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Title: Sarah Palin Champions Barbaric Aerial Hunting of Wolves
Source: YouTube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGPFPBmzRrQ
Published: Sep 3, 2008
Author: defendersactionfund
Post Date: 2009-02-03 17:56:11 by FormerLurker
Keywords: Barbaric, Animal slaughter, Compassionate Conservatism, Sarah Palin
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#117. To: christine (#93)

i do too.

That's what I find extremely interesting in terms of the Essenes and their way of life, as it IS in harmony with Nature, and what a truly spiritual person would seek.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-03   23:22:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: eskimo (#115)

a project to repopulate wolves in your area

A similar project was considered in my old stomping grounds.

The adults prevailed. ;-)

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-03   23:23:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Old Friend (#97)

i've never seen charlotte's web, but i could name dozens of shows and movies with animals in which i have cried. i even sobbed when i watched Free Willy. if i had my way, no living creature would suffer or die like in the Garden of Eden.

christine  posted on  2009-02-03   23:23:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: FormerLurker (#117)

what a truly spiritual person would seek.

Please give us all YOUR definition of "a truly spiritual person" if you would.

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-03   23:24:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: FormerLurker (#111)

I don't support the death penalty for the mothers, as they are confused and misguided.

What about if a confused and misguided guy goes in a liquor store and kills someone in a moment of bad judgement.

Wouldn't it be worse for someone to premeditatedly kill their own child with time to think about it.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-03   23:25:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: christine (#119)

if i had my way, no living creature would suffer or die like in the Garden of Eden.

IIRC, man became a meat eater after Adam and Eve's fall from grace. Could be wrong though.

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-03   23:26:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: christine (#119)

like in the Garden of Eden.

I like animals and stuff too. When I fish. I cut them up and I feel kind of bad for them. I cut them up nevertheless. Catfish for example get a nail through the head the filleted on the stump.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-03   23:28:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Rotara (#122)

yes, that's the way i recall it.

christine  posted on  2009-02-03   23:28:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: eskimo (#115)

They roamed most of north America only a few hundred years ago.

So did the many other animals, who are now practically extinct.

Perhaps one day you'll be reincarnated as one of those creatures, and you can see how life is when your kind are hunted down by helicopter (or other more effective means of aerial flight in the future)...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-03   23:29:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: Old Friend (#121)

What about if a confused and misguided guy goes in a liquor store and kills someone in a moment of bad judgement.

Life penalty. As far as the death penalty for moms, is that what you support?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-03   23:29:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Rotara (#122)

IIRC, man became a meat eater after Adam and Eve's fall from grace. Could be wrong though.

No, you have it right. Thing is, that Garden of Eden wasn't necessarily within this realm, nor on this physical world.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-03   23:31:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Rotara (#122)

man became a meat eater after Adam and Eve's fall from grace. Could be wrong though.

Think about this. They were naked before the fall. If they hadn't fallen it would always be nice out and the women would always be naked. Damn you Adam.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-03   23:31:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: christine (#91)

was it a better world then or were we blissfully ignorant? i know the music was better. :)

I remember it as both - forgive the paradox. WOW, the music was SO great!

"I just dropped in, to see what condition my condition was in - yeah, yeah; ooh yeah..."

War was dangerous and sex was fun; talk about nostalgia!

From "The Big Chill," to "The Great Chill." Man, like where did the freakin' time go? We need to locate Grampa Gump; he always had the correct answers.

Uh, hey! Quit looking at me like that; I don't have no stinkin' answers!

SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2009-02-03   23:33:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Rotara (#120)

Please give us all YOUR definition of "a truly spiritual person" if you would.

One who has forsaken material desires and devoted him or herself to seeking communication with God through various techniques including prayer and meditation, as well as the rejection of any animal flesh for food.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-03   23:34:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: eskimo, FormerLurker (#115)

Perhaps you could cure your seemingly irrational hysteria concerning this matter by spearheading a project to repopulate wolves in your area. They roamed most of north America only a few hundred years ago.

Wolf populations increased because they had a larger food supply. White man's intruduction of small pox wiped out 90% of the native populations. There is speculation that this is why there were so many buffalo on the pains, their prime preditor had died off.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2009-02-03   23:34:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: FormerLurker, Rotara (#130)

as well as the rejection of any animal flesh for food.

Why would you include that when the Creator made us omnivors?


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2009-02-03   23:35:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: FormerLurker (#130)

animal flesh for food.

Jesus wouldn't meet your standard. He ate not only ate fish but fed it to multitudes.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-03   23:36:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: FormerLurker (#127)

No, you have it right. Thing is, that Garden of Eden wasn't necessarily within this realm, nor on this physical world.

O K there FL. LOL

Pardon me if I consider your 'spiritual musings' with a grain of salt.

I've read a lot of what you've put forward about 'spirituality' and as much work as I need I can still tell that on such matters you are as lost as a goose in a blizzard.

No offense. ;-)

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-03   23:39:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: farmfriend (#132)

Why would you include that when the Creator made us omnivors?

God didn't. In fact, we don't have the teeth to be natural meat eaters, we only acquired the taste for flesh over time. We were originally herbivores.

Are Humans Omnivores?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-03   23:40:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: Old Friend (#128)

Think about this. They were naked before the fall. If they hadn't fallen it would always be nice out and the women would always be naked. Damn you Adam.

And if they hadn't succombed to tempation they wouldn't have known lust.

Yes, God's manifest glory in the Garden and on Adam and Even must have been ... glorious.

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-03   23:41:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Rotara (#134)

I've read a lot of what you've put forward about 'spirituality' and as much work as I need I can still tell that on such matters you are as lost as a goose in a blizzard.

Yet you believe some dude in the sky snapped his fingers and created the world in a day, and all that exists in seven of those days, correct?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-03   23:41:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: FormerLurker (#62)

I hunt and kill coyotes: canis lupis vs. canis latrans, one's bigger and one's smaller. There's a reason the wolves were exterminated from the lower 48 states: they're KILLERS of livestock and people.

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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-02-03   23:41:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: christine (#119)

.... in the Garden of Eden.

C'mon, Christine, act your age!

"Innagoddadavida baby, you know that I love you..." Remember? (There I go again, sigh!)

Nostalgia isn't what it used to be, ya know? I used to remember 'when,' but now ... what were we just talking about?


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2009-02-03   23:42:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: FormerLurker (#125)

So did the many other animals, who are now practically extinct.

Well do something about it. Get some wolves for your area; take care of them.

There are plenty of wolves where I am. Most nights you just walk outside and you can hear some howling up on the mountain.

eskimo  posted on  2009-02-03   23:42:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: Rotara (#136)

Yes, God's manifest glory in the Garden and on Adam and Even must have been ... glorious.

If there truly was a single man named Adam (which there wasn't according to the actual Hebrew texts), and there was just one female named Eve, did Cain bang his mom, sisters, and/or daughters to make a bunch of babies? Where'd WE come from then if he didn't?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-03   23:44:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: FormerLurker (#137)

Yet you believe some dude in the sky snapped his fingers and created the world in a day, and all that exists in seven of those days, correct?

I can tell you this as fact: I've met Jesus and know truth.

It's keeping it that I have to give myself to daily.

You are a blind man barking in the dark just to hear your own voice.

Again, no offense.

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-03   23:44:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: FormerLurker (#67)

I support killing wolves from the air if wildlife biologists say to thin them out. I'd volunteer to pull the trigger on 1,000 wolves if given the opportunity.

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-02-03   23:44:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: Rotara (#142)

I've met Jesus and know truth.

Uh huh. I've met God Himself and he said you are deluded, and to tell you so.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-03   23:44:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: X-15 (#143)

I'd volunteer to pull the trigger on 1,000 wolves if given the opportunity.

Then you are a sick fuck.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-03   23:45:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: FormerLurker (#135)

God didn't. In fact, we don't have the teeth to be natural meat eaters, we only acquired the taste for flesh over time. We were originally herbivores.

Your article is a bunch of bullshit.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2009-02-03   23:46:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: FormerLurker (#141)

If there truly was a single man named Adam (which there wasn't according to the actual Hebrew texts), and there was just one female named Eve, did Cain bang his mom, sisters, and/or daughters to make a bunch of babies? Where'd WE come from then if he didn't?

When you become born again by the Holy Spirit AND I can know in my heart I'm recommitted to serving the truth with all my heart, soul and strength - then let's have a serious discussion. ;-)

It's pointless until then. You just make it up as you go.

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-03   23:46:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: FormerLurker (#125)

and it would be a different matter if it were a clean kill every time rather than shooting the poor things in the back causing them to suffer for however long. i realize i'm being idealistic, but it does seem to me that's a particularly horrific method.

christine  posted on  2009-02-03   23:47:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: FormerLurker (#144)

Uh huh. I've met God Himself and he said you are deluded, and to tell you so.

Like I said..

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-03   23:47:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: FormerLurker (#145)

That's MR. Sick Fuck to you.

Go on, click THIS, I double-dog dare you:

www.youtube.com/watch? v=ZtmyKJRDx6A

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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-02-03   23:49:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: X-15 (#138)

There's a reason the wolves were exterminated from the lower 48 states: they're KILLERS of livestock and people.

One time years ago I had a dog appear in the middle of the desert who led me to an Indian reservation as night was falling when I was on foot and hopelessly lost with no natural bearings to guide me. I do not doubt animals are highly intelligent, and are more compassionate and caring than most humans.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-03   23:50:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: christine (#148)

and it would be a different matter if it were a clean kill every time rather than shooting the poor things in the back causing them to suffer for however long. i realize i'm being idealistic, but it does seem to me that's a particularly horrific method.

We are certainly on the same page here christine.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-03   23:51:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: Rotara (#147)

You just make it up as you go.

C'mon Rotara, don't cop out, tell us where we came from if there were only one man and one woman. I want to know what YOU think on this...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-03   23:52:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: SKYDRIFTER (#139)

"Innagoddadavida baby, you know that I love you..." Remember?

i don't remember that one?

christine  posted on  2009-02-03   23:52:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: X-15 (#150)

That took me back to the days of my youth !

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-03   23:52:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: FormerLurker (#153)

I'm not copping out; I'm sparing myself the waste of time that occurs while engaging you.

Be it "Man Made Global Warming", ecology, "Spirituality", etc.

You are a God mocker, which is your problem. Not mine.

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-03   23:54:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: christine (#119) (Edited)

"If i had my way, no living creature would suffer or die like in the Garden of Eden."

You do realize that if we didn't kill off a bunch of Bambi-moms every year, all deer would suffer as they over-populated, right?

It's a dog-eat-dog world out there...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2009-02-03   23:54:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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