians by association.
His goal is to smear mainstream christians by association. By posing as a drooling murderous idiot that quotes bible stories, and claiming he is a true christian, he smears mainstream christians by association. You;re in the ballpark I believe. This freak could also be a guvmint plant here to angry up all of us so they can find out our true take on things so they can come after us when it is time. I hate to call him a person but have not enough intelligence to come up with an appropriate name for such a sorry excuse for a christian and human.
It is mistranslated. THe "man" in this scripture is a generic term for mankind, not a specific man. It's like saying "for it is the number of a single mankind". It doesnt make sense. It's a measure of the level of uncertainty that exists whenever you try to translate words like this from ancient languages to modern ones. Luther has Mench handy to use in translating this passage. We might use "human" or "human being" but that lexical item sounds awfully abstract and clinical for general use. The passage reads: "arithmos gar anthropou estin." or "number then (of) (a) man(?) is." An adult male is often referred to as aner. This word is used to distinguish a person from a boy or a woman. While anthropos may be used to refer to a female using the feminine article hei, it is often used in contexts where an adult male is clearly meant. These ambiguities are the stuff of endless debate amonng advocates of a "gender neutral" Bible and their adversaries. If you want to blow a chunk of your morning beginning to get a handle on this stuff you can have a look at sites like these: The Translation of Aner (±½·Á) If you want to see fairly well informed posters banging each other's brains out over the meaning of anthropos, click below: You can get quite lost in this stuff. The sun is shining where I'm at. Time to get some fresh air.
It is mistranslated. THe "man" in this scripture is a generic term for mankind, not a specific man. It's like saying "for it is the number of a single mankind". It doesnt make sense sorry. my computer crashed shortly after i posted last. i was trying to check out micah 4:2 and isaiah 2:3....i noticed a note on google that there was malware attached to the bible.cc site associated with those two verses...."may harm your computer"....then i got shut down. now i don't see any such notice....is the problem fixed? or hidden? THe "man" in this scripture is a generic term for mankind, not a specific man. I agree. That's what I was trying to say. Look at the Great Seal: "Novus Ordo Seclorum," COULD be translated New SECULAR Order, i.e., SANS GOD, a New Order based on MAN, whose number, as you say, is "666". Jhn 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. When Jesus said "My kingdom is not of the WORLD", the word for "world" was "kosmos", meaning: 1) an apt and harmonious arrangement or constitution, order, government 2) ornament, decoration, adornment, i.e. the arrangement of the stars, 'the heavenly hosts', as the ornament of the heavens. 1 Pet. 3:3 3) the world, the universe 4) the circle of the earth, the earth 5) the inhabitants of the earth, men, the human family 6) the ungodly multitude; the whole mass of men alienated from God, and therefore hostile to the cause of Christ 7) world affairs, the aggregate of things earthly a) the whole circle of earthly goods, endowments riches, advantages, pleasures, etc, which although hollow and frail and fleeting, stir desire, seduce from God and are obstacles to the cause of Christ 8) any aggregate or general collection of particulars of any sort a) the Gentiles as contrasted to the Jews (Rom. 11:12 etc) b) of believers only, John 1:29; 3:16; 3:17; 6:33; 12:47 1 Cor. 4:9; 2 Cor. 5:19 http://www.blueletterbible.org/l...n.cfm?Strongs=G2889&t=KJV Jesus had come to set up HIS OWN NEW WORLD ORDER. Jewish Corporation USA came in rebellion to it, and to reinstate THE OLD WORLD ORDER. [going to get some crap food at mickey d's with my girls....be back]
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
It has nothing to do with PC "gender neutral" controversies, it's how the word is translated there, and in other places. Not to mention adding to the word, and taking away from it. There is no reason to "get lost" in it. If you get lost in it then what you are really saying is that you need X number of theological degrees to understand it. That is most untrue. THe easiets way to do that is with E-Sword freeware. You can see where a G or H word is translated elsewhere in the book-in-question, and thru the OT and NT. But this will also show more important things. The current topic, IMO, is important but there is so much more there. Especially where the KJV translations dont match what is written. KJV us good, but the churches build on the errors and ignore the rest. The sun is shining here too, suppposed to get around 50 or so. Maybe I will get to see the grass again. I hate snow. I hate winter, period.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files I recommend www.e-sword.net/downloads.html. It's a great tool. The search function is great. YMMV It comes with KJV, but there are many other translations you can add on. This might help you reduce the number of windows too:)
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files You don't need a damn degree. You need to be able to read Corinthian. And then you can fight with other folks that read Corinthian. Two thousand years from now experts will read Hemingway and argue about what he meant. And they'll all probably be wrong. Enjoy your day. Now I'm really off to catch some rays!
Thanks!
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
Me too. Consider this. Adam and Eve were running around the garden naked. It must have always been good weather back in the day.
It's not just Muslims, either. Many Palestinians and other Arabs are Christian, but our "good Christian" Old Friend still prefers Jews to members of his (supposed) own religion. The Zionists hate and want to annihilate every race and creed that stands in their way.
In all likelihood Old Friend is a Jewish teenager who amuses himself by pretending to be a Christian Zionist and posting to this forum. He feels himself morally superior to us dumb white trash goys.
Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.
This might be just what this person really is. One things for sure, he, she, it is downright hateful towards anyone who isn't jooish, a jooish wannabe, and or a person who posts the truth about the lousy hateful, murdering, ethnic cleansing Bolshevik joos who love to spit in peoples faces. Notice how this sorry perv disappears when the truth shows up?
Bubble-brain is too stupid to be government; even the government has minimum standards for rationality. Dispensationalist pinheads are Pharisee followers. Some jewish leaders (pharisees) publicly identify the jewish people collectively as the christ, the messiah. Some jewish people will also identify themselves as christians. That doesn't mean jewish people believe jesus of nazareth to be the christ; it means they believe jewish people (aka Israel) are the christ, the messsiah of the world. Bubble-brain is a christian in the same sense as pharisees and jewish people consider themselves to be christian.
#2. To: Turtle (#1)
If anyone is the anti-Christ today, it's those Christians who support war, slaughter, disease, and destruction because they think those things will bring Jesus back.
#3. To: Turtle (#1)
#4. To: Old Friend (#2)
There is no one antichrist individual. There is the Beast who is often called the antichrist. Antichrist is anyone who denies christ.
#5. To: PSUSA (#4)
#6. To: Old Friend (#5)
(Edited)
No it doesn't sound like todays preachers. I haven't heard any of them say they are christ.
#7. To: Old Friend (#2)
There is no one antichrist individual.
#8. To: Old Friend, Turtle (#2)
There is no one antichrist individual. There is the Beast who is often called the antichrist. Antichrist is anyone who denies christ. For example Elliot Jackelope would be an antichrist since he denies him.
#9. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#7)
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a [I THINK THIS IS MISTRANSLATED; I THINK "A" SHOULD BE DELETED] man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six.
#10. To: Old Friend (#5)
(Edited)
search for antichrist in the bible. It says anyone who denies christ is antichrist. It is only mentioned a very few times in scripture.
#11. To: Googolplex (#10)
In fact, your confused buddies in Israel are known to religiously spit on and curse anyone that carries a christian cross. They seem to be unique in that regard.
#12. To: LACUMO (#11)
#13. To: Googolplex (#12)
Actually, I believe OF is probably a poseur, a fake.
#14. To: PSUSA (#9)
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a [I THINK THIS IS MISTRANSLATED; I THINK "A" SHOULD BE DELETED] man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six.
#15. To: PSUSA (#9)
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a [I THINK THIS IS MISTRANSLATED; I THINK "A" SHOULD BE DELETED] man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six.
#16. To: randge (#14)
These ambiguities are the stuff of endless debate amonng advocates of a "gender neutral" Bible and their adversaries. If you want to blow a chunk of your morning beginning to get a handle on this stuff you can have a look at sites like these:
#17. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#15)
sorry. my computer crashed shortly after i posted last. i was trying to check out micah 4:2 and isaiah 2:3....i noticed a note on google that there was malware attached to the bible.cc site associated with those two verses...."may harm your computer"....then i got shut down. now i don't see any such notice....is the problem fixed? or hidden?
#18. To: PSUSA (#16)
what you are really saying is that you need X number of theological degrees to understand it
#19. To: PSUSA (#17)
recommend www.e-sword.net/downloads.html. It's a great tool.
#20. To: PSUSA (#16)
I hate snow. I hate winter, period.
#21. To: LACUMO, Old Friend (#8)
Don't be fooled by this jackass and be taken in by his blasphemy as he claims he loves everyone and then spews the most hateful diatribe against "all" muslims including wishing for the total annihilation of the entire muslim world, especially their women, little children, babies, and even their animals in a zoo
#22. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#21)
Don't be fooled by this jackass and be taken in by his blasphemy as he claims he loves everyone and then spews the most hateful diatribe against "all" muslims including wishing for the total annihilation of the entire muslim world, especially their women, little children, babies, and even their animals in a zoo It's not just Muslims, either. Many Palestinians and other Arabs are Christian, but our "good Christian" Old Friend still prefers Jews to members of his (supposed) own religion.
#23. To: Zoroaster (#22)
In all likelihood Old Friend is a Jewish teenager who amuses himself by pretending to be a Christian Zionist and posting to this forum. He feels himself morally superior to us dumb white trash goys.
#24. To: LACUMO (#13)
(Edited)
This freak could also be a guvmint plant here to angry up all of us so they can find out our true take on things so they can come after us when it is time. I hate to call him a person but have not enough intelligence to come up with an appropriate name for such a sorry excuse for a christian and human.
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