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Title: The Next American Revolution: Main Street vs. Wall Street
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URL Source: http://seekingalpha.com/article/118 ... ion-main-street-vs-wall-street
Published: Feb 3, 2009
Author: Mark McQueen
Post Date: 2009-02-03 09:17:27 by tom007
Keywords: None
Views: 342
Comments: 14

The Next American Revolution: Main Street vs. Wall Street by: Mark McQueen February 03, 2009 Mark McQueen Mark McQueen Add to Your WatchlistAbout this author:

The stories are well known:

* American Automaker executives flying to Washington in private jets to beg for government handouts. * Two hundred thousand dollar California spa bills at AIG (AIG), even after the U.S. taxpayers had to bail that insurance company out of certain bankruptcy. * Eliot Spitzer and his difficult three diamond session. * Citigroup (C) taking delivery of its new $50 million Falcon after receiving more than $40 billion of preferred share capital from the U.S. Treasury to keep the world’s Financial Supermarket from the annals of Receivership.

The impetus for the French Revolution can’t be summarized in a blog post, but there were two core elements that strike me as perfect parallels for the ongoing lack of judgment among some elites south of the border. I’ve always thought that average Americans shared many of the ideals of The Enlightenment, particularly equality and freedom of the individual.

Now that American taxpayers are bailing out many of the elites of their society, the parallels to pre-Revolution France begin to appear. Louis XVI took power during a financial crisis. France was nearing bankruptcy and the costs of the government exceeded tax revenues. Some of the most blessed in society didn’t pay tax.

After several years of deficits, the U.S. government has been forced to dig even deeper to ensure that Citigroup, Morgan Stanley (MS), GE Capital, General Motors (GM), etc., stay solvent just long enough for the economy to recover. In the meantime, President Obama is in the unhappy position of having to respond to the spectacle of Wall Streeters taking in $18.4 billion of bonuses even as the TARP funds continue to flow.

And this is where the prospect of a virtual revolution kicks in. If you work at a technology company that is in dire straights and hits the wall, your severance and benefits are an unsecured liability, you might get zippo from your employer. At Merrill Lynch (MER), for example, insolvency was only staved off by the intervention of the U.S. Treasury. But that didn’t prevent John Thain from recommending (and paying) $4 billion in bonuses just prior to the closing of the Bank of America (BAC) acquisition. And that patent unfairness will be the genesis of this modern day revolution.

It isn’t that average citizens reject the idea that risk-takers should be rewarded. Americans have none of that “Tall Poppy” syndrome that we see here in Canada. But this situation is different. Even failed risk-takers are being rewarded: that’s something that will not go over well in coffee shops across the 50 States. The idea that “we need to pay people to retain them” is just poppycock in this situation. The company is insolvent — you don’t have anything to pay them with. And, since the rest of Wall Street also took TARP funds, they probably can’t hire these teams away from you, either. The notion of pay-for-retention is a hollow argument.

There won’t be torches and pitchforks in this revolution; it will be the tax system and compensation caps that are brought to bear instead. But elected officials will have to make a choice: Pick the side of Wall Street or Main Street.

The choice will be an easy one to make.

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#1. To: tom007 (#0)

Even failed risk-takers are being rewarded: that’s something that will not go over well in coffee shops across the 50 States.

The real "risk takers" aren't being rewarded. The real risk takers (Investors) have already lost their risk capital and are now being taxed to reward those that risked their capital foolishly.

Let's get it right. The retirement and money market investors have been robbed already, and are now being asked to reward the thieves through taxation.

One last comment here. The sub-prime mortgage debacle is not the huge problem as it's being portrayed. The derivatives fraud is the elephant in the living room.

noone222  posted on  2009-02-03   9:29:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: noone222 (#1)

. The derivatives fraud is the elephant in the living room.

According to some sources, some banks have something like 400:1 leverage if derivatives are fully accounted for.

And a few smart folks feel nearly all large US banks are insolvent.

tom007  posted on  2009-02-03   9:42:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: tom007 (#3)

And a few smart folks feel nearly all large US banks are insolvent.

There's no 'feel' about it, my man. It's a fact.

US bank deposits total $7 trillion. Assets total $275 billion. That leaves the banks $6.725 TRILLION short. FDIC can cover about $40 billion. Do the math.

Esso  posted on  2009-02-03   9:53:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Esso (#6)

Checked my bank (sock) this morning, two bucks safe and secure.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-03   9:55:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Cynicom (#7)

Being broke is the ultimate tax shelter.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-02-03   10:07:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#8)

Being broke is the ultimate tax shelter.

That is why during the Great Depression there were NO mass riots etc. Most of us had little before, so it was not far to fall. Hitch up your belt another notch and slog on.

Current generations have never know hunger, so let the riots begin.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-03   10:15:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Cynicom (#9)

You have inadvertently told me why there will NOT be riots.

They're not only NOT hungry. The majority is obese and a "sizable" (pardon the pun) minority is MORBIDLY obese.

Fat people don't riot well. They can barely even move. A lot of them just sorta waddle.

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-02-03   10:35:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Sam Houston (#10)

Sam...

Take another look at the long lines at soup kitchens and employment offices during the depression, you will see NO fat people, none.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-03   10:56:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom (#12)

I'm talking about TODAY.

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